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Is it real or just some kind of a myth?

nope, only Atlanta

Atlanta is a myth the only place that really exists is Attenborough in UK.

It is real


http://www.atlantis.com/newsplash/graphics/atlantis-bahamas.jpg

No, it never exist.

i think its real
I guess the Atlantic was existing, but a long time ago

Atlantis is a tantalizing mystery to scientists, and the spritualis to browse back advanced human civilization, it is said, lost in the earth. To date, at least there are thousands of books have been written particulars of the legend.

In the beginning was Plato (427-347 BC), Greek philosopher, noted the story about the lost continent in two of his works, Timaeus and Critias. Both are the last works of Plato, written in 347 BC.

At work Critias mentions that Atlantis came from 9,600 BC or 11,600 years ago. Atlantis is described as a tropical region, temperatures are, in the form of large land is very beautiful, lush, many sources of water, flora, fauna, minerals and metallic minerals.

I would say it was a thought experiment by Socrates. Philosophers can more easily get their point across when they talk about a society in a bubble. Because when you add external influences things become more complicated.

So, he creates this mythical city under the water in middle of nowhere when talking about his ideas and thoughts.

People usually talk about some "island" when trying to simplify a societal thought that they are trying to get across. It makes things easier.

When you research it, you will find evidence of Atlantis all over the world. There are several ancient places in the world that have the city layout that Plato described as to what Atlantis looked like, including Bolivia in South America.

The Great Pyramid in Egypt is a standard pyramid form like many found around the world. In Bosnia, there are several pyramids that are in the basic shape of the Great Pyramid. The largest of these is much larger than the Great Pyramid. Pyramids are found underwater off the coast of Cuba. Pyramids are found off the coast of Japan. There are many places around the world where pyramids can be found.

The point is, there was once a worldwide trading civilization. The similarities of the pyramids and other archaeological finds show this. More than likely, the whole Atlantis worldwide trading operation perished in the Great Flood of Noah's day.

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EDIT: I should mention that the water levels around Western Europe coasts, especially the British Isles, were much lower in the distant past. There are many artifacts being found in areas offshore, around Great Britain. More than likely there was a great distribution center for Atlantis there in the distant past.

Probably there is a big sort of coverup in the scientific world about this. It would disrupt standard thinking too much if it was formally taught.

Look for the redheaded, copper mining giants in the United States Lake Michigan area from the ancient past.

http://frontiers-of-anthropology.blogspot.com/2012/02/lake-superior-mines-old-copper-culture.html ^^

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i mean atlantic its a real, but it has become a legend of thousands of years ago
and but the scientists are still figuring out the truth

The story of Atlantis was probably inspired by this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minoan_civilization
It has been destroyed by this event:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minoan_eruption

When you put all the evidence of prehistoric, ancient culture together, the result is that Atlantis was worldwide.

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Perhaps the question should be "did Atlantis really exist?".

Evidence of an ancient high-tech global empire?
https://i.imgur.com/lzSKNta.jpg

I found this, criteria for the search of Atlantis.

- Atlantis was located on an island.
- The Metropolis of Atlantis had a most distinct geomorphology composed of alternating concentric rings of land and water.
- On a low hill about 50 stades inland within the capital city itself, an inner citadel was erected to protect the original home of Cleito and Poseidon.
- Atlantis had hot and cold-water springs, with mineral deposits.
- Atlantis had red, white and black rocks.
- Atlantis was located outside the Pillars of Hercules.
- Atlantis was larger than Libya and Asia combined.
- Atlantis sheltered a wealthy population with literate, building, mining, metallurgical and navigational skills.
- The main region of Atlantis lay on a coastal plain, measuring 2.000 x 3.000 stades, surrounded by mountains which rose precipitously high above sea level.
- The coastal plain of Atlantis faced south and was sheltered from the northern winds.
- The Atlantes had created a checker-board pattern of canals for irrigation.
- Atlantis had mineral resources and a rich spectrum of wild and domesticated flora and fauna, including elephants.
- Atlantis had a high population density, enough to support a large army composed of 1.200.000 men, 10.000 chariots and 1.200 ships.
- Within the Straits of Gibraltar,
- Atlantis controlled Libya up to the borders of Egypt and Europe as far as Tyrrhenia (i.e. Italy).
- The religion of Atlantis involved the sacrifice of bulls.
- The kings of Atlantis assembled alternatively every 5th and 6th year to consult on matters of mutual interest and it is during those assemblies that they sacrificed bulls.
- The Metropolis of Atlantis was destroyed by a devastating physical destruction of unprecedented proportions. Earthquakes and floods of extraordinary violence were the precursors of Atlantis destruction.
- The Metropolis of Atlantis was swallowed by the sea and vanished under the water, following the occurrence of earthquakes and floods.
- At the time of its destruction, Atlantis was at war with Athens.
- Atlantis should have been reachable from Athens by sea.
- After the destruction of Atlantis, the passage of ships was blocked by shallows due to mud just below the surface, the remains of the sunken island.
- The Metropolis of Atlantis was destroyed 9000 years before the 6th century BC. No physically or geologically impossible processes were involved in the formation and destruction of the Metropolis of Atlantis, but could not have been responsible for the destruction of a landmass the size of a continent. Also, no physically or geologically impossible processes were involved in the formation of hot water springs and in the formation of red, white and black rocks.

