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Title: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: RGBKey on January 14, 2015, 02:46:24 AM
Since there are so many "honest ponzis" out there right now, I just thought I'd throw this out there:

  • You are not gambling, you are sending money to someone and hoping you get more back. There are no odds, no fairness.
  • Anyone can put up a blockchain API with a little bit of code and then just shut it down when they think they have enough money.
  • There are actual gambling websites out there...why would you take the chance on this when you can have actual odds with provable fairness

Make smart decisions. A fool and his money are quickly parted.


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: Seketsuna on January 14, 2015, 02:53:22 AM
They also have the chance of making a profit of 800% rather than waiting days and hoping they will get paid


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: hasiramasenju on January 14, 2015, 03:08:03 AM
people should be know the risk not just tinking about the profit...


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: Aaron2dc71 on January 14, 2015, 03:32:02 AM
and if you invest in ponzi you are likely stealing coins from your fellow bitcoiners


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: BAGOBO on January 14, 2015, 06:00:25 AM
invest in Ponzi quite dangerous because of the risk of missing a very outweigh the profit


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: ndnh on January 14, 2015, 06:06:18 AM
Since there are so many "honest ponzis" out there right now, I just thought I'd throw this out there:

  • You are not gambling, you are sending money to someone and hoping you get more back. There are no odds, no fairness.
  • Anyone can put up a blockchain API with a little bit of code and then just shut it down when they think they have enough money.
  • There are actual gambling websites out there...why would you take the chance on this when you can have actual odds with provable fairness

Make smart decisions. A fool and his money are quickly parted.

I totally hate all these ponzis. But, honestly, here is what people think about ponzis:

Ponzis at an early stage has more odds of winning than in gambling.
Members insist on automatic payouts, because then, at a point, a ponzi with instant sent, will have max, 1.299BTC at a time. (If the next on line is a 1.3 for a 1 btc max.) This is less than the fee they will get if many people deposit.

People work on these observations, and of course many people lost money. I wonder why they are not screaming it here?


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: ndnh on January 14, 2015, 06:07:04 AM
and if you invest in ponzi you are likely stealing coins from your fellow bitcoiners

This is a better way of seeing it to discourage more participation.


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: JoelKatz on January 14, 2015, 06:15:04 AM
Ponzis at an early stage has more odds of winning than in gambling.
Everybody thinks this and tries to get in early. As a result, late comes really, really soon.

The second the volume drops, everybody knows it's not early anymore, and the volume drops to zero.


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: virtapayseller666 on January 14, 2015, 06:55:05 AM
investing in a gambling also not a gud idea


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: Tschai on January 14, 2015, 07:08:02 AM
....

People work on these observations, and of course many people lost money. I wonder why they are not screaming it here?
Because they know they've been a fucktard and don't want to admit it?
 ::)


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: HeroCat on January 14, 2015, 08:49:06 AM
Better invest in BTC gambling, then you can win, if you know how to play  ;)


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: Snail2 on January 14, 2015, 08:50:26 AM
Even the most honest ponzi can go bust if there are not enough investors/gamblers... and most ponzi schemes are quite far from being honest.


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: suman66 on January 14, 2015, 09:27:15 AM
Better invest in BTC gambling, then you can win, if you know how to play  ;)

right if you know the perfect method you can play if not know keep away from sites or learn it


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: Surger on January 14, 2015, 09:33:10 AM
Better invest in BTC gambling, then you can win, if you know how to play  ;)

i agree %100
ponzi is kind of game which has high risk
if u want earn with ponzi should be select correct system and must be join early


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: zetaray on January 14, 2015, 09:36:14 AM
Newbies have to loose money to ponzi scams at least once before they learn. Sending money to ponzis is like giving money to strangers. Gambling at a dice site has better odds.


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: bitbaby on January 14, 2015, 09:46:13 AM
Thank you for trying to educate people OP but it has been done manier times before but people blinded by their greed don't ever learn and then they come crying after the Ponzi runs away with their money.


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: inigthz on January 14, 2015, 10:02:35 AM
Since there are so many "honest ponzis" out there right now, I just thought I'd throw this out there:

  • You are not gambling, you are sending money to someone and hoping you get more back. There are no odds, no fairness.
  • Anyone can put up a blockchain API with a little bit of code and then just shut it down when they think they have enough money.
  • There are actual gambling websites out there...why would you take the chance on this when you can have actual odds with provable fairness

Make smart decisions. A fool and his money are quickly parted.

