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Economy => Service Discussion => Topic started by: baristor on December 22, 2014, 11:38:58 PM



Title: cloudminr.io tracker
Post by: baristor on December 22, 2014, 11:38:58 PM
Lets see how long all these cloud mining websites last.

Everyone who invested here pls mention below.


Title: Re: cloudminr.io is the new pbmine! correct me if im wrong proof below
Post by: baristor on December 22, 2014, 11:49:17 PM
MORE SCHOKING PROOF they claim they are norwegien yet iplocation ofsite revealed UNITED STATES for both websites
SCAMMER BACK NEW PROFILE

Pbmining.com - 162.159.242.214 - United states


Cloudminr.io - 162.253.149.197 - United states

Time to sue.


Title: Re: cloudminr.io is the new pbmine! correct me if im wrong proof below
Post by: thirdprize on December 23, 2014, 05:28:57 PM
What is the proof again?  List the points that make you think they are related.


Title: Re: cloudminr.io is the new pbmine! correct me if im wrong proof below
Post by: investor respect on December 23, 2014, 05:47:54 PM
sorry been away for a few. does this guy have assets in the US? is he in the US?
can we sue the companies that protected his identity while he was scamming


Title: Re: cloudminr.io is the new pbmine! correct me if im wrong proof below
Post by: thompete on December 23, 2014, 06:14:25 PM
What is the proof again?  List the points that make you think they are related.
I think he is trying to say that both companies are the same, as the IP's are similar.


Title: Re: cloudminr.io is the new pbmine! correct me if im wrong proof below
Post by: baristor on December 23, 2014, 06:25:52 PM
not only are ips similar bt both websites rgd in a similar way see here http://www.whois.com/whois/cloudminr.io  click on related domains its registerd via ENOM try the same with pbmining related domains ENOM  reg!


Title: Re: cloudminr.io is the new pbmine! correct me if im wrong proof below
Post by: raskul on December 23, 2014, 06:28:50 PM
not only are ips similar bt both websites rgd in a similar way see here http://www.whois.com/whois/cloudminr.io  click on related domains its registerd via ENOM try the same with pbmining related domains ENOM  reg!

there is every possibility that cloudminr.io is just a copycat of pbmining.
someone examined how Boyko set up pbmining and simply copied it, it doesn't mean it's the same person, just that they both used the same domain privacy service.


Title: Re: cloudminr.io is the new pbmine! correct me if im wrong proof below
Post by: jaybow on December 23, 2014, 07:00:58 PM
not only are ips similar bt both websites rgd in a similar way see here http://www.whois.com/whois/cloudminr.io  click on related domains its registerd via ENOM try the same with pbmining related domains ENOM  reg!

yes well, ENOM is one of the largest domain registrars in the world. Would surprise me if there aren't any more scam domains listed with them...

Sorry, but IP-address similarity and same registrar doesn't make much sense.
By the way, the entire range from 162.158.0.0 to 162.159.255.255 belong to CloudFlare, a very reputable company, albeit that they are frequently used by the bitcoin community (scammers and honest sites alike).


Title: Re: cloudminr.io is the new pbmine! correct me if im wrong proof below
Post by: MichaelNZ on December 23, 2014, 08:33:02 PM
Sorry baristor I've read your alleged proof and it doesn't prove anything.
Enom are one of the largest domain registrars in the world ... I even have domains registered with them ... does that make me a scammer and ponzi too ?
Maybe you'd like to go one step further ... Boyko is Canadian, therefore all Canadians are scammers ... Boyko is a name that originates in the Ukraine ... does that make all Ukrainians scammers too ? ... Boyko is one of a family of names that includes Bojka, Boychuk & Boichuk ... does that make all of them scammers too ? Boyko is a skydiver, I've completed 254 jumps myself ... does that make me a scammer too ?

Go away and do your research correctly and find real proof instead of making baseless allegations on nothing but the flimsiest of gossip, coincidence and innuendo.

Oh and BTW, I'm not defending Boyko here ... He's the scum of the earth as far as I'm concerned and I wish for him to get his just desserts ... and he will !
It's just that I have no time for stupidity, and you really are proving yourself to be that special kind of stupid aren't you ?


Title: Re: cloudminr.io is the new pbmine! correct me if im wrong proof below
Post by: thompete on December 23, 2014, 10:36:19 PM
not only are ips similar bt both websites rgd in a similar way see here http://www.whois.com/whois/cloudminr.io  click on related domains its registerd via ENOM try the same with pbmining related domains ENOM  reg!

there is every possibility that cloudminr.io is just a copycat of pbmining.
someone examined how Boyko set up pbmining and simply copied it, it doesn't mean it's the same person, just that they both used the same domain privacy service.

I went through some payouts of cloudminr last month. And they were indeed linked with outputs from some other mining sites. 
Will try and find that txid's.


