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Title: Riemann hypothesis - Proof
Post by: Tusk on January 05, 2015, 10:10:41 PM
Here is a link to the shared document any feedback welcome

Riemann hypothesis - Proof
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz5xt1KEGIi-OElBSEtYZjZTLUk/view?usp=sharing

As some of the images were difficult to show in the document here are links to larger ones
Main Diagram
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz5xt1KEGIi-X0EyV3pXM0dsN0E/view?usp=sharing

Critical Strip
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz5xt1KEGIi-WDYtMDd5UDdCMVE/view?usp=sharing

Sine Wave Diagram
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz5xt1KEGIi-TkZJU2c4ZVlXVkE/view?usp=sharing

Prime Numbers
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz5xt1KEGIi-ZHVOcHV1TjFpSTQ/view?usp=sharing


Thanks


Title: Re: Riemann hypothesis - Proof
Post by: findftp on January 06, 2015, 12:29:06 AM
Here is a link to the shared document any feedback welcome

Riemann hypothesis - Proof
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz5xt1KEGIi-OElBSEtYZjZTLUk/view?usp=sharing

As some of the images were difficult to show in the document here are links to larger ones
Main Diagram
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz5xt1KEGIi-X0EyV3pXM0dsN0E/view?usp=sharing

Critical Strip
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz5xt1KEGIi-WDYtMDd5UDdCMVE/view?usp=sharing

Sine Wave Diagram
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz5xt1KEGIi-TkZJU2c4ZVlXVkE/view?usp=sharing

Prime Numbers
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz5xt1KEGIi-ZHVOcHV1TjFpSTQ/view?usp=sharing


Thanks


So what's your point?
Just dump some random off topic data in this forum?


Title: Re: Riemann hypothesis - Proof
Post by: iamback on January 06, 2015, 12:43:14 AM
I don't have time to study this in detail, and it seems to be off topic of Economics and perhaps belongs in the Technical discussion thread.

But if there is breakthrough on the dimensionality of primes, this could potentially have major implications on cracking public-key cryptography.


Title: Re: Riemann hypothesis - Proof
Post by: criptix on January 06, 2015, 12:49:26 AM
didnt read yet, but if its correct the author will get atleast a million $ from the Clay Mathematics Institute (CMI) :D


Title: Re: Riemann hypothesis - Proof
Post by: findftp on January 06, 2015, 12:50:33 AM
didnt read yet, but if its correct the author will get atleast a million $ for it :D

Wow, expect the bitcoin price to jump!
I would exchange all fiat for BTC right now :)


Title: Re: Riemann hypothesis - Proof
Post by: username18333 on January 06, 2015, 02:49:25 AM
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/images/equations/RiemannZetaFunction/NumberedEquation3.gif

The problem here is that conventional mathematics uses a flawed (i.e., partially anti-symmetric [i.e., one divided by infinity is equal to zero and one divided by zero is undefined]) numerical system. The Riemann hypothesis should be provable when using Earth (https://rgeo5wj7gneidzh3.onion.lt)’s numerical system with the system’s zero approached from the positive direction (which is of greater magnitude than its positive infinity) in the place of the traditional infinity of the conventional Riemann zeta function.

Quote from: Earth’s set of all real numbers
Code:
ℝ = {*0⁺, …, −*1, …, −1, …, 0⁻, 0⁺, …, 1, …, *1, …, *0⁻}


Title: Re: Riemann hypothesis - Proof
Post by: bitcoin_purist on January 06, 2015, 09:49:16 AM
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/images/equations/RiemannZetaFunction/NumberedEquation3.gif

The problem here is that conventional mathematics uses a flawed (i.e., partially anti-symmetric [i.e., one divided by infinity is equal to zero and one divided by zero is undefined]) numerical system. The Riemann hypothesis should be provable when using Earth (https://rgeo5wj7gneidzh3.onion.lt)’s numerical system with the system’s zero approached from the positive direction (which is of greater magnitude than its positive infinity) in the place of the traditional infinity of the conventional Riemann zeta function.

Quote from: Earth’s set of all real numbers
Code:
ℝ = {0⁻, −∞, …, −1, …, −⅟∞, −0⁻, −0⁺, ⅟∞, …, 1, …, ∞, 0⁺}

I don't understand sh*t of what you just said, but it looks important :)
However, what does this have to do on the economics forum? Isn't it a more appropriate place to put it in the development board if this has technical implications for the functionality of bitcoin or crypto in general?


