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Title: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: unusualfacts30 on January 03, 2015, 08:52:34 PM
I'm not sure I quite understand this. It has happened every single time I bought a coin. Whether it's BTC, VTC, XPY, BC, DRK or even LTC. It doesn't matter what I buy it shits itself as soon as my buy order goes through. As soon as I get tired and sell it starts going up.  ???



Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: david1365 on January 03, 2015, 08:56:53 PM
Same here, happen to me in last year, all of my investments, has been fucked up.
CRYPT,CLOAK,NAVAJO,ARCOIN,KEYCOIN,SUPERCOIN,QTL,XST and many others...
I was so unlucky in crypto land.


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: unusualfacts30 on January 03, 2015, 09:06:21 PM
Because you are doing it wrong ?

You should never buy when there is almost no volume or a bad vibe around a coin.

I never buy low volume coins. I buy coins that have good vibes but as soon as I purchase bad vibes start creeping in. BitBay for example..I thought it was going to do great and everybody was supporting it then out of nowhere they got in some fight and screwed the whole project.

BTC..bought it at 340 thought I was being smart..it fell at 305

CANN. Coin with real use and as soon as I purchased it couldn't stop falling

RDD..bought at 16 satoshi..it fell to 8. Sold it and it reached to 12 satoshi.

XPY..another example. It was pumping normally and as soon as I bought it just so I could get quick 10% profit ..it reached NEW low..it's at all time low right now and that happened after I got in..why couldn't pump go on for few more days.





Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: MataKhobRazi on January 03, 2015, 09:11:28 PM
I'm not sure I quite understand this. It has happened every single time I bought a coin. Whether it's BTC, VTC, XPY, BC, DRK or even LTC. It doesn't matter what I buy it shits itself as soon as my buy order goes through. As soon as I get tired and sell it starts going up.  ???



Next time you sell, tell it to me, I will buy.


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: unusualfacts30 on January 03, 2015, 09:14:05 PM
I'm not sure I quite understand this. It has happened every single time I bought a coin. Whether it's BTC, VTC, XPY, BC, DRK or even LTC. It doesn't matter what I buy it shits itself as soon as my buy order goes through. As soon as I get tired and sell it starts going up.  ???



Next time you sell, tell it to me, I will buy.

I bought xpy at .028 and it didn't move one sat up as soon as my buy order went through.

I sold xpy at .0096 because it kept falling for hours and look at price now it just hit .014

I'm having shit luck with crypto/bitcoin for last 8 months.


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: Yurizhai on January 03, 2015, 09:20:06 PM
This is a common issue, the fix is relativity straightforward though it will require some items.

ITEMS:

1 small mammal, squirrels and other rodents work, though honestly I got the best results from goats

1 one knife of at least 15 years old, and it has to have personally taken at least 13 souls

about 100 ml of mercury, this will be explained later

1 paper wallet of the crypto you wish you to fix your problem with, at least $100 usd value

PROCESS:

Slather your mammal in mercury, the mercury acts a lubricant for easier passage to the spirit plane.

Stick the paper wallet to the mammal.

Stab the mammal through the paper wallet using the sacrificial knife

While the animal is dying chant a prayer to the crypto god you wish to appease, whether it be ltc or whatever. The actual phrase is important but I find it works best if you make one personal to you.

Bury the animal in a secluded area. A proper deep burial using a shovel works best, but you can just throw it in a bush or place it on the ground and cover it with leaves.

Good luck!


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: CryptoDigitals on January 03, 2015, 09:22:58 PM
Be fearful when others are greedy and greedy when others are fearful. For instance now would be a good time to watch BTC and be ready to buy. People are afraid. The reality is there are people out there sitting on 10s of 1000s of coins, 100s of 1000s even.

If any of them speculate there will be better buy opportunities down the road - they could liquidate even a small portion of their holdings - say 20,000 BTC, and the price would crash again.

I know a lot of people right now are saying we're at the bottom. I personally would not be surprised if we see sub $200 BTC in the near future.

Good luck,

CD


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: SockPuppetAccount on January 03, 2015, 09:24:46 PM
Don't buy coins during a pump.  Admit you missed that train and stay away.

Buy promising looking coins with low marketcaps and growth potential and be patient.  Don't buy after the marketcap has risen 100x already.

