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Title: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: MacAndSwiss on January 26, 2015, 01:53:12 AM
Apparently his last post on bitcointalk was in 2011 or so, does anyone know where he went (in terms of the Internet, is he still developing bitcoin or has he left the scene)?


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: ikydesu on January 26, 2015, 04:16:18 AM
I don't know.
But last time I heard, he's doing another project but I don't know what the project is.


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: DannyHamilton on January 26, 2015, 06:02:39 AM
Apparently his last post on bitcointalk was in 2011 or so,

Actually December 12, 2010 (depending on your time zone).

does anyone know where he went (in terms of the Internet, is he still developing bitcoin or has he left the scene)?

Nobody even knows who he is.  He disappeared and hasn't been heard from in over 4 years.

He might still be active on the internet and might even still be participating in Bitcoin without anyone knowing who he really is.

Personally, my guess is that he's dead.


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: Madness on January 26, 2015, 06:07:06 AM
Apparently his last post on bitcointalk was in 2011 or so, does anyone know where he went (in terms of the Internet, is he still developing bitcoin or has he left the scene)?

He left on December 13, 2010, 04:45:41 PM
He didn't say any goodbyes or anything , he simply left the forum , you can see his last posts here on his profile => https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3

No one know what he is doing , he is probably dead or probably alive , he may be group of persons or group of companies or a single independant person or even NSA :o but I still can't put the idea that he trust theymos without knowing him IRL , I guess theymos or other admins here know his real idendity but won't reveal it of course .


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: bitbaby on January 26, 2015, 06:15:56 AM
No one knows OP, this question has been boggling everyone's mind. My guess is he is still on the forum lurking probably under a new name.


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: okae on January 26, 2015, 12:32:57 PM
well i hope he/she/them didnt left the scene, from  my point of view he bring to us a pretty nice idea, the BTC and im sure great guys will have great ideas throughout his life, i really think he just has been hidden like most of us have done if was the case...


Personally, my guess is that he's dead.

nooo, thats not true because he come from an alien race who cant died :P


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: avatar_kiyoshi on January 26, 2015, 01:07:19 PM
I'm sure he is still alive and lurk in this forum with another accounts :D yes accounts! ;D


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: kwaasteniet on January 26, 2015, 01:24:40 PM
If he is smart he lives now on a little island in the middle of the pacific ocean surrounded by beautiful women and a pina colada in his left hand.  :)


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: SirChiko on January 26, 2015, 02:40:59 PM
If he is smart he lives now on a little island in the middle of the pacific ocean surrounded by beautiful women and a pina colada in his left hand.  :)
Well i also sadly have to belive he is dead, but maybe he is one of the holders as he knows it WILL get way bigger.


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: Kipsy89 on January 26, 2015, 02:45:09 PM
Personally, my guess is that he's dead.

Well he did post a one-liner when they were looking for Dorian Nakamoto and I think at some other instance as well. But yeah, those could be fake, nothing's safe in a centralized world, man.


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: DannyHamilton on January 26, 2015, 02:53:52 PM
Well he did post a one-liner when they were looking for Dorian Nakamoto

I'm confident that was fake.  If Satoshi really wanted to prove that it was himself making that post to that other forum, he would have signed the post with his private key.  He is very aware of the need to prove who he is and how to do so.

and I think at some other instance as well.

I'm not aware of any other public instance. If he's alive, it's possible that he might have continued communicating with Gavin, Theymos, and others privately.


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: Kipsy89 on January 26, 2015, 03:07:18 PM
and I think at some other instance as well.

I'm not aware of any other public instance. If he's alive, it's possible that he might have continued communicating with Gavin, Theymos, and others privately.


Yeah, that's an interesting thought I also had a couple of times before - do you think he may still be in contact with the "old" people or the core developers? Maybe he gives them hints on what to improve, but doesn't want to foster the cult-following...


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: DannyHamilton on January 26, 2015, 04:59:55 PM
do you think he may still be in contact with the "old" people or the core developers?

Do I think that?

No.

I already said:

Personally, my guess is that he's dead.


Maybe he gives them hints on what to improve, but doesn't want to foster the cult-following...

I doubt it.  The current developers are a talented group of programmers. They decide for themselves what they want to work on.  I doubt many of them would care much what Satoshi thinks should be done.


