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Title: Silk Road is Back
Post by: bitkilo on January 13, 2015, 09:39:58 PM
So Silk Road is back online and claims more secure than it's TOR site.
http://bitcoinist.net/silk-road-reloaded-claims-more-secure-tor/
Could this be the start of another bull run for bitcoin or will another crypto coin take over as the new coin of choice for the new silk road?


Title: Re: Silk road is Back
Post by: slacknation on January 14, 2015, 03:25:41 AM
hope it is, police are on his heels


Title: Re: Silk road is Back
Post by: michaeladair on January 14, 2015, 03:26:38 AM
I mean, this would certainly add more popularity back into the bitcoin market but I still don't condone this activity.


Title: Re: Silk road is Back
Post by: flipstyle on January 14, 2015, 03:27:24 AM
I'm sure more blackhat/ illegal activities will do wonders for public perception and send prices to DA MOON.


Title: Re: Silk Road is Back
Post by: bitkilo on January 14, 2015, 03:43:20 AM
I don't think public perception will really matter very much, everybody's heard it all before.
Whenever you mention bitcoin to someone that's not into it they always say something like "isn't that the money used to buy drugs with" even when Silk Road went down both times people were still saying this because they didn't know it went down.
I admit this is not good when people say that but it will go away in time when everybody learns the full use of BTC.


Title: Re: Silk Road is Back
Post by: flipstyle on January 14, 2015, 03:44:54 AM
I don't think public perception will really matter very much, everybody's heard it all before.
Whenever you mention bitcoin to someone that's not into it they always say something like "isn't that the money used to buy drugs with" even when Silk Road went down both times people were still saying this because they didn't know it went down.
I admit this is not good when people say that but it will go away in time when everybody learns the full use of BTC.

Public perception doesn't matter in an open market? lol what.


Dude. I don't even know where to begin.



Title: Re: Silk Road is Back
Post by: bitkilo on January 14, 2015, 03:49:59 AM
I don't think public perception will really matter very much, everybody's heard it all before.
Whenever you mention bitcoin to someone that's not into it they always say something like "isn't that the money used to buy drugs with" even when Silk Road went down both times people were still saying this because they didn't know it went down.
I admit this is not good when people say that but it will go away in time when everybody learns the full use of BTC.

Public perception doesn't matter in an open market? lol what.


Dude. I don't even know where to begin.


I just don't think it matters much because everybody's heard it all before, hundreds of times.


Title: Re: Silk Road is Back
Post by: flipstyle on January 14, 2015, 03:52:38 AM
I don't think public perception will really matter very much, everybody's heard it all before.
Whenever you mention bitcoin to someone that's not into it they always say something like "isn't that the money used to buy drugs with" even when Silk Road went down both times people were still saying this because they didn't know it went down.
I admit this is not good when people say that but it will go away in time when everybody learns the full use of BTC.

Public perception doesn't matter in an open market? lol what.


Dude. I don't even know where to begin.


I just don't think it matters much everybody's heard it all before

Just because they've heard it all before, doesn't mean that more constant negative press won't continue to hurt it.

Newsflash: bitcoin price has been crashing consistently over the past half year, with no immediate end in sight.  Want to know one of the biggest motivators of the crash is? Negative press.  Scams, scams, and more scams. 

If you're fine with the price continually crashing with more bad news, then I guess silk road would be something you'd want to root on.

And actually thinking that this new version is somehow more secure and won't eventually be taken down by the government is laughable.  Just ask Kim Dot Com how that 'untouchable' mentality works out.


Title: Re: Silk Road is Back
Post by: beetcoin on January 14, 2015, 05:35:51 AM
i really doubt bitcoin could revitalize a bull-run. it's not big enough, and if your cryptocurrency needs illegal sales of drugs to not crash, then there's a big problem.


