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Chiliphone.com (http://Chiliphone.com) and it's program are being put up for sale by the owner. It is a great program that works but just did not have the advertising or reach that other bitcoin related sites have. Please message me if you would like to talk to the developer about buying this, it would go well attached to a current btc related site or just as is with more advertising.


About Chiliphone
Chiliphone is the first in Browser calling system that uses Bitcoin as it's payment system. You can call from your computer to anywhere in the world with this product.

What's so good about this?
With Chiliphone you can call anyone in the world, with bitcoin. You do not have to pay any monthly fee and the calls are untraceable. No IP or anything is logged during your call, this is great for private calls that you do not want logged by the Government or anything. It's like one of those reusable phones you can get in the gas station but you only have to pay for the call and it can be reused without being tracked. Not to mention it can be worked straight from your Browser!

How does it work?
In order to use this service, you need some Bitcoin.

After this it is really simple! Just enter the phone number you want to call, and a QR code will appear. Next to this QR code you can see the cost per minute to call this particular phone number, as well as your balance. Send some bitcoin to the QR code and the balance will top up. This will typically take 10 seconds or less. After this, just click the call button.

You will need a headset, or a microphone and speaker connected to you computer. Also, you will need to tell your browser that Chiliphone is allowed to use your microphone. The browser will ask you a question about this when you click the call button, and it looks slightly different depending on the browser. In Chrome, there will be a bar in the top of you browser saying "chiliphone.com wants to use your microphone". Just click "Allow". In Firefox, there will be a popup on the left side in your browser that lets you select which device to use. Click "Share Selected Device".

How much does each call cost?
The cost for each phone call depends on where you are calling. Note that it only depends on where you are calling to, it doesn't matter where you are calling from.

The specific cost depends on the country and the phone company in charge of the number you are calling and various price structures that phone companies likes to set. Because of this we have chosen not to include a table to show different rates, instead just type a number and the rate for that particular number will be shown.

The Developer
This product was developed by: Limikael (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=274)
I am just representing his product, if you have any questions you can direct them to me.
 If I cannot answer them then I'll redirect them to him. Please note that some of the answers to you questions can be found here: About Page (http://chiliphone.com/main/content/about).

Giving out 1 mBTC to 5 Sr. Members+ who will test this and vouch for it.

I tried the echo test (http://chiliphone.com/echotest)and it works.

Bitcoin address:   177777iciAzEV7MQoiHgobrgm6dXgFdhMW

Sent https://blockchain.info/address/177777iciAzEV7MQoiHgobrgm6dXgFdhMW (https://blockchain.info/address/177777iciAzEV7MQoiHgobrgm6dXgFdhMW).
Thank you.

I would be fine with testing it for free incase you guys want someone to test and vouch .
Sounds interesting as well.

Just post your btc address.

Its fine .I will test it tomorrow :)
I just realized, my multibit isn't synced, and won't be in an hour or more. Also, I was just trying the site out .For US phones, it shows a zero cost for call, but says you don't have sufficient balance.

For a US Call it shows 1.2 cents a min, but for somewhere like Afghanistan it's 40.1 cents a min... The rates vary largely due to how much the site has to pay for the call.

And it's fine, just come back tomorrow and I'll give you some money to test with.

Still 3 more testing slots come on people, lets get Chiliphone out there for all Bitcoin users!

bitcoin:1JJVGfSLeR9m7N2zBdFK9x72xaJSccqQUY

Sent, https://blockchain.info/address/1JJVGfSLeR9m7N2zBdFK9x72xaJSccqQUY (https://blockchain.info/address/1JJVGfSLeR9m7N2zBdFK9x72xaJSccqQUY) please post a review...

willl write an article about this service on CryptoArticles.com later today and play around with it a bit.

Reporting back in a few hours!

Thanks michaeladair!

If you have any questions jdebunt, or anyone else, I'm happy to answer them!

Post here or inbox me, or give me a call using chiliphone here:

http://chiliphone.com/+46732553464

It is free of charge... :)

// Micke

I tested it with echotest. works nice. very nice idea and Chapeau to the coder. but the female voice is :(

A call to a mobile number in my own country, NL in this case, costs 214 satoshi a minute.

That's quite a bargain!

Love to see this integrated on my phone like whatsapp functionality, or skype I guess but I've never used it.

Is this affiliated to Chilliphone.com?

