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Title: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: Elwar on January 15, 2015, 10:51:50 AM Holy shit, this is insane:
http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20150113/long-island-city/bitcoin-trader-accused-of-murder-was-tied-up-coerced-sell-stocks-da Quote KEW GARDENS — A Bitcoin trader charged with murder Tuesday beat his roommate to death with a hammer after being tied up and forced to liquidate his stocks, he told police. Quentin Capobianco, 18, told police that his lawyer roommate, Jesse Smith, 29, had tied him up with duct tape and zip ties in their upscale Astoria apartment on Monday, and ordered him at gunpoint to sell his assets. Capobianco told police at least one other person besides Smith was involved in the act. The Queens District Attorney's office believes Capobianco's account but still hopes to convict him of murder because he escaped his bindings and went to another room where he snatched a hammer and clobbered Smith, his captor and business partner. “I grabbed the hammer from the kitchen and hit Jessie three or four times until he was unconscious,” Capobianco told the police. Capobianco and Smith ran a currency exchange business centered around Bitcoin, an online currency, according to government records and Bitcoin sites. Sources told DNAinfo New York that Smith had argued with the young trader over damage done to the apartment in the Exo building at 26-28 21st St. about 3:30 p.m. Monday before tying him up. Capobianco's lawyer Ronald Bekoff said it was too early to comment further on his client’s case, although he confirmed that the 18-year-old had a black eye — though he couldn't say how he got it. Capobianco was charged with murder and criminal possession of a weapon at Queens Criminal Court in Kew Gardens. Judge Elisa Koenderman ordered him held on $250,000 bond. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=889040.0 Quote Up to 20btc available as of writing. Call Either Jesse at 516 974 4477 or Quentin at 212 390 8093 if you want to make a deal. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=400875;sa=showPosts Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: CrackedLogic on January 15, 2015, 10:58:13 AM Holy shit, this is insane: http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20150113/long-island-city/bitcoin-trader-accused-of-murder-was-tied-up-coerced-sell-stocks-da Quote KEW GARDENS — A Bitcoin trader charged with murder Tuesday beat his roommate to death with a hammer after being tied up and forced to liquidate his stocks, he told police. Quentin Capobianco, 18, told police that his lawyer roommate, Jesse Smith, 29, had tied him up with duct tape and zip ties in their upscale Astoria apartment on Monday, and ordered him at gunpoint to sell his assets. Capobianco told police at least one other person besides Smith was involved in the act. The Queens District Attorney's office believes Capobianco's account but still hopes to convict him of murder because he escaped his bindings and went to another room where he snatched a hammer and clobbered Smith, his captor and business partner. “I grabbed the hammer from the kitchen and hit Jessie three or four times until he was unconscious,” Capobianco told the police. Capobianco and Smith ran a currency exchange business centered around Bitcoin, an online currency, according to government records and Bitcoin sites. Sources told DNAinfo New York that Smith had argued with the young trader over damage done to the apartment in the Exo building at 26-28 21st St. about 3:30 p.m. Monday before tying him up. Capobianco's lawyer Ronald Bekoff said it was too early to comment further on his client’s case, although he confirmed that the 18-year-old had a black eye — though he couldn't say how he got it. Capobianco was charged with murder and criminal possession of a weapon at Queens Criminal Court in Kew Gardens. Judge Elisa Koenderman ordered him held on $250,000 bond. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=889040.0 Quote Up to 20btc available as of writing. Call Either Jesse at 516 974 4477 or Quentin at 212 390 8093 if you want to make a deal. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=400875;sa=showPosts Holy balls... This is why people think we're maniacs Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: Lethn on January 15, 2015, 10:58:56 AM Forgive me for my attitude since I'm used to this kind of thing now, but oh great, now everyone is going to think we're all murderous psychopaths beacuse of this asshole :(
Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: michaeladair on January 15, 2015, 10:59:48 AM He just wanted to HODL!
Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: Elwar on January 15, 2015, 11:35:02 AM free market. anger phase. blood on streets. It was likely in December. His posts ended on Dec. 10th. From the looks of it, his roomate (Jesse) was on him to give him money for some reason. The dude comes on here to try to get a loan (either to just pay the guy or use it to make money via localbitcoins), nobody gives him the loan so his roomate tells him to sell the 20 coins he does have. Dude says no so Jesse ties him up, puts a gun to his head and forces him to cash it out. Guy breaks free, bludgeons the guy with a hammer. Or it could be something else entirely that happened. Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: Lethn on January 15, 2015, 11:41:26 AM To be serious, this is precisely why we shouldn't be giving money to people who are being extremely aggressive about it they could easily be people like that guy, there are some genuine psychopaths out there.
Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: DarKSpectrE on January 15, 2015, 11:43:54 AM Sounds like most of the guys here would do the same in a heartbeat if they were given such an opportunity.
Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: Lethn on January 15, 2015, 11:44:09 AM Sounds like most of the guys here would do the same in a heartbeat if they were given such an opportunity. Fuck off. Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: floggitexx on January 15, 2015, 11:45:44 AM 1. $2750 rent per month for one-room apartment in Queens??
