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Title: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: Sumo on January 14, 2015, 04:44:59 AM
It looks like that is what is happening. We were all brought here on a dream and an ideal. BTC has rested on the laurels for too long and only the truly innovative will rise. Big money could come into this crypto space if btc gets knocked out and make a coin that would be a wet dream to all of us. There is so much bs and rigging going on in this space right now. We would all embrace a truly innovative crypto that the mainstream would support. Some of you big holders maybe saddened by what is going on but I am excited. Crypto isn't going anywhere. Its just changing and evolving. I am excited to see what the future holds.


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: pandher on January 14, 2015, 04:51:38 AM
I agree, the rise of alts


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: tokeweed on January 14, 2015, 05:09:55 AM
https://i.imgur.com/kT3Nd18.jpg


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: UberNifty on January 14, 2015, 05:42:03 AM
I can see it now... "Crypto 2.0: Rise Of The Alts"


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: billotronic on January 14, 2015, 05:57:17 AM
1. Goonies never say die

2. If you think the BS with bitcoin is bad, have you not been watching what the fractional BS is doing to alts? The further BTC slips, the more sharks looking for easy pickings will  be eye balling your daughter.


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: iGotSpots on January 14, 2015, 06:09:53 AM
1. Goonies never say die

2. If you think the BS with bitcoin is bad, have you not been watching what the fractional BS is doing to alts? The further BTC slips, the more sharks looking for easy pickings will  be eye balling your daughter.

Whales are the true apex predator. They eat sharks


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: djm34 on January 14, 2015, 11:20:44 AM
It looks like that is what is happening. We were all brought here on a dream and an ideal.
Which is ? Make big money ?  ;D That's an ideal. As a newbie to that forum or anybody else who join in 2014
the only ideal who brought you here is greed, the btc at 1000$ and the myth of magical internet money...  ;D

And that ideal probably destroyed crypto and altcoin altogether because 2014 was just the year of every scams...





Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: yatsey87 on January 14, 2015, 12:13:37 PM
It looks like that is what is happening. We were all brought here on a dream and an ideal. BTC has rested on the laurels for too long and only the truly innovative will rise. Big money could come into this crypto space if btc gets knocked out and make a coin that would be a wet dream to all of us. There is so much bs and rigging going on in this space right now.

Why is the current dip relevant? We've been through these before several times and btc always bounces back.

We would all embrace a truly innovative crypto that the mainstream would support. Some of you big holders maybe saddened by what is going on but I am excited. Crypto isn't going anywhere. Its just changing and evolving. I am excited to see what the future holds.

And which innovative crypto is this exactly? Bitcoin still has the infrastructure in place and merchant adoption where all other cryptos fail.


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: Shuai on January 14, 2015, 12:14:09 PM
BitUSD and nuBits shall rise from the ashes. The only cryptocurrencies that didn't crash. If we want a future where crypto is actually used by people for trade instead of just wild speculation, we need stable tokens.


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: Spamela Anderson on January 14, 2015, 12:16:35 PM
There is so much bs and rigging going on in this space right now.

Like this hasn't been happening with alt coins. In fact, that's pretty much how most of these scam coins work isnt it? Give btc time and I'm sure it will still continue to soar far above all alts.


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: pooya87 on January 14, 2015, 12:22:57 PM
there is one thing, or better said one major flaw in what you said, and that is Altcoins are dead already. i can't find any that is not a pump and dump or losing price over time.
if you know any i would be more than happy to look into it


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: vince232 on January 14, 2015, 12:46:32 PM
there is one thing, or better said one major flaw in what you said, and that is Altcoins are dead already. i can't find any that is not a pump and dump or losing price over time.
if you know any i would be more than happy to look into it

how about sdc,vior,uro,mon,nxt,counter


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: cipherking on January 14, 2015, 01:19:56 PM
I've heard lots of good things about Feathercoin over the years. Boy, it sure looks like a bargain. Something that lasts that long must be special!