If a coin is being hyped and praised as the second coming of satoshi, stay away.  Even if it is a legit project, the dump will come and you can buy in cheaper.

Don't panic because the coins you are holding haven't doubled in price an hour after you bought them or they have stumbled in price.  Crypto is cyclical.  Only the pure pumps and dumps die completely.  Coins with solid development and community support rise (and fall) again eventually.

When you are holding a coin whose 6 month price charts looks like the black line below, sell where those red arrows are pointing.
https://i.imgur.com/96MWgqN.png



Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: yvv on January 03, 2015, 09:28:16 PM
I'm not sure I quite understand this. It has happened every single time I bought a coin. Whether it's BTC, VTC, XPY, BC, DRK or even LTC. It doesn't matter what I buy it shits itself as soon as my buy order goes through. As soon as I get tired and sell it starts going up.  ???



This is because you are natural borne loser. You better learn how to live with this.


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: 42t on January 03, 2015, 09:28:56 PM
This is a common issue, the fix is relativity straightforward though it will require some items.

ITEMS:

1 small mammal, squirrels and other rodents work, though honestly I got the best results from goats

1 one knife of at least 15 years old, and it has to have personally taken at least 13 souls

about 100 ml of mercury, this will be explained later

1 paper wallet of the crypto you wish you to fix your problem with, at least $100 usd value

PROCESS:

Slather your mammal in mercury, the mercury acts a lubricant for easier passage to the spirit plane.

Stick the paper wallet to the mammal.

Stab the mammal through the paper wallet using the sacrificial knife

While the animal is dying chant a prayer to the crypto god you wish to appease, whether it be ltc or whatever. The actual phrase is important but I find it works best if you make one personal to you.

Bury the animal in a secluded area. A proper deep burial using a shovel works best, but you can just throw it in a bush or place it on the ground and cover it with leaves.

Good luck!

Worked for me.


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: unusualfacts30 on January 03, 2015, 09:30:03 PM
Don't buy coins during a pump.  Admit you missed that train and stay away.

Buy promising looking coins with low marketcaps and growth potential and be patient.  Don't buy after the marketcap has risen 100x already.

If a coin is being hyped and praised as the second coming of satoshi, stay away.  Even if it is a legit project, the dump will come and you can buy in cheaper.

Don't panic because the coins you are holding haven't doubled in price an hour after you bought them or they have stumbled in price.  Crypto is cyclical.  Only the pure pumps and dumps die completely.  Coins with solid development and community support rise (and fall) again eventually.

When you are holding a coin whose 6 month price charts looks like the black line below, sell where those red arrows are pointing.
https://i.imgur.com/96MWgqN.png



I'm not bad at trading..I don't think. I study chart before I invest. Look at CANN..it's a perfect example of my past investment. It stopped rising as soon as my buy order went through and look how badly it crashed since last pump in October.

I don't even look for 100% profit anymore..mostly I'm looking for 5-10% but that seems like a rocket science in crypto. It has been shitty 8 months for me. I hold so many bags it's not even funny.

I'll give you another example of BTC too. I purchased it at 400 and two days later that bear whale decided to dump his 35k and ever since price has been struggling to reach 400. In fact it's at 290 right now.

It's just shit luck


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: yvv on January 03, 2015, 09:34:20 PM

I'm not bad at trading..I don't think.

Oh boy! Stop lying to yourself. Didn't mama tell you that the lie is sin? Lying to yourself is a double sin. Gods punish you, little asshole.


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: unusualfacts30 on January 03, 2015, 09:38:36 PM

I'm not bad at trading..I don't think.

Oh boy! Stop lying to yourself. Didn't mama tell you that the lie is sin? Lying to yourself is a double sin. Gods punish you, little asshole.


some bear whale decides to dump his coins as soon as I buy BTC

CANN gets in fight with CCN and price dumps on the day of big news (when it should rise)

XPY decides to commit suicide on the day my buy order goes through

Bobsurplus decides to ditch BitBay as soon as I decided to invest in it.


I don't think they all are just bad trading example. It's a shit luck..there is no way in hell I can predict those things.


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: yvv on January 03, 2015, 09:43:22 PM

I'm not bad at trading..I don't think.