Title: Re: Silk Road is Back
Post by: freedomno1 on January 14, 2015, 05:40:16 AM
Well its 1:1 Now
SR crash price rises SR 2 Rises price stalls then has a downtrend
SR3 will be sideways perhaps haha hope it increases the price
With I2P Two choices
Take the risk now and assume that the government has not broken the cryptography and or found a loophole
OR
Take the risk later and watch if the people who took the risk now get caught + additional time might allow for more loopholes to work
Kind of a tricky choice


Title: Re: Silk road is Back
Post by: seriouscoin on January 14, 2015, 06:41:04 AM
I mean, this would certainly add more popularity back into the bitcoin market but I still don't condone this activity.

Money does not care or dictate any tx. Thats what makes money.... money.

This is the KEY why bitcoin isnt JUST a payment network.


Title: Re: Silk Road is Back
Post by: therealjonnyd on January 14, 2015, 07:04:05 AM
These markets are one of the main reasons that bitcoin hasn't failed.


Title: Re: Silk Road is Back
Post by: SargeR33 on January 14, 2015, 07:19:46 AM
SR will be the medic to bitcoin.


Title: Re: Silk Road is Back
Post by: BaselessBitcoin on January 14, 2015, 11:03:38 AM
SR will be the medic to bitcoin.

I disagree, Silk Road needs BTC, but BTC does not need Silk Road.


Title: Re: Silk Road is Back
Post by: Parazyd on January 14, 2015, 11:07:05 AM
i2p is pretty good as far as I've read about it. But for me "Java" and "secure" don't go into the same sentence...


Title: Re: Silk Road is Back
Post by: bitkilo on January 14, 2015, 11:13:01 AM
SR will be the medic to bitcoin.

I disagree, Silk Road needs BTC, but BTC does not need Silk Road.
Maybe it doesn't need BTC, the artical said the new silkroad reloaded is open to other crypto currency, could be darkcoin or,
BC or LTC or PPC or NXT, who knows after today.


Title: Re: Silk Road is Back
Post by: BaselessBitcoin on January 14, 2015, 11:17:56 AM
I see. I personally wouldn't mind if Silk Road took a dirt nap. I'd rather have Wall Street on board with us.


Title: Re: Silk Road is Back
Post by: bitkilo on January 14, 2015, 11:25:57 AM
Who wouldn't rather have wall street on board than Silk Road but in the middle of this crash beggers can't be choosy.
I think we'll take what we can get.


Title: Re: Silk Road is Back
Post by: Q7 on January 14, 2015, 11:30:30 AM
Not that I condone black market activities, but are we so desperate that the only way to move forward in bitcoin is to rely on silkroad. There are far better more legitimate means to start off.


Title: Re: Silk Road is Back
Post by: JJB on January 14, 2015, 11:45:48 AM
Does it really matter? Silk Road is just a name. This likely wont be the last one, either.

Not that I condone black market activities, but are we so desperate that the only way to move forward in bitcoin is to rely on silkroad. There are far better more legitimate means to start off.

Bitcoin doesn't just rely on black market activities, but this is certainly one of its uses. Personally I think people should be allowed to buy drugs if they want to.


Title: Re: Silk Road is Back
Post by: BaselessBitcoin on January 14, 2015, 12:06:49 PM
Who wouldn't rather have wall street on board than Silk Road but in the middle of this crash beggers can't be choosy.
I think we'll take what we can get.

We are all reasonable here. I hope if you handle btc/money you are. Begging=Desperation. Desperate people can't make reasonable decisions.


Title: Re: Silk Road is Back
Post by: UsernameBitcoin on January 14, 2015, 01:16:55 PM
SilkRoad isn't relevant anymore. No one trusts this name. Agora and evolution dominate the market and it looks like they are run much more professional. There was already another darknet market on i2p. I think i2p is too complicated and user unfriendly for the average guy. And since i2p isn't reviewed and checked as much as tor, I'd be skeptic whether it's really more secure.


Title: Re: Silk Road is Back
Post by: thriftshopping on January 16, 2015, 01:03:39 AM
SilkRoad isn't relevant anymore. No one trusts this name. Agora and evolution dominate the market and it looks like they are run much more professional. There was already another darknet market on i2p. I think i2p is too complicated and user unfriendly for the average guy. And since i2p isn't reviewed and checked as much as tor, I'd be skeptic whether it's really more secure.
i2p is theoretically more secure because everyone must run what is essentially a "full node" when connecting to i2p. The problem is that if it ever becomes very popular then people will likely create "light" versions which would allow people to connect without also relaying i2p traffic which would make it less secure.

