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Title: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: WoodCollector on February 05, 2015, 08:23:42 PM I have never done business with CITM, certainly not 1,000BTC worth yet another blatant act of abuse of the default trust system or the trust system in general. This is far from this users first offense of using bad judgment (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=888960.0), and is most likely far from his last. Theymos, at the very least if you are not going to modify the way the default trust system works or get rid of it all together, then you are at the very least responsible for moderating its participants and protecting its integrity. If this behavior is allowed to continue your forum is going to get run into the ground. Use of fake value amounts has been grounds for removal of users in the past. i would like to believe that you are a fair and non biased admin who does not play favorites. Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: Quickseller on February 05, 2015, 08:48:03 PM You want theymos to moderate the trust system? LOL.
The reason fake amounts of Bitcoin were used was far from the reason others have been removed from the default trust network. They were removed for abusing their "power" of being in the default trust network. CITM needs to prune his trust list to include less people with zero experience detecting scams. However he should not be removed because he gave feedback to someone who he thinks is a scammer. Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: WoodCollector on February 05, 2015, 08:52:31 PM You want theymos to moderate the trust system? LOL. The reason fake amounts of Bitcoin were used was far from the reason others have been removed from the default trust network. They were removed for abusing their "power" of being in the default trust network. CITM needs to prune his trust list to include less people with zero experience detecting scams. However he should not be removed because he gave feedback to someone who he thinks is a scammer. Your right, he should be removed for leaving a false amount on feedback for a transaction that never happened which is an abuse of power. But you'll never see that as you stand to lose rating on some of your alts if that happens. Thanks for your 2 satoshis, but you have already lost all credibility in my book. This is theymos's decision. He can either fix the system, moderate the system, or remove the system. or continue to be bombarded by requests and garbage every time someone in a position of power abuses it. If not just on principal alone, it behooves him to fix the problem to avoid his own frustration and wasted time. Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: TECSHARE on February 05, 2015, 09:01:03 PM CITM has also repeatedly failed to remove trust abusers from his trust list.
The most recent example: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=935984.msg10366822#msg10366822 Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: Quickseller on February 05, 2015, 09:16:33 PM You want theymos to moderate the trust system? LOL. The reason fake amounts of Bitcoin were used was far from the reason others have been removed from the default trust network. They were removed for abusing their "power" of being in the default trust network. CITM needs to prune his trust list to include less people with zero experience detecting scams. However he should not be removed because he gave feedback to someone who he thinks is a scammer. Your right, he should be removed for leaving a false amount on feedback for a transaction that never happened which is an abuse of power. But you'll never see that as you stand to lose rating on some of your alts if that happens. Thanks for your 2 satoshis, but you have already lost all credibility in my book. This is theymos's decision. He can either fix the system, moderate the system, or remove the system. or continue to be bombarded by requests and garbage every time someone in a position of power abuses it. If not just on principal alone, it behooves him to fix the problem to avoid his own frustration and wasted time. You do not know anything about any of my alts and none of them have trust from anyone on CITMs trust list. There is no reason why you cannot leave trust if you have not done a transaction with someone. The trust system is actually designed so that people on default trust network mainly give trust to people they have not done business with as they should be able to spot scams and leave the appropriate trust feedback. The 1,000 Btc risked amount is only a technicality and is a distraction to the conversation. Theymos does not think the forum belongs to him. His belief is that it belongs to the community and as a result he seeks the input of the community prior to making most decisions. Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: BG4 on February 05, 2015, 09:46:20 PM I would like to petition for a survivor style voting system .... where when an annoying member of the tribe cries about the trust system not working for their own scam and scammer buddies.... the rest of the tribe can vote them off of the island....so the tribe can get on with their activities....
Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: EFS on February 05, 2015, 10:03:08 PM Request removal of default trust list. Seriously, when will we get rid of it?
Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: Blazed on February 05, 2015, 10:32:34 PM Request removal of default trust list. Seriously, when will we get rid of it? If it is used the right way it works fine. When people abuse it they should be punished. I think public disputes are the way to go. Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: WoodCollector on February 05, 2015, 10:39:43 PM Request removal of default trust list. Seriously, when will we get rid of it? If it is used the right way it works fine. When people abuse it they should be punished. I think public disputes are the way to go. +1 If it is used the right way Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: SpanishSoldier on February 05, 2015, 11:28:07 PM Request removal of default trust list. Seriously, when will we get rid of it? If it is used the right way it works fine. When people abuse it they should be punished. I think public disputes are the way to go. CanaryInTheMine is time & again doing it in the wrong way. If not removed from DefaultTrust, at least he should be demoted to level 2. His choices are too bad and it has also been discussed time & again. I'd rather expect people like joehoe, DannyHammilton or Death&Taxes be added to DefaultTrust, who are actually respected by the community and does not fight to hold their seat. Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: WoodCollector on February 05, 2015, 11:42:27 PM Request removal of default trust list. Seriously, when will we get rid of it? If it is used the right way it works fine. When people abuse it they should be punished. I think public disputes are the way to go. CanaryInTheMine is time & again doing it in the wrong way. If not removed from DefaultTrust, at least he should be demoted to level 2. His choices are too bad and it has also been discussed time & again. I'd rather expect people like joehoe, DannyHammilton or Death&Taxes be added to DefaultTrust, who are actually respected by the community and does not fight to hold their seat. Another +1. Very well put. I dont know joehoe, but i agree totally about danny and deathandtaxes Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: ACCTseller on February 05, 2015, 11:58:50 PM Another +1. Very well put. I dont know joehoe, but i agree totally about danny and deathandtaxes No offense buddy, but from the looks of it, you have the knowledge about the forum that vastly exceeds that of someone who has only been here a few months. This is especially true considering that you recently were posting multiple threads in the reputation section that happens to be against the rules. Are you sure that someone didn't buy your account from you? Maybe someone with a ulterior motive? Your writing style does seem to have changed. Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: BG4 on February 06, 2015, 12:31:50 AM Another +1. Very well put. I dont know joehoe, but i agree totally about danny and deathandtaxes No offense buddy, but from the looks of it, you have the knowledge about the forum that vastly exceeds that of someone who has only been here a few months. This is especially true considering that you recently were posting multiple threads in the reputation section that happens to be against the rules. Are you sure that someone didn't buy your account from you? Maybe someone with a ulterior motive? Your writing style does seem to have changed. Haven't you heard .... Woodcollector went from not knowing what a bitcoin was 2 months ago to leading the New Forum Revolution so he can be the head scammer.. So why bother with the current system when you have your own waiting ....... The “default trust” system is a failed concept and does more damage to this forum than good. I'm new here, only a few months into bitcoin. In that few short months I have learned a lot about the bitcoin ecosystem, its strengths and its weaknesses. Bitcoin as a technology is a great thing, it truly has the power to change the future of finance in ways that have not even been publicly discussed yet, but bitcoin as a currency and a community is becoming a plague that is forever stunting the growth of Bitcoin among merchants and companies. Like it or not, the community is a large part of the bitcoin ecosystem. The easy solution to this problem is simple. Dont use Bitcointalk.org or /r/bitcoin if your involved in the bitcoin ecosystem. That's all good and well if you have been involved in bitcoin long enough to know what you need to know and you are simply choosing to participate in discussion and know the other places and websites to get the info you might want in the future. But for those who are not technology savvy, merchants who want to explore alternatives to credit cards or standard merchant processing options, well... They are stuck with this forum. Not because this forum is such a great place to find out information any more, not because this forum is the backbone of the bitcoin community, No, its because of search engines. Take a few seconds, open a new browser tab, go to google, bing, yahoo, you name it. Then search for ___________ Bitcoin. You can fill in the blank. Almost 80% of the time over half of the search results on that first page are links to something on bitcointalk.org and that's a huge problem. I have spent many, many hours diving into this forum, threads from 4 years ago and threads from today. This forum at one time appears to have been one of the greatest resources for Bitcoin knowledge on the web. As of late, it has become nothing more than one giant elementary school playground. The worst part is for those of you whom are visual people and analytical thinkers, If you take the bitcoin price for the past 6 months, and the amount of quality vs. useless posts on every given day on this forum and graph them, you will see that as the quality of content and discussion decrease on this forum, so too does the value of your precious bitcoin. Long time contributors and Bitcoin veterans are leaving, merchants who come to find out information about the community they would be catering to are choosing to overlook bitcoin as a payment option for lack of wanting to deal with the mentality of what is portrayed as the average bitcoin user, and the only people left in the community are either really thick skinned, or here to satisfy their need for attention most likely as a result of a personality disorder called Histrionic personality disorder (http://psychcentral.com/disorders/histrionic-personality-disorder-symptoms/) or HPD for short. It is a very common disease to find among people in video game communities or large social media sites such as BCT.org. This history of not just this forum but documented history of the internet over the past few years is exactly why a “default trust” system is not just a bad, but a horrible idea for ANY social gathering site online today. The default trust system as implemented on this forum, turns this from an online knowledge base and place for discussion, into a video game. There is now a prize that can be achieved for trust farming, use of your skills at manipulating a situation via shills, and alternate accounts, and more easily a reward if you transact with or can get escrow set up with a few people on this forum like Canary In The Mine. Because of this default trust system, this once great knowledge base has become the breeding ground for virtual popularity contests and gaming which would be all good and well if it was not for the fact that as far as search engines have indexed, this is still suppose to be the one stop shop for people interested in learning about bitcoin. I will use my own experience over these past few months as an example. Not to further the debate and thousands of useless posts that have already been spilled into the database which is Bitcointalk.org, but as an outline that I am sure dozens of you can relate to. (although it will anger and probably cause another 20+ pages of useless posts by those who suffer from HPD on this forum) It was November of last year, I received a gift from a family member. A paper wallet with 10BTC loaded onto it. I was told to spend it on something. It was his attempt at trying to get me to learn about how bitcoin works. Me being me, a woodworker and and artist (contrary to the speculation of the HPD's on this forum) my first and only thought was, “we'll i'll see if bitcoin can buy me some wood for my warehouse”, and so came my account on this forum, and my very first post here [WTB] Exotic woods from around the world with Bitcoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=846852.msg9442160#msg9442160) on November 5th 2014. Long story short, within 1 day all 10 bitcoin was gone and I had a lot of new wood on its way to one of my warehouses. Until that day, I obtained wood via brokers and wholesalers. It is expensive and inconvenient as firstly you have to pay the middle man who probably has a few middle men himself, you pretty much had to pay shipping 3 or 4 times as you know they are charging you for the shipping and customs fees from the country of origin, shipping from customs to the mill where the cants are cut, then shipping to their warehouse and finally shipping to me the end user. On that day back in November I realized I could literally save millions of dollars this year re-stocking my warehouses by buying the wood direct using bitcoin. So.... I did. I was buying bitcoin like a mad man, talking with people all over the world, turning that bitcoin into wood via this very forum. People in borderline 3rd world countries were making thousands of dollars which to them might as well be a million just by chopping down that tree in their back yard and having it shipped to me. By the end of December millions of dollars worth of bitcoin had been bought, sent, and spent. Just as bitcoin was intended to be used. Along the way, I had dozens of people contacting me to make them things out of wood related to bitcoin. It was neat and all, but not really why I was here, I did it more so as a way to say thanks and give back to the community that was saving me a fortune by using bitcoin. Because of this, I quickly got a bullseye painted on my back and it was all in part due to the default trust system and the gamers with HPD on the forum. Within 1 week there was over 500 posts which when you look at them are nothing more than the same crowd of guys gaming for virtual popularity, a feud that still carries on today. Why? The default trust system. It's a video game. Almost by definition its a MMORPG. I cant and dont have the desire to count the number of times battles have been waged over this “virtual points system”. Now, just from my own hired hit (the 1,000+ posts for nothingness) there is yet another debate currently 10 pages long about having the instigator Nubbins removed from the default trust list. Do I agree that he should be removed from that list? Absolutely, Peoples opinions should not be allowed to be weighted as fact as a result of them doing business with someone like CITM in the past. Not just Nubbins, there are dozens and dozens of people on this forum who you can tell after just a few short minutes of browsing through their post history and sent feedback are clearly doing nothing more here than playing the game. Like farmville on Facebook but with trust points. The truth is, removing Nubbins from the default trust list only puts an end to a single gamer here and does not solve the problem. Sure, it would solve my problem, although most of the people he convinced to leave me negative feedback have already removed it and I went from a -618 rating to a -4 he is still one of those 4 that leave me @ -4. But it does not solve the bitcoin problem, it does not fix the problem that this forum has turned into an MMORPG where trust rating and feedback is a game, and the people or gamers who are playing it all carry around a false flag of “scam buster” a job once left to the people who had proven they could handle the responsibility like Tomatocage. In summary, the default trust system has turned a once great online knowledge base for all things bitcoin into an MMORPG where feedback is the currency and default trust is the way to game the system. People are entitled to their opinion, I am not against that in any way, but putting a system in place where someones opinion can be weighted because they have done business with a few people on a very short list makes this a game and a perfect place for sufferers of HPD to come to get the gratification they so desperately need like a drug. In case you have missed it, this forum now has more alt's than actual users. The actual users who use to make this place great have left as a result of this online