Thread of the day !!  ;D

Boycott (Bitcoin) ponzi from Bitcointalk. *Ups

 8)


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: johny08 on January 14, 2015, 11:17:16 AM
Not good idea at all.  :o

Today we learned a lesson  ::)

Yeah, little bit gambling Is more fun.


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: baristor on January 14, 2015, 11:54:32 AM
actually it is a good idea to invest and get out within first 2 days.


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: SuperDay on January 14, 2015, 11:59:45 AM
I am agree with the OP becaue ponzi is contain higher risk for our coins.


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: Aristoff on January 14, 2015, 01:04:25 PM

I think Investing in any HYIP or Ponzi site is obviously a bad idea ... in the beginning from birth HYIP you can still get your money back, a little later - always lose ... always a waste of money ... just to win in casinos - much more likely


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: fox19891989 on January 14, 2015, 01:10:37 PM
Ponzis at an early stage has more odds of winning than in gambling.
Everybody thinks this and tries to get in early. As a result, late comes really, really soon.

The second the volume drops, everybody knows it's not early anymore, and the volume drops to zero.


People are greedy, and they lose IQ when the money is increasing, that's why they invest Ponzi/HYIP sites, and most of them won't get paid in the end, the best way it don't touch that, investors won't win with the site owners.


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: RGBKey on January 14, 2015, 10:33:49 PM
actually it is a good idea to invest and get out within first 2 days.

Yeah, no. What rules are there saying whoever is running it just doesn't take your money after the first 12 hours?


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: Considerable Coin on January 14, 2015, 10:52:47 PM
when you see "investing" in /gambling it's actually gambling. With these copies/scams calling themselves "ponzis" you don't actually know the risk level. It's wise not to put in any large amount of BTC . Ignore the "only put in as much as you can lose" because really you don't want to lose any of it to a scammer. I think the general idea that lures people is if they find a scheme that they can get in early on, that works, they could be one of the very few lucky ones to benefit. This being said, i actually think good will come out of all these scams and " ponzi" schemes. People could combine some of the successful ideas and actually create GAMES rather than SCAMS .


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: magicmexican on January 15, 2015, 12:41:08 AM
The ironic thing here is that people who 'invest' in ponzies are probably think that its a lot more safer way to make money than rolling a dice/betting on sports etc.


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: myohmy81 on January 15, 2015, 01:03:28 AM
In the end , they will run


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: RGBKey on January 15, 2015, 03:00:34 AM
The ironic thing here is that people who 'invest' in ponzies are probably think that its a lot more safer way to make money than rolling a dice/betting on sports etc.

Sad but probable.


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: virtapayseller666 on January 15, 2015, 03:56:13 AM
In the end , they will run

when they got good deposit they will run because their system is manual not automatic


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: hendracaw on January 15, 2015, 04:03:46 AM
Since there are so many "honest ponzis" out there right now, I just thought I'd throw this out there:

  • You are not gambling, you are sending money to someone and hoping you get more back. There are no odds, no fairness.
  • Anyone can put up a blockchain API with a little bit of code and then just shut it down when they think they have enough money.
  • There are actual gambling websites out there...why would you take the chance on this when you can have actual odds with provable fairness

Make smart decisions. A fool and his money are quickly parted.

I totally hate all these ponzis. But, honestly, here is what people think about ponzis:

Ponzis at an early stage has more odds of winning than in gambling.
Members insist on automatic payouts, because then, at a point, a ponzi with instant sent, will have max, 1.299BTC at a time. (If the next on line is a 1.3 for a 1 btc max.) This is less than the fee they will get if many people deposit.

People work on these observations, and of course many people lost money. I wonder why they are not screaming it here?
i agree with his statment.
"Ponzis at an early stage has more odds of winning than in gambling."


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: gugel8989 on January 15, 2015, 04:52:01 AM
if u KNOW how to invest in ponzis u will got great profit.
learn from our mistakes. and its works.
for me  ;D


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: inigthz on January 15, 2015, 05:33:21 AM
if u KNOW how to invest in ponzis u will got great profit.
learn from our mistakes. and its works.
for me  ;D

So legit.


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: gugel8989 on January 15, 2015, 05:52:11 AM
Since there are so many "honest ponzis" out there right now, I just thought I'd throw this out there:

  • You are not gambling, you are sending money to someone and hoping you get more back. There are no odds, no fairness.
  • Anyone can put up a blockchain API with a little bit of code and then just shut it down when they think they have enough money.
  • There are actual gambling websites out there...why would you take the chance on this when you can have actual odds with provable fairness

Make smart decisions. A fool and his money are quickly parted.