I am not sure why so many people are so focused on the silk road name. Each time a new "version" of the site pops up, it is obviously not run by the same person as before


Title: Re: Silk Road is Back
Post by: BitCoinNutJob on January 16, 2015, 10:24:31 AM
So Silk Road is back online and claims more secure than it's TOR site.
http://bitcoinist.net/silk-road-reloaded-claims-more-secure-tor/
Could this be the start of another bull run for bitcoin or will another crypto coin take over as the new coin of choice for the new silk road?

good news my weed stocks are running very low right now  ;D just kidding..

i meant heroin.


Title: Re: Silk Road is Back
Post by: turvarya on January 16, 2015, 10:40:43 AM
I don't think public perception will really matter very much, everybody's heard it all before.
Whenever you mention bitcoin to someone that's not into it they always say something like "isn't that the money used to buy drugs with" even when Silk Road went down both times people were still saying this because they didn't know it went down.
I admit this is not good when people say that but it will go away in time when everybody learns the full use of BTC.
Have you lived in a cave for over a year?
The simple answer to "isn't that the money used to buy drugs with" is: "No, it is the internet currency Overstock, Dell and Microsoft are accepting"


Title: Re: Silk Road is Back
Post by: Madness on January 16, 2015, 11:21:35 AM
So Silk Road is back online and claims more secure than it's TOR site.
http://bitcoinist.net/silk-road-reloaded-claims-more-secure-tor/
Could this be the start of another bull run for bitcoin or will another crypto coin take over as the new coin of choice for the new silk road?


Why that website is the only one who is speaking about Silk road re-opening , once I open the link my browser gets closed  ???
Anyway , Is Silk road an open source website or something ? isn't the guy who made it on Court these days ?


Title: Re: Silk Road is Back
Post by: GrandmaJean on January 20, 2015, 04:19:45 AM
So Silk Road is back online and claims more secure than it's TOR site.
http://bitcoinist.net/silk-road-reloaded-claims-more-secure-tor/
Could this be the start of another bull run for bitcoin or will another crypto coin take over as the new coin of choice for the new silk road?


Why that website is the only one who is speaking about Silk road re-opening , once I open the link my browser gets closed  ???
Anyway , Is Silk road an open source website or something ? isn't the guy who made it on Court these days ?
You need to use I2P to access the new silk road. I personally would not even visit a brand new dark net site. There is also no real reason to patronize a site named silk road as it's operators have nothing to do with the original one


Title: Re: Silk Road is Back
Post by: philiveyjr on January 20, 2015, 04:23:15 AM
SR will be the medic to bitcoin.

I disagree, Silk Road needs BTC, but BTC does not need Silk Road.

Yeah..I agree..! but it might help BTC...specially at this time around!


Title: Re: Silk Road is Back
Post by: Blazr on January 20, 2015, 04:33:20 AM
Silk Road 3... third time lucky I guess.

Why did they opt for i2p? its way slower and has significantly less traffic than Tor. I suspect if this new Silk Road gets popular it will make up a very large portion of all traffic on i2p making it much more vulnerable. On top of that there was a very serious exploit found in i2p quite recently... I wouldn't like to be the owners of this new Silk Road.


Title: Re: Silk Road is Back
Post by: GrandmaJean on January 20, 2015, 04:38:45 AM
Silk Road 3... third time lucky I guess.

Why did they opt for i2p? its way slower and has significantly less traffic than Tor. I suspect if this new Silk Road gets popular it will make up a very large portion of all traffic on i2p making it much more vulnerable. On top of that there was a very serious exploit found in i2p quite recently... I wouldn't like to be the owners of this new Silk Road.
In theory this would make it easy to find the silk road servers, assuming they are not using some kind of distributive storage/servers.

