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Title: Bitcointalk and VPN Post by: legendster on January 11, 2015, 03:54:38 PM Well I know it is not possible to open an account using VPN Services like Hidemyass or other KNOWN providers, but is it possible for a hacker/scammer to open an alternate account here with different IP addresses using VPN ?
I ask this out of curiosity. I faintly doubt that this guy : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=146220 is an alt account of this guy : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=136592 and this is why : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=708658.msg10114679#msg10114679 The eli guy claims to be from EU and Dev to be from NA. Is it possible for them to the same person ? Title: Re: Bitcointalk and VPN Post by: dbshck on January 11, 2015, 04:10:07 PM Well I know it is not possible to open an account using VPN Services like Hidemyass or other KNOWN providers, but is it possible for a hacker/scammer to open an alternate account here with different IP addresses using VPN ? It's possible. I've tried to register a new account here using CyberGhost VPN and the account created successfully. No problems at all. Bitcointalk isn't blocking VPN/Proxy/Tor, is it? Title: Re: Bitcointalk and VPN Post by: BookLover on January 11, 2015, 04:29:21 PM Last I heard, Bitcointalk was preventing people from registering who were using known Tor exit nodes, but not blocking registered accounts which were accessed through Tor. (Not quite sure on this, would like to see someone to confirm)
Title: Re: Bitcointalk and VPN Post by: shorena on January 11, 2015, 04:33:44 PM Last I heard, Bitcointalk was preventing people from registering who were using known Tor exit nodes, but not blocking registered accounts which were accessed through Tor. (Not quite sure on this, would like to see someone to confirm) Nope, its just that the IP addresses from known Tor exit nodes tend to have a lot of "evil points" which require a fee in order to create a new account. This is not related to Tor and any IP can collect these points. Spammers usually use Tor/VPNs to create accounts though. If you know someone that is allready well known here, that person can also vouch for you and contact an admin/mod to add said new account to a whitelist. Edit: Fee for evil points is usually small. See here[1] for more. [1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=772564.0 Title: Re: Bitcointalk and VPN Post by: Blazr on January 11, 2015, 04:35:37 PM No bitcointalk doesn't block VPN/Tor/Proxies from creating accounts at all. You might need to pay a small fee though if you are creating an account from one of these.
Title: Re: Bitcointalk and VPN Post by: legendster on January 11, 2015, 05:25:33 PM Thank you guys for answering the silly question, feel free to discuss on this topic, I'll leave it open for whatever reasons.
Title: Re: Bitcointalk and VPN Post by: mitzie on January 11, 2015, 07:31:47 PM Well I know it is not possible to open an account using VPN Services like Hidemyass or other KNOWN providers, but is it possible for a hacker/scammer to open an alternate account here with different IP addresses using VPN ? Signing up using a VPN service is allowed, and therefore having multiple accounts is also allowed (even from the same IP) Title: Re: Bitcointalk and VPN Post by: Quickseller on January 11, 2015, 08:13:33 PM Well I know it is not possible to open an account using VPN Services like Hidemyass or other KNOWN providers, but is it possible for a hacker/scammer to open an alternate account here with different IP addresses using VPN ? It is news to me that it isn't possible to create an account using a known VPN provider. I would actually think that most people would use a known VPN provider to maintain their privacy. I have created most of my accounts via PIA which provides hosting for the forum. I ask this out of curiosity. I faintly doubt that this guy : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=146220 is an alt account of this guy : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=136592 and this is why : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=708658.msg10114679#msg10114679 The eli guy claims to be from EU and Dev to be from NA. Is it possible for them to the same person ? It is possible. But I kind of doubt it. Title: Re: Bitcointalk and VPN Post by: legendster on January 11, 2015, 10:44:39 PM Well I know it is not possible to open an account using VPN Services like Hidemyass or other KNOWN providers, but is it possible for a hacker/scammer to open an alternate account here with different IP addresses using VPN ? It is news to me that it isn't possible to create an account using a known VPN provider. I would actually think that most people would use a known VPN provider to maintain their privacy. I have created most of my accounts via PIA which provides hosting for the forum. I ask this out of curiosity. I faintly doubt that this guy : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=146220 is an alt account of this guy : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=136592 and this is why : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=708658.msg10114679#msg10114679 The eli guy claims to be from EU and Dev to be from NA. Is it possible for them to the same person ? It is possible. But I kind of doubt it. The chances of them being the same person are exceptionally low, in any case that issue is resolved so lets not drag their names here. Title: Re: Bitcointalk and VPN Post by: haploid23 on January 11, 2015, 10:53:47 PM No bitcointalk doesn't block VPN/Tor/Proxies from creating accounts at all. You might need to pay a small fee though if you are creating an account from one of these. Hmm interesting. I never knew certain types of registration requires a fee. How much is it? Title: Re: Bitcointalk and VPN Post by: Quickseller on January 11, 2015, 10:57:54 PM No bitcointalk doesn't block VPN/Tor/Proxies from creating accounts at all. You might need to pay a small fee though if you are creating an account from one of these. Hmm interesting. I never knew certain types of registration requires a fee. How much is it? When you register, the IP that you used when you submitted the registration form is used to calculate your evilness. The more frequently this IP or its neighbors were banned, the more evil is associated with your account. The amount of evil associated with an IP decays slowly over time, but the amount of evil associated with an account does not. You must pay or be manually whitelisted to enable posting on one of these "banned" accounts. Here are some stats:
Currently each unit of evil requires a payment of 4023 satoshi. You only need to pay something if you have 1 or more, though. Tor = 50 units of evil by default, I think. How are is the units of Evil thing calculated when making someone pay in order to start posting with an account? What criteria is used to make someone have to pay at all? large amount added to all IPs used small amount added to IP subnet Title: Re: Bitcointalk and VPN Post by: legendster on January 12, 2015, 02:32:29 PM This Evil-ness scheme is really evil -_-
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