Title: Re: cloudminr.io is the new pbmine! correct me if im wrong proof below
Post by: baristor on December 24, 2014, 08:21:31 AM
well I checked cex.io and other who are running mining from longtern they are no way linked to those ips n enom !

Seems the same guy using diff names to reg his bizz... altho I cld b wrong but why does norwegnian based company have IP in US ?


Title: Re: cloudminr.io is the new pbmine! correct me if im wrong proof below
Post by: MichaelNZ on December 24, 2014, 09:05:06 AM
well I checked cex.io and other who are running mining from longtern they are no way linked to those ips n enom !

Seems the same guy using diff names to reg his bizz... altho I cld b wrong but why does norwegnian based company have IP in US ?

Really ?? You can't work that one out ??
$$$ mate $$$ ... You can register a domain and get a .com URL for virtually nothing along with heaps of traffic and page storage for free.



Title: Re: cloudminr.io is the new pbmine! correct me if im wrong proof below
Post by: thirdprize on December 24, 2014, 09:15:59 AM
well I checked cex.io and other who are running mining from longtern they are no way linked to those ips n enom !

Seems the same guy using diff names to reg his bizz... altho I cld b wrong but why does norwegnian based company have IP in US ?

I used to have my hosting with GoDaddy.  I am in the UK but my website would have been in the US.  There are many reasons why you would choose a hosting company outside your own country.  If most of your clients were American then they would get a better response from the site if it was in the US with them.  What is your web site coded in?  No every hosting company supports every website technology.  


Title: Re: cloudminr.io is the new pbmine! correct me if im wrong proof below
Post by: MichaelNZ on December 24, 2014, 09:41:00 AM
well I checked cex.io and other who are running mining from longtern they are no way linked to those ips n enom !

Seems the same guy using diff names to reg his bizz... altho I cld b wrong but why does norwegnian based company have IP in US ?

I used to have my hosting with GoDaddy.  I am in the UK but my website would have been in the US.  There are many reasons why you would choose a hosting company outside your own country.  If most of your clients were American then they would get a better response from the site if it was in the US with them.  What is your web site coded in?  No every hosting company supports every website technology.  

Yup, what he said !!!


Title: Re: cloudminr.io is the new pbmine! correct me if im wrong proof below
Post by: Perryl on December 24, 2014, 10:50:41 AM
well I checked cex.io and other who are running mining from longtern they are no way linked to those ips n enom !

Seems the same guy using diff names to reg his bizz... altho I cld b wrong but why does norwegnian based company have IP in US ?

I used to have my hosting with GoDaddy.  I am in the UK but my website would have been in the US.  There are many reasons why you would choose a hosting company outside your own country.  If most of your clients were American then they would get a better response from the site if it was in the US with them.  What is your web site coded in?  No every hosting company supports every website technology.  

I live in Canada. I own servers in Canada, USA, and Europe. Like you said, many reasons you might choose one outside of your own country, for example you get a good deal, but it's only available in a certain datacenter. Depends how important ping is, and where your customers are, etc etc.

While I agree cloudminr.io is probably a ponzi, I don't see any conclusive evidence that it is run by the same people as PB. I'm just not going to cloudmine anymore, seems more sensible. It seems all cloudminers are scams or rip-offs. I might as well rent a rig from mrr, at least then I can decide where to point it.


Title: Re: cloudminr.io is the new pbmine! correct me if im wrong proof below
Post by: thirdprize on December 24, 2014, 11:05:32 AM
Nothing to see here.  Move along now.  ;)


Title: Re: cloudminr.io is the new pbmine! correct me if im wrong proof below
Post by: dwyer17 on January 14, 2015, 05:29:04 AM
I have 2 TH/s on cloudminr.io. So far, paying out. I wish they had more evidence of their mines. They have one dark photo that could just be a stock photo. Their prices are too good to be true. Constantly having sales. Currently offering 30% off due to a recent 30,000 user mark.

They claim that once you buy a contract, there are no fees. How are there no fees? No fees, cheap hashing power, options to "reinvest" what you have mined. Earn up to 9% on referral program. Well, so far it seems to be paying out, but stay sharp.


