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Economy => Economics => Topic started by: jwcastle on January 16, 2015, 10:27:27 AM



Title: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: jwcastle on January 16, 2015, 10:27:27 AM
If your investment looked like this chart in the last 180 days, what would you do?

Are you still going to hold? If you do hold, why haven't you bought more? After all, if you are holding, that means you believe that BTC is going to the moon. And if you believe that, you should buy more, a lot more, while the price is low.


http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y61/tsa702/btc-chart.jpg



Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: saddampbuh on January 16, 2015, 10:31:46 AM
holding, only not buying more because i dont have money


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: inigthz on January 16, 2015, 10:33:39 AM
Dump is over bro. We rise slowly. Keep watching.  ;)


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: cbeast on January 16, 2015, 10:54:28 AM
You should have asked that question last July.


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: qory on January 16, 2015, 11:09:01 AM
I don't call it investment when i want make a profit fast, wait and see and keep holding.


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: PointlessSpeculation on January 16, 2015, 11:47:33 AM
lol I certainly wouldn't be selling my bitcoin and taking a loss I would just buy the cheap coins and prepare for the next wave.


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: countryfree on January 16, 2015, 11:53:31 AM
I suggest anyone reading this topic sells all his BTC as fast as possible to get the price even lower.
I won't sell mine, though.


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: sandykho47 on January 16, 2015, 12:22:30 PM
How about sell at high price & buy at low price
This will be better choice than just sell / hold


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: dinofelis on January 16, 2015, 12:23:07 PM
If your investment looked like this chart in the last 180 days, what would you do?

Are you still going to hold? If you do hold, why haven't you bought more? After all, if you are holding, that means you believe that BTC is going to the moon. And if you believe that, you should buy more, a lot more, while the price is low.


http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y61/tsa702/btc-chart.jpg



Past price is no indication for future price in a perfect market.
Investment decisions are based upon an analysis of fundamentals as compared to the current market price, and the belief that you know better than the market (if not, the market has already calculated the best possible price including all future benefits).



Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: jwcastle on January 16, 2015, 12:35:29 PM
The question everyone should be asking is "Why aren't you buying more BTC at the current low price?"

If you bought 1 BTC at $700 six months ago and you refuse to take a loss, then you have to wait until it gets to above $700 before you make a profit.
At the current price, you can buy 1 BTC for $200, and to make a profit, it only has to go above $450.  That would be a lot more likely than reaching $700.
If you bought 10 BTC today for $2000, you'd start making a profit at $245.

My question to everyone who is holding, why aren't you buying more today?  (besides being broke)




Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: bitbunnny on January 16, 2015, 02:01:42 PM
Looks like everyone is broke, nobody is buying...


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: LuckyBtc on January 16, 2015, 02:22:22 PM
The answer everyone should be asking is "Why aren't you buying more BTC at the current low price?"

If you bought 1 BTC at $700 six months ago and you refuse to take a loss, then you have to wait until it gets to above $700 before you make a profit.
At the current price, you can buy 1 BTC for $200, and to make a profit, it only has to go above $450.  That would be a lot more likely than reaching $700.
If you bought 10 BTC today for $2000, you'd start making a profit at $245.

My question to everyone who is holding, why aren't you buying more today?  (besides being broke)

I guess they're thinking i'll go down even more like $100.(I don't think i'll go down there)


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: 1Referee on January 16, 2015, 02:39:07 PM
Looks like everyone is broke, nobody is buying...

What are you looking at?

A lot people have already bought and will buy more when they gain confidence to do so.

But the most funny thing is... Many people will start with buying once they see the price is going up.

For them that's the sort of confidence that they need :D


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: Snow Trader on January 16, 2015, 03:03:40 PM
Looks like everyone is broke, nobody is buying...

What are you looking at?

A lot people have already bought and will buy more when they gain confidence to do so.

But the most funny thing is... Many people will start with buying once they see the price is going up.

For them that's the sort of confidence that they need :D

It's wobbling back and forth for awhile now I wonder whats causing that a lot of buy and sell orders?


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: waterpile on January 16, 2015, 04:06:46 PM
Past price is no indication for future price in a perfect market.
Investment decisions are based upon an analysis of fundamentals as compared to the current market price, and the belief that you know better than the market (if not, the market has already calculated the best possible price including all future benefits).


best post i have read so far.


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: spazzdla on January 16, 2015, 04:36:24 PM
I have been buying and repositioning my average buy price.

Where's your god now?


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: Mirsad on January 16, 2015, 04:38:25 PM
I have been buying and repositioning my average buy price.

Where's your god now?

You just pumped fiat in a ponzi. Good job. But reducing your average buy in price of a worthless asset won't help you buy food in the future. Good luck living on food stamps.


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: spazzdla on January 16, 2015, 06:58:51 PM
I have been buying and repositioning my average buy price.

Where's your god now?

You just pumped fiat in a ponzi. Good job. But reducing your average buy in price of a worthless asset won't help you buy food in the future. Good luck living on food stamps.

I am very well diversified with zero debt.  I doubt it.