I don't think any place on earth met these criteria.

Watch the movie american hustler, ATLANTIS CITY REBUILD! its a great movie, everyone should see it.

Look around the world today. You find great cities all over Earth that have buildings that are built similarly to those in New York. You also will find lots of diversity in construction.

Look at the ancient past in the archaeology that abounds. Pyramids are all over the place. the South American jungles are retracting somewhat, revealing that the whole SA is full of pyramids more than we had ever dared to believe, if we weren't seeing it now.

Atlantis is the name of the ancient worldwide civilization that existed 5,000 years ago before the Great Flood. It may not have been completely united. There may have been many different countries. But they were all one big trade organization, just like today.

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I agree; I believe Atlantis was either a reference to the Sea Peoples, as Schleicher mentioned, or intended as a cautionary tale, closer to Elwar's point.

But I would just like to point out that the idea of "Atlantis [being] larger than Libya and Asia combined" is a bit misleading: Asia here probably just refers to Asia Minor, Anatolia; on the other hand, Libya here likely corresponds to a good portion of the northwestern edge of Africa - so, Atlantis was perhaps meant to be about the size of Greenland, or a bit larger.

as people have already stated I believe its more of a philosophical idea than a reality

Some food for thought

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcPgIphDWGY&index=1&list=LL2SUmeAzu4qXRc5uQe4eZCw

There is now mounting evidence that there existed a lost civilisation/s that was were submerged after the last ice age.

that's really crazy though and the fact they could survive is bonkers.

Why is it bonkers? After all, we are the descendants of the people of Atlantis which was a worldwide trade organization. So why might it be bonkers that some lost civilization survived in some other way?

Actually, there is a reason why this "lost civilization" doesn't exist. But it is not what you think.

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if there was a civilization before it or self-destruct (with a few remaining survivants, in 100's ww) or it faced the "contact" and wasn't ready, ie didn't made peace with life it self. Maybe someone at the time tried to ban a plant?

p.s. we lack a tinfoilgearedsmiley : :D  ::)

No. The reason that there isn't any lost civilization anywhere, and the reason that there never was, is that Noah and his family were the only survivors of the Great Flood of his day - about 4,500 years ago.

All people are descendants of the sons of Noah, even though many of us have the mingling of inferior DNA in our bodies, DNA from the angels that God translated into our mega universe from their own mega universes, to have the pleasure of helping Him with making our universe be what He wanted it to be. My guess is that God didn't want this mingling, but that the angels did it on their own. Some of these angels have remained obstinate in their ways (evil angels, like Satan). Others have repented of their deeds and gone back to God in friendship. Some never turned from God at all. Long story.

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EDIT: Man's DNA is stronger and is overcoming the weaker angel(alien) DNA within us. This is because God made the angel DNA only sufficient for them to keep them in bodily form while they were working on our universe with God. Their DNA wasn't meant to be strong for this universe like ours is. Perhaps they were going to be sent "home" sometime, after people had spread out and populated the stars. Many of the angels wouldn't have been needed after that.

The populating of the stars by man will never take place because Satan, a very powerful angel, turned evil, and brought evil(imperfection) into this universe, and God doesn't go for even a smidgen of imperfection. So, He is going to destroy this universe and remake it for us, long before we would have the ability to populate even any of the near stars.