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: Madness on January 26, 2015, 05:21:38 PM
Well he did post a one-liner when they were looking for Dorian Nakamoto

I'm confident that was fake.  If Satoshi really wanted to prove that it was himself making that post to that other forum, he would have signed the post with his private key.  He is very aware of the need to prove who he is and how to do so.

and I think at some other instance as well.

I'm not aware of any other public instance. If he's alive, it's possible that he might have continued communicating with Gavin, Theymos, and others privately.


He is on the forums for 100% but just hidden under another name .
Theymos know him for 200% also , I don't think see how he would try random guy on the internet to lead one of the biggest forums on the world if he don't know him In real life & don't trust him .


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: manselr on January 26, 2015, 05:24:38 PM
He's NOT dead. Proof here:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2014/03/06/bitcoin-creator-returns-to-internet-to-say-i-am-not-dorian-nakamoto/


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: SirChiko on January 26, 2015, 05:34:29 PM
He's NOT dead. Proof here:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2014/03/06/bitcoin-creator-returns-to-internet-to-say-i-am-not-dorian-nakamoto/
He didn't sign it with private key.


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: Madness on January 26, 2015, 05:35:21 PM
He's NOT dead. Proof here:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2014/03/06/bitcoin-creator-returns-to-internet-to-say-i-am-not-dorian-nakamoto/

Well , his account on Peer to Peer foundation got hacked as far as I know and here is a post where the hacker says that he doxed him => http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source?commentId=2003008%3AComment%3A55276
"Dear Satoshi. Your dox, passwords and IP addresses are being sold on the darknet. Apparently you didn't configure Tor properly and your IP leaked when you used your email account sometime in 2010. You are not safe. You need to get out of where you are as soon as possible before these people harm you. Thank you for inventing Bitcoin."
So we can't be for sure if he was the one who posted "I'am not dorian Nakamoto" on the first place or not him .


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: --Encrypted-- on January 26, 2015, 05:56:17 PM
He's NOT dead. Proof here:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2014/03/06/bitcoin-creator-returns-to-internet-to-say-i-am-not-dorian-nakamoto/

Well , his account on Peer to Peer foundation got hacked as far as I know and here is a post where the hacker says that he doxed him => http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source?commentId=2003008%3AComment%3A55276
"Dear Satoshi. Your dox, passwords and IP addresses are being sold on the darknet. Apparently you didn't configure Tor properly and your IP leaked when you used your email account sometime in 2010. You are not safe. You need to get out of where you are as soon as possible before these people harm you. Thank you for inventing Bitcoin."
So we can't be for sure if he was the one who posted "I'am not dorian Nakamoto" on the first place or not him .

say, isn't there a chance that dorian or someone he hired actually hacked that account to clear dorian's name?

maybe he got greedy and decided to ask theymos to give him some money.  ;D

yeah, I just don't like dorian


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: elliwilli on January 26, 2015, 06:19:52 PM
we know nothing about him. his opsec was incredible and immaculate.
Either dead or sitting back watching his invention and sat on his wallet waiting to do something with it.


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: MacAndSwiss on January 27, 2015, 03:26:49 AM
I hope that he is still alive, but I guess nobody will know the other account(s) he uses.


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: fildza on January 27, 2015, 06:30:47 AM
Let say you are satoshi. Do you will use identity forever? Do you feel safe? Do you not think there thousand hacker will try to get your btc? And many more question


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: MemoryShock on January 27, 2015, 06:46:43 AM
Ladies and gentlemen...this OP is an example of new money.

Welcome to crypto...



Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: tidus1097 on January 27, 2015, 07:54:19 AM
Apparently his last post on bitcointalk was in 2011 or so, does anyone know where he went (in terms of the Internet, is he still developing bitcoin or has he left the scene)?
Only his real friend or family maybe know where he is.
Why you want to know ? Where he go ?


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: fildza on January 27, 2015, 08:03:47 AM
Apparently his last post on bitcointalk was in 2011 or so, does anyone know where he went (in terms of the Internet, is he still developing bitcoin or has he left the scene)?
Only his real friend or family maybe know where he is.
Why you want to know ? Where he go ?
Op want to test his hacking skill good enough or not  :P


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: sgk on January 27, 2015, 08:19:58 AM
Did Satoshi always use VPN and proxies to browse and access his online accounts? No traced IP addresses?


