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Economy => Digital goods => Topic started by: motjemi on February 07, 2015, 05:51:10 PM



Title: Selling $100 target egift cards for $30 PayPal or BTC
Post by: motjemi on February 07, 2015, 05:51:10 PM
Selling $100 target e gift cards for $30 PayPal or btc. They can be used online on target.com or printed out and used in store. PM if interested.


Title: Re: Selling $100 target egift cards for $30 PayPal or BTC
Post by: Rmcdermott927 on February 07, 2015, 07:20:32 PM
How many do you have?   Very interested.


Title: Re: Selling $100 target egift cards for $30 PayPal or BTC
Post by: kashish948 on February 07, 2015, 07:31:03 PM
PMed.


Title: Re: Selling $100 target egift cards for $30 PayPal or BTC
Post by: elephantas1 on February 07, 2015, 07:52:02 PM
how did you get those and why do you sell it so cheap? are they acquired somehow with hacking


Title: Re: Selling $100 target egift cards for $30 PayPal or BTC
Post by: Rmcdermott927 on February 07, 2015, 10:04:20 PM
Paid for 5.  Will update.


Title: Re: Selling $100 target egift cards for $30 PayPal or BTC
Post by: motjemi on February 07, 2015, 11:38:57 PM
Paid for 5.  Will update.
Sent cards, thank you


Title: Re: Selling $100 target egift cards for $30 PayPal or BTC
Post by: Rmcdermott927 on February 08, 2015, 12:03:17 AM
Paid for 5.  Will update.
Sent cards, thank you

No, you didnt.  Where are they?


Title: Re: Selling $100 target egift cards for $30 PayPal or BTC
Post by: Rmcdermott927 on February 08, 2015, 12:04:56 AM
Seller never sent cards for the record and claims he did.  Opening paypal dispute now.


Title: Re: Selling $100 target egift cards for $30 PayPal or BTC
Post by: ibrahim11 on February 08, 2015, 12:59:58 AM
Seller never sent cards for the record and claims he did.  Opening paypal dispute now.
He is trying to sell me some after I asked him about them. Lucky that I came back to this thread


Title: Re: Selling $100 target egift cards for $30 PayPal or BTC
Post by: Rmcdermott927 on February 08, 2015, 01:04:05 AM
Seller never sent cards for the record and claims he did.  Opening paypal dispute now.
He is trying to sell me some after I asked him about them. Lucky that I came back to this thread

hopefully no one else sends him anything.


Title: Re: Selling $100 target egift cards for $30 PayPal or BTC
Post by: johnwayne88 on February 08, 2015, 01:32:42 AM
glad i didny buy any yet


Title: Re: Selling $100 target egift cards for $30 PayPal or BTC
Post by: ajw7989 on February 08, 2015, 01:56:49 AM
why is anyone buying without escrow from a newbie. Ill buy if OP either sends first or uses escrow


Title: Re: Selling $100 target egift cards for $30 PayPal or BTC
Post by: Rmcdermott927 on February 08, 2015, 01:59:18 AM
why is anyone buying without escrow from a newbie. Ill buy if OP either sends first or uses escrow

I used PayPal.  A dispute has been filed.


Title: Re: Selling $100 target egift cards for $30 PayPal or BTC
Post by: kashish948 on February 08, 2015, 04:40:21 AM
why is anyone buying without escrow from a newbie. Ill buy if OP either sends first or uses escrow

I used PayPal.  A dispute has been filed.

Good you didnt use BTC.


Title: Re: Selling $100 target egift cards for $30 PayPal or BTC
Post by: BTCreward on February 08, 2015, 05:34:07 AM
why is anyone buying without escrow from a newbie. Ill buy if OP either sends first or uses escrow

I used PayPal.  A dispute has been filed.
Even if you file a dispute it is not a guarantee that you will win. And even if you win it is not a guarantee that this person cannot launder the funds prior to PP reversing the funds.

Friendly piece of advice.....next time use escrow


Title: Re: Selling $100 target egift cards for $30 PayPal or BTC
Post by: Gyfts on February 08, 2015, 06:20:21 AM
why is anyone buying without escrow from a newbie. Ill buy if OP either sends first or uses escrow

I used PayPal.  A dispute has been filed.

PayPal does not cover virtual goods in their "Buyer's Protection" policy. Something scammers and frauds take advantage of. If you can slide on the fact you paid for a Target digital gift card, you will possibly get your money back. If you point attention to the fact is a digital good, PayPal will close your case and award the seller with the money. PayPal is tricky, and should never be used to sell things because of it's security defects.


Title: Re: Selling $100 target egift cards for $30 PayPal or BTC
Post by: Dangc on February 08, 2015, 06:49:57 AM
highly interest if not a scammers. Waiting to see the outcome of other buyer.


Title: Re: Selling $100 target egift cards for $30 PayPal or BTC
Post by: Just Magicmann on February 08, 2015, 08:21:09 AM
As a Target team member, I'm just throwing it out there that there's about a 0.001% chance these cards were obtained legally if they even do exist.


Title: Re: Selling $100 target egift cards for $30 PayPal or BTC
Post by: Rmcdermott927 on February 08, 2015, 01:54:58 PM
highly interest if not a scammers. Waiting to see the outcome of other buyer.

He is a scammer.  read the above posts.