Perhaps it was antartica and some massive disaster hit earth.  There is no real evidence proving just how old humanity is.  Not too long ago relative to the existance of earth antartica would of had a very nice climate.

Weapons to move the plates of the earth thus annihilating humanity?  If Merica or Russia had this tech and one started to get invaded only a fool would beleive they wouldn't take the samson option.

Are we seriously talking about DNA and have sex with angles..................... I.. wow.

Yes. That's where some of the varieties and abilities of human beings come from. That's part of the reason why some people have more muscle, others are smarter, others are prettier, others are great thinkers, others are weaker in various ways. It comes from the introduction of alien (angel) DNA into our systems back at times both before and after the Flood. Personally, I don't think it is happening at present, but how could I really know?

Human DNA is made for Earth. Angel DNA in us is being gradually overcome, through the generations, by our human DNA bodily systems. But it still exerts some influence in most if not all of us.

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Hi OP, just a friendly tip regarding spelling / grammer :)

Does atlantis really exist

Do you think Atlantis exists?
Does he think Atlantis exists?
Do they think Atlantis exists?
Does Google think Atlantis exists?
Do I think Atlantis exists?

Hope this helps!

If it did exist, it was most likely a post-Flood island somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean, leaving only much smaller islands still sitting above the Atlantic Ocean’s surface.

truely a loner island.

When you look at the video "‘Magicians of the Gods’, snapshots of a work in progress (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcPgIphDWGY)," by Graham Hancock, you see that, even though the times of the events may not be correct, that there was a worldwide trade collaboration, far in the distant past. The thing known as "Atlantis" may or may not have been a separate island location. It may have been the capitol of the worldwide trade organization. It may have been a pattern, something like flags proclaim what nation or grouping we exist with. Only the "flag" called "Atlantis" may have been something far greater than a simple flag like we have. It may have been the symbol of the various relationships to the ancient worldwide trade organization, built in a shape, right in the ground of certain lands, built to resemble the capitol city of Atlantis.

The point is, whatever the timelines, whatever the archaeological finds, whatever ancient technology existed, there was a time in the distant past, for sure beyond 4,500 years ago, where worldwide civilization existed. And this civilization was far greater in some ways than ours is today, both scientifically (different kind of science), and maybe in population, as well.

The term "Atlantis" may certainly have its base in a single "place." But there is a good chance that the word "Atlantis" was a term devised to encompass the whole worldwide trade organization of the distant past.

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Is it a big step to suppose that this is what they're working on in area 52; that space aliens while probably out there are not the source of the technological inspiration?

I only ask because the grammatical errors in the title of this thread have a direct correlation the "IS UFO or ALIENS are real ?" thread and it's a simple case of putting a + b together for me.

It is not a big step, but...

Even though scientists and archaeologists seem to have figured out that there was this great big cataclysm around 12,000 years ago, there is still one problem. That problem is this. They use carbon dating as a basis for dating everything before about 2,500 BC. The reason that they do this is, we don't have any "pottery" and such that can be accurately dated from before about 4,500 years ago.

Sure, there are scientists who date pottery from earlier dates. But there are also those who have good reasons to suggest that dates beyond 4,500 years ago are unrealistic.

Carbon dating is based on the dates of that old "pottery" and such. It is extrapolated for earlier times. But, C-14 dating may be giving us the wrong dates for times before 4,500 years ago. Why? Because before 4,500 years ago is a time for which we don't have any "pottery" from, pottery that can be conclusively dated.

Why isn't there any pottery from before that time? Because the cataclysm that has been arbitrarily dated to a much earlier time, actually happened at that time - 4,500 years ago. Before the cataclysm happened, there was a difference in the way C-14 worked and the amounts of C-14 that were everywhere on earth.

The speed of light is not the constant that people have thought. Even now it varies a little bit all the time. All kinds of things were different back before 4,500 years ago, before the Great Flood of Noah's day. The Flood itself was probably caused by the gigantic comet (an ice comet) that is depicted in the video. It brought not only an excessive amount of water to the earth, but it also might have changed the way C-14 acted, so that we are getting a skewed picture of how old the Earth is from C-14 extrapolated dating.