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: ninjaboon on January 27, 2015, 09:19:53 AM
Satoshi was probably a group of coders, not just one person.  ;D


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: jacktheking on January 27, 2015, 09:30:45 AM
Check this wiki page, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Nakamoto . No one know where we went. In fact, no one know who he is. Let not dig out who is Satoshi Nakamoto. Just hope that he is still helping Bitcoin behind the scene.


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: MacAndSwiss on January 28, 2015, 01:12:26 AM
Check this wiki page, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Nakamoto . No one know where we went. In fact, no one know who he is. Let not dig out who is Satoshi Nakamoto. Just hope that he is still helping Bitcoin behind the scene.

In Satoshi we trust. That should be engraved in physical bitcoin :P


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: AtheistAKASaneBrain on January 28, 2015, 02:05:21 AM
Let say you are satoshi. Do you will use identity forever? Do you feel safe? Do you not think there thousand hacker will try to get your btc? And many more question
If I was satoshi I would never feel safe again. I mean you disrupted history forever... you are disrupting the very status quo.. soo better watch your back.


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: Corenin on January 28, 2015, 04:59:17 AM
i think he is between us and watching the bitcoin ,it is possible he is surfing anonymously or using a different username
who knows but i m sure he didn't left bitcoin and us


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: jaberwock on January 28, 2015, 09:56:53 AM
Did Satoshi always use VPN and proxies to browse and access his online accounts? No traced IP addresses?


yes.

And there are thousands of pages of discussions about Satoshi identity here and around the internet, do a quick research to find things to read for weeks


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: Madness on January 28, 2015, 09:59:59 AM
Did Satoshi always use VPN and proxies to browse and access his online accounts? No traced IP addresses?

He did , he was using Tor browser also but seems like he didn't configure it as should be . A hacker managed to hack his P2P Foundation account (website where he launched Bitcoin project for the first time )
You can see here that he used his account and said that he will sell his IP in the Darknet => http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source?commentId=2003008%3AComment%3A55276


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: sgk on January 28, 2015, 10:40:06 AM
Did Satoshi always use VPN and proxies to browse and access his online accounts? No traced IP addresses?

He did , he was using Tor browser also but seems like he didn't configure it as should be . A hacker managed to hack his P2P Foundation account (website where he launched Bitcoin project for the first time )
You can see here that he used his account and said that he will sell his IP in the Darknet => http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source?commentId=2003008%3AComment%3A55276

I was aware of that, and the "I am not Dorian Nakamoto" comment. His account was hacked. I was just wondering if there are other people who know his real IP address but being very close to Satoshi and being very trusted members they don't want to reveal this information.


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: Madness on January 28, 2015, 10:47:49 AM
Did Satoshi always use VPN and proxies to browse and access his online accounts? No traced IP addresses?

He did , he was using Tor browser also but seems like he didn't configure it as should be . A hacker managed to hack his P2P Foundation account (website where he launched Bitcoin project for the first time )
You can see here that he used his account and said that he will sell his IP in the Darknet => http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source?commentId=2003008%3AComment%3A55276

I was aware of that, and the "I am not Dorian Nakamoto" comment. His account was hacked. I was just wondering if there are other people who know his real IP address but being very close to Satoshi and being very trusted members they don't want to reveal this information.

That would be Theymos & Sirius if you ask me as I said above , I don't see how he will give the Administration of this forum to theymos if he don't really trust him and don't know him in real life , same goes for Sirius he made the forum with Satoshi so he should know him for sure.


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: MacAndSwiss on January 29, 2015, 02:08:56 AM
What would be the chances of leaving us behind in the wake of bitcoin, or transferring the project to someone else?


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: funtotry on January 29, 2015, 02:10:36 AM
One way we could eventually find out who he is would be watching his wallets and see if they ever go to an exhange or reveal anything. Or satoshi could keep his btc there forever, and live his life in btc. Maybe our currency in the future will be btc, we don't know


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: DavidShares on January 29, 2015, 02:45:39 PM
That would be Theymos & Sirius if you ask me as I said above , I don't see how he will give the Administration of this forum to theymos if he don't really trust him and don't know him in real life , same goes for Sirius he made the forum with Satoshi so he should know him for sure.

Not necessarily. Wouldn't it be safe to presume that Satoshi used proxies, Tor, and other methods to mask his identity? Maybe Theymos and Sirius have ideas, better than anyone else, but maybe not certainty that it's actually him or not, right?


