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These were nice years, but unfortunately all things come to an end. It is time to say "Goodbye". I still think bitcoin is a brilliant invention which brings immense power to the masses but the human element was more agile and found ways to almost destroy it. It's wounded, but not by a security flaw, not by a design flaw, just by misuse and abuse. Nobody can tell what will happen in the future but one thing is certain: nothing goes up indefinitely and all markets are cyclic.

Bitcoin was a chance to learn on economics, markets, psychology and technology. A great ROI. I would recommend anyone here to buy whatever amount one can loose in  the next 5 minutes and put it aside until 2017-01-17, along with the same amount in USD. I am very curious which will have more value then.

Good bye.

Take care

see the river, don't fold

Hey wait, sell me your account before you go.

 ;D

-trade2winnn

interesting, i wish you woulda made a note first.  :-\ lets retry everything again.
yeah, sell me your account for a few, pm me if ya want.

When guys who were around in 2010 start to leave...

the bottom is near.

My exact thoughts. I remember I had a scared moment in December of 2011. Glad I didn't leave.

"Be greedy when others are fearful."

Looks like you two missed what OP said: "nothing goes up indefinitely".

The strategy of buying the despairs and buying when everyone is bearish works until it doesn't.

This is strange.  Bitcoin is more a libertarian concept than a technology.  The blockchain is a technology invention that made the libertarian concept of a cryptocurrency possible.

What we are seeing (and I applaud it being a libertarian myself) is exactly the freedom we are longing for.  Predator and prey, greed and scam, the powerful and the weak, hopes and deception, wild swings, ups and downs: that IS liberty.  The "human element" is exactly what we want to liberate, and what you call the destructive powers is exactly the freedom we are longing for.  So what's the problem ???

Bitcoin is an element of libertarian freedom, and is behaving also in that way.

To me, this is all just great !  What did you expect, maybe ?  Freedom means also that you shouldn't count on any specific behavior of others to achieve something.  Freedom means exactly that: freedom.  

I would even think that high gains and high losses, despair and so on, are a very good way to distribute seigniorage well amongst people.  The early adopters will have taken profit, or will have made huge losses, and the seigniorage that would have been theirs will not be theirs as they will have gone through many periods of despair, having handed over their coins to others, with profit or with loss.  This cycle may repeat itself several times, to shake out the early coins several times, and randomly distribute it.

There always has to remain the doubt of bitcoin failing.  If it weren't, coins wouldn't get redistributed, but would simply be held indefinitely.  The genuine possibility of bitcoin failing is part of the distribution scheme.  But then, it also has a genuine probability to fail !

I don't consider myself a libertarian per se, but good points all around. It is exciting to see a wild west mentality and landscape where people are forced to be 100% accountable for themselves.

Looking at your account, I can see you are one of the early adopters. But why leave right now after having gone through so many turbulence years with bitcoin. I still keep my hopes positive that one day things will get better.

Bye and thanks for distributing the cheap coins more.

I'm kinda disappointed to see you leave like that, mainly for what dinofelis pointed out.

Instead of 60m USD you only have 10m now? That's gotta hurt, your life is ruined man!

Bitcoin is just getting started, there is still much more to experience.

Bon Voyage!

please tell me wobber is really leaving. what a wonderful place the world would be if that were true..

It's probably because he's very ill, he started a thread about it a while ago.

It's been great reading your posts wobber and I'm sorry you are leaving.

Good Luck
Take Care
and Bye bye

Trolls always say "adieu" at the bottom of bubbles, go figure.   ::)

_{(Now they go into hiding and go long... magically reappearing during the next shitstorm)}

get well soon wobber!

What do you think is wrong with Bitcoin?  I mean, other than the price being too low for your liking - what are these perceived problems you see with Bitcoin?

I think it's working just fine, and adoption continues to go up.... where is the problem?
 ???

Bye Felicia

Many of you are missing the underlying point of his statement. I sense his disgust with the community and what people have done to this new technology. Most of us in speculation offer no real advancement to the network, the tech or the economy.
I'm not excluded in this, but I do have projects in development to try to give back in a way other than being a part of price discovery.
He already said in the OP that he would tell people to buy and hold for two years. He also said nothing is wrong with the tech. It's the people around Bitcoin that are the problem. He did not say he was selling out and done with Bitcoin. I gather that he is done with this community and nothing more.