Title: Re: cloudminr.io is the new pbmine! correct me if im wrong proof below
Post by: Dilemma on January 14, 2015, 08:30:41 AM
they are paying perfectly
they have cheap prize
they have zero fee :)
if it can continue as now, they are best for me :)


Title: Re: cloudminr.io is the new pbmine! correct me if im wrong proof below
Post by: Mabsark on January 14, 2015, 11:34:27 AM
they are paying perfectly
they have cheap prize
they have zero fee :)
if it can continue as now, they are best for me :)

So did pbmining. So did hashie. So did crypomine. Etc.
You're an idiot.  :)


Title: Re: cloudminr.io is the new pbmine! correct me if im wrong proof below
Post by: Endersgamer on January 14, 2015, 11:37:30 AM
they are paying perfectly
they have cheap prize
they have zero fee :)
if it can continue as now, they are best for me :)

So did pbmining. So did hashie. So did crypomine. Etc.
You're an idiot.  :)

this Dilemma super idiot

dont know what he/she talking about, just type and type chasing post for sig camp


Title: Re: cloudminr.io is the new pbmine! correct me if im wrong proof below
Post by: baristor on January 14, 2015, 11:52:18 AM
I dont think any legit cloud minr site exists that can help u make profit like this cept the high mantainance fee ones.. anyways I hope this will stick more than a year!


Title: Re: cloudminr.io is the new pbmine! correct me if im wrong proof below
Post by: Mabsark on January 14, 2015, 12:26:21 PM
I dont think any legit cloud minr site exists that can help u make profit like this cept the high mantainance fee ones.. anyways I hope this will stick more than a year!

Well, there's only AMHash and Bit-x left at this point. What do you think is a high maintenance fee? Would you say AMHash's fee of $0.001551 per Gh per day is high? If so, then you'd be wrong. That actually less than 0.07 $/kWh which is insanely cheap if you ask me (I pay 0.24 $/kWh for my leccy though).


Title: Re: cloudminr.io tracker
Post by: baristor on January 14, 2015, 03:10:32 PM
so how much do i earn in a day with say 1000 ghs ?


Title: Re: cloudminr.io tracker
Post by: Mabsark on January 14, 2015, 03:31:34 PM
so how much do i earn in a day with say 1000 ghs ?

That depends on the difficulty and price of bitcoin at the time when payments are issued. Legitimate services will have the necessary information on their website or service thread to make such a calculation. Today's payment for AMHash was 351 Satoshis per Gh, so for 1 Th/s you'd get 0.00351 BTC from AMHash and Bit-x calculator says 0.00205906 BTC. Bit-x have already went negative and reduced the maintenance fee by 33% though. Tomorrow, who knows?


Title: Re: cloudminr.io tracker
Post by: Faceboss on January 14, 2015, 03:40:11 PM
Bit-x have already went negative and reduced the maintenance fee by 33% though. Tomorrow, who knows?

Wow don't see a problem there!


Title: Re: cloudminr.io tracker
Post by: bronan on February 12, 2015, 09:23:04 PM
I can not see proof yet for a scam, but yes most companies suffer from the low btc price.
Their business model is not completely open and i respect that, some agruments look suspicious but this far i am absolutely not complaining.

Several so called legit ones left us with worthless shares being ended premature or shut down cloud products example :  cex, zeushash, genesis, am, zenminer all of them took the cloud mining partially off or pay alot less than we wanted some charged fees which actually ended me paying them for mining.

Hell even mining at cheap locations is going to hurt if you do not have sub 0.06 dollar energy prices.

Not all of it is a scam even though it hurts us who bought into them, ofcourse i get angry too but after a while i do not think all are being bad boys

I see the massive attacks on the guy from pbmining, yes i also lost some btc from them but I DO NOT AGREE PEOPLE attack the person behind it

Why do i say that because i still get paid some fairy dust from the pbmining. How he did it is not important the pbmining failed because btc value is too low to pay the bills of the miners.

Did he had a scam going i am not sure, so stop the witch hunt or keep it straight and correct.

So claim something about the site and they provided info you do not trust, that on itself is not enough proof for me that they are going to scam me.

If cloudminr.io is a bad business model i will find out but this far i am very satisfied and see my weekly pay coming in pretty on time.

Will it make ROI i have to wait till my 5 Th pays off, the only risk is that if the german brothers make true what they posted btc will get another huge hit if 300 to 600  PH enters the btc arena
And do you know what scares me more is that i kinda already know these guys are able todo it if they go online with the machines they are testing.

How do you think thats gonna effect the btc market ... seen what happened with ltc with those massive 1 to 2 Gh scrypt boards indeed down the drain....


Title: Re: cloudminr.io tracker
Post by: pajaperc on February 15, 2015, 04:47:48 AM
I do agree that cloudminr.io may indeed be a Ponzi scam but I had investments with other legitimate companies that failed.

The experiences kept reminding me that there is risk in any investment.

For cloudminr.io, I bought on 50 GH/s and just let it re-invest on its own and is now already at 93 GH/s (4 days auto re-invest and 3 days mining for the weekly payout) and it's been running for over a month now without them missing a payout.

I'll just keep on doing this every week until cloudminr.io gives proof of legitimacy for me to invest more.



Title: Re: cloudminr.io tracker
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 15, 2015, 06:31:00 AM
I think they have some connection with Eobot. Some BTC was sent to Eobot.

   -MZ