These things that I am stating are not things that we know for certain. However, if you search for the idea that many of the physics constants that we trust in now, may not have been the same constants in the past, but may have been variables in the ancient past, you will find that we really don't know. Even core samples that are dated by methods other than C-14, may be wrong because of our inability in determining exactly what we are looking at age-wise.

In other words, much of the time-line of Earth history may really overlap so that all kinds of things in the ancient past might have happened much closer together, or even overlapped. The only way we could tell for sure is to build a time viewer and watch people as they are actually doing things back then. Graham Hancock suggests that there might be a big scientific coverup, because it would disrupt the way we understand physics, making us have to go back and start over in our thinking.

Beyond about 4,500 years ago, NOTHING is certain in the age of the earth or the timeline of what happened.

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Until Atlantis is actually discovered it is only a myth and a theory.

Thank you for your kind words TF.
Changed the tittle.

That's the point. WE and the people of the world are the descendants of Atlantis.

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Are the Easter Island stone heads just a "myth"?

Graham Hancock Breaks the Set on TED Censorship, Lost Civilizations & War on Consciousness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BrDF5WLyQs

His website is also a great reference for archaeology and other scientific news

http://www.grahamhancock.com/news/

There is no evidence show it really exist.

The point is that no one really knows for sure and this is why underwater exploration is so important.  There have already been evidence of submerged villages and some have been excavated just not on the scale of any legendary Atlantis.  But give it time, I would imagine explorers will continue to find amazing things in our oceans. 

Why do scientists want to cover something up that stares them right in the face? It's time to bring the knowledge about the antediluvian world to light, just like it is time to implement Bitcoin worldwide.

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What is Atlantis for you?

A theme park. and a good one at that.

A lost island that Plato described in his books, timaeus and critias.

Where in this all started the Myth of Atlantis.
If you look for Edgar Cayce, he speaks a lot about this long lost continent.
I do believe that there was Atlantis and it sunk due to a great cataclysm.

If so what continent did it break off of.

Its a whole continent of its own, myth says it broke off into 7 large islands and subsequently also were sunk due to the cataclysm.

(Blue colorization mine.)

I think every myth there is reason

You are so good. Life IS meaningless. However, it is often fun. So, let's not go off and commit suicide. Rather, let's seek enjoyment. Pleasure doesn't last, so let's not seek pleasure, because when it is gone, there is a big let-down. Rather, let's seek simple enjoyment, enjoyment in friends and family, and even forum antagonists.

 :D

There are legends in different civilizations about a city of riches being submerged.
I guess there could be some truth in these stories. But what would happen to these cities after so much time under water - that is a different story.

Some more insights about the lost civilisation

The Electric Sun (The Golden Ratio) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87zCgj-KMfU

The Electric Sun -Documentary "The Great Year" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irBJkcN7tfU

Of course it does. I'm posting this from an internet cafe in Atlantis, 9000 miles under the sea.

Does it matter? How would life be different if some city that doesn't exist today was prove to have existed hundreds of years ago?

Plato may indeed have devised his Atlantis as a fictional land https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantis. Yet, the fact that he received the information through Solon, through Egypt, shows that there was a whole lot more to the tradition than he wrote about.

Plato designed a fictional story out of real, but incomplete, information that he received. When you look at the info at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Location_hypotheses_of_Atlantis, you will find that a whole lot of people throughout the years have found all kinds of references to ancient, lost civilizations. Some of these are from more recent ancient historical times. Other are from time long erased from the memory of modern mankind, and are known about only from the remains of the architecture located around the world.

As has been listed above, Graham Hancock is among those who are bringing a lot of this info to light - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcPgIphDWGY&index=1&list=LL2SUmeAzu4qXRc5uQe4eZCw.

Among some of those others is Robert Klein, who has a web blog covering all kinds of information about all kinds of aspects of ancient civilizations, and all kinds of other things, as well - http://globalwarming-arclein.blogspot.ca/2012/09/cuban-subsea-pyramid-complex.html. At the right of his blog, a page or two down, is a Search box. Search on "Atlantis" for a list of 70 or 80 blog articles on Atlantis... stories about ancient archaeological finds from around the world.

A BIG part of the point is that, even though the ancient trading civilization that ruled the world in our prehistoric past may not have been called "Atlantis" around the world, it was INDEED there. Why don't modern scientists want to acknowledge this? Why do the universities constantly attempt to hide the info? Are they afraid that their whole system of ancient history which is a big joke will prove that they are stupid? Will this credibility loss cost them their place in the world of money?