Oh boy! Stop lying to yourself. Didn't mama tell you that the lie is sin? Lying to yourself is a double sin. Gods punish you, little asshole.


some bear whale decides to dump his coins as soon as I buy BTC

CANN gets in fight with CCN and price dumps on the day of big news (when it should rise)

XPY decides to commit suicide on the day my buy order goes through

Bobsurplus decides to ditch BitBay as soon as I decided to invest in it.


I don't think they all are just bad trading example. It's a shit luck..there is no way in hell I can predict those things.

You are getting smarter fast! Did you try to throw dice before you do your investment? Try it. Some people say it helps.


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: SockPuppetAccount on January 03, 2015, 09:55:25 PM

I'm not bad at trading..I don't think.

Oh boy! Stop lying to yourself. Didn't mama tell you that the lie is sin? Lying to yourself is a double sin. Gods punish you, little asshole.


some bear whale decides to dump his coins as soon as I buy BTC

CANN gets in fight with CCN and price dumps on the day of big news (when it should rise)

XPY decides to commit suicide on the day my buy order goes through

Bobsurplus decides to ditch BitBay as soon as I decided to invest in it.


I don't think they all are just bad trading example. It's a shit luck..there is no way in hell I can predict those things.

You are a bad trader.  It is not shameful to admit.  It is the first step in correcting your past mistakes.

I don't really play the bitcoin/usd markets so no comment there.  You can't always buy right at the bottom though.  See line 4 of my previous post.

I don't even know what CCN is and CANN is trash.  You shouldn't have bought CANN if you didn't already before it's first big pump.  See lines 1 and 2 of my previous post.

XPY.  I don't know where to start.  See lines 1,2,3 of my previous post.

Bitbay.  Bobsurplus ICO.  Do I need to say more?  Have you committed to only buying into pump and dumps with unrealistic promises?

CANN, XPY, and Bitbay had my bullshit detectors lit up from the word go.  If you are paying attention, yours should have too.


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: GGGGG on January 03, 2015, 09:59:14 PM
I'm not sure I quite understand this. It has happened every single time I bought a coin. Whether it's BTC, VTC, XPY, BC, DRK or even LTC. It doesn't matter what I buy it shits itself as soon as my buy order goes through. As soon as I get tired and sell it starts going up.  ???



You are a gifted individual. You should run a hedge fund making the most out of this "talent". Just sell when you want to buy and buy when you feel it's necessary to sell. 

Stop complaining and get back to making $$. Your battery of luck seems to be installed incorrectly, change the poles before it got damaged or your cash will burn a hole in your pocket.  ;)


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: flapman1 on January 03, 2015, 10:49:44 PM
Unless you're a master day trader just buy into new coins with good vibes or new ICOs without scam rumors. Watch the charts. If the ICO dips down after trading opens sell right away, 99% of the time that's the end. Watch the forums, most all on here is self serving manipulative BS but if the FUD is constant and seems to speak to the same issues sell off right away. Set low sell orders to catch giant dumps and at least have your money back if a dev decides he wants a holiday or if a real scam is revealed whilst your sleeping.  Real tech, devs and community will make a coin last longer than the P&D crap but not forever. That said, some of the trash coins dial up their own fake buy support; these can be a nice ride but see above re the low sell orders as the scammers will always cash out sooner than later.  No altcoin has managed to provide itself with real demand from a real user base although some are trying their best. There just aren't enough people in crypto to power this and those with real money in the real world are staying well clear of this cesspool. Don't get emotionally involved in a coin: 99% of the time the dev team is justing waiting to exit at the highest point they think they can reach.  Don't do chart analysis or trust those who say they've done so: the alt markets are 100% manipulated and do not rise and fall on free market trading logic and principals.


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: arieq on January 03, 2015, 11:51:59 PM
I'm not sure I quite understand this. It has happened every single time I bought a coin. Whether it's BTC, VTC, XPY, BC, DRK or even LTC. It doesn't matter what I buy it shits itself as soon as my buy order goes through. As soon as I get tired and sell it starts going up.  ???

I think you're not alone in this crypto world, I also make many mistakes in crypto trading... i lose half on every crash panic selling and panic buying :(


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: ANTIcentralized on January 04, 2015, 12:04:49 AM
I doesn't matter what I buy it shits itself as soon as my buy order goes through. As soon as I get tired and sell it starts going up.  ???

lol

You should never buy when there is almost no volume or a bad vibe around a coin.