gaming mentality and went to their own, private, invitation only discussion boards, and as a result the information that use to make bitcoin valuable is now being shared and hidden on private sites which hurts bitcoins growth as this forum is all that new comers are exposed to when they are thinking about giving bitcoin a try. Theymos has already made his millions from this forum, the only thing left for him to do is run away with them like everyone else. He no longer has to care about this forum, it would take less than $1,000 a month to keep this forum online 24/7/365 and he cant even spend the money for a mirror and take 5 minutes to edit the DNS server list to include it in the event that the main server goes down. You really think that he is just going to willingly take the time out of his day to step away from the trans gender sub reddit to address the problem that has arisen here? Not likely, not unless you, the respectable people of this forum petition him to do so. It wont be easy, we all know that what proceeds this original post will be hundreds if not thousands of posts by the HPD's and Gamers here to fight for their virtual popularity points that they have spent thousands of hours trying to game. But it is up to you, the ones who care about bitcoin, the ones who are here for knowledge and the sharing of information to take it upon yourself s to fight for change. To close: I would like to announce the beginning of the future of bitcoins community space. I have pledged along with the support of a handful of other community members $250,000usd towards the development of a new bitcoin community site of which development has started as of February 2nd . Estimated time frame for completion is 6 months and we will be making beta testing announcements within 3 months. More details will follow in the coming weeks. We are NOT taking donations, and are NOT looking for more developers. Our project is fully funded and fully staffed. In the mean time, those of you who really care about BCT.org beyond just being here to game should put a little effort into getting the default trust system removed and restoring this forum to a knowledge base as it has been in the past as it will be the only way this forum will survive through the summer if it does not go offline completely after Theymos runs away with your money for the new platform you will most likely never see. Let the gamers begin ::) Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: ACCTseller on February 06, 2015, 12:37:09 AM Another +1. Very well put. I dont know joehoe, but i agree totally about danny and deathandtaxes No offense buddy, but from the looks of it, you have the knowledge about the forum that vastly exceeds that of someone who has only been here a few months. This is especially true considering that you recently were posting multiple threads in the reputation section that happens to be against the rules. Are you sure that someone didn't buy your account from you? Maybe someone with a ulterior motive? Your writing style does seem to have changed. Haven't you heard .... Woodcollector went from not knowing what a bitcoin was 2 months ago to leading the New Forum Revolution so he can be the head scammer. I do not see him gaining anything by successfully being able to replace the trust system we currently have in place nor by removing CanaryInTheMine (although he could come back and pull off some other scam in the future). This leads me to believe that someone purchased his account in order to push his goal of removing the trust system. There is one person in particular who has been particularly vocal about wanting this. Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: WoodCollector on February 06, 2015, 12:37:42 AM Haven't you heard .... Woodcollector went from not knowing what a bitcoin was 2 months ago to leading the New Forum Revolution so he can be the head scammer.. :-* I almost fell out of my chair when i read that. Absolutely hilarious. You kids will walk out on any limb put before you to try and argue your moot points. This thread is about CITM and his abuse of the trust system. Nothing to do with the overall abuse of the trust system that takes palce every day. Keep going man, i might have to grab a bowl of popcorn myself this is getting better than the real world on MTV. Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: BG4 on February 06, 2015, 12:48:56 AM Haven't you heard .... Woodcollector went from not knowing what a bitcoin was 2 months ago to leading the New Forum Revolution so he can be the head scammer.. :-* I almost fell out of my chair when i read that. Absolutely hilarious. You kids will walk out on any limb put before you to try and argue your moot points. This thread is about CITM and his abuse of the trust system. Nothing to do with the overall abuse of the trust system that takes palce every day. Keep going man, i might have to grab a bowl of popcorn myself this is getting better than the real world on MTV. How can you carve a masterpiece wood carving and video tape it when your falling out of you lounge chair...... We are still waiting for the Video of the grand master woodcollector's fine detail work...... Every thread you Open ..no matter what the topic is..... It will always be about you trying to scam... So here I am ..... ..To catch you in the Act ....again..... with more of your Bull Shit..... ... .. . Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: WoodCollector on February 06, 2015, 02:06:38 AM How can you carve a masterpiece wood carving and video tape it when your falling out of you lounge chair...... We are still waiting for the Video of the grand master woodcollector's fine detail work...... Every thread you Open ..no matter what the topic is..... It will always be about you trying to scam... So here I am ..... ..To catch you in the Act ....again..... with more of your Bull Shit..... ... .. . It gets better with every post, never on topic and always like a 5 year old stomping their feet in a tantrum. More BG4 More !!!!!! Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: BadBear on February 06, 2015, 05:24:35 AM I'd rather expect people like joehoe, DannyHammilton or Death&Taxes be added to DefaultTrust, who are actually respected by the community and does not fight to hold their seat. Danny and Deathandtaxes only have DefaultTrust in their trust list, wouldn't be much point in adding them. It would just be a symbolic gesture. Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: hilariousandco on February 06, 2015, 06:57:59 AM You want theymos to moderate the trust system? LOL. The reason fake amounts of Bitcoin were used was far from the reason others have been removed from the default trust network. They were removed for abusing their "power" of being in the default trust network. CITM needs to prune his trust list to include less people with zero experience detecting scams. However he should not be removed because he gave feedback to someone who he thinks is a scammer. Your right, he should be removed for leaving a false amount on feedback for a transaction that never happened which is an abuse of power. But you'll never see that as you stand to lose rating on some of your alts if that happens. Thanks for your 2 satoshis, but you have already lost all credibility in my book. This is theymos's decision. He can either fix the system, moderate the system, or remove the system. or continue to be bombarded by requests and garbage every time someone in a position of power abuses it. If not just on principal alone, it behooves him to fix the problem to avoid his own frustration and wasted time. It's rare that people do abuse it, but usually when they do they get removed like your buddy tecshare so it can and does happen. Canary should remove the value in my opinion and if he doesn't maybe he will be removed. You think that I have lost my credibility because my opinion is different then yours? Saying things like that is a very quick way to lose credibility yourself. He's already lost any credibility he had so it isn't possible for him to lose any more. Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: WoodCollector on February 06, 2015, 02:30:21 PM What types of two words can we come up with to have an alternative meaning to WC? Wet Chocolate lol OMG that is great, like a 5 year old on the playground. "no, your the doo doo head" AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA Smoothie your pathetic. You guys make this too easy. Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: EFS on February 06, 2015, 02:32:58 PM OMG that is great, like a 5 year old on the playground. "no, your the doo doo head" AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA Smoothie your pathetic. You guys make this too easy. Says the guy who talk to trees. ::) Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: smoothie on February 06, 2015, 11:31:06 PM What types of two words can we come up with to have an alternative meaning to WC? Wet Chocolate lol OMG that is great, like a 5 year old on the playground. "no, your the doo doo head" AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA Smoothie your pathetic. You guys make this too easy. So funny that when I call you out on things that matter like you saying my coin artwork is copied OR that you are a coward because you choose to keep your identity hidden...YOU SAY NOTHING. As soon as I make a snide comment because this is just a clown thread you take that as if it is the only substance I have put out on this forum concerning you and your shady actions. LOL @ the guy who didn't have the respect to approach me and ask me if my artwork was original or not...given I did that with you to see if your work was lasered or not. Sure enough you have proven nothing to support your claims. Just like every other pathetic/lazy scammer out there....make claims you can't back up with irrefutable proof. ;D ;D ;D Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: WoodCollector on February 07, 2015, 01:27:11 AM so funny that when I call you out on things that matter like you saying my coin artwork is copied OR that you are a coward because you choose to keep your identity hidden...YOU SAY NOTHING. As soon as I make a snide comment because this is just a clown thread you take that as if it is the only substance I have put out on this forum concerning you and your shady actions. LOL @ the guy who didn't have the respect to approach me and ask me if my artwork was original or not...given I did that with you to see if your work was lasered or not. Sure enough you have proven nothing to support your claims. Just like every other pathetic/lazy scammer out there....make claims you can't back up with irrefutable proof. ;D ;D ;D Lets first cover the FACTS, then get this back on topic since this is the "CITM is abusing the trust system thread" not the "smoothie and friends want to have another temper tantrum to feel good about themselves thread" 1: There are all but maybe 6 or 7 people still whipping your dead horse. Maybe 8 or 9. Of that i am 100% certian that about 30% of those "people" are alts of your own band of idiots. 2: There are on any given day over a thousand active members on this forum Which means that 3: you and your very tiny band of whipper snappers constitute less than 1% of people on this forum. which further brings me to.... 4: you and your little degenerate band of kids are the MINORITY on this forum. I know this because 5: at least twice a day i get a P.M. from someone on this forum telling me about your little kids society and how you maintain to act in the very same fashion you are yet today, and that you idiots will attack any high profile body on this forum. Its the only reason your here, they were kind enough to point out all of your post history's as evidence that not one of you provide anything useful here. Which brings me to.... 6: some of the communities most prestigious members are now making their way onto my client roster Because 7: Ever since day 1, this whole charade started by nubbins then followed up by the usual suspects has been nothing more than 1 huge publicity campaign for me that i could have never even thought of on my own. I started as a pretty much anonymous virtual identity on BCT and thanks to the efforts of you, BG4, CITM, Nubbins, Jonald, and the rest of your degenerate clan. Today. I'M F#@KING FAMOUS and all over the web with my anonymous identity people who would have never found me in the bitcoin market have been lead right to me and its all thanks to you. Here's just one message of 7 i received today. Quote That gold leaf on the dark wood sure does look nice. I don't know a thing about wood carving, but one thing is pretty clear. You're making the nicest looking wood carved products on the forum. Straight from the mouth of a guy who one of the highest trusted members on this forum. Moving on to a message i got last weekend Quote Awesome job man, looking at your feedback page its like a who's who of immature children on this forum and you have managed to make them all look like morons. I'm a novice wood worker myself and would love to chat some time maybe get a few pointers from you. How much would you charge me to make a new set of handles for my chisel set out of something like purpleheart? That one from your video turned out beautiful. Keep them going, if they had not carried their antics over to reddit i would have never even known you were in the community. I stopped using this forum almost 6 months ago which starts to bring this to a close... 8: Prior to Nubbins starting his free marketing campaign for me, i was doing good to have made somewhere in the ballpark of around $40,000 in sales to bitcoin clients. Thats measuring from November when i made the first piece for Blazedout419 until January 19th when nubbins started in. Since mid January up to tonight i have made an additional $51,000 in sales. Thanks to you idiots i have made more in two and a half weeks then i could have done on my own in 3 months. that leads us to the ONLY thing all of you have been right about so far...... 9: for about the past 5 days now, i fully admit i am 100% guilty of trolling all of you into acting out like the kiddies you are. Some of my recent clients pointed out that if it was not for all of your infantile charades they themselves would have never found what i have to offer or ever new i was part of the bitcoin community as i had no idea how much of a community there was outside this forum and never would have thought to market myself in those other places as i didn't even know they existed. Those same new clients also pointed out that besides doing it for laughs (which i have gotten a lot of lately, i mean come on "wet chocolate"? hahahahaha) spending an hour or so a day antagonizing you and your fellow group of kids here on the forum was the easiest and best free marketing i could get in the community because although there are only a few of you, you all make a lot of noise all across bitcoin websites because it is by default your nature to seek out attention. That leads clients right to me, and anyone with a brain can take a look back through the circus act and see that i am 100% the man i say i am which leads to a sale. And finally.... 10: back on topic since only a few bodies seem to be able to read that have posted on the past 5 pages. This thread is about CITM's abuse of the feedback system. It had absolutely nothing to do with wood carving, wood, tools, wet chocolate, shapes, or species of wood. CITM has clearly shown on several occasions that he has a poor sense of judgment, and many times has abused the trust rating system, not saying he never saved anyone from getting ripped off or has not done a few really good things with his position, but his ratio of abuse to proper use is getting worse every day. If anything, this thread is another wakeup call for CITM. I could honestly give a shit if he is removed from the list, i know 100% for fact that i accomplished exactly what i set out to do with this thread as CITM stepped back, thought twice about his actions, then fixed them you will now notice he edited his feedback not to include the false 1,000 amount. My only goal was to open his eyes and maybe get him back on track like he use to be, and i feel i accomplished that. Truth is, the members who matter on this forum, we all set our own trust settings so we have a descent network of trust that does not get over run with garbage. Now, please feel free to carry on with your off topic rants about chocolate and wood and tools and whatever else. Although it was a giant headache in the beginning, this dog and pony show that nubbins started has been one of the best things that could have happened to me in the bitcoin space, it increased sales, increased visibility, and it only cost me a few days worth of time which were made up for by selling the things i made in those days. Now not only am i famous in the real world, i have a famous bitcoin identity too. Edit: i'll be back to stir the pot again tomorrow some time. Take your pop shots in the mean time if you must. While your at it, link your wittiest reply to the above on reddit, shout it out on your twitter and social media accounts, be sure it finds its way to CCT and LTBTC too. Thanks for the free marketing ;D Sad part is if you were not all children about it, i might have actually paid you for your services. One more edit: I sat back and had a laugh to myself and figured i would share it with all of you who are just following along for the laughs. The best part of it all is these guys dont even realize that nobody on this forum or in bitcoin in general takes them seriously or really even pays attention to them any more and they still spend hundreds of hours online fighting for that attention. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH ;D You cant even script comedy that good. Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: Bralex on February 07, 2015, 01:32:10 AM I feel the system is working alright and that it should be left that way but surely something can be done about people putting fake amounts in.
Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: fonenumba on February 07, 2015, 01:40:37 AM 8: Prior to Nubbins starting his free marketing campaign for me, i was doing good to have made somewhere in the ballpark of around $40,000 in sales to bitcoin clients. Thats measuring from November when i made the first piece for Blazedout419 until January 19th when nubbins started in. Since mid January up to tonight i have made an additional $51,000 in sales. Thanks to you idiots i have made more in two and a half weeks that i could have done on my own in 3 months. This is a lie. If it were true then you would very much not want to change the default trust system, nor have CanaryInTheMine removed from default trust because achieving these goals would hurt your business. If this were true then you would be advocating for these "mob" of people to continue their harassment against you so your business would further increase. The only issue with Canary's trust against you is the fact that he said that he risks 1,000 BTC when trading with you. You should at least attempt to work with him for him to edit his feedback to say he risked zero, however the fact that you are a scammer still remains Negative feedback left Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: WoodCollector on February 07, 2015, 01:41:16 AM I feel the system is working alright and that it should be left that way but surely something can be done about people putting fake amounts in. No, No, you are totally right buddy. The fix for the default trust system is already in place. Most of the members of this forum that matter are smart enough to use their own trust settings. You can edit them yourself and build your own trust network list. It's the Trust settings link on your trust page. The real problem is that the "default trust" list is the default setting and misleads a lot of new members into getting into the mix of kid games that goes on here. The only thing that really needs to be done is to prompt all new users to either "A" set their own settings or "B" use the predetermined list. A lot of newer members and even some older members who dont partake in buying things on this forum dont even know there is an option to build your own trust network here. Thats the only real problem. Fake amounts is kind of like a child stomping their feet during a temper tantrum, there is really nothing that can be done about it beyond calling them out after they do it you kind of just have to let them finish their fit first, which is what i did, and CITM was smart enough to step back and re-visit his decision and correct it. I could care less about the feedback itself, he is not on my list so i dont even see it unless i click the show untrusted feedback link. Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: fonenumba on February 07, 2015, 01:42:44 AM I feel the system is working alright and that it should be left that way but surely something can be done about people putting fake amounts in. No, No, you are totally right buddy. The fix for the default trust system is already in place. Most of the members of this forum that matter are smart enough to use their own trust settings. You can edit them yourself and build your own trust network list. It's the Trust settings link on your trust page. The real problem is that the "default trust" list is the default setting and misleads a lot of new members into getting into the mix of kid games that goes on here. The only thing that really needs to be done is to prompt all new users to either "A" set their own settings or "B" use the predetermined list. A lot of newer members and even some older members who dont partake in buying things on this forum dont even know there is an option to build your own trust network here. Thats the only real problem. Fake amounts is kind of like a child stomping their feet during a temper tantrum, there is really nothing that can be done about it beyond calling them out after they do it you kind of just have to let them finish their fit first, which is what i did, and CITM was smart enough to step back and re-visit his decision and correct it. I could care less about the feedback itself, he is not on my list so i dont even see it unless i click the show untrusted feedback link. Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: WoodCollector on February 07, 2015, 01:44:48 AM 8: Prior to Nubbins starting his free marketing campaign for me, i was doing good to have made somewhere in the ballpark of around $40,000 in sales to bitcoin clients. Thats measuring from November when i made the first piece for Blazedout419 until January 19th when nubbins started in. Since mid January up to tonight i have made an additional $51,000 in sales. Thanks to you idiots i have made more in two and a half weeks that i could have done on my own in 3 months. This is a lie. If it were true then you would very much not want to change the default trust system, nor have CanaryInTheMine removed from default trust because achieving these goals would hurt your business. If this were true then you would be advocating for these "mob" of people to continue their harassment against you so your business would further increase. The only issue with Canary's trust against you is the fact that he said that he risks 1,000 BTC when trading with you. You should at least attempt to work with him for him to edit his feedback to say he risked zero, however the fact that you are a scammer still remains Negative feedback left hey thanks, i appreciate that buddy, although the word is "LASER" which is the acronym for l.a.s.e.r which means "light amplified by a stimulated emission of radiation" I greatly appreciate the negative feedback, but would you mind fixing the typo? I might lose credibility if every kid that leaves me negative feedback shows that they are total idiots. Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: fonenumba on February 07, 2015, 01:51:45 AM 8: Prior to Nubbins starting his free marketing campaign for me, i was doing good to have made somewhere in the ballpark of around $40,000 in sales to bitcoin clients. Thats measuring from November when i made the first piece for Blazedout419 until January 19th when nubbins started in. Since mid January up to tonight i have made an additional $51,000 in sales. Thanks to you idiots i have made more in two and a half weeks that i could have done on my own in 3 months. This is a lie. If it were true then you would very much not want to change the default trust system, nor have CanaryInTheMine removed from default trust because achieving these goals would hurt your business. If this were true then you would be advocating for these "mob" of people to continue their harassment against you so your business would further increase. The only issue with Canary's trust against you is the fact that he said that he risks 1,000 BTC when trading with you. You should at least attempt to work with him for him to edit his feedback to say he risked zero, however the fact that you are a scammer still remains Negative feedback left hey thanks, i appreciate that buddy, although the word is "LASER" which is the acronym for l.a.s.e.r which means "light amplified by a stimulated emission of radiation" I greatly appreciate the negative feedback, but would you mind fixing the typo? I might lose credibility if every kid that leaves me negative feedback shows that they are total idiots. Why are you advocating for changes to the trust system if your negative trust is benefiting you so greatly? Why did not not first try to resolve your dispute with CITM via PM prior to bringing your dispute here? Are you TECHSHARE? Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: hedgy73 on February 07, 2015, 01:54:42 AM I must say that from an outsiders perspective your videos do seem a little amateurish and basic considering the complexity of your supposed carvings.
If I were you I'd try and provide proper evidence using video that you have actually done these carvings by hand. Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: WoodCollector on February 07, 2015, 02:03:06 AM ]Fixed, but why don't you address my concerns that I brought up above? Why are you advocating for changes to the trust system if your negative trust is benefiting you so greatly? Why did not not first try to resolve your dispute with CITM via PM prior to bringing your dispute here? Are you TECHSHARE? Totally my fault i didn't see that reply it seems to have slipped in while i was typing my reply. Quote Why are you advocating for changes to the trust system if your negative trust is benefiting you so greatly? The trust system in general is great, the only thing that makes it manageable is the ability to build your own trust networks and not use the default system. It is not the negative trust itself that is benefiting me directly, it is the little kids who keep leaving it and their undying demand to get attention which in doing so is great marketing for me. The problem with the system is there are a lot of people who dont even know that you can make your own trust network and just assume that the default trust list must be right when those who deal in the marketplace know that very often it is not. Quote Why did not not first try to resolve your dispute with CITM via PM prior to bringing your dispute here? You obviously don't have children do you? When little kids get on a tangent, stomping their feet or flailing their arms in the air, you cannot simply walk up to them and say "hey, your acting like an idiot and you look like a fool" Some of the best parenting books on the market will tell you that the absolute best thing you can do to settle a child like that down is to go get a mirror and let them see for themselves how they look when acting like that. ^ that is not an attempt at trolling you in case you were thinking that. You are entitled to your opinions and showed you are a little more respectable then the rest for the crowd by at least fixing the typo for me. The above was a serious and direct answer to your question, no sarcasm intended towards you. Quote Are you TECHSHARE? No, TECSHARE is just a client of mine, although unlike most of my other clients he has pretty thick skin and an ability to tolerate some of the idiots around here so he voices his opinions. I can see how you would think that though, i am willing to bet he has read some of the same parenting books i have as he too seems to be a big fan of the "holding a mirror in front of them" response. Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: WoodCollector on February 07, 2015, 02:07:30 AM I must say that from an outsiders perspective your videos do seem a little amateurish and basic considering the complexity of your supposed carvings. If I were you I'd try and provide proper evidence using video that you have actually done these carvings by hand. WOW, and were off topic again. You guys have the attention span of a gnat. This is the last off topic reply that i am responding to Quote If I were you I'd try and provide proper evidence using video that you have actually done these carvings by hand. If i were to do that, then there would not be much else the little kids that are doing the free marketing for me could use as their giant red bulls eye to get attention, then the free marketing would stop. I can only capitalize on that for so long as sooner or later someone else with a high profile is going to make their radar and they are going to go after them instead to fulfill their need for attention. There are a lot more videos then what are publicly posted on this forum at the moment. It is very much for the time being in my best interest to let the kids keep going. Scroll back up and see #9 Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: Blazr on February 07, 2015, 02:13:19 AM Nah he's not TECSHARE, I am sure of that there is plenty of evidence. There could be a connection though, maybe a family connection, but fuck it how are we supposed to know it's only speculation at this point, what does it matter really.