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: bearbear on January 16, 2015, 07:39:49 PM
You never buy on that kind of trend, believe me , despite what bull may think, you will have plenty of time to buy when it will start to rise again. And it won't go high all of sudden. Just watch it going down.


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: dothebeats on January 16, 2015, 07:43:13 PM
I'm a little bit worried to the price, though, but selling at a loss is a bit dumb. So i'll just hold and wait for what's in store for btc. Buying is not an option for me now but seeing those cheap coins tempts me to.


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: Meuh6879 on January 16, 2015, 09:34:28 PM
If your investment looked like this chart in the last 180 days, what would you do?

 ;D

I prefer this chart ...

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img673/530/sUxXeR.jpg


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: kpitti on January 16, 2015, 09:52:09 PM
I will definitely keep my BTC. If I would have free money I will buy some ... may be next days. I can wait with selling.


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: Q7 on January 16, 2015, 11:06:48 PM
I continue to hold and because i believe in its future i still make small purchases. Why small amount? Because at this point you still can't determine at what level it will drop to before it finally changes direction


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: odolvlobo on January 16, 2015, 11:16:58 PM
Charts tell you nothing. The value of an investment depends on it future value. It's past value is irrelevant.


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: jwcastle on January 17, 2015, 01:41:38 AM
Charts tell you nothing. The value of an investment depends on it future value. It's past value is irrelevant.


Every stock market and exchange in the world use historical charts. They use sophisticated analysis software to predict how the market will behave. Are they all wrong?


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: odolvlobo on January 17, 2015, 04:16:04 AM
Charts tell you nothing. The value of an investment depends on it future value. It's past value is irrelevant.
Every stock market and exchange in the world use historical charts. They use sophisticated analysis software to predict how the market will behave. Are they all wrong?

In short, yes.

I can tell by the words you use that you are an investing newbie. Here is my advice to you: Investors make money because they learn, they do research, and they uncover opportunities. There is no magic formula. There is no secret system. People that believe that they can predict the future by looking at charts are nothing more than financial astrologers. Technical Analysis pretends to be a science, but the truth is that it is based on fantasy and superstition, and it is supported only by confirmation bias.


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: waterpile on January 18, 2015, 01:00:57 AM
Charts tell you nothing. The value of an investment depends on it future value. It's past value is irrelevant.


Every stock market and exchange in the world use historical charts. They use sophisticated analysis software to predict how the market will behave. Are they all wrong?


those sophistaced analysis can't predict accidents that causes crashes. Thats why most traders uses present current events and news to preditc the value


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: Agestorzrxx on January 18, 2015, 09:32:19 AM
If your investment looked like this chart in the last 180 days, what would you do?

Are you still going to hold? If you do hold, why haven't you bought more? After all, if you are holding, that means you believe that BTC is going to the moon. And if you believe that, you should buy more, a lot more, while the price is low.



You are right,  if you believe that, you should buy more, a lot more, while the price is low.
But people can't sure the price will go more low or rise up.


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: sgk on January 18, 2015, 09:39:05 AM

My question to everyone who is holding, why aren't you buying more today?  (besides being broke)


Keeping the fiat ready to buy BTC, but not buying yet because the price may still go down and I want cheaper coins than this.


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: Dread Pirate Roberts on January 18, 2015, 11:33:53 AM
thats chart will shocked investor .
crazy chart ever


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: b-stock on January 18, 2015, 11:40:40 AM
Charts tell you nothing. The value of an investment depends on it future value. It's past value is irrelevant.
Every stock market and exchange in the world use historical charts. They use sophisticated analysis software to predict how the market will behave. Are they all wrong?

In short, yes.

I can tell by the words you use that you are an investing newbie. Here is my advice to you: Investors make money because they learn, they do research, and they uncover opportunities. There is no magic formula. There is no secret system. People that believe that they can predict the future by looking at charts are nothing more than financial astrologers. Technical Analysis pretends to be a science, but the truth is that it is based on fantasy and superstition, and is supported only by confirmation bias.

A fool with a tool is still a fool...but complete denying of a tool and/or a process... ???


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: odolvlobo on January 18, 2015, 06:26:18 PM
Charts tell you nothing. The value of an investment depends on it future value. It's past value is irrelevant.
Every stock market and exchange in the world use historical charts. They use sophisticated analysis software to predict how the market will behave. Are they all wrong?

In short, yes.

I can tell by the words you use that you are an investing newbie. Here is my advice to you: Investors make money because they learn, they do research, and they uncover opportunities. There is no magic formula. There is no secret system. People that believe that they can predict the future by looking at charts are nothing more than financial astrologers. Technical Analysis pretends to be a science, but the truth is that it is based on fantasy and superstition, and is supported only by confirmation bias.

A fool with a tool is still a fool...but complete denying of a tool and/or a process... ???

Astrology, dianetics, ghost hunting, homeopathy, and technical analysis are all well-known and somewhat popular tools and/or processes.  I am completely comfortable denying that they are each based on anything more than fantasy or superstition. Of course, I can accept any tidbits of fact that they might contain (if any), but to wade through a sea of nonsense to find those truths is a waste of time.