Good bye, wobber. Get well

When despair like this has set in, you know that the bottom is in.

This are the final phases of the bear market. Look at this as a great opportunity.

The Bitcoiners don't need you Wobbler:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEnoofPhBtE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEnoofPhBtE)

I like it better this way, Wubya;  I get to see you run.

I always enjoyed reading your posts. I will miss you, wobber. Von voyage, wherever you go.

If one's experience with bitcoin is limited to this forum, I get where he's coming from. This place has obviously always had ignorant trolls (as well as smart trolls), but during the 2011 bear-market troll-fest, the signal-to-noise on good discussion was much better than today. Now, it seems, on this forum, even aside from the haters, there's far far more ignorance than there used to be.

In any event, this place has become more price-driven, in terms of general sentiment, than any other part of the wider community. Twitter, reddit, zapchain, and most importantly, the people who are actually building products and services surrounding bitcoin offer far better discussion, and a much less emotionally-driven long-term outlook.

It's simultaneously frustrating and amusing to observe the sentiment on this forum and in certain media outlets (ahem: NYT), in contrast with what's actually happening in terms of ecosystem development. Hard for people see the breadth and depth of what's really happening, I guess, if they just look at price charts and snarky headlines.

FWIW, if $/BTC had gone in a straight line from the $100 it was at in Sept 2013 to the $200 it's at today, it would be a *very* different narrative; probably focusing (correctly) on the tremendous ecosystem development we've had in the past year or so. But humans just react pretty dumbly to volatility in general, so you get all the emotional nonsense instead. Oh well - it's a long-term process either way.

You'll be back. They always come back  ::)

I'd say, it's people in general, not only people around bitcoin. Even the most perfect things in the world can be fucked up by people and I'm pretty sure they will... But conclusion would be to "fold" life. I'm not going to fold!

But I will miss wobber's posts.

*facepalm*

at the amount of people wanting to buy his account. kind of proves his point

think so. good rest and until his return.

au revoir!!! "sniff " "sniff "

Goodbye my friend, I hope you have a happy and peaceful life :)

Keh bai!  ;D

Goodbye! (from a bitcointalk vagrant).

good bye and i agree with you that people itself destroyed BTC.

Im going to stay even if it hits $1

We know that you are gonna come back, but I would still say that please don't leave us being such a respected and experienced member of this community, as we need you guys... We do agree that everyone destroyed BTC just for the sake of profits and didn't take it as such a technology which if wouldn't have come into existence, the anonymity subject ain't get defined in such a manner which BTC Protocol shows to be working on...

I think the security measures is what it takes to make BTC a do-or-die coin... As you could have seen, there were so many Private Keys leaked on many websites which was not expected... And not just limited to that, but each key was correlated to each other containing just one last letter different from previous one, which compromises BTC in terms of its security...

To be honest, you were going on my tits with your crybaby drama queen behavior for months though your words about your illness softened that a bit.

I hope you'll beat your illness and be healthy but can't say I'd miss your defeatism here a single bit.

I was trying to rephrase something I had meant to post for a while yet I feel it will be lost to many in this sub.
Instead I want to thank you for the insights I gained into the early days by reading some of your old posts.

Good luck on your journey, in the end we always realize that it was the road that mattered.

+21,000,000 for Freedom
I've been hoping lately that "better people" would be attracted to Bitcoin, but I like your view that we are seeing some of the "chaos" that naturally comes from freedom.

I've gotten so much entertainment and education from following btc and this forum I would never "say goodbye." I wasn't an early adopter and I haven't gotten rich, but man has this been interesting.

No kidding, this place is a playground for those that are looking to expand their horizons in such a new world. Learn what you can and don't look back cuz the future is bright as fuck.

The bubbles always bring the speculators back.

are you a bear turned bull?

The price will be back soon, i think.

@wobber Fly safe!

statistics say: 99% of people that open a topic saying they are going to leave come back after a short while.

If he was seriously thinking about leave the forum he would open a topic selling his account for some good BTC, not a topic about how things are bad and bitcoin has no future.

Wobber calls the bottom! :)

That's because they are attention seeking. If they wanted to stop posting, they would just stop posting!
Only in very rare cases would anyone notice, and usually that is because someone who trolls constantly stops posting!