Doesn't really matter who the dude is, I think everyone has said everything that needs to be said at this point kinda pointless continuing arguing over it, it's not like WoodCollector is going to suddenly come and say "oh yeah I lied I lasered the shit out of everything" and it's even less likely the nubbins is going to come out and say "oh yeah I fucked up btw and was wrong about everything and take it all back, guy is legit". Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: hedgy73 on February 07, 2015, 02:17:24 AM I must say that from an outsiders perspective your videos do seem a little amateurish and basic considering the complexity of your supposed carvings. If I were you I'd try and provide proper evidence using video that you have actually done these carvings by hand. WOW, and were off topic again. You guys have the attention span of a gnat. This is the last off topic reply that i am responding to Quote If I were you I'd try and provide proper evidence using video that you have actually done these carvings by hand. If i were to do that, then there would not be much else the little kids that are doing the free marketing for me could use as their giant red bulls eye to get attention, then the free marketing would stop. I can only capitalize on that for so long as sooner or later someone else with a high profile is going to make their radar and they are going to go after them instead to fulfill their need for attention. There are a lot more videos then what are publicly posted on this forum at the moment. It is very much for the time being in my best interest to let the kids keep going. Scroll back up and see #9 You're defending your corner well. I'm still an outsider and yet to be convinced by your videos. Try and post some more showing intricate work that might help. I'm not against you by any means just trying to help you clear your name. Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: fonenumba on February 07, 2015, 02:18:05 AM ]Fixed, but why don't you address my concerns that I brought up above? Why are you advocating for changes to the trust system if your negative trust is benefiting you so greatly? Why did not not first try to resolve your dispute with CITM via PM prior to bringing your dispute here? Are you TECHSHARE? Totally my fault i didn't see that reply it seems to have slipped in while i was typing my reply. Quote Why are you advocating for changes to the trust system if your negative trust is benefiting you so greatly? The trust system in general is great, the only thing that makes it manageable is the ability to build your own trust networks and not use the default system. It is not the negative trust itself that is benefiting me directly, it is the little kids who keep leaving it and their undying demand to get attention which in doing so is great marketing for me. Quote Why did not not first try to resolve your dispute with CITM via PM prior to bringing your dispute here? You obviously don't have children do you? When little kids get on a tangent, stomping their feet or flailing their arms in the air, you cannot simply walk up to them and say "hey, your acting like an idiot and you look like a fool" Some of the best parenting books on the market will tell you that the absolute best thing you can do to settle a child like that down is to go get a mirror and let them see for themselves how they look when acting like that. ^ that is not an attempt at trolling you in case you were thinking that. You are entitled to your opinions and showed you are a little more respectable then the rest for the crowd by at least fixing the typo for me. The above was a serious and direct answer to your question, no sarcasm intended towards you. Quote Are you TECHSHARE? No, TECSHARE is just a client of mine, although unlike most of my other clients he has pretty thick skin and an ability to tolerate some of the idiots around here so he voices his opinions. I can see how you would think that though, i am willing to bet he has read some of the same parenting books i have as he too seems to be a big fan of the "holding a mirror in front of them" response. Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: smoothie on February 07, 2015, 03:10:37 AM Quote LARGE WALL OF TEXT ::) yes we all know you have a lot to say... Just nothing of substance to support your claims. Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: Quickseller on February 07, 2015, 03:24:53 AM I would like to chime in and say that, in my eyes, the fact that you are both claiming to have business increase 3 fold+ because of abuses in the default trust system and advocating to get someone removed from default trust that left you negative trust is pretty much an admission of guilt.
I would say that at first I was very skeptical about nubbins's claims against you. I honestly though that he was trying to engage in a smear campaign to help his business, and I even went as far to believe that he was potentially using "fake" shill accounts that were supporting you in order to make you look bad. I don't remember exactly when, however I eventually believed that you were probably a scammer, it likely had to do with the large amount of circumstantial evidence against you. Granted it was circumstantial, however it was a significant amount of it. When you posted your first video, I removed my negative trust because it at least was some evidence that showed you were in fact not a scammer, I even seriously considered buying your "fuck nubbins" piece. It was around this time that it was revealed by BadBear (who I trust) that you were giving yourself fake reviews by accounts that were likely controlled by you. Despite this, I left my negative trust off your account. When I was conversing with the person from the United Kingdom who was staying in Vietnam (I forget his username and do not care enough to go find it), I felt that his story was not believable enough so that it would be possible that you are legit. Granted he did somewhat prove that he was actually in Vietnam and he did have a British accent, however his claims were just too outrageous for me. This mixed with the fact that you were giving yourself fake reviews was enough so that I was willing to put negative trust back on your account. Some time later you claimed to have uploaded videos showing more of your process. By now I did not care enough about you to watch them, however acknowledging that the videos could have potentially exonerated you, I again removed my negative trust knowing that regardless of your trust level people would know how immature you are and negative trust or not, you would likely have a hard time attracting business. I honestly was tired of all your drama and did not want to participate in your dispute anymore. Now that you are making, what I consider to be almost a certain lie about your level of business, I find it very difficult to believe that you are potentially acting in an honest manner. The reason why you would want to boast about your fake amount of business is because it will potentially cause you to attract additional business that you would otherwise not get. I hope that you can recognize my ability to keep an open mind by the fact that I have gone back and forth so many times. To further respond to your complaint about CITM, you are not going to get him removed from default trust list (nor from being trusted by DefaultTrust). The reason is that his negative trust is not going to affect your ability to do business. His trust is only affecting you negatively on the margins, both by decreasing your overall trust score and saying that 1,000 BTC was risked. However him removing his trust is not going to allow you to have an easier time doing business in the future. If your goal is really getting him removed then you might as well lock this thread now because I can say with a good amount of certainty that will not happen. I was curious as to why you did not abandon your account once it was discovered that you were scamming, as this is what the overwhelming majority of scammers do. However your post that I am almost 100% certain that you are lying in (well beyond a reasonable doubt) explained it pretty well. You are not going to be able to create a new account (or buy a new account) and pull off the same scam again. Additionally "proving" your "innocence" will likely result in you being able continue you scam and likely making away with a lot of money, likely to the tune of well over six figures (in terms of US dollars). Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: Kialara on February 07, 2015, 06:51:41 AM WC, if you will hand carve another one of these (or one similar)
https://i.imgur.com/rPcHFTV.jpg and share with us a video of the carving process from start to finish, I will give you this 2011 Error Casascius coin as my apology. https://i.imgur.com/95Fr9a4.jpg You speak of the "blatant act of abuse of the default trust system" having never done business with CITM, yet you left me negative feedback and we've never transacted anything. Don't you think you're being hypocritical? Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: hilariousandco on February 07, 2015, 07:38:04 AM Surprise, surprise yet more lies from WoodCollector. He's only taking this Ha, I trolled you all route and claiming it's actually helped his business as his pathetic last ditch attempt at trying to come out the victor from the situation because it's his only option left to act like the winner and get people to shut up, which obviously won't work.