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: Madness on January 29, 2015, 02:58:50 PM
That would be Theymos & Sirius if you ask me as I said above , I don't see how he will give the Administration of this forum to theymos if he don't really trust him and don't know him in real life , same goes for Sirius he made the forum with Satoshi so he should know him for sure.

Not necessarily. Wouldn't it be safe to presume that Satoshi used proxies, Tor, and other methods to mask his identity? Maybe Theymos and Sirius have ideas, better than anyone else, but maybe not certainty that it's actually him or not, right?

Satoshi did used Vpn's , Proxies and Tor browser to hide his IP but they did got leaked because he didn't configure it as it should be , at least this is what the hacker who hacked his P2P Foundation account said .
Each one of us have a one of thinking , I personally won't understand how some (Satoshi) will just give the administration of this forum to theymos if he don't know him . I mean it's a big responsibility and require a lot of trust .


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: IAmARoyalElite on January 29, 2015, 03:21:35 PM
Apparently his last post on bitcointalk was in 2011 or so, does anyone know where he went ?
I'm still here just changed name  ;D


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: stellar1 on January 30, 2015, 10:06:48 AM
Apparently his last post on bitcointalk was in 2011 or so, does anyone know where he went ?
I'm still here just changed name  ;D

Great to hear! Which project are you working on these days ? We need more game-changers like Bitcoin. Is there any way I can participate on your next game-changer ?

Thanks


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: Madness on January 30, 2015, 10:22:31 AM
Apparently his last post on bitcointalk was in 2011 or so, does anyone know where he went ?
I'm still here just changed name  ;D

Great to hear! Which project are you working on these days ? We need more game-changers like Bitcoin. Is there any way I can participate on your next game-changer ?

Thanks

Please , please tell me that you know he is kidding and just trolling around :o there is no way he could be Satoshi . maybe satoshi is Theymos , that would make sense  ::)


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: ikydesu on January 30, 2015, 11:22:08 AM
Apparently his last post on bitcointalk was in 2011 or so, does anyone know where he went ?
I'm still here just changed name  ;D

Great to hear! Which project are you working on these days ? We need more game-changers like Bitcoin. Is there any way I can participate on your next game-changer ?

Thanks

Please , please tell me that you know he is kidding and just trolling around :o there is no way he could be Satoshi . maybe satoshi is Theymos , that would make sense  ::)

Haha relax he is not ;D
so complicated username, i think SN never use it ;D
theymos? i dont think so ;D


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: Mr Tea on January 30, 2015, 12:25:25 PM
do you think he may still be in contact with the "old" people or the core developers?

Do I think that?

No.

I already said:

Personally, my guess is that he's dead.

Interesting to see you say that. It's certainly possible and would explain his money not moving, but do you think the death is suspicious or just natural causes (obviously it just speculation but I'd like to know what you think).


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: stellar1 on January 30, 2015, 12:46:13 PM
Apparently his last post on bitcointalk was in 2011 or so, does anyone know where he went ?
I'm still here just changed name  ;D

Great to hear! Which project are you working on these days ? We need more game-changers like Bitcoin. Is there any way I can participate on your next game-changer ?

Thanks

I tend to believe things (and people sometimes) until they do not want me to believe them. Let him (or her or they) put in a reply.

Thanks

Please , please tell me that you know he is kidding and just trolling around :o there is no way he could be Satoshi . maybe satoshi is Theymos , that would make sense  ::)

Haha relax he is not ;D
so complicated username, i think SN never use it ;D
theymos? i dont think so ;D


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: IAmARoyalElite on January 31, 2015, 10:13:23 PM
Apparently his last post on bitcointalk was in 2011 or so, does anyone know where he went ?
I'm still here just changed name  ;D

Great to hear! Which project are you working on these days ? We need more game-changers like Bitcoin. Is there any way I can participate on your next game-changer ?