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: BitcoiNaked on January 14, 2015, 01:31:38 PM
The rise of crypto 2.0 and not regular 1.0 bitcoin copy alts. i suggest anyone leave these worthless 1.0 scam alts and get into 2.0 startups where the real innovation is happening.


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: Aemon on January 14, 2015, 01:32:32 PM
If BTC is truly dead, then the real question is, what will be the new coin of choice?


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: Snail2 on January 14, 2015, 01:55:25 PM
It looks like that is what is happening. We were all brought here on a dream and an ideal.

As I've seen here in reality that ideal is greed and those dreams are about getting rich quick :)

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BTC has rested on the laurels for too long and only the truly innovative will rise. Big money could come into this crypto space if btc gets knocked out and make a coin that would be a wet dream to all of us. There is so much bs and rigging going on in this space right now. We would all embrace a truly innovative crypto that the mainstream would support. Some of you big holders maybe saddened by what is going on but I am excited. Crypto isn't going anywhere. Its just changing and evolving. I am excited to see what the future holds.

What you said is mostly right but don't forget that most rigging and BS are going on here in the altcoin space.
BTW there are plenty of truly innovative Gen2 cryptos are out in the wild. Pick one.


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: Victor Beckham on January 14, 2015, 01:59:20 PM
It looks like that is what is happening. We were all brought here on a dream and an ideal. BTC has rested on the laurels for too long and only the truly innovative will rise. Big money could come into this crypto space if btc gets knocked out and make a coin that would be a wet dream to all of us. There is so much bs and rigging going on in this space right now. We would all embrace a truly innovative crypto that the mainstream would support. Some of you big holders maybe saddened by what is going on but I am excited. Crypto isn't going anywhere. Its just changing and evolving. I am excited to see what the future holds.

People will start direct trading alt coins. Exchanges like www.100bit.co.in will rise.


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: fcuk on January 14, 2015, 02:05:44 PM
If BTC is truly dead, then the real question is, what will be the new coin of choice?

Bitcoin isn't dead. Don't listen to these alt coin trolls. If it was dead then why are people still putting millions into it in various ways. How much is going into any of these crappy alts other than the satoshis newbs and the devs put in?


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: bram_vnl on January 14, 2015, 02:34:14 PM
i think it is guldencoin, but i don't no


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: virtualdn on January 14, 2015, 05:25:25 PM
lol..how can a coin that worths much more than any alt coin out there be dead? bitcoin won't be dead even at 10 cents. lol. funny thing.


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: Equate on January 14, 2015, 05:37:49 PM
Rather than saying Bitcoin is dead, you should pray that Bitcoin doesn't die otherwise Bitcoin sinking ship will take down every altcoin with itself.


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: virtualdn on January 14, 2015, 05:39:26 PM
Rather than saying Bitcoin is dead, you should pray that Bitcoin doesn't die otherwise Bitcoin sinking ship will take down every altcoin with itself.

finally a smart comment :D


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: pooya87 on January 14, 2015, 06:33:16 PM
there is one thing, or better said one major flaw in what you said, and that is Altcoins are dead already. i can't find any that is not a pump and dump or losing price over time.
if you know any i would be more than happy to look into it

how about sdc,vior,uro,mon,nxt,counter
i've known a little about NXT, but not others. i will look into them. thanks for introducing


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: pereira4 on January 14, 2015, 06:34:42 PM
All Altcoins are Shit except MAID, XMR and maybe NXT.


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: CanadaBits on January 14, 2015, 08:57:01 PM
What would alt coins be without the bitcoin???


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: fat buddah on January 14, 2015, 09:14:09 PM
boycott bitcoin:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=921887.0

altcoins GO!

We need a black swan event to topple bitcoin ASAP!
Pump the Quark to the sky!