It could be that silk road 3 is operating as a honeypot, similar to how silk road 2 was for several days after it's operator was arrested


Title: Re: Silk Road is Back
Post by: calme on January 20, 2015, 04:40:14 AM
Cool, new Silk Road! That will make BTC okay again


Title: Re: Silk Road is Back
Post by: bkora on January 20, 2015, 04:41:51 AM
i think police is also ready with more plans
illegal things don't last long, it will shutdown again sooner or later


Title: Re: Silk Road is Back
Post by: Blazr on January 20, 2015, 04:42:41 AM
In theory this would make it easy to find the silk road servers, assuming they are not using some kind of distributive storage/servers.

It could be that silk road 3 is operating as a honeypot, similar to how silk road 2 was for several days after it's operator was arrested

I think SR3 is just some clueless idiot trying to make money off of the silk road "brand". I doubt its a honeypot, at least not yet.


Title: Re: Silk Road is Back
Post by: Mrzinzin on January 20, 2015, 07:29:08 AM
Any hint if it is legit, or just someone trying to scamp people, like the fake silk roads in the time where silk road was alive?


Title: Re: Silk Road is Back
Post by: yeponlyone on January 20, 2015, 07:37:59 AM
Any hint if it is legit, or just someone trying to scamp people, like the fake silk roads in the time where silk road was alive?

I wouldn't visit one just in case. Wait for it to be reviewed.


Title: Re: Silk Road is Back
Post by: GrandmaJean on January 20, 2015, 07:42:39 AM
In theory this would make it easy to find the silk road servers, assuming they are not using some kind of distributive storage/servers.

It could be that silk road 3 is operating as a honeypot, similar to how silk road 2 was for several days after it's operator was arrested

I think SR3 is just some clueless idiot trying to make money off of the silk road "brand". I doubt its a honeypot, at least not yet.
I don't even understand why people give value to the Silk Road "brand". There are plenty of other dark market sites that have been around much longer, have built up their own reputation and the honeypot risk is really not there


Title: Re: Silk Road is Back
Post by: AGD on January 20, 2015, 08:23:43 AM
SR Reloaded is already infiltrated by the agency. I would call it a "Drug Dealers Honeypot" rather than a "Free Market".


Title: Re: Silk Road is Back
Post by: dopecoindude on January 20, 2015, 02:28:57 PM
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Title: Re: Silk Road is Back
Post by: kolloh on January 20, 2015, 03:05:41 PM
SR Reloaded is already infiltrated by the agency. I would call it a "Drug Dealers Honeypot" rather than a "Free Market".

Yeah I wouldn't doubt that it might be a honeypot. Interesting to see how this will affect BTC price though.


Title: Re: Silk Road is Back
Post by: DarthCoinX on January 20, 2015, 03:13:13 PM
Yeah guys I'm back! http://imgur.com/07VStSK


Title: Re: Silk Road is Back
Post by: dopecoindude on January 20, 2015, 03:16:27 PM
Yeah guys I'm back! http://imgur.com/07VStSK

Haha ^^ .

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Title: Re: Silk Road is Back
Post by: thresher on January 20, 2015, 03:21:25 PM
Anyone who would use anything branded silk road at this point is a fucking idiot.  There is no nice way to say it. 
I mean hell if the police were smart they would have made a site called silk road 3, and busted every damn seller on there.  After all they would have all the evidence. 

Why don't I just ask the police what drug dealers they are watching and go buy from them.


Title: Re: Silk Road is Back
Post by: princesocapuyo on January 20, 2015, 03:22:51 PM
i think police is also ready with more plans
illegal things don't last long, it will shutdown again sooner or later

Actually illegal things have been happening long before you were born and silk road had been doing this for a long while now... if I were to name a thing that is hard to take down it would be drug markets.


Title: Re: Silk road is Back
Post by: funkenstein on January 20, 2015, 08:20:02 PM
I mean, this would certainly add more popularity back into the bitcoin market but I still don't condone this activity.

Wait, people trying to transact between each other like responsible adults in which all involved parties are satisfied?  I can't condone that either.