2. 29 year old "lawyer" living with an 18 y/o in a one-room apartment? Sound like a man-boy love thing. Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: thresher on January 15, 2015, 11:53:17 AM You guys aren't getting the big picture, self defense in the lovely state of ny, and they want to prosecute him for murder?
Hey you escaped your captors and did what you had to to survive, sorry we are putting you in jail for life. Next time why don't you just lay down and die. .....Welcome to the progressive new pussy world :'( Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: floggitexx on January 15, 2015, 11:54:36 AM You guys aren't getting the big picture, self defense in the lovely state of ny, and they want to prosecute him for murder? Doesn't sound like self-defense to me, not even in Redneckistan.Hey you escaped your captors and did what you had to to survive, sorry we are putting you in jail for life. Next time why don't you just lay down and die. .....Welcome to the progressive new pussy world :'( “I grabbed the hammer from the kitchen and hit Jessie three or four times until he was unconscious,” Dude #1 walks into kitchen, grabs hammer, goes back to the living room and beats dude #2 to death. It's not like dude #1 pulled the hammer out of his waistband to defend himself. Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: floggitexx on January 15, 2015, 12:05:55 PM "A police source told the Daily News Smith and Copobianco were fighting over drugs, specifically heroin."
So it was the Bitcoin or the heroin that made them go loco? Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: elasticband on January 15, 2015, 12:10:38 PM I wonder if the price drops had anything to do with why one of them wanted to liquidate their holdings? the pitfalls of multisig? If you want out you may have to tie your partner up and force him at gun point.....
Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: thresher on January 15, 2015, 12:11:38 PM You guys aren't getting the big picture, self defense in the lovely state of ny, and they want to prosecute him for murder? Doesn't sound like self-defense to me, not even in Redneckistan.Hey you escaped your captors and did what you had to to survive, sorry we are putting you in jail for life. Next time why don't you just lay down and die. .....Welcome to the progressive new pussy world :'( “I grabbed the hammer from the kitchen and hit Jessie three or four times until he was unconscious,” Dude #1 walks into kitchen, grabs hammer, goes back to the living room and beats dude #2 to death. It's not like dude #1 pulled the hammer out of his waistband to defend himself. What are you going to do when someone comes into your home, ties you up and attempts to kill you? When you escape do you think you are jsut going to waltz out of the apartment? Do you think the guy will not try to kill you again? DO you have any idea the fear, adrenaline, and emotions that are running through your head during an incident such as that? Besides all of that it is an apartment. Walking into the kitchen could have been the back room, and the guy could have been by the front door prevent his escape, or maybe he didn't want to get chased and shot in the back. Then again your probably a person would advise a woman to get raped as opposed to fighting back, because hey you could get hurt more. What if the woman being raped picked up a knife after the rapist was done and killed him. Would you charge her for murder and possession of a weapon? Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: coa032 on January 15, 2015, 12:12:07 PM This means despair phase, blood on the streets haha. Time to buy more cheap bitcoins. :D
Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: Wendigo on January 15, 2015, 12:12:12 PM He was trying to be an extra in the Wolf of Wall Street apparently... Jokes aside there must have been some serious reason for this to have happened.
Money is bad for your health figuratively and literally. Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: floggitexx on January 15, 2015, 12:15:40 PM Then again your probably a person would advise a woman to get raped as opposed to fighting back, because hey you could get hurt more. What if the woman being raped picked up a knife after the rapist was done and killed him. Would you charge her for murder and possession of a weapon? "Voluntary manslaughter is commonly defined as an intentional killing in which the offender had no prior intent to kill, such as a killing that occurs in the "heat of passion." The circumstances leading to the killing must be the kind that would cause a reasonable person to become emotionally or mentally disturbed; otherwise, the killing may be charged as a first-degree or second-degree murder. - See more at: http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/voluntary-manslaughter-overview.html#sthash.42ZjdBGr.dpuf " Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: Wendigo on January 15, 2015, 12:20:35 PM Okay then to not get killed and sued for murder instead everyone needs to go out and buy a taser gun or some pepper spray obviously.
Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: Elwar on January 15, 2015, 12:25:13 PM Ya, so it was a lot more than just about Bitcoin, drugs and a relationship were probably the main contributors.
As for the hammer, ya it was probably part of a bigger fight. The fact that it came to the guy holding him at gunpoint to sell his bitcoins sounds like they had a lot of fights over money. Though if they did drugs...I would think they would want to keep their money in bitcoins so they can buy from Silk Road. Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: jacktheking on January 15, 2015, 12:32:31 PM I cant believe someone acutally tied someone for Bitcoin. I cant believe someone murdered someone because of a conflict related to Bitcoin.