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: Labteck on January 14, 2015, 09:21:54 PM
common guys, lets face it..BTC is dying.. all the btc mone going to alts.

Bitcoin crypto.token is to expensive there are better token cheaper

Nubits/Nushares.


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: dataMaestro on January 14, 2015, 10:26:16 PM
It looks like that is what is happening. We were all brought here on a dream and an ideal. BTC has rested on the laurels for too long and only the truly innovative will rise. Big money could come into this crypto space if btc gets knocked out and make a coin that would be a wet dream to all of us. There is so much bs and rigging going on in this space right now. We would all embrace a truly innovative crypto that the mainstream would support. Some of you big holders maybe saddened by what is going on but I am excited. Crypto isn't going anywhere. Its just changing and evolving. I am excited to see what the future holds.


I think the Nectar guys have a decent shot, among others like Ethereum:
http://coinblab.com/forums/topic/334/nectar-coin-try-our-demo-skype-slack-intrade-alerts


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: Brontide on January 14, 2015, 10:29:46 PM
It's a pitty that Bitcoin ended like this it had so much potential but now theres a bigger gap in the market for alt coins.


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: dataMaestro on January 14, 2015, 10:32:58 PM
Rather than saying Bitcoin is dead, you should pray that Bitcoin doesn't die otherwise Bitcoin sinking ship will take down every altcoin with itself.


I think the threat is actually that bitcoin, with all of its accumulated baggage over the past year (deserved - lack of innovation) and undeserved (third-party hacks and security failures, failed exchanges, etc.), risks taking down altcoins if it continues to painfully limp as it has. Better for alts if it either thrives or just dies.


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: dataMaestro on January 14, 2015, 10:34:32 PM
What would alt coins be without the bitcoin???

liberated.


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: dataMaestro on January 14, 2015, 10:37:44 PM
All Altcoins are Shit except MAID, XMR and maybe NXT.

and counterparty, and ethereum and who knows what else in 2015.

In the meantime, little or no implemented innovation in bitcoin over the past year. Arguably, its bitcoin that's holding back the progress of crypto, at least as much as alt scammers have.


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: CleansingRains on January 14, 2015, 10:44:59 PM
Well no alt coin is near 100 dollars yet? so how come you claim bitcoin has died even though its worth god knows how much if you combined most alt coins together?


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: RJX on January 14, 2015, 11:05:11 PM

In a nutshell, this picture does say it all.


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: insidertradingeverywhere on January 15, 2015, 01:31:40 AM

bitcoin is the same

i vote for quark-pump too.

Bitcoin is too fat to get out of the bed. Old stuff. An altcoin with 10 minutes transactions-confirms and without fast difficulty retarget would be laughed at around here but strangely bitcoin is that laughable alt.

Bitcoin as it is today, relaunched on the forum wouldn't find a buyer. People wouldn't even mine it, it could not attract a community and it would not be listed on exchange. Bitcoin is pretty much done after this selloff.

Look at it! It can't even hold its value despite all the efforts that went into it! It has bad breath and spittle at the chin. Bitcoin is rusty. Better get rid of it while you can still find fools to sell to.


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: chesthing on January 15, 2015, 03:44:41 AM
And if btc dies what are we supposed to use to trade with all these 2.0 alt shitcoins? simple question.
You guys have no appreciation for the infrastructure level btc is currently at.


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: Troonetpt on January 15, 2015, 03:50:33 AM
I don't think BTC is dead.


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: altcoin hitler on January 15, 2015, 03:59:58 AM
I don't think BTC is dead.

the market doesn't care what you think 


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: altcoin hitler on January 15, 2015, 04:04:23 AM
And if btc dies what are we supposed to use to trade with all these 2.0 alt shitcoins? simple question.
You guys have no appreciation for the infrastructure level btc is currently at.

We are greatful for the infrastructure pioneerwork bitcoin did. Thanks to that better altcoins will be much faster integrated.

Forget "2.0" - that's just a marketing-pitch.