I must say that from an outsiders perspective your videos do seem a little amateurish and basic considering the complexity of your supposed carvings. If I were you I'd try and provide proper evidence using video that you have actually done these carvings by hand. There's obviously a good reason he hasn't provided any videos of him carving the coins - because he can't. He could have and still can end this whole situation if he just posted an adequate video displaying his world famous master craftsmanship, but instead he tries to fob people off with the minimal skills he has hoping they'd buy his amateur attempts as proof that he at least had the tools and skill to carve something, but all he proved was he can butcher a piece of wood like a teenager in woodwork class. His house of cards was flimsily set up from the start with all the lies he told and it doesn't take much for the whole thing to come crashing down when you create grandiose lie after lie. Now that you are making, what I consider to be almost a certain lie about your level of business, I find it very difficult to believe that you are potentially acting in an honest manner. The reason why you would want to boast about your fake amount of business is because it will potentially cause you to attract additional business that you would otherwise not get. I think it's more likely he's just trying to get people to shut up and leave him alone because if people think shit, I've actually increased his business then they'll drop the issue, but people here aren't as stupid as WoodCollector hopes they are. Oh, and Canary removed the figure amount from the feedback so I guess you can close the topic now. Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: smoothie on February 07, 2015, 08:08:50 AM WC, if you will hand carve another one of these (or one similar) https://i.imgur.com/rPcHFTV.jpg and share with us a video of the carving process from start to finish, I will give you this 2011 Error Casascius coin as my apology. https://i.imgur.com/95Fr9a4.jpg You speak of the "blatant act of abuse of the default trust system" having never done business with CITM, yet you left me negative feedback and we've never transacted anything. Don't you think you're being hypocritical? This is a pretty sweet deal ^. What do those series 1 coins go for...like 6 or 7BTC? That's like over $1200 easily you could resell the coin for. @Woodcollector are you going to back down on this offer? ::) Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: hedgy73 on February 07, 2015, 09:53:03 AM WC, if you will hand carve another one of these (or one similar) https://i.imgur.com/rPcHFTV.jpg and share with us a video of the carving process from start to finish, I will give you this 2011 Error Casascius coin as my apology. https://i.imgur.com/95Fr9a4.jpg You speak of the "blatant act of abuse of the default trust system" having never done business with CITM, yet you left me negative feedback and we've never transacted anything. Don't you think you're being hypocritical? This is a pretty sweet deal ^. What do those series 1 coins go for...like 6 or 7BTC? That's like over $1200 easily you could resell the coin for. @Woodcollector are you going to back down on this offer? ::) That is a sweet deal, nice one kialara :) Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: WoodCollector on February 07, 2015, 11:26:56 AM This is the last off topic reply that i am responding to Better start your own thread if you want replies to your off topic kid stuff. Not saying i wont play ball, you guys are quite entertaining, it just wont be on this thread. Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: hennessyhemp on February 07, 2015, 02:33:51 PM WC, if you will hand carve another one of these (or one similar) https://i.imgur.com/rPcHFTV.jpg and share with us a video of the carving process from start to finish, I will give you this 2011 Error Casascius coin as my apology. https://i.imgur.com/95Fr9a4.jpg You speak of the "blatant act of abuse of the default trust system" having never done business with CITM, yet you left me negative feedback and we've never transacted anything. Don't you think you're being hypocritical? Is that the Hindenburg? Nice touch. Boom Goes the Hydrogen. Kialara's calling you out WC. The funniest thing about all this, Smoothie's laser carving jokes have now got him orders for lasered wood carvings. Honesty will earn you BTC...Kialara just upped that ante. Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: smoothie on February 07, 2015, 08:15:43 PM This is the last off topic reply that i am responding to i won't address the fact that I just got called out by Kialara and his offer. I will run and continue to hide from questions and statements that will show I am full of BS. Okay ::) Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: TECSHARE on February 07, 2015, 10:02:09 PM WC, if you will hand carve another one of these (or one similar) and share with us a video of the carving process from start to finish, I will give you this 2011 Error Casascius coin as my apology. You speak of the "blatant act of abuse of the default trust system" having never done business with CITM, yet you left me negative feedback and we've never transacted anything. Don't you think you're being hypocritical? Is that the Hindenburg? Nice touch. Boom Goes the Hydrogen. Kialara's calling you out WC. The funniest thing about all this, Smoothie's laser carving jokes have now got him orders for lasered wood carvings. Honesty will earn you BTC...Kialara just upped that ante. Canaryinthemine is on the default trust, WC is not. There are much different standards for reputation left from anyone on the default trust. Canaryinthemine also has a long history of adding default trust abusers to his trust list. He also is refusing to remove Nubbins even though he replaced his negative trust rating for me because he didn't like the words I said about him. This is not an appropriate use of default trust, they should both be removed. Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: smoothie on February 07, 2015, 10:34:02 PM WC, if you will hand carve another one of these (or one similar) and share with us a video of the carving process from start to finish, I will give you this 2011 Error Casascius coin as my apology. You speak of the "blatant act of abuse of the default trust system" having never done business with CITM, yet you left me negative feedback and we've never transacted anything. Don't you think you're being hypocritical? Is that the Hindenburg? Nice touch. Boom Goes the Hydrogen. Kialara's calling you out WC. The funniest thing about all this, Smoothie's laser carving jokes have now got him orders for lasered wood carvings. Honesty will earn you BTC...Kialara just upped that ante. Canaryinthemine is on the default trust, WC is not. There are much different standards for reputation left from anyone on the default trust. Canaryinthemine also has a long history of adding default trust abusers to his trust list. He also is refusing to remove Nubbins even though he replaced his negative trust rating for me because he didn't like the words I said about him. This is not an appropriate use of default trust, they should both be removed. WC doesn't want to address Kialara's offer. Surprised? ::) I'm not... :D Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: WoodCollector on February 07, 2015, 11:23:37 PM WC doesn't want to address Kialara's offer. Surprised? ::) I'm not... :D Sorry, been a busy day working on pieces for clients. Too busy to check in and see what the kids are doing. Kialara, i have no use nor want for a metal coin. Just something else i have to try and sell amidst the dozens of other things i have going on. Make it $1,500 worth of bitcoin, put in escrow with OgNasty or Blazedout419 and your on. so long as IronMarvel agrees to let me make another piece with that face on it as it was his coin and an original design that I DREW FOR HIM and him alone. It will be done on video from start to finish everything short of cutting down the tree. Or for an extra $500 worth of bitcoin in escrow i will go buy a GoPro Hero 4 and stream the whole thing live from start to finish. If your not willing to fork up the funds, secured by escrow, publicly announced, and publicly stated in a separate thread that you accept this agreement. ( really tired of you dumb little shits that dont understand what ON TOPIC means) Then GTFO . That offer stands for anyone really not just Kialara. Otherwise STFU, i dont jump through hoops for the likes of your kind. Pay me, or move on. In the mean time, make your own thread for all this B.S. and someone message me the link, maybe i will spend some time over there trolling all of you until someone puts the funds in escrow. Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: BG4 on February 07, 2015, 11:41:22 PM WC doesn't want to address Kialara's offer. Surprised? ::) I'm not... :D Sorry, been a busy day working on pieces for clients. Too busy to check in and see what the kids are doing. Kialara, i have no use nor want for a metal coin. Just something else i have to try and sell amidst the dozens of other things i have going on. Make it $1,500 worth of bitcoin, put in escrow with OgNasty or Blazedout419 and your on. so long as IronMarvel agrees to let me make another piece with that face on it as it was his coin and an original design that I DREW FOR HIM and him alone. It will be done on video from start to finish everything short of cutting down the tree. Or for an extra $500 worth of bitcoin in escrow i will go buy a GoPro Hero 4 and stream the whole thing live from start to finish. If your not willing to fork up the funds, secured by escrow, publicly announced, and publicly stated in a separate thread that you accept this agreement. ( really tired of you dumb little shits that dont understand what ON TOPIC means) Then GTFO . That offer stands for anyone really not just Kialara. Otherwise STFU, i dont jump through hoops for the likes of your kind. Pay me, or move on. In the mean time, make your own thread for all this B.S. and someone message me the link, maybe i will spend some time over there trolling all of you until someone puts the funds in escrow. Hay...since business has been SO wonderful lately.....Why havent you given the 200$ back to Laserviking.... Surely 200$ is meaningless... to get that off your conscience... and from being labeled forever as a scammer.... and to be on topic...... leave Canaryinthemine on The Default Trust List Addition/ And has this charity raffle be refunded..... Feed the children with a bong raffle.... This was very poor judgement... you must have been stoned... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=902576.msg9916747#msg9916747 Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: smoothie on February 07, 2015, 11:46:45 PM WC doesn't want to address Kialara's offer. Surprised? ::) I'm not... :D Sorry, been a busy day working on pieces for clients. Too busy to check in and see what the kids are doing. Kialara, i have no use nor want for a metal coin. Just something else i have to try and sell amidst the dozens of other things i have going on. Make it $1,500 worth of bitcoin, put in escrow with OgNasty or Blazedout419 and your on. so long as IronMarvel agrees to let me make another piece with that face on it as it was his coin and an original design that I DREW FOR HIM and him alone. It will be done on video from start to finish everything short of cutting down the tree. Or for an extra $500 worth of bitcoin in escrow i will go buy a GoPro Hero 4 and stream the whole thing live from start to finish. If your not willing to fork up the funds, secured by escrow, publicly announced, and publicly stated in a separate thread that you accept this agreement. ( really tired of you dumb little shits that dont understand what ON TOPIC means) Then GTFO . That offer stands for anyone really not just Kialara. Otherwise STFU, i dont jump through hoops for the likes of your kind. Pay me, or move on. In the mean time, make your own thread for all this B.S. and someone message me the link, maybe i will spend some time over there trolling all of you until someone puts the funds in escrow. lol the funny thing about it is that you wouldn't have to try to sell it...there is a huge demand for series 1 CASCASCIUS error coins. But please play on. Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: smoothie on February 07, 2015, 11:51:51 PM WC doesn't want to address Kialara's offer. Surprised? ::) I'm not... :D Sorry, been a busy day working on pieces for clients. Too busy to check in and see what the kids are doing. Kialara, i have no use nor want for a metal coin. Just something else i have to try and sell amidst the dozens of other things i have going on. Make it $1,500 worth of bitcoin, put in escrow with OgNasty or Blazedout419 and your on. so long as IronMarvel agrees to let me make another piece with that face on it as it was his coin and an original design that I DREW FOR HIM and him alone. It will be done on video from start to finish everything short of cutting down the tree. Or for an extra $500 worth of bitcoin in escrow i will go buy a GoPro Hero 4 and stream the whole thing live from start to finish. If your not willing to fork up the funds, secured by escrow, publicly announced, and publicly stated in a separate thread that you accept this agreement. ( really tired of you dumb little shits that dont understand what ON TOPIC means) Then GTFO . That offer stands for anyone really not just Kialara. Otherwise STFU, i dont jump through hoops for the likes of your kind. Pay me, or move on. In the mean time, make your own thread for all this B.S. and someone message me the link, maybe i will spend some time over there trolling all of you until someone puts the funds in escrow. Hay...since business has been SO wonderful lately.....Why havent you given the 200$ back to Laserviking.... Surely 200$ is meaningless... to get that off your conscience... and from being labeled forever as a scammer.... and to be on topic...... leave Canaryinthemine on The Default Trust List Anyone who keeps $200 and is willing to let their rep go to shit is a scammer. CITM should stay on the DTL in my view. This is about WC attempting to get the attention off of his shady/scummy actions and on to other respected users of this forum. Just look at how quickly he was willing to throw both Kialara and I under the bus concerning the artwork on our products that we sell. ::) Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: BG4 on February 07, 2015, 11:58:07 PM WC doesn't want to address Kialara's offer. Surprised? ::) I'm not... :D Sorry, been a busy day working on pieces for clients. Too busy to check in and see what the kids are doing. Kialara, i have no use nor want for a metal coin. Just something else i have to try and sell amidst the dozens of other things i have going on. Make it $1,500 worth of bitcoin, put in escrow with OgNasty or Blazedout419 and your on. so long as IronMarvel agrees to let me make another piece with that face on it as it was his coin and an original design that I DREW FOR HIM and him alone. It will be done on video from start to finish everything short of cutting down the tree. Or for an extra $500 worth of bitcoin in escrow i will go buy a GoPro Hero 4 and stream the whole thing live from start to finish. If your not willing to fork up the funds, secured by escrow, publicly announced, and publicly stated in a separate thread that you accept this agreement. ( really tired of you dumb little shits that dont understand what ON TOPIC means) Then GTFO . That offer stands for anyone really not just Kialara. Otherwise STFU, i dont jump through hoops for the likes of your kind. Pay me, or move on. In the mean time, make your own thread for all this B.S. and someone message me the link, maybe i will spend some time over there trolling all of you until someone puts the funds in escrow. Hay...since business has been SO wonderful lately.....Why havent you given the 200$ back to Laserviking.... Surely 200$ is meaningless... to get that off your conscience... and from being labeled forever as a scammer.... and to be on topic...... leave Canaryinthemine on The Default Trust List Anyone who keeps $200 and is willing to let their rep go to shit is a scammer. CITM should stay on the DTL in my view. This is about WC attempting to get the attention off of his shady/scummy actions and on to other respected users of this forum. Just look at how quickly he was willing to throw both Kialara and I under the bus concerning the artwork on our products that we sell. ::) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=902576.msg9916747#msg9916747 Anyone willing to have a...... FEED THE CHILDREN BONG RAFFLE...... is a SCAMMER Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: BG4 on February 08, 2015, 12:03:48 AM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=902576.msg9916747#msg9916747 Anyone willing to have a...... FEED THE CHILDREN BONG RAFFLE...... is a SCAMMER Nubbins buddy !!!!! Welcome back to the party. Why dont you come join us on your main account? Think what you will... Others know who I am....and i'm not nubbins......LOL You how ever.. are a Scammer ... Title: Re: Request Removal of Canaryinthemine From The Default Trust List Post by: WoodCollector on February 08, 2015, 12:44:10 AM Here all you little kiddies go, it's time for daddy to go to bed but you can all go play over here until i wake up.
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