Thanks
Please , please tell me that you know he is kidding and just trolling around :o there is no way he could be Satoshi . maybe satoshi is Theymos , that would make sense  ::)
guys, you made my day  ;D


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: ajareselde on January 31, 2015, 10:42:48 PM
Apparently his last post on bitcointalk was in 2011 or so, does anyone know where he went (in terms of the Internet, is he still developing bitcoin or has he left the scene)?

noone knows who he is, but i doubt hes helping with bitcoin, i think he left and sold everything long time ago
cheers


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: wadili89 on February 02, 2015, 04:10:29 PM
Quote from: MacAndSwiss
Apparently his last post on bitcointalk was in 2011 or so, does anyone know where he went (in terms of the Internet, is he still developing bitcoin or has he left the scene)?

he is here between us writing your post he just changed his identity to be secure from terrorist and kidnappers an government as we



Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: DiFranco on February 02, 2015, 04:39:56 PM
Apparently his last post on bitcointalk was in 2011 or so, does anyone know where he went (in terms of the Internet, is he still developing bitcoin or has he left the scene)?

noone knows who he is, but i doubt hes helping with bitcoin, i think he left and sold everything long time ago
cheers

Sold everything? What do you mean by everything because his coins haven't moved from their addresses and I think that's one of the big mysteries surrounding him. I think he's moved on but I also think he's hoarding his coins for whatever reason.


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: neurotypical on February 02, 2015, 05:10:39 PM
Apparently his last post on bitcointalk was in 2011 or so, does anyone know where he went (in terms of the Internet, is he still developing bitcoin or has he left the scene)?

noone knows who he is, but i doubt hes helping with bitcoin, i think he left and sold everything long time ago
cheers

Sold everything? What do you mean by everything because his coins haven't moved from their addresses and I think that's one of the big mysteries surrounding him. I think he's moved on but I also think he's hoarding his coins for whatever reason.

For whatever reason? Bitcoin is expected to go at least 10K in the following years, thats one big reason to hoard. Plus he will never sell, if he needs something i'll buy it with bitcoin, why the fuck sell coins for fiat anyway.


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: IAmARoyalElite on February 02, 2015, 10:28:01 PM
don't think that mr. Nakamoto sold his bitcoins long time ago


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: Ingatqhvq on February 03, 2015, 03:45:36 AM
Apparently his last post on bitcointalk was in 2011 or so, does anyone know where he went (in terms of the Internet, is he still developing bitcoin or has he left the scene)?
Nobody know, he choose to leave.


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: Dread Pirate Roberts on February 04, 2015, 06:24:03 PM
i think who create project he will never left if thats project success
like bitcoin now .


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: ChuckBuck on February 04, 2015, 06:32:53 PM
Apparently his last post on bitcointalk was in 2011 or so,

Actually December 12, 2010 (depending on your time zone).

does anyone know where he went (in terms of the Internet, is he still developing bitcoin or has he left the scene)?

Nobody even knows who he is.  He disappeared and hasn't been heard from in over 4 years.

He might still be active on the internet and might even still be participating in Bitcoin without anyone knowing who he really is.

Personally, my guess is that he's dead.

I'd like to think if anyone knew who Satoshi Nakamoto was it'd be Mr. Finney:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155054.0

Hal Finney would probably know who Satoshi was, or in a plot twist, maybe Mr. Finney was Satoshi all along...

We'll never know.  RIP Hal Finney.


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: Bizmark13 on March 25, 2015, 07:23:19 PM
I'd like to think if anyone knew who Satoshi Nakamoto was it'd be Mr. Finney:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155054.0

Hal Finney would probably know who Satoshi was, or in a plot twist, maybe Mr. Finney was Satoshi all along...

We'll never know.  RIP Hal Finney.

If you read some of the earliest posts made by Satoshi in the original cryptography mailing list, you can find many conversations that happened between him and Hal Finney as well as a few other members of the cryptography community at the time. They're pretty insightful and definitely worth a read. And unless he's the type of person who talks with himself, I doubt they are the same person. ;D

One of my favorite conversations is this one where the two discuss the possible future value of Bitcoin:

http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg10142.html

Quote from: Hal Finney
One immediate problem with any new currency is how to value it. Even ignoring the practical problem that virtually no one will accept it at first, there is still a difficulty in coming up with a reasonable argument in favor of a particular non-zero value for the coins.

As an amusing thought experiment, imagine that Bitcoin is successful and becomes the dominant payment system in use throughout the world.  Then the total value of the currency should be equal to the total value of all the wealth in the world. Current estimates of total worldwide household wealth that I have found range from $100 trillion to $300 trillion. With 20 million coins, that gives each coin a value of about $10 million.

So the possibility of generating coins today with a few cents of compute time may be quite a good bet, with a payoff of something like 100 million to 1! Even if the odds of Bitcoin succeeding to this degree are slim, are they really 100 million to one against? Something to think about...