Maybe because it was exactly two years from the date of OP?

it will crash with the gov banned , utility of this currency shrink , but i will buy it as commodities

OP means USD ;D

It was nice time to meting you.  People come and go we cant help it there, internet is so unpredictable. I hope you will still come to visit us from time to time.

You must be an early adopter who probably didn't sell at 1000, and took a huge loss.

of course things go up indefinitely eg inflation of fiat.

we are just educated (or rather uneducated by omission of information about fiat/FRB/CRR) and are used to seeing buying power and income erode all the time forever over time.

x20
Literally. The USD has lost 95% against the CPI (http://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm) since the Federal Reserve began and it's not slowing down its inflation.

And yet Bitcoin's price is falling even when denominated in filthy fiat!  Imagine?  That's, like, metafail :(

no its not. Look over time since btc began and see which has fallen.

In any case even if you were right, this does not mean fiat inflation does not go up forever (over time).

 

I had a brief look over wobber posts...very brief (it sort of interesting to see how views develop like a short auto biography). At a glance (assuming his account was not hacked) it seems he sort of fell into BTC at the time. And though that it would consolidate over 1000 last time it went there.

I kinda think he sold at around 1XX and bought back in at 8-9XX and held and been slaughtered since...or something to that effect

This is one of the things that gives me hope for BTC. See early adopters of which wobber was one, spread his coins out to early as he was not really convinced beyond speculation (thats not wrong either to do that), and then gave up.  the ghost as in now. The net effect is a good deal of early coins stand to be spread out by such as wobber.

It's very sad to see you leave wobber.
Hope you stay strong and hopefully come back in jollier times!

Is this the end of you? Please don't rage quit on life. Please log back in. Fuck. :(

Wobber,

Maybe you are saying good-bye to this forum, and that is cool if you need to.
But something tells me you cannot say goodbye to bitcoin, as it is part of all of our lives now.
Like a genie out of the bottle, there is no going back.

Bitcoin will still be here, for many years, thanks to people like you..

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=986859.msg10753188#msg10753188     :(


Who has Satoshi's phone number?

IMO, You will be back, i have seen many threads like this before.
If you are unwell and need to move on then all the best for you and family.

Are you still going to hold on to a few coins, or selling up and never looking back?

I won't say good bye yet...  the experiment just started.

All people saying they will leave Bitcoin are surely keeping an eye on the price quite regularly.

If the price shows signs of recovery to older price levels these people will come back.

Not only this, they will also get sick that they didn't stay. I speak with experience  ;D

Some people are either ignorant or just jerks..

I think you missed my post, he did get back, just to say this:

All these "goodbye" posters are nothing but guys that sold their coins and are scared that while they are away the price goes up again, so they stay around spreading FUD.

The OP has been around forever and has clearly stated that he's dying. There is a world beyond the wiggly lines where actual things happen to people.

well, we all have to retire at some point, you just did it a little sooner.
so, goodbye.


dying? when did he said that?

His alleged alt account was quoted a few posts up where he said he was diagnosed w/ cancer and that it was terminal.  :( That's the most ominous and eerie thing I think I've ever read.

Shit man. I feel quite bad now knowing that he said goodbye for a serious reason if the alt account and wobber are the same person :-\

I really hope Satoshi will sign a message from one of his older wallets.

You recommand something just because you are curious ? LOL

Why do you say Goodbye if you think Bitcoin is going to rise ? Where are you leaving ?

lol how dumb people can be not even reading the last post before posting a new one..

When 4 pages is tl;dr you really ought to rethink your use of forums ::)

oh, I'm sorry.. didn't catch that one.

I'm very sorry to hear that.. :( all I can do is wish him a peaceful life from here on.

By 2017-01-17 we'll be past ATH. I wonder if OP will be back to celebrate or he meant to say a definitive goodbye regardless Bitcoin's future.

sorry to hear that. all the best for him.

You can't just "leave" btc..

this is like Cartel, mafia, drug business... there's no exit door  :D

nah.. just kidding, good luck.

Wobber, it would be much likely to get your wish granted if you post it with your main account.
Otherwise people (and Satoshi), will for sure doubt it.

Hope you're as well as you can be now, stay strong.

i don't understand why you are saying goodbye to bitcoin right now that there are more good news about it and also it is attracting more people.