We just wait for new basecurrency ... so you will know later what we will trade the coins against. It will not be Bitcoin.


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: bitcoin carpenter on January 15, 2015, 04:05:19 AM
I don't think BTC is dead.

bitcoin isnt dead... dont listen to people who say that it is, they just need it to drop lower to make coin of there shorts.
look at bitfinex price is above all the other exchanges atm.

either way though im using viorcoin, its backed by phone minutes similar to the early mpesa, but i still need bitcoins to buy them.


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: altcoin hitler on January 15, 2015, 04:06:52 AM
I don't think BTC is dead.

bitcoin isnt dead... dont listen to people who say that it is, they just need it to drop lower to make coin of there shorts.
look at bitfinex price is above all the other exchanges atm.

either way though im using viorcoin, its backed by phone minutes similar to the early mpesa, but i still need bitcoins to buy them.

Things are going to change around here very soon.


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: chesthing on January 15, 2015, 04:45:20 AM
And if btc dies what are we supposed to use to trade with all these 2.0 alt shitcoins? simple question.
You guys have no appreciation for the infrastructure level btc is currently at.

We are greatful for the infrastructure pioneerwork bitcoin did. Thanks to that better altcoins will be much faster integrated.

Forget "2.0" - that's just a marketing-pitch.

We just wait for new basecurrency ... so you will know later what we will trade the coins against. It will not be Bitcoin.
So just wait for Coinbase and all the btc exchanges to just switch over to some agreed upon altcoin - are you nuts? btc dies it's over, for a long time anyway.


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: altcoin hitler on January 15, 2015, 05:04:36 AM
And if btc dies what are we supposed to use to trade with all these 2.0 alt shitcoins? simple question.
You guys have no appreciation for the infrastructure level btc is currently at.

We are greatful for the infrastructure pioneerwork bitcoin did. Thanks to that better altcoins will be much faster integrated.

Forget "2.0" - that's just a marketing-pitch.

We just wait for new basecurrency ... so you will know later what we will trade the coins against. It will not be Bitcoin.
So just wait for Coinbase and all the btc exchanges to just switch over to some agreed upon altcoin - are you nuts? btc dies it's over, for a long time anyway.

nope - bitcoin is a socialist shitcoin with heavy gravity due to inflation. Fat chickens don't fly. All it takes is time. Black swans are some beautiful shit, i can tell you that.

Bitcoin is much less important than the brainwash around here tries to make you think.  Nobody in their right mind buys bitcoin right now.

Coinbase and others integrate whatever makes them money.


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: chesthing on January 15, 2015, 05:33:09 AM
And if btc dies what are we supposed to use to trade with all these 2.0 alt shitcoins? simple question.
You guys have no appreciation for the infrastructure level btc is currently at.

We are greatful for the infrastructure pioneerwork bitcoin did. Thanks to that better altcoins will be much faster integrated.

Forget "2.0" - that's just a marketing-pitch.

We just wait for new basecurrency ... so you will know later what we will trade the coins against. It will not be Bitcoin.
So just wait for Coinbase and all the btc exchanges to just switch over to some agreed upon altcoin - are you nuts? btc dies it's over, for a long time anyway.

nope - bitcoin is a socialist shitcoin with heavy gravity due to inflation. Fat chickens don't fly. All it takes is time. Black swans are some beautiful shit, i can tell you that.

Bitcoin is much less important than the brainwash around here tries to make you think.  Nobody in their right mind buys bitcoin right now.

Coinbase and others integrate whatever makes them money.

I think you are clueless.


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: digitalindustry on January 15, 2015, 05:43:31 AM
Rather than saying Bitcoin is dead, you should pray that Bitcoin doesn't die otherwise Bitcoin sinking ship will take down every altcoin with itself.

i'll see this (which has amounted to a scam) at its first real hard fork, then you can come back and talk about it.

there are no real buyers it is worth maybe 2 or 3 dollars as a curiosity and on the hope that the hard fork is successful, but to what?