Gotta love this part:

Quote from: Satoshi Nakamoto
It could get started in a narrow niche like reward points, donation tokens, currency for a game or micropayments for adult sites.  Initially it can be used in proof-of-work applications for services that could almost be free but not quite...

...It might make sense just to get some in case it catches on.  If enough people think the same way, that becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.  Once it gets bootstrapped, there are so many applications if you could effortlessly pay a few cents to a website as easily as dropping coins in a vending machine.

As for what Satoshi did after he left the forums, I've even heard rumors that went on the develop altcoins. I know it's quite popular for altcoins with mysterious devs to claim that they are actually Satoshi in disguise. The Bytecoin community toyed with the idea. NXT did so as well. Others believe that he is actually Nick Szabo who seems oddly enthusiastic about Ethereum...


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: HI-TEC99 on March 26, 2015, 12:57:13 PM
He used UK spelling so it's unlikely he could be Nick Szabo or Mr. Finney


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: nambich on March 26, 2015, 11:20:25 PM
Satoshi ? He's brother of Hidotoshi Nakata LOL !

Just for fun !


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: GreenStox on March 27, 2015, 08:51:34 PM

Personally, my guess is that he's dead.

Do you think the banksters or the government got to him?

After all he disrupted the ponzi scheme of the banking cartel and i`m sure many investment bankers play darts using satoshi as their target.

It's just insane how evil those guys are, so even if satoshi is dead he will be remembered as a martyr for financial liberty!


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: Webnet on March 27, 2015, 09:05:17 PM
he's probably using some alt accounts in the forum


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: maku on March 27, 2015, 10:21:12 PM
I searched whole internet for posts written by Satoshi. And I find his last post. It is here: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source?commentId=2003008%3AComment%3A52186 (http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source?commentId=2003008%3AComment%3A52186)
Satoshi Wrote:
Reply by Satoshi Nakamoto on March 7, 2014 at 1:17
 "I am not Dorian Nakamoto."

So he is not inactive like some may think. He is lurking around.


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: sgk on March 28, 2015, 05:09:50 PM
I searched whole internet for posts written by Satoshi. And I find his last post. It is here: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source?commentId=2003008%3AComment%3A52186 (http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source?commentId=2003008%3AComment%3A52186)
Satoshi Wrote:
Reply by Satoshi Nakamoto on March 7, 2014 at 1:17
 "I am not Dorian Nakamoto."

So he is not inactive like some may think. He is lurking around.

This is nothing new.

This incident is very well known and has been discussed numerous times in this forum.

Apparently Satoshi's account was hacked and the hacker posted this. The message was not signed, so nobody believes it to be from Satoshi.


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: GreenStox on March 28, 2015, 11:06:32 PM
I don't understand why he doesn't reveal himself, it's just stupid to play the game of hide & seek.

He should be better than this, reveal himself and go back to work on bitcoin. He just left bitcoin and many people think that he abandoned it which puts a negative reputation to him.

Does anyone1 else agrees?


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on March 29, 2015, 04:31:09 AM
I don't understand why he doesn't reveal himself, it's just stupid to play the game of hide & seek.

He should be better than this, reveal himself and go back to work on bitcoin. He just left bitcoin and many people think that he abandoned it which puts a negative reputation to him.

Does anyone1 else agrees?

Probably because he is afraid of Government, Bank agents etc...?

You can't conclude now because we don't know "who" Satoshi is. What if one of the Bitcoin devs is Satoshi? You can't support a thing forever. He gave an idea, helped it in the beginning and gave it into safe hands.


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: GreenStox on March 29, 2015, 09:17:30 PM

Probably because he is afraid of Government, Bank agents etc...?

You can't conclude now because we don't know "who" Satoshi is. What if one of the Bitcoin devs is Satoshi? You can't support a thing forever. He gave an idea, helped it in the beginning and gave it into safe hands.

Well the "dice is cast" now isnt it?

They can't stop bitcoin now so why would the governments try to hurt him?

Besides the bitcoin foundation is doing a pretty bad job to promote bitcoin, it woul be better if it would have an iconic leader so that people would know it better.


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: gentlemand on March 29, 2015, 09:28:26 PM
I don't understand why he doesn't reveal himself, it's just stupid to play the game of hide & seek.