 ;D :D :D

I never buy low volume coins.

lol

I buy coins that have good vibes but as soon as I purchase bad vibes start creeping in.

LMFAO

XPY..another example. It was pumping normally and as soon as I bought it just so I could get quick 10% profit ..it reached NEW low

LOL

I don't even look for 100% profit anymore..mostly I'm looking for 5-10%

 :D

just buy into new coins with good vibes or new ICOs without scam rumors.

  ;D :) :D ;D ;D

Fucking comedians


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: sethminer14 on January 04, 2015, 12:35:14 AM
Sometimes you need to not get caught up in emotions. If you feel like you really need to buy a coin, that is probably because it is skyrocketing up, but when it is skyrocketing up, chances are it will soon plummet to the ground.


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: pragmatic gut on January 04, 2015, 02:36:57 AM
Most of the coins I buy go up ..... 70% or better .......

...however, of that 70% ...... I sell too soon ....

.... and end up with 50% of what I started with ......

... so,

.... buy low, sell high ....

... if you missed the train ..... let that train go ....

... be patient ...... like 6 months patient ....

... XPY and CANN ......


.... I was in XPY at first .... bought at 44 and it went down to 30 ..... then it went back to 44 .... when it did not go through that 44 buy wall ... I caught drift on Cryptsy chat .. ... the XPY model was too fuzzy and too shiny ..... I dumped ... thank god

....CANN ..... the coin does not seem to be penetrating any real world application ...... it seems to be dying .... saw it going down to 1100 ..... do not think it has a good upside now ...... its getting too much moss ....

... the new coin pipeline play is riskier .... no track record .....

... this next year will be interesting ......

...if you like a coin ... buy at bottom ..... if your buy order does not go through ... move on ...


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: ronimacarroni on January 04, 2015, 02:52:47 AM
cann failed because it didnt offer anything new.
Anyone can make a clone and claim its for a specific purpose.


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: merockstar on January 04, 2015, 03:52:16 AM
yea that's how it works for me too.

my advice to you is to stop day trading.

research all the coins thoroughly, and pick the very best, most innovative ones.

buy those. consistently. like the same small amount out of every paycheck, whether the price be high, or low. i think they call this dollar cost averaging.

when you have as much stacked as you're willing to risk, forget about them.

for a long time.

a really long time.

if the fundamentals were sound, and the product was innovative, then it will still be around in 2-3 years time. at which point you'll probably be up 10000%


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: QuantumLeap on January 04, 2015, 03:55:15 AM
buy those. consistently. like the same small amount out of every paycheck, whether the price be high, or low.

Translation: go to bathroom, lift toilet seat... insert money... flush

it's much quicker that way

i think they call this dollar cost averaging.

... or stupidity

when you have as much stacked as you're willing to risk, forget about them.

for a long time.

a really long time.

if the fundamentals were sound, and the product was innovative, then it will still be around in 2-3 years time. at which point you'll probably be up 10000%

Biggest lump of foolishness that I have seen written on the internet in a very long time, well done for that


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: merockstar on January 04, 2015, 03:58:25 AM
buy those. consistently. like the same small amount out of every paycheck, whether the price be high, or low. i think they call this dollar cost averaging.

Translation: go to bathroom, lift toilet seat... insert money... flush

it's much quicker that way

when you have as much stacked as you're willing to risk, forget about them.

for a long time.

a really long time.

if the fundamentals were sound, and the product was innovative, then it will still be around in 2-3 years time. at which point you'll probably be up 10000%

Biggest lump of foolishness that I have seen written on the internet in a very long time, well done for that

I mean... you could explain why I'm wrong and maybe change my view...


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: QuantumLeap on January 04, 2015, 04:03:38 AM
I mean... you could explain why I'm wrong and maybe change my view...

Just use that exact same method you just described to trade. The market will surely provide you with a much better explanation than I ever could


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: merockstar on January 04, 2015, 04:06:02 AM
I mean... you could explain why I'm wrong and maybe change my view...

Just use that exact same method you just described to trade. The market will surely provide you with a much better explanation than I ever could

fair enough, i didn't offer much explanation of why I feel that way either. i look forward to finding out how my plan plays out either way.


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: balu2 on January 04, 2015, 04:07:58 AM
just change your strategy and trade opposite what you normally would  ;)


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: sorryforthat on January 04, 2015, 04:18:46 AM
This is because you are natural borne loser. You better learn how to live with this.