Whatever the universities and their history books say, we are finding that our prehistoric past wasn't simply cavemen and low intelligence. We are seeing for a fact that our prehistory is one where people ruled the world in strength and power that rivals and even supersedes the power that we have today. Let's call it Atlantis, even though it has gone by many names in the ancient past. This way we will know what we are referring to - ancient powerful civilizations that once traversed, traded on, and ruled the whole world.

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EDIT: http://www.atlantisbolivia.org/atlantisboliviapart1.htm.

EDIT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPYbWOAofgU

Does Bitcoin work there? how is the mining going? i bet its nice and cool.
Anyway, what the hell this has to do with politics and society? lol

I wonder what planet/asteroid your sending your post from? You know the earth has only 7918 Miles in diameter :)

Nine thousand miles would be a thousand miles out in space the other side of Earth.   ;D

Good catch. Especially since the deepest trench (Marina Trench) is only 11 km deep.  ;D

The New Atlantis - Secret Mysteries of America's Beginnings

interesting video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMhkf5mAGgA

My understanding/estimate is that it probably existed but it is not what we have in mind about Atlantis and it is highly exaggerated on every aspect.

Yes, and Satoshi lives there  ;) ;) ;)

With all the bitcoins he has it could be true.

can you summarize the video to short story ?
The video is too long, ;D

Bitcoins are for trading for other things, just like fiat is. The problem with bitcoins is that it isn't easy to find the things you need to live that anyone will accept bitcoins for. First, you have to sell the merchant on bitcoins. After that he just might accept some for his wares.

Why did Bitcoin go to over $1,200 for a time? Wasn't it because people are looking for a way out of the limitations of fiat? Limitations of fiat aren't limitations to the bankers and governments who rule us. Fiat is only a limitation for living by us slaves

Bitcoin has gone back down, not because it didn't overcome the fiat limitations. It went back down because the people found that they couldn't use it to free themselves from governments and other controllers as easily as they had hoped.

If Satoshi is using Bitcoin in Atlantis, he really isn't using Bitcoin. Why not? Because Atlantis doesn't exist any longer. So, saying Satoshi is using Bitcoin in Atlantis is like saying that he isn't using Bitcoin.

The problem isn't Bitcoin. The problem is that we are all being enslaved by governments and world bankers, and the way to freedom may not be easy, using Bitcoin, or using anything else.

The way to freedom is to bypass their jurisdiction. The way to bypass their jurisdiction is to hold them accountable, as people, in their own courts for harm or damage they do to us, especially if we do no harm or damage to them.

Our living isn't harming anyone. The living that government people do against us is harming us. Time to set things right, and Bitcoin will help us do it. People are the descendants of the people of Atlantis. Governments and banks are the real descendants of Atlantis itself.

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The legend of uncountable riches.... was actually talking about bitcoins?  ;D

The Electric Sun -Documentary "Magical Egypt pt- 1-8 "

John Anthony West exploring the symbolism, and digging deeper into the knowledge and spirituality, of the ancient Egyptians. He explores many sites, and using his own research he shows us a side of the culture rarely exposed by modern science and Egyptology. Very enlightening and informative series. All 8 the parts into one video for easier viewing. They are listed as follows...

1. Magical Egypt - The Invisible Science
2. Magical Egypt - The Old Kingdom and Still Older Kingdom
3. Magical Egypt - Descent
4. Magical Egypt - The Temple in Man
5. Magical Egypt - Navigating the Afterlife
6. Magical Egypt - Legacy
7. Magical Egypt - Illumination
8. Magical Egypt - Cosmology

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K53IfhvgjyI

Put this together with sun gazing (Google it).

Without sunlight, plants grow up in bad health. Animals and people need some direct sunlight to remain healthy.

Maybe there is more to the sun than we think. It may be even more than simple energy. Maybe nutrition comes from the sun in patterns. These patterns are the pattern of life in our bodies. Maybe gaining the patterns through looking at the sun is better than getting them through eating plants and animals. Most of what there is to know about our universe and nature (like more than 99%) has not been found out yet.

Read about sun gazers who claim that they don't need much if any food after they have been doing their sun gazing for like a year or longer.

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