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Title: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: BitCoinNutJob on February 10, 2015, 11:19:01 AM
Getting tons of these things, usually a person asking for someone who doesnt live at the address.   They care little that they've disturbed you, who are these people that take a job calling people like this?

Anyway, whats the best way to deafen them? im thinking speak really quiet to suck them in and then shout really loud or use some device to send a large sound down the phone mic.  Maybe they wont call again?


Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: Balthazar on February 10, 2015, 11:24:59 AM
I've got these calls many times but then noticed one thing... At the beginning of conversation they were always asking me do I have any realitives working in the marketing sphere or not. And these calls stopped completely when I answered "yes" to this question.


Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: BitCoinNutJob on February 10, 2015, 11:40:06 AM
I've got these calls many times but then noticed one thing... At the beginning of conversation they were always asking me do I have any realitives working in the marketing sphere or not. And these calls stopped completely when I answered "yes" to this question.


I dont get that, wish i did.  I get hello is Mr whoever there or Mrs whoever, its normally asking for the same name person, yet i say they dont live here and a different company will call the next day asking for same name.


Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: Balthazar on February 10, 2015, 11:57:04 AM
It seems that somebody accidentally added your number to shared contacts list... Maybe typo or something like that. Try googling your number with some variations in combination with this name, maybe you'll find this guy and his partners... If he's not a fictional character of course.

Another options are changing the number or using the blacklist feature to prevent these unwanted calls.


Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: bf4btc on February 10, 2015, 12:03:26 PM
Hey

You will have to contact you're call provider and they will surely help you may have to pay a little extra but for the price it will be worth it.

Every time you apply for something online there is usually a small box near accept terms and conditions which allows them to give to 3rd parties etc

If it is normally the same name they ask for chances are that person/persons have used you're address to apply for something from said address  ??? 


Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: Lethn on February 10, 2015, 12:11:48 PM
If it's a home phone that you're talking about then just unplug it, telemarketers and the like take advantage of the fact these things normally don't have any blacklist or spam filter of any kind which is why they use them the most and not mobile phones, when I move out that's going to be the first thing I'll do if I can get my own place lol.


Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: saddampbuh on February 10, 2015, 12:16:01 PM
by not answering the telephone, i haven't for years


Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: cryptocoiner on February 10, 2015, 12:26:25 PM
Getting tons of these things, usually a person asking for someone who doesnt live at the address.   They care little that they've disturbed you, who are these people that take a job calling people like this?

Anyway, whats the best way to deafen them? im thinking speak really quiet to suck them in and then shout really loud or use some device to send a large sound down the phone mic.  Maybe they wont call again?

Change the phone number. =))


Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: sgk on February 10, 2015, 12:31:31 PM
Getting tons of these things, usually a person asking for someone who doesnt live at the address.   They care little that they've disturbed you, who are these people that take a job calling people like this?

Anyway, whats the best way to deafen them? im thinking speak really quiet to suck them in and then shout really loud or use some device to send a large sound down the phone mic.  Maybe they wont call again?

Which country you live in? Some countries have a system called 'DND' (Do Not Disturb) or something along those lines.

Basically you register your phone number with this and marketing calls stop.
If you still get a marketing call, you can file a complaint through free SMS and their connection gets disconnected.

Some countries provide this service for free, some charge a little.

EDIT:
Here's example for India: http://ndnc.net/


Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: BADecker on February 10, 2015, 01:08:17 PM
Can phones be programmed to stop "spam" calls? If they can't, why not? We have all kinds of email spam controls. We can even set the levels of spam control on some email clients. Why isn't this feature a thing that is standard on all phones?

Would you be worried about missing calls from friends or business if that feature was available? Program their number into your phone as accept-all-calls. You can do this with email clients.

Is there some kind of conspiracy with the phone companies that has made this a kind of thing that isn't readily available nationwide, maybe worldwide?

:)


Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: BitCoinNutJob on February 10, 2015, 01:10:38 PM
Getting tons of these things, usually a person asking for someone who doesnt live at the address.   They care little that they've disturbed you, who are these people that take a job calling people like this?

Anyway, whats the best way to deafen them? im thinking speak really quiet to suck them in and then shout really loud or use some device to send a large sound down the phone mic.  Maybe they wont call again?

Which country you live in? Some countries have a system called 'DND' (Do Not Disturb) or something along those lines.

Basically you register your phone number with this and marketing calls stop.
If you still get a marketing call, you can file a complaint through free SMS and their connection gets disconnected.