Good help is so hard to find.

I think the real answer is to spend more time reading before investments go through. Learn the tech and understand what is offered. Do not by any means invest into something someone tells you to, insure that you have some knowledge.


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: CodyAlfaridzi on January 04, 2015, 04:22:15 AM
Simply because you're unlucky ::)
lol jk, It's not only you! Most of the times it happen to me too when I bought altcoin


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: unusualfacts30 on January 04, 2015, 10:54:12 AM
just change your strategy and trade opposite what you normally would  ;)

seems like I should do opposite of my gut reaction but it's hard to differentiate between gut reaction and emotions when you're trading with real money. It's only after I lose money I can tell which feelling was gut reaction.  :-[


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: coinits on January 04, 2015, 10:55:41 AM
I'm not sure I quite understand this. It has happened every single time I bought a coin. Whether it's BTC, VTC, XPY, BC, DRK or even LTC. It doesn't matter what I buy it shits itself as soon as my buy order goes through. As soon as I get tired and sell it starts going up.  ???



Because day trading cryptos is risky business.


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: thompete on January 04, 2015, 12:50:44 PM
I'm not sure I quite understand this. It has happened every single time I bought a coin. Whether it's BTC, VTC, XPY, BC, DRK or even LTC. It doesn't matter what I buy it shits itself as soon as my buy order goes through. As soon as I get tired and sell it starts going up.  ???


Well, it might be just luck. But sometimes, you can follow twitter handles of famous tipper and pickers .
They just suggest buying coins which would hopefully be profitable. Obvious, there might be other motives behind that, but you can always follow at first and test later.


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: cassius69 on January 04, 2015, 01:12:49 PM
the worst traders in the world are attracted to crypto


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: unusualfacts30 on January 04, 2015, 01:29:25 PM
the worst traders in the world are attracted to crypto

Only reason I like trading crypto is because you never lose 100% of your investment (as long as you're investing in trustworthy coins). For example: Even if you bought Doge during all time high there is still hope that some day it might get pumped back to that price again. You'll never lose 100% of your investment as long as you keep your coins. Even if you're investing $5..it'll never become zero and most likely it'll pump back to $5+ within few months. People say it's risky but they have never invested in forex where you lose 100% if shit goes down.

It's more of a waiting game and sometimes you have to wait for longer time period and that's what I hate.



Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: GGGGG on January 04, 2015, 01:55:38 PM
the worst traders in the world are attracted to crypto

Only reason I like trading crypto is because you never lose 100% of your investment (as long as you're investing in trustworthy coins). For example: Even if you bought Doge during all time high there is still hope that some day it might get pumped back to that price again. You'll never lose 100% of your investment as long as you keep your coins. Even if you're investing $5..it'll never become zero and most likely it'll pump back to $5+ within few months. People say it's risky but they have never invested in forex where you lose 100% if shit goes down.

It's more of a waiting game and sometimes you have to wait for longer time period and that's what I hate.



In Forex yes, but it's due to high available margin. Above is correct about any currency in the world if you use zero leverage, so not only cryptos.


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: yvv on January 04, 2015, 02:29:29 PM
just change your strategy and trade opposite what you normally would  ;)

This is what I was telling to my wife before GPS navigators were developed. She used to drive the opposite direction from what she needed with 99% consistency. I told her many times, that if she wants to go right, she must turn left instead. Sounds easy, but it never worked.


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: coinits on January 04, 2015, 04:59:24 PM
A lot of day traders look at the coins and see coin xyz is up 50% today I better get in on that action. Sometimes it will continue to rise and you do make some profit. Most of the time you will buy in at the peak and then a sell off occurs and you end up taking a loss and/or being a bag holder.

The trick is finding that coin before it breaks out but at the end of the day, while some will disagree, it is a risk.


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: tokeweed on January 04, 2015, 05:26:50 PM
it helps when you watch the markets daily so you get some sorta feel for it.  once you get familiar with the different markets, you notice gradual rising prices a lot sooner in some coins that become full blown uptrends later.  for example, take a look at NXT, it's slowly going up, it could be a good time to place a bet at these prices. but also be ready to take a small loss if your trade goes against you cos most of the time these breakouts more likely are fake and tend to reverse.

good luck.