No affiliation with chilliphone.com (http://chilliphone.com) this is its own entity.

And yes, a phone app is a good idea but I think it'd be great to see more support for the online browser version before we move it to mobile.

what does the other party I am calling see like with Skype the called party is seeing 0000123456? or unknown?

I agree. How about security? it's only as secure as the measures taken by users to hide themselves, correct? I can't imagine anybody monitoring this. IP isn't logged, not by the site but yes by the provider. Or do I misunderstand?

It depends really on the country you are calling to... I called my phone from my computer in the US and got 22928.

Actually, the provider only logs the ip of the website. Nothing is taken from the user's information.

And the article has been published :

http://www.cryptoarticles.com/crypto-news/chiliphone-make-cheap-international-calls-from-your-browser-in-exchange-for-bitcoin

I think it covers pretty much anything, but if you would like to see something changed, let me know :)

That's a beautifully made article, thanks.

New poll added here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=912256.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=912256.0) regarding TOR. Would you use Chiliphone more, vote there to show your support!

Also, anyone know what it takes to get a website on Tor? Any help would be great.

Any ideas on how we can market this great product to get every bitcoin user using it would be great. Not only is it good for international calls but it is also good for affordable local cslls!

Can you explain how this service is "untraceable"?

Do you keep logs of any identifying information, such as user data or IP addresses? Are there features built in that are intended to enhance anonymity or privacy?

If you want to test if this service is really is "untraceable" your best bet would be call authorities with a fake bomb plant alert. If you get away with it - then it is really a magnificent tool. If not... well.. you tried.
While my words may sounds little grim... there is no better test. But I do not encourage anyone to do so.

When a call is placed its basically like getting a call from our website. End of story, no IPS are logged or anything...

I mean, its a free world do what you gotta do.

I am still curious about this. Does anyone know if its completely anonymous ?
I saw an altcoin for the purpose too, but was curious, if using this would be an option to make anonymous calls ?

You're basically just using a pre-paid phone that routes through the server IP to make calls. No personal ips are logged or anything.

Just  tested  it, yeah its pretty awesome. :)

Feel free to tell your friends about it; service made by limikael (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=274).

Seems like the project wasn't updated for a while...

Does it not work anymore, it should.

I still use it till this very day at times, when I am too lazy to get my phone, and it still works pretty well. Obviously I don't use it to make any bomb threats and all. The only thing I would like to see is not being charged for the time the phone rings. Thats how other services like google voice usually works.

Ah okay, I will notify the developer and see what he can do about that. ;)

I get a popup saying unknown error all the time. :/

Are you calling an existing number, where are you located, and have you lost money while doing it?

What is the number you are calling?

I get same popup all the time too.
I'm from Turkey.

Haven't lost money since I can't use the service at all. Whenever I try to type in something I get this pop up.

Okay, I contacted the Dev I'll let you all know when the problem is fixed.

Is the service down now ? I deposit a small amount, but it isn't showing in my balance. Can't even redeem it as its not showing.
This is the first time I had this problem. Down for anyone else as well ?

The website is probably having problems in general. Saw my latest posts here? I'm assuming that we're waiting for a response from the dev.

Its just a small amount, and if he does refund it, a lot of people don't usually send from their own address for anonymity, so sending it back to the sending address might not be the right way to refund. Sad to hear about the service closing, I used to prefer this much over services like google voice.

Yeah, it is sad to see it go, but it just didn't have enough activity to be supported...

It's sad to see projects like this go. I had heard of Chiliphone from this forum but had never seen any attempts of the developer to promote it.

It's a great project, maybe if he gave it a push it would be more succesfull.

Thats sad to hear. Also, Always best to clear the deposits and refund people who deposited after they disabled services without any announcements on the site. I had a 1 chip deposit too ;) . Not that I care for 1 chip, but if a lot of people deposited during those days, it might sum up to a big volume.

As for advertising, I really didn't see any, except for this and one another forum post. I still think its like Skype/Google voice and is perfect as an anonymous option for making calls. Maybe the owner can try again with proper advertising.

The Owner/Developer said that he refunded the deposits back to the sending addresses, he told me to direct people from me to him in the case there was a problem. Also, he simply does not have the time to advertise and try again. As I said myself, it would be best if chiliphone were added to an already active site with a high BTC user traffic in order for it to gain more use. That is why it is best for him to sell it, so others can get better use of it.