Title: Re: Riemann hypothesis - Proof
Post by: cr1776 on January 07, 2015, 01:40:04 AM
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/images/equations/RiemannZetaFunction/NumberedEquation3.gif

The problem here is that conventional mathematics uses a flawed (i.e., partially anti-symmetric [i.e., one divided by infinity is equal to zero and one divided by zero is undefined]) numerical system. The Riemann hypothesis should be provable when using Earth (https://rgeo5wj7gneidzh3.onion.lt)’s numerical system with the system’s zero approached from the positive direction (which is of greater magnitude than its positive infinity) in the place of the traditional infinity of the conventional Riemann zeta function.

Quote from: Earth’s set of all real numbers
Code:
ℝ = {0⁻, −∞, …, −1, …, −⅟∞, −0⁻, −0⁺, ⅟∞, …, 1, …, ∞, 0⁺}

Why is the link through Tor?


Title: Re: Riemann hypothesis - Proof
Post by: cynicSOB on February 01, 2015, 03:33:41 AM
I don't understand sh*t of what you just said, but it looks important :)

it's not... full of baloney


Title: Re: Riemann hypothesis - Proof
Post by: Reynaldo on February 02, 2015, 07:13:26 PM
I don't have time to study this in detail, and it seems to be off topic of Economics and perhaps belongs in the Technical discussion thread.

But if there is breakthrough on the dimensionality of primes, this could potentially have major implications on cracking public-key cryptography.

Please define dimensionality of primes.

if people actually found a formula to determine every prime then we couldnt use them for cryptography since it would be easy to determine any given primer number on the sequence and then it would break most of the cryptography that relies on the factorization problem, it was proven by Euclid that there are infinte prime numbers.

https://primes.utm.edu/notes/proofs/infinite/euclids.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integer_factorization


Title: Re: Riemann hypothesis - Proof
Post by: coric on February 03, 2015, 11:37:04 AM
So, you're trying to reinvent limits? Nice, but you're some centuries late in that.

Yes, the singularity of 1/x can be "removed", even on the complex plane if you add an infinity point to make it a sphere, it becomes a simple reflection
Now Riemann's function is a wee bit more difficult ;)


Title: Re: Riemann hypothesis - Proof
Post by: coric on February 03, 2015, 11:38:46 AM
And if you had a proof, you'd be at least a million dollar richer. Why are you posting that here?


Title: Re: Riemann hypothesis – Proof
Post by: username18333 on February 04, 2015, 02:11:33 AM
So, you're trying to reinvent limits? Nice, but you're some centuries late in that.

Yes, the singularity of 1/x can be "removed", even on the complex plane if you add an infinity point to make it a sphere, it becomes a simple reflection
Now Riemann's function is a wee bit more difficult ;)


Code:
( ∀𝑥 𝑥 ∈ (0⁺, *0⁻) )  ⇒  [( 0 ± 𝑥 = {0⁻ − 𝑥, 0⁺ + 𝑥} = {−𝑥, 𝑥} ) ∧ ( *0 ± 𝑥 = {*0⁺ + 𝑥, *0⁻ − 𝑥} = {−*𝑥, *𝑥} )]

It is not “an infinity point” (coric), for such a point would not accomodate conventional mathematics’ “hyperreal numbers.” Instead, it is an origin—one that has been missed sorely.


Title: Re: Riemann hypothesis – Proof
Post by: coric on February 04, 2015, 07:51:31 AM

Code:
( ∀𝑥 𝑥 ∈ (−0, 0) )  ⇒  ( −0 ± 𝑥 = {−𝑥, 𝑥} ) ∧ ( 0 ± 𝑥 = {0⁻ + 𝑥, 0⁺ − 𝑥} )

It is not “an infinity point” (coric), for such a point would not accomodate conventional mathematics’ “hyperreal numbers.” Instead, it is an origin—one that has been missed sorely.
The "point" is the one which you add to the complex plane to make the sphere ^C (can't post correct symbol on my phone). Guess after whom it is named ;)
And hyperteal numbers? The Riemann zeta function is defined on the complex plane! You can't even formulaze the hypothesis in some set where you add some funny infinitesimals to the real numbers in order to make 1/x somehow more pleasing. In complex analysis that's already as simple as it can get.


Title: Re: Riemann hypothesis - Proof
Post by: R2D221 on February 04, 2015, 04:55:18 PM
The Riemann hypothesis has nothing to do with Bitcoin, at all.

This should go in Off-Topic.