Some countries provide this service for free, some charge a little.

EDIT:
Here's example for India: http://ndnc.net/


UK and from speaking to a few other people in UK they get the same type of thing.  Ive changed my number in the past, it doesnt seem to hold the marketing off for long.  With BT fwiw.  

Not answering the phone works 90% time sure but sometimes i need to answer.


Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: BitCoinNutJob on February 10, 2015, 01:12:36 PM

Is there some kind of conspiracy with the phone companies that has made this a kind of thing that isn't readily available nationwide, maybe worldwide?

:)

Im wondering if BT sell off our phone numbers tbh.  It must be a very succesful form of marketing to scam older people who see the landline phone as cutting edge technology & cant live without it.


Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: Lethn on February 10, 2015, 01:20:00 PM

Is there some kind of conspiracy with the phone companies that has made this a kind of thing that isn't readily available nationwide, maybe worldwide?

:)

Im wondering if BT sell off our phone numbers tbh.  It must be a very succesful form of marketing to scam older people who see the landline phone as cutting edge technology & cant live without it.

It's not just BT lots of corporations sell off the information of people who sign up to their services, makes extra money for them, awhile back in the UK there was a whole thing about it.


Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: BitCoinNutJob on February 10, 2015, 01:28:16 PM

Is there some kind of conspiracy with the phone companies that has made this a kind of thing that isn't readily available nationwide, maybe worldwide?

:)

Im wondering if BT sell off our phone numbers tbh.  It must be a very succesful form of marketing to scam older people who see the landline phone as cutting edge technology & cant live without it.

It's not just BT lots of corporations sell off the information of people who sign up to their services, makes extra money for them, awhile back in the UK there was a whole thing about it.

Im waiting for mobile internet to be solid enough that i can run my business and stream video then the landline is gone for good. Last time checked mobile internet still sucks?


Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: Elwar on February 10, 2015, 01:29:58 PM
Curious...why do you still have a land line?


Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: BitCoinNutJob on February 10, 2015, 01:39:10 PM
Curious...why do you still have a land line?

I want to ditch it, all i need is the internet, what set up do i need?   or you mean just unplug the phone?


Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: MsCollec on February 10, 2015, 01:41:56 PM
I think there's a paid service that removes your phone number from marketers calling list.


Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: BitCoinNutJob on February 10, 2015, 01:47:15 PM
I think there's a paid service that removes your phone number from marketers calling list.

oh so like a protection racket hehe.



Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: Balthazar on February 10, 2015, 01:59:48 PM
Can phones be programmed to stop "spam" calls? If they can't, why not? We have all kinds of email spam controls. We can even set the levels of spam control on some email clients. Why isn't this feature a thing that is standard on all phones?

Oh, c'mon. :D Those phones providing no blacklist feature because they're usually too cheap. But nothing stops you from buying Android-based device which would be capable to do so.

I can't imagine why would somebody buy high-end or middle-end smartphone while still using $10 crap as landline phone.


Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: Elwar on February 10, 2015, 02:03:20 PM
Curious...why do you still have a land line?

I want to ditch it, all i need is the internet, what set up do i need?   or you mean just unplug the phone?

Ahh, so you use the phone line for Internet?

I'm just saying, most people just use their cell phone as the main line. You could just unplug it.


Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: aigeezer on February 10, 2015, 02:10:19 PM
I think there's a paid service that removes your phone number from marketers calling list.

oh so like a protection racket hehe.



In Canada the federal government set up a Do Not Call list with great fanfare. Needless to say, marketers ignore it. In the last election a mini-scandal erupted because the governing party allegedly made robocalls to people who were known supporters of the opposition - calls telling them their polling station had been moved to the other side of town, for example.

I never - ever - pick up a landline phone without looking at call display. I rarely pick one up at all.

A relevant joke, if you have read this far:

Professor Pavlov was working alone in his lab late at night.
Suddenly the phone rings.
Startled, he blurts out: Damn - I forgot to feed the dog!



Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: BitCoinNutJob on February 10, 2015, 02:15:18 PM
Curious...why do you still have a land line?

I want to ditch it, all i need is the internet, what set up do i need?   or you mean just unplug the phone?

Ahh, so you use the phone line for Internet?

I'm just saying, most people just use their cell phone as the main line. You could just unplug it.