Not the best thing to do , considering people would send through other sites rather than their own wallets as the anonymity is a big factor. However, I checked the addresses in the sending side, and none of them got the amount back.

He said he will give it a check tomorrow because he needs to go to sleep, but he believes nobody had any outstanding balances on the site. And the other sites could just handle it anonymously by simply making it a completely different page that doesn't involve logging into the main portion of the site.

Still for sale.

I'm building a competing product at http://Bitphone.net 

It's not quite ready to launch yet, but we are getting there.  I'm also sad to see chiliphone go.  I am a competitor, yes, but its better to have many products that can grow the user base of bitcoin phone customers than for one site to try to reach all the traffic.  You learn this stuff as you get older :)

I saw in another forum post the developer wasn't making much money and couldn't advertise, etc. to generate enough revenue to make it profitable.  This may be true, I'm sure this is a tough market.  You are in the end competing with Skype, Google Voice, Traditional telcos and pretty much every VoIP service that's out there.  Telco is cut rate, cheapest rates win!  Phone call minutes are priced like commodities..

I'm going into this (Investing my own money to build BitPhone) knowing full-well that it will be tough to compete with the aforementioned companies.  At the end of the day its about placing calls and paying for them. Then what kind of phone are you using and how did you dial the call (some contact list, clickable link, dial it manually ?)

Chiliphone was the first Bitcoin phone to utilize WebRTC technology to make the browser itself the phone.  I applaud the developer of chiliphone for building what he did!

WebRTC is a fairly new technology, and still a work in progress. http://www.w3.org/TR/webrtc/

I plan to offer a similar "payphone" functionality in BitPhone, but I've taken WebRTC to the next level and built a Secure WebRTC Portal which you can create.  A portal is really just a unique Url that you can share with others, when they goto the same link the portal becomes a pure, encrypted, peer-peer connection between the users in the portal.  You can share video, audio, files, screenshare and chat all through this private portal.  This is similar to other services that offer "web-conferencing" but all based on Bitcoin and using WebRTC (your browser) to do everything.  You won't need to install any software (maybe a browser extension) to make all this work! 

I plan to offer an custom domain like whatever.bitphone.net for a small monthly fee. 
We will hopefully be launching a limited beta next month!

Gavin

Sounds nice , looking forward to it. Also like Chiliphone, calls made through Bitphone will be untraceable correct ?
Also , let us know if there is an ANN thread for it.

haha chilliphone wont be able to sell thanks to this competitor that just showed up.  maybe he should let someone run it and he is a silent partner.  That is the best way he might get money for his site.

True, however I am not really sure if that would be a big problem for Chiliphone. Since its already established, a buyer for that can easily make it coexist with any new service thats comes up in the bitcoin ecosystem .
The original Ann thread doesn't have a lot of posts either, so maybe there isn't a big market for it then. However I would expect a big market for anonymous calling, so not sure why it is so.

Yes, "calls made through Bitphone will be untraceable", but it gets sticky with carriers / phone numbers involved.
Phone Number based calls are routed through various carriers which I have no control of.  You can't say untraceable IMHO..  anonymous, yes, untraceable, doubtful.

The Portal is 100% encrypted and secure since its peer-peer, no carriers involved..

That was rather confusing, you said untraceable, but then changed to saying doubtful.  The way Chiliphone worked was that it never logged the IP addresses- atleast claimed to , which alone is sufficient to make it untraceable back to us. You shouldn't have a problem sticking to that, i suppose

There's also XCoinCall and now BitcoinDial as well.

Nice to have 2 new services popping up recently. Seems Bitcoin Dial rather just launched today.
They also seem to be much expensive. XcoinCall is still fine with the rates.

There's also http://icall.com/ and piiko so make that 4 services. mayve even more that we're just not aware about. But I'll seriously miss chiliphone, the simplicity and attractive rates made it unique among others.

Bitcoindial totally screws you on the calling rates..  I paid for a 15 minute call, lasted 30 seconds, NO REFUNDS!

That is really dumb, Bitphone will give you a wallet, only charge for what you use and you can return your unused balance at any time.

From thier terms "Unused minutes are not transferable to another number. However, you can use the minutes to make further calls to the same number within a limited timeframe."

Talk about a "customer friendly site"... obviously joking.

Bitphone has been released!  Check it out:

https://bitphone.net

Wrong thread to advertise your service. Spamming various threads with link will not help you to get customers.