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: cr1776 on January 18, 2015, 11:48:53 PM
If your investment looked like this chart in the last 180 days, what would you do?

I wouldn't be looking at 180 days.  IF it is an investment, your timeframe should be years.  If I look at practically any arbitrary short-period, I can show pretty much anything I want.  If I look at Nov 2010 through today, it looks quite good.



Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: LitcoinCollector on January 19, 2015, 10:33:51 AM
Invest in alts, wait till btc rises!  8)


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: polynesia on January 20, 2015, 12:43:52 AM
If I really believe in my investment, I would buy a little bit more to cost average.


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: dinofelis on January 20, 2015, 12:13:12 PM
Charts tell you nothing. The value of an investment depends on it future value. It's past value is irrelevant.
Every stock market and exchange in the world use historical charts. They use sophisticated analysis software to predict how the market will behave. Are they all wrong?

In short, yes.

I can tell by the words you use that you are an investing newbie. Here is my advice to you: Investors make money because they learn, they do research, and they uncover opportunities. There is no magic formula. There is no secret system. People that believe that they can predict the future by looking at charts are nothing more than financial astrologers. Technical Analysis pretends to be a science, but the truth is that it is based on fantasy and superstition, and it is supported only by confirmation bias.

That is true.  However, there is some kind of self-fulfilling prophecy aspect to that.  If sufficient traders use the same intrinsically worthless techniques, and hence come to the same silly conclusions about buying or selling, then those initially worthless techniques DO become true predictions of the future (at least as long as there are no other demands and offers than those from traders).

It is funny, because "technical analysis" has the same "next fool" property as money in itself: technical analysis is only worth something if others think it is worth something concerning the prediction of prices.  The specific algorithms used in technical analysis can be totally arbitrary, as long as sufficient people use the *same* algorithms.  If there is a prediction algorithm which is as silly as "at full moon prices go up by 10%", and if sufficient people BELIEVE that, they will buy just before full moon, and have the prices rise up to 10%.  Not more, because then their algorithm tells them that the asset is somewhat overpriced as compared to their "prediction".
So, technical analysis algorithms behave as money: if sufficient people think it is worth something, then it IS worth something.  



Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: dmugetsu on January 21, 2015, 06:52:23 PM
Too much risk

So i will hold for now


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: tyrexs on January 21, 2015, 08:57:20 PM
only some people holding not help bitcoin price.


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: Useli Violent on January 21, 2015, 08:59:29 PM
If your investment looked like this chart in the last 180 days, what would you do?

Are you still going to hold? If you do hold, why haven't you bought more? After all, if you are holding, that means you believe that BTC is going to the moon. And if you believe that, you should buy more, a lot more, while the price is low.


http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y61/tsa702/btc-chart.jpg



I would be shorting, with leverage.


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: RodeoX on January 21, 2015, 09:05:27 PM
I have been buying and repositioning my average buy price.

Where's your god now?

You just pumped fiat in a ponzi. Good job. But reducing your average buy in price of a worthless asset won't help you buy food in the future. Good luck living on food stamps.

I am very well diversified with zero debt.  I doubt it.
lol, that's what I was thinking. I never hold more than I have spent. Think what you like Mirsad, I'm currently shopping for boats and shore front lots with my ponzi money.


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: BAGOBO on January 23, 2015, 07:18:16 AM
i want to buy it, but the graphics are very terrible decline..
what if it does not go up?


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: DoubleTrouble on January 23, 2015, 07:26:51 AM
I would buy more  ;D Cheap Bitcoins are good!
With the BTC I have at the moment I am just holding now.


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: SargeR33 on January 23, 2015, 01:08:12 PM
I'd buy more if I wasn't so broke. I'm trying to allocate a small portion of my weekly pay to buy btc.


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: jwcastle on January 23, 2015, 02:36:56 PM
I'd buy more if I wasn't so broke. I'm trying to allocate a small portion of my weekly pay to buy btc.

Perhaps people who are broke shouldn't be in the BTC business in the first place. Same goes for any type of investments.


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: Bitcoin_BOy$ on January 23, 2015, 02:51:50 PM
Investisment not for couple days , investisment on many years  ::)


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: Madness on January 23, 2015, 02:57:28 PM
I've made around 200$ BTC worth before (full profit) and all of them earnings . I've sold them when the price was around ~300-400$ and I feel that it was the worst decision on my life , I'am planning to earn more BTC but this one I'am planning to keep & hold it till the end ;D I know and I belieave that BTc will go to the moon and I will be rich  ::)
BTC is a long term investements , early adopters got rich now it's our turn  ::)


Title: Re: If your investment looked like this...
Post by: botany on January 24, 2015, 11:14:35 AM
I'd buy more if I wasn't so broke. I'm trying to allocate a small portion of my weekly pay to buy btc.

Even if you weren't broke, you shouldn't invest more than you can afford to lose.
I would maintain that, even at these levels.