He should be better than this, reveal himself and go back to work on bitcoin. He just left bitcoin and many people think that he abandoned it which puts a negative reputation to him.

Does anyone1 else agrees?

It's a very valid question.

If we stay with the idea of Satoshi as a private individual rather than NSA/aliens,

Bitcoin first appeared on the cryptographic mailing list. Right off the bat that tells us he's not going to be someone with the slightest interest in the rest of the world knowing who he is.  

If he did announce himself he'd be hounded forever more. Not for breaking any laws but for his perceived wealth and what he gave the world. There's no way I could put up with that amount of attention.

Banks and old school types aren't going to 'take him out'. It's out of his hands anyway. Everyone knows who developed bittorrent and nothing's been done to them. I think it's simply for the sake of a quiet life. Life is a whole lot more manageable when you're just another nobody.

If you do believe it was a three letter agency, and that's quite possible too, then the silence is obvious as well.






Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: GreenStox on March 29, 2015, 09:37:58 PM

Banks and old school types aren't going to 'take him out'. It's out of his hands anyway. Everyone knows who developed bittorrent and nothing's been done to them. I think it's simply for the sake of a quiet life. Life is a whole lot more manageable when you're just another nobody.
Yes but banks count not care about bittorrent less. However bitcoin is a direct threat and a very big one against their monopolistic cartel over the monetary supply.

And for that they could take him out, i mean they did that with the CEO of that first bitcoin exchange.

Young woman with bright career and kids , suicided herself accidentally with a little help from a 3 letter agency. Pretty obvious to me that these banksters don't play around, the are very serious about it.

However since satoshi gave out the protocol and the blueprint already, taking him out after would only expose their criminal nasty asses.

They'd had to take him out before he exposed his project , not after it. So if satoshi would reveal himself now, they could probably put some  bogus charges on him for counterfeiting or blablabla, but i dont think they would.

So i think satoshi can now easily reveal himself, because the dice has already been cast a few years ago, now we need a strong philosophical leader to push bitcoin onto the world.









Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: ChuckBuck on April 08, 2015, 02:14:40 PM
Satoshi is too busy with his train hobby:

http://www.mylargescale.com/1stclass/GaryWoolard/01.18.14Erics/17.IMG_0288crp.jpg

Oh you mean THAT Satoshi!  Well, we'll never truly know for sure...

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/FBw-TSH-Z8g/0.jpg


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: GreenStox on April 08, 2015, 11:05:23 PM
Obviously its not that guy lol. Satoshi is more clever than that to not let traces back to him, although his face and age really confirms everything about him.

Satoshi probably has an IQ of 250 atleast, because bitcoin was way too flawless, the technology itself, so he is not that stupid to let himself be found that easily./


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: --Encrypted-- on April 08, 2015, 11:13:25 PM
Obviously its not that guy lol. Satoshi is more clever than that to not let traces back to him, although his face and age really confirms everything about him.

Satoshi probably has an IQ of 250 atleast, because bitcoin was way too flawless, the technology itself, so he is not that stupid to let himself be found that easily./

they never said he was tracked (like in a cyber way tracked). most evidence on that "case" is circumstantial, like his name and a few other things.


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: GreenStox on April 08, 2015, 11:25:01 PM
Obviously its not that guy lol. Satoshi is more clever than that to not let traces back to him, although his face and age really confirms everything about him.

Satoshi probably has an IQ of 250 atleast, because bitcoin was way too flawless, the technology itself, so he is not that stupid to let himself be found that easily./

they never said he was tracked (like in a cyber way tracked). most evidence on that "case" is circumstantial, like his name and a few other things.

Yea but Dorian Nakamoto is too similar to Satoshi Nakamoto, he just probably picked the entire phonebook , scanned it, and randomized the names so that he would pick a random name from there. He is definitely not that stupid to use any reference to his real name in his pseudoname.

Also i dont think he is from Japan, he wants to hide himself very good so, he probably picked a random country too. Japan is a good pick because it has high technology, so it would not seem too strange.

It would be funny if he would be from africa or south america, but disguising himself as a totally different character from a different culture, just to fake his identity and not let traces.


Title: Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi.
Post by: Phobosator32 on April 09, 2015, 06:32:08 PM
I think we will never know who is Satoshi, or who are Satoshi.

Satoshi need to have a very big balls of steel to reveal himself to the world, couse a lot of governments have a looooot of questions to him  :'(