CpoW for sure probably a hybrid, if not it will just fade away, also and EQ will be added (inflation) just as #Quark did first* : D

* (SIF did first Quark refined)


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: Equal Lightfoot on January 15, 2015, 03:48:27 PM
Making threads with these kinds ofstatements is just damagining your reputation you look like a joke if you think that alt coins are going to be supreior to bitcoin if anything bitcoin would implement any good concepts that are found in alt coins rendering that alt coin as obsolete.


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: abstream on January 15, 2015, 04:25:32 PM
It looks like that is what is happening. We were all brought here on a dream and an ideal. BTC has rested on the laurels for too long and only the truly innovative will rise. Big money could come into this crypto space if btc gets knocked out and make a coin that would be a wet dream to all of us. There is so much bs and rigging going on in this space right now. We would all embrace a truly innovative crypto that the mainstream would support. Some of you big holders maybe saddened by what is going on but I am excited. Crypto isn't going anywhere. Its just changing and evolving. I am excited to see what the future holds.

The current price is irrelevant. Fundamentals are important - big players are onboard - Microsoft, PayPal, Venture Investments are x3 for the last year.. it is all set for wide adoption, not neglecting altcoins , just saying - bitcoin has already booked the table.


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: junglemouse on January 15, 2015, 11:54:56 PM
Getting into btc now seems like Im lucky. Low prices, same secure structure it had at $800 a piece when I was thinking about getting in before.

Cant complain  :)


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: vince232 on January 15, 2015, 11:59:04 PM
Getting into btc now seems like Im lucky. Low prices, same secure structure it had at $800 a piece when I was thinking about getting in before.

Cant complain  :)

haha i also just into btc unfortunately i bought majority of it on the $260 range. just make sure to buy legit coins with good future plans
and you will be good


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: Bit_Happy on January 16, 2015, 12:02:42 AM
It looks like that is what is happening. We were all brought here on a dream and an ideal. BTC has rested on the laurels for too long and only the truly innovative will rise. Big money could come into this crypto space if btc gets knocked out and make a coin that would be a wet dream to all of us. There is so much bs and rigging going on in this space right now. We would all embrace a truly innovative crypto that the mainstream would support. Some of you big holders maybe saddened by what is going on but I am excited. Crypto isn't going anywhere. Its just changing and evolving. I am excited to see what the future holds.

You make some good points, but the thread title is way off:
I like some alts, but it is delusional and/or trollish to say that Bitcoin is dead.
You cannot possibly be both well informed and serious...


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: pooya87 on January 16, 2015, 07:25:39 AM
I don't think BTC is dead.
i agree, it is not dead but took a pretty bad hit to the face


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: CryptKeeper on January 16, 2015, 07:30:30 AM
BitUSD and nuBits shall rise from the ashes. The only cryptocurrencies that didn't crash. If we want a future where crypto is actually used by people for trade instead of just wild speculation, we need stable tokens.

I think the USD-pegged crypto currencies are a valuable addition to the scene. I've bought some NuBits months ago and they are still worth 1 USD each! Time will show how long they can keep the price stable.


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: Misanthrope on January 16, 2015, 10:27:34 AM
I don't think BTC is dead.
i agree, it is not dead but took a pretty bad hit to the face

Bitcoin has character its been hit down before and got up and it will again a lot of people shold of just invested and quit complaining it was their chance to become somewhat rich depending how much they invested.


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: LFC4Life on January 16, 2015, 10:42:36 AM
"BTC dead" not a first time in last years. And arise again and again. And what about arising of altcoins? Don't think so...


Title: Re: BTC dead. The year of the Altcoin
Post by: WinkleSprinkle on January 16, 2015, 03:55:39 PM
still waiting for the new new new bitcoin lulz maybe an altcoin will surprise now