Title: Re: Selling $100 target egift cards for $30 PayPal or BTC
Post by: johnwayne88 on February 08, 2015, 05:01:22 PM
highly interest if not a scammers. Waiting to see the outcome of other buyer.

hes admitted that hes a scammer


Title: Re: Selling $100 target egift cards for $30 PayPal or BTC
Post by: MisteredF on February 08, 2015, 05:18:24 PM

PayPal does not cover virtual goods in their "Buyer's Protection" policy. Something scammers and frauds take advantage of. If you can slide on the fact you paid for a Target digital gift card, you will possibly get your money back. If you point attention to the fact is a digital good, PayPal will close your case and award the seller with the money. PayPal is tricky, and should never be used to sell things because of it's security defects.

Actually they have for me a number of times (once for a SB scam from here and twice from SB gift cards purchased on eBay).  Of course YMMV but maybe it's because I have been selling & buying using PayPal for well over 20 years and rarely had problems.  I believe there is no SELLER protection for digital goods but BUYERS are still covered.


Title: Re: Selling $100 target egift cards for $30 PayPal or BTC
Post by: damiano on February 08, 2015, 05:39:50 PM
If you paid via CC from paypal your better off charging back through them (if indeed you were scammed)


Title: Re: Selling $100 target egift cards for $30 PayPal or BTC
Post by: MisteredF on February 08, 2015, 08:04:44 PM
If you paid via CC from paypal your better off charging back through them (if indeed you were scammed)


That works too but the only problem with that is if the CC company approves the chargeback (they do less often than you may think on "non-tangible" items) it puts your PayPal account into a negative balance and it might be shut down or worse send you to collections.  If that isn't important than it's not a problem but PayPal has been known to try and collect negative balances from a CC reversal as well as ding your credit.


Title: Re: Selling $100 target egift cards for $30 PayPal or BTC
Post by: Gyfts on February 08, 2015, 08:15:14 PM

PayPal does not cover virtual goods in their "Buyer's Protection" policy. Something scammers and frauds take advantage of. If you can slide on the fact you paid for a Target digital gift card, you will possibly get your money back. If you point attention to the fact is a digital good, PayPal will close your case and award the seller with the money. PayPal is tricky, and should never be used to sell things because of it's security defects.

Actually they have for me a number of times (once for a SB scam from here and twice from SB gift cards purchased on eBay).  Of course YMMV but maybe it's because I have been selling & buying using PayPal for well over 20 years and rarely had problems.  I believe there is no SELLER protection for digital goods but BUYERS are still covered.

PayPal will cover pretty much any site. Ebay included. In their policy, https://www.paypal.com/webapps/mpp/security/buyer-protection they don't cover digital items between people's transactions. Perhaps Ebay shopping is better, or Bitcoin and an escrow. 


Title: Re: Selling $100 target egift cards for $30 PayPal or BTC
Post by: BTCreward on February 08, 2015, 08:48:37 PM
why is anyone buying without escrow from a newbie. Ill buy if OP either sends first or uses escrow

I used PayPal.  A dispute has been filed.

PayPal does not cover virtual goods in their "Buyer's Protection" policy. Something scammers and frauds take advantage of. If you can slide on the fact you paid for a Target digital gift card, you will possibly get your money back. If you point attention to the fact is a digital good, PayPal will close your case and award the seller with the money. PayPal is tricky, and should never be used to sell things because of it's security defects.
Another thing that scammers take advantage of is claim that they were purchasing physical goods when in fact they were not (when they are filing disputes). On the other hand a person who was scammed via paypal will be forced to lie in order to recover their money. Long story short, using paypal is never safe to use


Title: Re: Selling $100 target egift cards for $30 PayPal or BTC
Post by: MisteredF on February 08, 2015, 10:41:38 PM

PayPal does not cover virtual goods in their "Buyer's Protection" policy. Something scammers and frauds take advantage of. If you can slide on the fact you paid for a Target digital gift card, you will possibly get your money back. If you point attention to the fact is a digital good, PayPal will close your case and award the seller with the money. PayPal is tricky, and should never be used to sell things because of it's security defects.

Actually they have for me a number of times (once for a SB scam from here and twice from SB gift cards purchased on eBay).  Of course YMMV but maybe it's because I have been selling & buying using PayPal for well over 20 years and rarely had problems.  I believe there is no SELLER protection for digital goods but BUYERS are still covered.

PayPal will cover pretty much any site. Ebay included. In their policy, https://www.paypal.com/webapps/mpp/security/buyer-protection they don't cover digital items between people's transactions. Perhaps Ebay shopping is better, or Bitcoin and an escrow.  

Interesting because PayPal recently paid my claim against seller Dikisu from here who I sent $25 for SB card (1/2 up front bal on receipt) but he never delivered.  I also had one for a $150 eBay SB card purchase that I never got and they paid that without question.  This was last summer.  I told them exactly what I purchased. No problem collecting.  As I said, it could be because I have been with them for over 20 years with very few claims.  There are also many phony claims against LEGIT SELLERS as well by a scamming buyer trying to get free stuff which is why I assume they are selective in their refunds of digital goods.  If the seller doesn't respond to the filed complaint of the buyer they will pay out. If the seller disputes the buyers complaint it might be a different result.  Over the years my business has easily run over $1,000,000 through eBay so it is possible I am treated a little different.