Title: Re: Riemann hypothesis – Proof
Post by: username18333 on February 05, 2015, 05:37:32 AM

Code:
( ∀𝑥 𝑥 ∈ (0⁺, *0⁻) )  ⇒  [( 0 ± 𝑥 = {0⁻ − 𝑥, 0⁺ + 𝑥} = {−𝑥, 𝑥} ) ∧ ( *0 ± 𝑥 = {*0⁺ + 𝑥, *0⁻ − 𝑥} = {−*𝑥, *𝑥} )]

It is not “an infinity point” (coric), for such a point would not accomodate conventional mathematics’ “hyperreal numbers.” Instead, it is an origin—one that has been missed sorely.

The "point" is the one which you add to the complex plane to make the sphere ^C (can't post correct symbol on my phone). Guess after whom it is named ;)
And hyperteal numbers? The Riemann zeta function is defined on the complex plane! You can't even formulaze the hypothesis in some set where you add some funny infinitesimals to the real numbers in order to make 1/x somehow more pleasing. In complex analysis that's already as simple as it can get.

Code:
( ∀𝑥 𝑥 ∈ (0⁺, *0⁻) )  ⇒  ( 𝜉(*0 ± 𝑥) = ½[½ + 𝑖(*0 ± 𝑥)]([½ + 𝑖(*0 ± 𝑥)] − 1)𝜋^(−[½ + 𝑖(*0 ± 𝑥)] ÷ 2)Γ([½ + 𝑖(*0 ± 𝑥)] ÷ 2)𝜁(½ + 𝑖(*0 ± 𝑥)) ≟ 0 )

You were saying?


Title: Re: Riemann hypothesis - Proof
Post by: Possum577 on February 05, 2015, 05:41:16 AM
IF the OP doesn't have time to summarize the articles and share his opinion on them then I don't think we have the time to do the same.


Title: Re: Riemann hypothesis - Proof
Post by: Possum577 on February 05, 2015, 05:45:34 AM
How does this mathematical theory serve as a predictor for the human action of supply and demand, which directly impacts the price?


Title: Re: Riemann hypothesis - Proof
Post by: username18333 on February 05, 2015, 05:48:34 AM
How does this mathematical theory serve as a predictor for the human action of supply and demand, which directly impacts the price?

If earthly humanity could reach the point of proving that hypothesis, it would transcend “supply and demand” (Possum577).


Title: Re: Riemann hypothesis - Proof
Post by: R2D221 on February 05, 2015, 05:49:37 AM
How does this mathematical theory serve as a predictor for the human action of supply and demand, which directly impacts the price?

If earthly humanity could reach the point of proving that hypothesis, it would transcend “supply and demand” (Possum577).

But, would it explain it?


Title: Re: Riemann hypothesis - Proof
Post by: username18333 on February 05, 2015, 05:51:19 AM
How does this mathematical theory serve as a predictor for the human action of supply and demand, which directly impacts the price?

If earthly humanity could reach the point of proving that hypothesis, it would transcend “supply and demand” (Possum577).

But, would it explain it?

Yes: “Monkey see, monkey do.”


Title: Re: Riemann hypothesis - Proof
Post by: R2D221 on February 05, 2015, 05:55:14 AM
Would it want to‽

What?


Title: Re: Riemann hypothesis - Proof
Post by: R2D221 on February 05, 2015, 06:13:20 AM
Yes: “Monkey see, monkey do.”

What??


Title: Re: Riemann hypothesis - Proof
Post by: username18333 on February 05, 2015, 06:31:51 AM
. . .

If earthly humanity could reach the point of proving that hypothesis, it would transcend “supply and demand” (Possum577).

But, would it explain it?

Yes: “Monkey see, monkey do.”

What??

Hyperreality (whereof, possession is an element) is characteristic of a more primitive sentience.


Title: Re: Riemann hypothesis - Proof
Post by: R2D221 on February 05, 2015, 06:37:12 AM
Please don't change my question marks.


Title: Re: Riemann hypothesis - Proof
Post by: R2D221 on February 05, 2015, 06:41:01 AM
Hyperreality (whereof, possession is an element) is characteristic of a more primitive sentience.

I still don't get how this relates to economics at all.


Title: Re: Riemann hypothesis - Proof
Post by: username18333 on February 05, 2015, 06:47:41 AM
. . .

Hyperreality (whereof, possession is an element) is characteristic of a more primitive sentience.

I still don't get how this relates to economics at all.

Existential development could subdue “economics” (R2D221) and render it “nought.”


Title: Re: Riemann hypothesis - Proof
Post by: R2D221 on February 05, 2015, 01:39:24 PM
Existential development could subdue “economics” (R2D221) and render it “nought.”

Even if you were right (which I don't think), that wouldn't happen over night and we would still need economics for many years to come. And as such, this proof still does nothing to explain supply and demand of other concepts of economics.