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: picolo on January 04, 2015, 05:42:07 PM
If you are not following the market daily, you are likely to buy high and sell low because you are likely not to have an edge against other traders. Buy when people are selling : now; and maybe sell when everyone will be buying.


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: sumantso on January 04, 2015, 06:01:42 PM
Hmm, so you're a contra indicator? I would request you to post publicly your trades, that way you will be doing all of us a service :D


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: Equate on January 04, 2015, 06:08:49 PM
You need to study how market is reacting currently and how it reacted in the past . You need to invest into something at the right time . Buying when the price is high and panic selling when the market is plummeting is an utter disaster.


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: scientific on January 04, 2015, 06:14:27 PM
Then the next time do just the opposite of what you would normally do! :D


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: huntercerebellumr on January 04, 2015, 06:14:59 PM
I'm not sure I quite understand this. It has happened every single time I bought a coin. Whether it's BTC, VTC, XPY, BC, DRK or even LTC. It doesn't matter what I buy it shits itself as soon as my buy order goes through. As soon as I get tired and sell it starts going up.  ???




Because you want to profit too much

You say you buy coins, the profitable way is, you don't buy coins you get your buy order filled so in the end they sell to you at a much lower price,

You don't sell your coins, you just wait, 2 months, 5 months, then finally you dump them to the highest bidder at a spike at any price above the original price you paid to get them.

That's how you profit,


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: djm34 on January 04, 2015, 06:42:51 PM
I'm not sure I quite understand this. It has happened every single time I bought a coin. Whether it's BTC, VTC, XPY, BC, DRK or even LTC. It doesn't matter what I buy it shits itself as soon as my buy order goes through. As soon as I get tired and sell it starts going up.  ???


don't put large buy or sell order, this isn't attractive to anyone, that just feels desperate...


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: chesthing on January 04, 2015, 08:07:10 PM
It's not luck. Look at the chart of a coin you are considering. If there is a period of time where the price is stable and very low that you missed out on, stay the fuck away. Chances are excellent you will end up giving these early buyers profits and yourself losses. Sometimes, not very often you buy into a pump and it turns out good - but the chances of that happening pretty much suck, so fuck all of them.
Now, spend your time looking to get in at that low level BEFORE the pump.


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: picolo on January 04, 2015, 08:52:54 PM
It's not luck. Look at the chart of a coin you are considering. If there is a period of time where the price is stable and very low that you missed out on, stay the fuck away. Chances are excellent you will end up giving these early buyers profits and yourself losses. Sometimes, not very often you buy into a pump and it turns out good - but the chances of that happening pretty much suck, so fuck all of them.
Now, spend your time looking to get in at that low level BEFORE the pump.

If you buy a few bitcoins everything two weeks you take advantage of the low prices.


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: darkmind on January 04, 2015, 10:01:01 PM
I also made some mistakes in my coin trading, I started with like 1.5K USD and lost a lot of it during the crashes. But then I managed to win it back, and now I am losing again, happy I didn't put in more than this nowadays but still it's hurt to be a loser


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: IBGigglin on January 04, 2015, 10:12:21 PM
Stop considering it buying. Tell yourself investing. Dont invest unless you think its a good investment.

If the price drops but the item/project/coin/asset you invested in is still the exact same as is was when you paid what you did, why would you sell?

Making educated 'buys' creates a mental backbone in your portfolio to stay optimistic when panic ensues.

You will not profit on them all. Period.

But making profit is way easier than most butt hurt people make it seem when you invest with your own knowledge.


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: Abel82 on January 06, 2015, 02:44:15 PM
Don't buy coins during a pump.  Admit you missed that train and stay away.

Buy promising looking coins with low marketcaps and growth potential and be patient.  Don't buy after the marketcap has risen 100x already.

If a coin is being hyped and praised as the second coming of satoshi, stay away.  Even if it is a legit project, the dump will come and you can buy in cheaper.

Don't panic because the coins you are holding haven't doubled in price an hour after you bought them or they have stumbled in price.  Crypto is cyclical.  Only the pure pumps and dumps die completely.  Coins with solid development and community support rise (and fall) again eventually.

When you are holding a coin whose 6 month price charts looks like the black line below, sell where those red arrows are pointing.
https://i.imgur.com/96MWgqN.png




NIIIIICE picture!!!

In a nutshell this is the way it is.  ;D


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: Sumerian on January 06, 2015, 02:45:54 PM
Because you are doing it wrong ?