Also, he is protecting himself.. why is the court charging him so much? Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: Wendigo on January 15, 2015, 12:37:23 PM I cant believe someone acutally tied someone for Bitcoin. I cant believe someone murdered someone because of a conflict related to Bitcoin. Also, he is protecting himself.. why is the court charging him so much? The judge probably wants all of his bitcoin stash in charges 8) Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: floggitexx on January 15, 2015, 12:43:47 PM Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: pawel7777 on January 15, 2015, 12:48:52 PM Then again your probably a person would advise a woman to get raped as opposed to fighting back, because hey you could get hurt more. What if the woman being raped picked up a knife after the rapist was done and killed him. Would you charge her for murder and possession of a weapon? "Voluntary manslaughter is commonly defined as an intentional killing in which the offender had no prior intent to kill, such as a killing that occurs in the "heat of passion." The circumstances leading to the killing must be the kind that would cause a reasonable person to become emotionally or mentally disturbed; otherwise, the killing may be charged as a first-degree or second-degree murder. - See more at: http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/voluntary-manslaughter-overview.html#sthash.42ZjdBGr.dpuf " Yes, but they still intend to charge him of murder, not manslaughter. Quote The Queens District Attorney's office believes Capobianco's account but still hopes to convict him of murder Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: Jamie_Boulder on January 15, 2015, 12:50:47 PM Over 20 BTC...despicable.
Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: BaselessBitcoin on January 15, 2015, 06:26:30 PM Well I hope their families find some peace.
Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: biscotaste on January 15, 2015, 06:39:50 PM Its only money. If you can't afford to lose it, you should not be playing in the market.
Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: Blinken on January 15, 2015, 06:52:24 PM A hammer is a tool, not a weapon.
Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: Gleb Gamow on January 15, 2015, 06:55:50 PM free market. anger phase. blood on streets. It was likely in December. His posts ended on Dec. 10th. From the looks of it, his roomate (Jesse) was on him to give him money for some reason. The dude comes on here to try to get a loan (either to just pay the guy or use it to make money via localbitcoins), nobody gives him the loan so his roomate tells him to sell the 20 coins he does have. Dude says no so Jesse ties him up, puts a gun to his head and forces him to cash it out. Guy breaks free, bludgeons the guy with a hammer. Or it could be something else entirely that happened. Heroin and gay sex comes to mind. http://www.coloradonewsday.com/news/regional/91447-new-york-lawyer-with-a-heroin-habit-jesse-smith-bludgeoned-to-death-after-row-over-drugs.html Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: SAYNOTOPONZI on January 15, 2015, 07:34:20 PM nasty.
Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: btbrae on January 15, 2015, 07:44:11 PM He just wanted to HODL! Not laughing at the dead, but this made me chuckle haha ;D ;D ;D Drugs and money... both of these things cause people to behave like human evolution never happened. Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: Jammalan the Prophet on January 15, 2015, 08:55:38 PM A hammer is a tool, not a weapon. So he just "tooled" him , right? Wanted to turn him into a leather armchair? Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: Gleb Gamow on January 15, 2015, 08:57:13 PM A successful lawyer and a heroin addict? Did BFL just lose its lead counsel?
Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: Flashman on January 15, 2015, 09:23:18 PM A hammer is a tool, not a weapon. Yah, that disturbs me, if that's what the weapon charge was based on. Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: floggitexx on January 15, 2015, 09:27:47 PM A hammer is a tool, not a weapon. Unless used as a weapon.Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: thompete on January 15, 2015, 09:30:31 PM Holy shit, this is insane: http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20150113/long-island-city/bitcoin-trader-accused-of-murder-was-tied-up-coerced-sell-stocks-da Quote KEW GARDENS — A Bitcoin trader charged with murder Tuesday beat his roommate to death with a hammer after being tied up and forced to liquidate his stocks, he told police. Quentin Capobianco, 18, told police that his lawyer roommate, Jesse Smith, 29, had tied him up with duct tape and zip ties in their upscale Astoria apartment on Monday, and ordered him at gunpoint to sell his assets. Capobianco told police at least one other person besides Smith was involved in the act. The Queens District Attorney's office believes Capobianco's account but still hopes to convict him of murder because he escaped his bindings and went to another room where he snatched a hammer and clobbered Smith, his captor and business partner. “I grabbed the hammer from the kitchen and hit Jessie three or four times until he was unconscious,” Capobianco told the police. Capobianco and Smith ran a currency exchange business centered around Bitcoin, an online currency, according to government records and Bitcoin sites. Sources told DNAinfo New York that Smith had argued with the young trader over damage done to the apartment in the Exo building at 26-28 21st St. about 3:30 p.m. Monday before tying him up. Capobianco's lawyer Ronald Bekoff said it was too early to comment further on his client’s case, although he confirmed that the 18-year-old had a black eye — though he couldn't say how he got it. Capobianco was charged with murder and criminal possession of a weapon at Queens Criminal Court in Kew Gardens. Judge Elisa Koenderman ordered him held on $250,000 bond. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=889040.0 Quote Up to 20btc available as of writing. Call Either Jesse at 516 974 4477 or Quentin at 212 390 8093 if you want to make a deal. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=400875;sa=showPosts Wow that is some crazy shit. Sad to hear that. Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: juju on January 15, 2015, 09:35:52 PM Ya, so it was a lot more than just about Bitcoin, drugs and a relationship were probably the main contributors. As for the hammer, ya it was probably part of a bigger fight. The fact that it came to the guy holding him at gunpoint to sell his bitcoins sounds like they had a lot of fights over money. Though if they did drugs...I would think they would want to keep their money in bitcoins so they can buy from Silk Road. Pretty sad story, I recall reading somewhere recently that psychologically, Losses are twice as emotionally significant compared to gains. Probably one of the two lost faith in the technology and wanted out Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: RodeoX on January 15, 2015, 09:38:38 PM He does not have a prayer at arguing this was self defense. He went and got a weapon then returned and murdered his roommate. I don't think NY even has the castle doctrine. That means even if someone is in his home trying to kill him, he is obligated to try running away and not fight. He's a murderer and his life is over.
Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: bassclef on January 15, 2015, 09:38:59 PM Holy shit! Bottom confirmed.
Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: cakebet on January 15, 2015, 09:44:36 PM yup
I cant believe someone acutally tied someone for Bitcoin. I cant believe someone murdered someone because of a conflict related to Bitcoin. Also, he is protecting himself.. why is the court charging him so much? The judge probably wants all of his bitcoin stash in charges 8) Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: SAYNOTOPONZI on January 15, 2015, 09:45:48 PM It's normal in America.
Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: saddambitcoin on January 15, 2015, 10:00:44 PM Damn. This reminds me of the Party Monster guy, Michael Alig. He also beat his roommate in the head and went to prison for 17 years. Macaulay Culkin made a movie about him.
Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: pawel7777 on January 15, 2015, 10:06:40 PM He does not have a prayer at arguing this was self defense. He went and got a weapon then returned and murdered his roommate. I don't think NY even has the castle doctrine. That means even if someone is in his home trying to kill him, he is obligated to try running away and not fight. He's a murderer and his life is over. What if the other guy had a shotgun and threatened to kill him? And if there was no other way to run away from the apartment? All depends on circumstances. Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: TaunSew on January 15, 2015, 10:38:31 PM Blood on the streets - time to buy? ???
Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: Cryddit on January 15, 2015, 10:48:12 PM So here's how I read it.
Guy A trashes the apartment. Guy B says "you gotta pay for that" Guy A says "I'm broke cause I used my money to buy weed" Guy B says "you're not broke, you've got all that Bitcoin crap." Guy A says "I'm holding on to that." Guy B says "You gotta sell it and pay for the repairs." ... and it escalates from there. Of course it could also start with guy B wanting to buy drugs or something with Guy A's money. We don't know what went on just from the article. Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: wickedgoodtrader on January 15, 2015, 10:56:19 PM Story sounds suspect. If you can get to the kitchen to grab a hammer and then return to beat him.. you can easily gtfo the door. Logic says this guy beat the other guy with a hammer and then made up some bogus story about how he was tied up at gunpoint.
Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: stevenh512 on January 15, 2015, 10:59:13 PM What are you going to do when someone comes into your home, ties you up and attempts to kill you? When you escape do you think you are jsut going to waltz out of the apartment? In this particular instance? That's exactly what I'd do. If he could break free of his restraints, make it to the kitchen, grab a hammer and come back to kill his attacker without getting shot then he obviously wasn't in as much danger as you think he was in. He would have been better off leaving the apartment and calling the police, holding someone at gunpoint is a serious enough crime that he'd probably be safe for at least several years. I'm all for self defense, I keep a gun, a crossbow and several knives and swords where I can reach them if I ever need them and I wouldn't hesitate to use them against an armed attacker if I thought it was the only way to save my own life. That being said, if I can safely get away from my attacker (which was clearly the case here) I have absolutely no right to come back and kill him later. Yes, but they still intend to charge him of murder, not manslaughter. As they should. He clearly could have (and in fact, did) gotten away from his attacker safely and he made the conscious decision, instead of running away and calling the police, to grab a weapon and come back and use that weapon. How anyone can argue that it was self defense or even voluntary or involuntary manslaughter is beyond me, it's clearly premeditated murder. Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: thriftshopping on January 15, 2015, 11:06:04 PM What are you going to do when someone comes into your home, ties you up and attempts to kill you? When you escape do you think you are jsut going to waltz out of the apartment? In this particular instance? That's exactly what I'd do. If he could break free of his restraints, make it to the kitchen, grab a hammer and come back to kill his attacker without getting shot then he obviously wasn't in as much danger as you think he was in. He would have been better off leaving the apartment and calling the police, holding someone at gunpoint is a serious enough crime that he'd probably be safe for at least several years. I'm all for self defense, I keep a gun, a crossbow and several knives and swords where I can reach them if I ever need them and I wouldn't hesitate to use them against an armed attacker if I thought it was the only way to save my own life. That being said, if I can safely get away from my attacker (which was clearly the case here) I have absolutely no right to come back and kill him later. If however several minutes passed then the self defense claim is more shaky as the several minutes would have given him more then enough time to escape Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: BittBurger on January 15, 2015, 11:26:31 PM Bitcoin: Satans Currency.
The signs are everywhere. Murder. Intrigue. Greed. Theft. Deceit. Suicides. -B- Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: windpath on January 15, 2015, 11:26:58 PM That's just about the only way to hack securely stored bitcoins, with a $5 hammer....
Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: HysteriaBit on January 15, 2015, 11:28:08 PM Wow this is some serious shit I guess the owner of the forum will be contacted by the police soon to see if they have anything in pms etc.
Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: windpath on January 15, 2015, 11:55:04 PM Wow this is some serious shit I guess the owner of the forum will be contacted by the police soon to see if they have anything in pms etc. They were roommates and business partners, why would the send a PM? Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: Flashman on January 16, 2015, 01:44:27 AM Wow this is some serious shit I guess the owner of the forum will be contacted by the police soon to see if they have anything in pms etc. He's getting used to it ::) Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: koshgel on January 16, 2015, 05:05:41 AM Fucking nuts
Not even sure what parts of the story to believe. Must have been in some serious money troubles to go to that extent. Doesn't feel very much like self-defense. Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: seabass1985 on January 16, 2015, 05:23:16 AM That's absolutely crazy, the drop in bitcoin is going to create a huge crime spree! :o
Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: freedomno1 on January 16, 2015, 05:31:40 AM I cant believe someone acutally tied someone for Bitcoin. I cant believe someone murdered someone because of a conflict related to Bitcoin. Also, he is protecting himself.. why is the court charging him so much? Well this is a bad example of the 5 dollar method of stealing a persons bitcoins since they are usually secure. Duck tape and a hammer That said this is crazy stuff. Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: Baitty on January 16, 2015, 12:58:51 PM Real sad news...cant believe its happended any more updates on it?
Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: Bitcoins101 on January 16, 2015, 05:36:19 PM 1. $2750 rent per month for one-room apartment in Queens?? That's a bargain these days. Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: ivonna on January 16, 2015, 06:36:33 PM Wow this is some serious shit I guess the owner of the forum will be contacted by the police soon to see if they have anything in pms etc. They were roommates and business partners, why would the send a PM? Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: untel on January 17, 2015, 03:08:21 AM We need some memes on these pics ;D Dude! The guy is dead... Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: Q7 on January 17, 2015, 05:34:41 AM I kept reading this again and again was wondering, why does he need to force him to sell the bitcoins at gunpoint. Why can't he just rob him and take away everything.
Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: twister on January 17, 2015, 07:28:31 AM Shit, this is sad news. RIP good man!
Let this be a lesson guys, if you hold a big amount of bitcoins don't go parading telling everyone about it because there are lunatics everywhere and will do anything for drugs or whatever it is they want. Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: Wendigo on January 17, 2015, 09:44:16 AM Shit, this is sad news. RIP good man! Let this be a lesson guys, if you hold a big amount of bitcoins don't go parading telling everyone about it because there are lunatics everywhere and will do anything for drugs or whatever it is they want. I have seen pictures of girls with tattooed bitcoin wallets QR codes on their back ;D Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: irfan_pak10 on January 17, 2015, 09:48:37 AM Shit, this is sad news. RIP good man! Let this be a lesson guys, if you hold a big amount of bitcoins don't go parading telling everyone about it because there are lunatics everywhere and will do anything for drugs or whatever it is they want. I have seen pictures of girls with tattooed bitcoin wallets QR codes on their back ;D Holly Shit :o I can do any thing to bring the price of BTC up, So be carefull dont tell me how much BTC you have also i have a hammer ;D ;D ;D ;D Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: bornil267645 on January 17, 2015, 11:34:35 AM Well that dude must have put everythinh on bitcoin and when he saw the price drop, he couldn't control himself.
Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: pawel7777 on January 17, 2015, 12:46:59 PM Well that dude must have put everythinh on bitcoin and when he saw the price drop, he couldn't control himself. You didn't even read the article, didn't you? Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: FederalReserveofWIP on January 17, 2015, 01:12:23 PM Holy shit, this is insane: http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20150113/long-island-city/bitcoin-trader-accused-of-murder-was-tied-up-coerced-sell-stocks-da Quote KEW GARDENS — A Bitcoin trader charged with murder Tuesday beat his roommate to death with a hammer after being tied up and forced to liquidate his stocks, he told police. Quentin Capobianco, 18, told police that his lawyer roommate, Jesse Smith, 29, had tied him up with duct tape and zip ties in their upscale Astoria apartment on Monday, and ordered him at gunpoint to sell his assets. Capobianco told police at least one other person besides Smith was involved in the act. The Queens District Attorney's office believes Capobianco's account but still hopes to convict him of murder because he escaped his bindings and went to another room where he snatched a hammer and clobbered Smith, his captor and business partner. “I grabbed the hammer from the kitchen and hit Jessie three or four times until he was unconscious,” Capobianco told the police. Capobianco and Smith ran a currency exchange business centered around Bitcoin, an online currency, according to government records and Bitcoin sites. Sources told DNAinfo New York that Smith had argued with the young trader over damage done to the apartment in the Exo building at 26-28 21st St. about 3:30 p.m. Monday before tying him up. Capobianco's lawyer Ronald Bekoff said it was too early to comment further on his client’s case, although he confirmed that the 18-year-old had a black eye — though he couldn't say how he got it. Capobianco was charged with murder and criminal possession of a weapon at Queens Criminal Court in Kew Gardens. Judge Elisa Koenderman ordered him held on $250,000 bond. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=889040.0 Quote Up to 20btc available as of writing. Call Either Jesse at 516 974 4477 or Quentin at 212 390 8093 if you want to make a deal. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=400875;sa=showPosts This is extremely tragic news. All holders and users of bitcoin are subject to the exact same rules of society that anyone else is, and criminal actions must be addressed with very strong consequences. Chairman, Federal Reserve of WIP Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: Taras on January 18, 2015, 07:54:52 AM We need some memes on these pics ;D Dude! The guy is dead... https://i.imgur.com/8EWOoxP.png These guys are dead too... I think... Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: 98problems on January 18, 2015, 06:43:39 PM Shit, this is sad news. RIP good man! That wouldn't have changed anything. They were business partners so they had to have known the approximate amounts of personal assets they had. Let this be a lesson guys, if you hold a big amount of bitcoins don't go parading telling everyone about it because there are lunatics everywhere and will do anything for drugs or whatever it is they want. Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: Flashman on January 18, 2015, 06:52:17 PM Shit, this is sad news. RIP good man! That wouldn't have changed anything. They were business partners so they had to have known the approximate amounts of personal assets they had. Let this be a lesson guys, if you hold a big amount of bitcoins don't go parading telling everyone about it because there are lunatics everywhere and will do anything for drugs or whatever it is they want. It's more like a lesson reminding you, you are far more likely to be murdered by someone you know than a stranger :D Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: redsn0w on January 18, 2015, 06:56:00 PM This is a real bad news for the bitcoin image , now all will start thinking against the bitcoin.... :-\
Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: darkota on January 18, 2015, 07:14:31 PM What are you going to do when someone comes into your home, ties you up and attempts to kill you? When you escape do you think you are jsut going to waltz out of the apartment? In this particular instance? That's exactly what I'd do. If he could break free of his restraints, make it to the kitchen, grab a hammer and come back to kill his attacker without getting shot then he obviously wasn't in as much danger as you think he was in. He would have been better off leaving the apartment and calling the police, holding someone at gunpoint is a serious enough crime that he'd probably be safe for at least several years. I'm all for self defense, I keep a gun, a crossbow and several knives and swords where I can reach them if I ever need them and I wouldn't hesitate to use them against an armed attacker if I thought it was the only way to save my own life. That being said, if I can safely get away from my attacker (which was clearly the case here) I have absolutely no right to come back and kill him later. Yes, but they still intend to charge him of murder, not manslaughter. As they should. He clearly could have (and in fact, did) gotten away from his attacker safely and he made the conscious decision, instead of running away and calling the police, to grab a weapon and come back and use that weapon. How anyone can argue that it was self defense or even voluntary or involuntary manslaughter is beyond me, it's clearly premeditated murder. Indeed this story is quite odd. If the man had time to get away(which also makes no sense since he claims he was tied up), then he would definitely have time to run out of the door and find safety, instead of finding a hammer and killing the guy. It all sounds like it was premeditated. Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: michinzx on January 18, 2015, 07:24:16 PM Well that dude must have put everythinh on bitcoin and when he saw the price drop, he couldn't control himself. might actually have been what happened; wanted to cut his losses and save what he had left Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: jaberwock on January 18, 2015, 07:56:17 PM Isn't it a fake news site?
Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: irfan_pak10 on January 18, 2015, 08:35:12 PM Isn't it a fake news site? Im 1000% agree with it. Its a fake news, no one give a dam f* ...its totally a fake news that some killed a man to increase the value of btc, lets say how much btc he had 1000 , i saw many buying order on trading site then why the price of btc is still there Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: MrTeal on January 19, 2015, 02:31:47 AM Isn't it a fake news site? Im 1000% agree with it. Its a fake news, no one give a dam f* ...its totally a fake news that some killed a man to increase the value of btc, lets say how much btc he had 1000 , i saw many buying order on trading site then why the price of btc is still there ??? :-\ :o ??? Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: GrandmaJean on January 19, 2015, 06:49:47 AM Isn't it a fake news site? Im 1000% agree with it. Its a fake news, no one give a dam f* ...its totally a fake news that some killed a man to increase the value of btc, lets say how much btc he had 1000 , i saw many buying order on trading site then why the price of btc is still there Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: Bit_Happy on January 19, 2015, 07:04:13 AM Holy shit, this is insane: http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20150113/long-island-city/bitcoin-trader-accused-of-murder-was-tied-up-coerced-sell-stocks-da Quote KEW GARDENS — A Bitcoin trader charged with murder Tuesday beat his roommate to death with a hammer after being tied up and forced to liquidate his stocks, he told police. Quentin Capobianco, 18, told police that his lawyer roommate, Jesse Smith, 29, had tied him up with duct tape and zip ties in their upscale Astoria apartment on Monday, and ordered him at gunpoint to sell his assets. Capobianco told police at least one other person besides Smith was involved in the act. The Queens District Attorney's office believes Capobianco's account but still hopes to convict him of murder because he escaped his bindings and went to another room where he snatched a hammer and clobbered Smith, his captor and business partner. “I grabbed the hammer from the kitchen and hit Jessie three or four times until he was unconscious,” Capobianco told the police. Capobianco and Smith ran a currency exchange business centered around Bitcoin, an online currency, according to government records and Bitcoin sites. Sources told DNAinfo New York that Smith had argued with the young trader over damage done to the apartment in the Exo building at 26-28 21st St. about 3:30 p.m. Monday before tying him up. Capobianco's lawyer Ronald Bekoff said it was too early to comment further on his client’s case, although he confirmed that the 18-year-old had a black eye — though he couldn't say how he got it. Capobianco was charged with murder and criminal possession of a weapon at Queens Criminal Court in Kew Gardens. Judge Elisa Koenderman ordered him held on $250,000 bond. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=889040.0 Quote Up to 20btc available as of writing. Call Either Jesse at 516 974 4477 or Quentin at 212 390 8093 if you want to make a deal. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=400875;sa=showPosts Rough sex gone bad: What is a New York lawyer doing with a pile of zip ties in the house? Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: A.F.K on January 19, 2015, 07:09:26 AM Should have just had him sell off the stocks.
Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: botany on January 19, 2015, 03:34:47 PM Yikes... This is scary.
I already have nightmares of being forced to give up my private keys. Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: cakebet on January 26, 2015, 08:58:29 PM Intoxicants may have been a factor here. But the zip ties make it sound premeditated.
Holy shit, this is insane: http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20150113/long-island-city/bitcoin-trader-accused-of-murder-was-tied-up-coerced-sell-stocks-da Quote KEW GARDENS — A Bitcoin trader charged with murder Tuesday beat his roommate to death with a hammer after being tied up and forced to liquidate his stocks, he told police. Quentin Capobianco, 18, told police that his lawyer roommate, Jesse Smith, 29, had tied him up with duct tape and zip ties in their upscale Astoria apartment on Monday, and ordered him at gunpoint to sell his assets. Capobianco told police at least one other person besides Smith was involved in the act. The Queens District Attorney's office believes Capobianco's account but still hopes to convict him of murder because he escaped his bindings and went to another room where he snatched a hammer and clobbered Smith, his captor and business partner. “I grabbed the hammer from the kitchen and hit Jessie three or four times until he was unconscious,” Capobianco told the police. Capobianco and Smith ran a currency exchange business centered around Bitcoin, an online currency, according to government records and Bitcoin sites. Sources told DNAinfo New York that Smith had argued with the young trader over damage done to the apartment in the Exo building at 26-28 21st St. about 3:30 p.m. Monday before tying him up. Capobianco's lawyer Ronald Bekoff said it was too early to comment further on his client’s case, although he confirmed that the 18-year-old had a black eye — though he couldn't say how he got it. Capobianco was charged with murder and criminal possession of a weapon at Queens Criminal Court in Kew Gardens. Judge Elisa Koenderman ordered him held on $250,000 bond. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=889040.0 Quote Up to 20btc available as of writing. Call Either Jesse at 516 974 4477 or Quentin at 212 390 8093 if you want to make a deal. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=400875;sa=showPosts Rough sex gone bad: What is a New York lawyer doing with a pile of zip ties in the house? Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: Mr. Burns on January 26, 2015, 11:40:32 PM If I'd sometimes play the part. Afraid to lose..
Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: doubleredrolex on January 27, 2015, 05:32:23 AM heard about a home invasion... a tech nerd early adopter with a ton of BTC was robbed at gunpoint and forced to send all his BTC to the robber. Best not to tell people what you have.
Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: nikona on January 27, 2015, 11:40:39 AM heard about a home invasion... a tech nerd early adopter with a ton of BTC was robbed at gunpoint and forced to send all his BTC to the robber. Best not to tell people what you have. Wow did that really happen?? F'in sucks to be that guy.! Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: Lethn on January 27, 2015, 11:43:26 AM I also heard about a guy who got his miners stolen ( think it may have been ASIC ) because he posted up he had received them on this forum I think, this is why I get pretty pissy with strangers on the internet who go around demanding personal information like addresses without any real cause for it.
The only time you need an address or post code is if you intend to post something to a customer or receive something from a merchant, don't get baited into posting your personal information online unless it's absolutely necessary. Whoever is doing it is likely some extremely dodgy person looking out for someone who's easily intimidated. Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: thejaytiesto on January 28, 2015, 05:35:29 PM This is pretty scary. And given bitcoin transactions are irreversible.. how can the guy recover his money? i mean he deserves it back right?
Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: Madness on January 28, 2015, 05:43:57 PM This is pretty scary. And given bitcoin transactions are irreversible.. how can the guy recover his money? i mean he deserves it back right? It is scary indeed.Well he does , but he can't of course otherwise he will get a Rifle pointed to his head this time . Bitcoin or life , I prefer life personally Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: oblivi on January 28, 2015, 06:35:58 PM This is pretty scary. And given bitcoin transactions are irreversible.. how can the guy recover his money? i mean he deserves it back right? It is scary indeed.Well he does , but he can't of course otherwise he will get a Rifle pointed to his head this time . Bitcoin or life , I prefer life personally But this should actually be addressed.. what if you get robbed, someone enters your house and forces you to send all your btc to his (the robber's) address? what can be done about it? Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: fenghush on January 28, 2015, 06:38:41 PM All bitcoins should come with a free hammer from now on.
Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: slaveforanunnak1 on January 28, 2015, 07:08:53 PM motherfuckers get tied up and robbed all the time! whats the issue here?
Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: fenghush on January 28, 2015, 08:52:37 PM motherfuckers get tied up and robbed all the time! whats the issue here? It's not everyday they get tied up and robbed for randomly generated hashes. Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: hongw on January 29, 2015, 12:25:24 AM This is pretty scary. And given bitcoin transactions are irreversible.. how can the guy recover his money? i mean he deserves it back right? It is scary indeed.Well he does , but he can't of course otherwise he will get a Rifle pointed to his head this time . Bitcoin or life , I prefer life personally But this should actually be addressed.. what if you get robbed, someone enters your house and forces you to send all your btc to his (the robber's) address? what can be done about it? To address your hypothetical scenario you can not advertise the fact that you have a lot of bitcoin to prevent people from using physical force like this against you Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: koelen3 on January 29, 2015, 04:11:24 AM This is pretty scary. And given bitcoin transactions are irreversible.. how can the guy recover his money? i mean he deserves it back right? It is scary indeed.Well he does , but he can't of course otherwise he will get a Rifle pointed to his head this time . Bitcoin or life , I prefer life personally But this should actually be addressed.. what if you get robbed, someone enters your house and forces you to send all your btc to his (the robber's) address? what can be done about it? To address your hypothetical scenario you can not advertise the fact that you have a lot of bitcoin to prevent people from using physical force like this against you Why would anyone do that , i mean if they breaks in your house , they will search for Cash and other expensive stuff! Why and how would they know you hold Bitcoins unless untill you're advertising it! And if they do , either they know you quite well! OR you're just too big of a loud mouth Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: BitcoinEXpress on January 29, 2015, 08:35:08 AM Somebody killed somebody over money. Why the shock? ~BCX~ Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: koelen3 on January 29, 2015, 09:59:26 AM Somebody killed somebody over money. Why the shock? ~BCX~ yep! nothing new but didn't killed him , just looted him. Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: MrTeal on January 29, 2015, 02:24:22 PM Somebody killed somebody over money. Why the shock? ~BCX~ yep! nothing new but didn't killed him , just looted him. Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: ChuckBuck on January 29, 2015, 02:39:16 PM That is the craziest Bitcoin related murder I've heard thus far in it's short history.
Why's a 18 year old kid and 29 year old lawyer business partners to begin with anyways? I'm guessing the tanking price made the lawyer loco, tied up the young'n and tried to force him to eat the loss and sell. The young'n wanted to keep HODLING I guess, so that's it pretty much it in a nutshell. Once he broke out of his ties, he literally brought down the hammer on the lawyer. Sad, bizarre, fucked up news all in one. Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: koelen3 on January 29, 2015, 03:17:31 PM Somebody killed somebody over money. Why the shock? ~BCX~ yep! nothing new but didn't killed him , just looted him. Shit :-/ , good thing i work alone :D Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: hongw on January 30, 2015, 01:07:00 AM This is pretty scary. And given bitcoin transactions are irreversible.. how can the guy recover his money? i mean he deserves it back right? It is scary indeed.Well he does , but he can't of course otherwise he will get a Rifle pointed to his head this time . Bitcoin or life , I prefer life personally But this should actually be addressed.. what if you get robbed, someone enters your house and forces you to send all your btc to his (the robber's) address? what can be done about it? To address your hypothetical scenario you can not advertise the fact that you have a lot of bitcoin to prevent people from using physical force like this against you Why would anyone do that , i mean if they breaks in your house , they will search for Cash and other expensive stuff! Why and how would they know you hold Bitcoins unless untill you're advertising it! And if they do , either they know you quite well! OR you're just too big of a loud mouth Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: maurya78 on January 30, 2015, 04:39:23 PM I am sorry but this reads like a hoax story. Was this picked up by a reliable news source?
Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: MrTeal on January 30, 2015, 04:41:29 PM I am sorry but this reads like a hoax story. Was this picked up by a reliable news source? Have you heard of Google?https://www.google.ca/search?q=Quentin+Capobianco Title: Re: Dude forces his roomate at gunpoint to sell bitcoins! Post by: ChuckBuck on January 30, 2015, 04:50:30 PM I am sorry but this reads like a hoax story. Was this picked up by a reliable news source? I'm beginning to question DNAinfo's sources as well, as they never cite the "business" aspect although the suspect did have a Bitcointalk screen name here. No mentions of Bitcoin on anywhere except DNAinfo: http://nypost.com/2015/01/14/roommate-held-captive-kills-gun-toting-lawyer-with-hammer/ http://www.amny.com/news/quentin-capobianco-beats-roommate-jesse-smith-to-death-with-a-hammer-in-queens-cops-say-1.9802380 http://gothamist.com/2015/01/13/teen_roommate_kills.php NY Daily News does mention Bitcoins in passing, but looks more like more like a drug related death, than Bitcoin price tanking one. http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/queens-lawyer-roommate-charged-fatal-hammer-beating-article-1.2075743 Like the victim had heroine withdrawal symptoms and took it out on the 18 yr old. Like maybe the 18 yr was his "gopher", and the gopher said no to the junkie lawyer finally, and then he turned around and tried to force the 18 yr to sell all his coins and kick him out his pad, then that's when the fight broke out. |