I totally hate all these ponzis. But, honestly, here is what people think about ponzis:

Ponzis at an early stage has more odds of winning than in gambling.
Members insist on automatic payouts, because then, at a point, a ponzi with instant sent, will have max, 1.299BTC at a time. (If the next on line is a 1.3 for a 1 btc max.) This is less than the fee they will get if many people deposit.

People work on these observations, and of course many people lost money. I wonder why they are not screaming it here?
i agree with his statment.
"Ponzis at an early stage has more odds of winning than in gambling."

^This. So damn right.
Ponzis actually will not survive long. so find Ponzis who launching today and go invest and withdrawal.

if u KNOW how to invest in ponzis u will got great profit.
learn from our mistakes. and its works.
for me  ;D

So legit.

ofcourse ;D


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: NUFCrichard on January 15, 2015, 07:42:51 AM
but people understand that there isn't enough money to go around and that someone (probably you by the time you get to hear about it) will get screwed over?
You are essentially giving money to the owner and his friends, and hoping enough other idiots come after you so that you don't lose everything...


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: thompete on January 15, 2015, 08:17:03 AM
Since there are so many "honest ponzis" out there right now, I just thought I'd throw this out there:

  • You are not gambling, you are sending money to someone and hoping you get more back. There are no odds, no fairness.
  • Anyone can put up a blockchain API with a little bit of code and then just shut it down when they think they have enough money.
  • There are actual gambling websites out there...why would you take the chance on this when you can have actual odds with provable fairness

Make smart decisions. A fool and his money are quickly parted.


As Far as I see, some of them are not even putting up a Blockchain API but doing it manually. Then closing once they have a bigger deposit.


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: kinnu on January 15, 2015, 08:19:14 AM
You are correct gambling sites are better than these ponzi sites.


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: hopenotlate on January 15, 2015, 09:37:16 AM
Ponzi's announcements shouldn't be in gambling section and not even in any other section.
Bitcointalk admins should create a Ponzi section with a clear disclaimer on the top stating something like: "...blablabla...Ponzi creators final purpose is to enrich themselves  with coins now owned by some of you....blablable...be warned they want to f**k you without vaseline .....they will likely laugh at you once they manage it...."



Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: floggitexx on January 15, 2015, 09:38:10 AM
Bitcointalk admins should create a Ponzi section with a clear disclaimer on the top stating something like: "...blablabla...Ponzi creators final purpose is to enrich themselves  with coins now owned by some of you....blablable...be warned they want to f**k you without vaseline ....."


Maybe Bitcointalk admins are running these Ponzis with alt accounts?


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: hopenotlate on January 15, 2015, 10:21:47 AM
Bitcointalk admins should create a Ponzi section with a clear disclaimer on the top stating something like: "...blablabla...Ponzi creators final purpose is to enrich themselves  with coins now owned by some of you....blablable...be warned they want to f**k you without vaseline ....."


Maybe Bitcointalk admins are running these Ponzis with alt accounts?

Unlikely...but not impossible lol


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: sandykho47 on January 15, 2015, 10:44:01 AM
Ponzi only profitable at early stage, while gambling can be profitable depends on your skill & luck
Ponzi is bad idea since we don't know when ponzi will collapse :(

Maybe ponzi have to give faucet just like gambling site ;D


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: adog on January 15, 2015, 11:38:46 AM
 Ponzi is a fraudulent investment by the definition. Your luck being the only opportunity to gain profit will end sooner or later. :-\


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: Kakmakr on January 15, 2015, 12:45:32 PM
Hey, if you get in at the start and you withdraw early; you will not get pregnant ^LoL^


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: febriyana on January 15, 2015, 12:53:50 PM
Gambling can give you 200% profit, but you can lose it in 1 day...

or you can choose ponzi,
they can give you 200% profit
but pending until 4 days
with worries your money...
100% scam and 100% not fair
 :D


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: waterpile on January 15, 2015, 01:19:03 PM
Hey, if you get in at the start and you withdraw early; you will not get pregnant ^LoL^

get in early seriously? what if the owner decides to ran away early? then you got pregnant? whats the relation of pregnancy here?


Title: Re: "Investing" in ponzis is not a good idea.
Post by: suman66 on January 15, 2015, 04:31:54 PM
Gambling can give you 200% profit, but you can lose it in 1 day...

or you can choose ponzi,
they can give you 200% profit
but pending until 4 days
with worries your money...
100% scam and 100% not fair
 :D

right
from gambling you will win but

loss all money in a day