Phone line is used for internet and for my mum to call lol, also the mrs to call out to her mum, thats all the manditory things we need it for.  I could unplug and tell my mum to call my mobile.

Still cant wait for better mobile broadband service, BT is a rip off, always mess with the prices.  Lose connection regulaly also.


Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: NeuroticFish on February 10, 2015, 02:34:20 PM
I've had this problem with the home number: I ended that contract.
I've had this problem with the mobile phone too. But my smartphone (samsung) had/has the option to add a contact to a reject list.
After a month or two all their numbers were added to that contact and the spamming stopped.


Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: Snail2 on February 10, 2015, 02:35:02 PM
Changed phone number first later ended my contract and switched to Virgin broadband only package. No phone = no unwanted calls. BTW I have my mobile if I want to call or want to be called :).


Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: Baghead on February 10, 2015, 02:38:27 PM
Tell them it is being recorded and you are going to get them done for harassment or just threaten them telling them the good old saying from taken, you will find them and you will.....


Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: BitCoinNutJob on February 10, 2015, 02:39:50 PM
Changed phone number first later ended my contract and switched to Virgin broadband only package. No phone = no unwanted calls. BTW I have my mobile if I want to call or want to be called :).

you need a BT landline for the virgin broadband only package right? how good is the virgin internet service?


Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: BitCoinNutJob on February 10, 2015, 02:44:25 PM
Tell them it is being recorded and you are going to get them done for harassment or just threaten them telling them the good old saying from taken, you will find them and you will.....

I think if not careful you just provide them entertainment if you do that:

Today a guy rang and i said i was the chinese takeaway (accent included), 2 minutes later the same guy rang back asking for the chinese takeaway... no lie - couldnt believe that.

Another time im saying fuck off down the phone multiple times, the guy kept saying can you speak up a bit i cant hear you - he got me good then i'll give him that.

Who takes these jobs? i almost feel bad for these workers.


Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: Snail2 on February 10, 2015, 03:53:01 PM
Changed phone number first later ended my contract and switched to Virgin broadband only package. No phone = no unwanted calls. BTW I have my mobile if I want to call or want to be called :).

you need a BT landline for the virgin broadband only package right? how good is the virgin internet service?

If you can get a cable connection you don't need BT landline. Unfortunately they have a bit limited coverage.
The internet service is quite good (but the support is useless as usual).


Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: Spendulus on February 10, 2015, 04:36:32 PM
Curious...why do you still have a land line?

I want to ditch it, all i need is the internet, what set up do i need?   or you mean just unplug the phone?

Ahh, so you use the phone line for Internet?

I'm just saying, most people just use their cell phone as the main line. You could just unplug it.

Break the ringer.


Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: RodeoX on February 10, 2015, 04:42:27 PM
My favorites!

Answer the phone and pretend to be...

A senile old person who loves to talk on the phone.

A two year old who does not know how to talk on the phone, or get Mommy, or hang up.

A religious zealot who can't wait to spread the word.


Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: qwk on February 10, 2015, 04:55:31 PM
Anyway, whats the best way to deafen them? im thinking speak really quiet to suck them in and then shout really loud or use some device to send a large sound down the phone mic.  Maybe they wont call again?
For a very long time now, I've been planning to setup a computer with voice recognition software and hook that up to a random chat room on the interwebs. The answers would be returned via text-to-speech.
I would then put the marketing callers through to my "answering bot" and record the conversation.

Unfortunately, I never made it happen. ::)


Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: Wilikon on February 10, 2015, 05:14:07 PM
Getting tons of these things, usually a person asking for someone who doesnt live at the address.   They care little that they've disturbed you, who are these people that take a job calling people like this?

Anyway, whats the best way to deafen them? im thinking speak really quiet to suck them in and then shout really loud or use some device to send a large sound down the phone mic.  Maybe they wont call again?


Tell them: "Your call is important to us, please hold..." Then you stick your phone near your speakers and play this. Loud enough so they can't pick up anything else for a few minutes, then you hang up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNuZIZOya78




Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: BitCoinNutJob on February 10, 2015, 05:41:14 PM
Changed phone number first later ended my contract and switched to Virgin broadband only package. No phone = no unwanted calls. BTW I have my mobile if I want to call or want to be called :).

you need a BT landline for the virgin broadband only package right? how good is the virgin internet service?

If you can get a cable connection you don't need BT landline. Unfortunately they have a bit limited coverage.
The internet service is quite good (but the support is useless as usual).

probably wont work for me im already living a bit in the sticks, stuck with BT :(


Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: BitCoinNutJob on February 10, 2015, 05:45:14 PM
My favorites!