You should never buy when there is almost no volume or a bad vibe around a coin.

I didn't get a bad vibe of Vericoin to be honest


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: bakedrice on January 23, 2016, 09:14:56 AM
Maybe you're doing this:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYwE-L3WMAALTfl.jpg


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: tokeweed on January 23, 2016, 09:28:21 AM
And avoid putting too much stock in the news.  Unless you're an insider or know someone who is, you will not know what's really going on behind a price move.  The news is mostly market noise and could affect your trading.

Later on when you meet people on the forum, it's good to join or start your own trading group and do all your research together, share strategies, etc...  It really helps get better at trading and it definitely helps your bottom line.


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: findftp on January 23, 2016, 09:47:27 AM
And avoid putting too much stock in the news.  Unless you're an insider or know someone who is, you will not know what's really going on behind a price move.  The news is mostly market noise and could affect your trading.

Later on when you meet people on the forum, it's good to join or start your own trading group and do all your research together, share strategies, etc...  It really helps get better at trading and it definitely helps your bottom line.

Of course you should!
Generally speaking you should sell with positive news, not buy.


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: tokeweed on January 23, 2016, 09:57:44 AM
And avoid putting too much stock in the news.  Unless you're an insider or know someone who is, you will not know what's really going on behind a price move.  The news is mostly market noise and could affect your trading.

Later on when you meet people on the forum, it's good to join or start your own trading group and do all your research together, share strategies, etc...  It really helps get better at trading and it definitely helps your bottom line.

Of course you should!
Generally speaking you should sell with positive news, not buy.


What if momentum continues after you sell?  You really can't leave money on the table as it makes all the difference vs your bad trades.


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: hiddensphinx on January 23, 2016, 02:20:16 PM
never buy the top, you will get dumped on

buy shitcoins awaiting something news based event in the future

look for liquidity!  :P


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: iv4n on January 23, 2016, 02:36:06 PM
never buy the top, you will get dumped on

buy shitcoins awaiting something news based event in the future

look for liquidity!  :P

Where is best place to find news about that kind of events? They always have some announcements here on forum, is there some special place for news like that?
Is earned few time on trading but I talk with people on chat and I followed their advices for some coins. But its not working every time.


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: davien on January 23, 2016, 04:27:39 PM
Just don't give a damn about Trollboxes. That's the secret, too many fudders and hypers over there .


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: tokeweed on January 23, 2016, 04:46:37 PM
Just don't give a damn about Trollboxes. That's the secret, too many fudders and hypers over there .

The news is almost the same.  But on a whole new level.


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on January 23, 2016, 05:40:28 PM
I'm not sure I quite understand this. It has happened every single time I bought a coin. Whether it's BTC, VTC, XPY, BC, DRK or even LTC. It doesn't matter what I buy it shits itself as soon as my buy order goes through. As soon as I get tired and sell it starts going up.  ???


Buy when it drops, not when it rises.  Hell I don't know.   The same thing happens to me most of the time too.  Just hold and you should be ok.   Maybe you're trading too much?


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: BitcoinNational on January 23, 2016, 06:01:22 PM
Watto: No, they won't-a. What? You think you're some kind of Jedi, waving your hand around like that? I'm a Toydarian. Mind tricks don't work on me. Only money. No money, no parts, no deal!


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: hiddensphinx on January 23, 2016, 06:40:55 PM
patience is also key, most alts bottomed out during late 2015 and have risen in 2016 like Dogecoin, Ether, Dash etc

buy low and hold and have patience


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: BellaBitBit on January 23, 2016, 06:57:54 PM
This has happened to me a few times  :(  I have a buddy that is a commodities trader and he has a name for that kind of a trader and I cannot remember the name, he said they get a name real fast amongst other traders...i think it is called a Mush or something like that.  It is like it never fails, they buy and it drops, they sell and it goes up.


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: BTCLovingDude on January 24, 2016, 04:36:00 AM
this is story of my life.
but after a while and loosing some money you realize your mistakes and start profiting.


Title: Re: Why does price fall when I buy and it rises after I sell?
Post by: davien on January 24, 2016, 09:50:31 AM
this is story of my life.
but after a while and loosing some money you realize your mistakes and start profiting.
You are right. You can learn from you own mistakes everytime.