Answer the phone and pretend to be...

A senile old person who loves to talk on the phone.

A two year old who does not know how to talk on the phone, or get Mommy, or hang up.

A religious zealot who can't wait to spread the word.

the little kid one is good, pretend to be a little kid and then change to the parent and acuse the caller of being a paedo.

Anyway, whats the best way to deafen them? im thinking speak really quiet to suck them in and then shout really loud or use some device to send a large sound down the phone mic.  Maybe they wont call again?
For a very long time now, I've been planning to setup a computer with voice recognition software and hook that up to a random chat room on the interwebs. The answers would be returned via text-to-speech.
I would then put the marketing callers through to my "answering bot" and record the conversation.

Unfortunately, I never made it happen. ::)

lol pretty good idea.

Getting tons of these things, usually a person asking for someone who doesnt live at the address.   They care little that they've disturbed you, who are these people that take a job calling people like this?

Anyway, whats the best way to deafen them? im thinking speak really quiet to suck them in and then shout really loud or use some device to send a large sound down the phone mic.  Maybe they wont call again?


Tell them: "Your call is important to us, please hold..." Then you stick your phone near your speakers and play this. Loud enough so they can't pick up anything else for a few minutes, then you hang up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNuZIZOya78




lol, the trick might be to speak quiet to sucker them closer to the headset or turn it up.


Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: Wilikon on February 10, 2015, 06:13:20 PM
My favorites!

Answer the phone and pretend to be...

A senile old person who loves to talk on the phone.

A two year old who does not know how to talk on the phone, or get Mommy, or hang up.

A religious zealot who can't wait to spread the word.

the little kid one is good, pretend to be a little kid and then change to the parent and acuse the caller of being a paedo.

Anyway, whats the best way to deafen them? im thinking speak really quiet to suck them in and then shout really loud or use some device to send a large sound down the phone mic.  Maybe they wont call again?
For a very long time now, I've been planning to setup a computer with voice recognition software and hook that up to a random chat room on the interwebs. The answers would be returned via text-to-speech.
I would then put the marketing callers through to my "answering bot" and record the conversation.

Unfortunately, I never made it happen. ::)

lol pretty good idea.

Getting tons of these things, usually a person asking for someone who doesnt live at the address.   They care little that they've disturbed you, who are these people that take a job calling people like this?

Anyway, whats the best way to deafen them? im thinking speak really quiet to suck them in and then shout really loud or use some device to send a large sound down the phone mic.  Maybe they wont call again?


Tell them: "Your call is important to us, please hold..." Then you stick your phone near your speakers and play this. Loud enough so they can't pick up anything else for a few minutes, then you hang up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNuZIZOya78




lol, the trick might be to speak quiet to sucker them closer to the headset or turn it up.


You do not want to play their game. Just say those words, play the music and leave for a few minutes. Any music will do as long as you do not talk to them. You want a robot to talk to another robot. They don't care anyway and you'll reverse a stressful useless phone call into an opportunity for relaxation with soothing music...




Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: pedrog on February 10, 2015, 06:20:51 PM
Ask them where did they get that phone number, request they don't call you again and hang up. :)


Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: (oYo) on February 10, 2015, 09:11:11 PM
Telemarketers are the sole reason why I haven't had a landline phone for at least 15 years now. My cell phone is my "home phone" now and I don't get those calls anymore.
A telemarketer called me once about subscribing to a newspaper. I told them I can't read. Their answer was, well if you get the paper you can learn. *facepalm*


Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: Baghead on February 10, 2015, 10:43:31 PM
Tell them it is being recorded and you are going to get them done for harassment or just threaten them telling them the good old saying from taken, you will find them and you will.....

I think if not careful you just provide them entertainment if you do that:

Today a guy rang and i said i was the chinese takeaway (accent included), 2 minutes later the same guy rang back asking for the chinese takeaway... no lie - couldnt believe that.

Another time im saying fuck off down the phone multiple times, the guy kept saying can you speak up a bit i cant hear you - he got me good then i'll give him that.

Who takes these jobs? i almost feel bad for these workers.

Aha quite possibly another thing i would try is to answer let them speak once you know that's them, start heavy breathing and making strange sex noises and keep it up until they hang up.

It sounds like someone is playing games with you does it not?

Have you seen the numbers are they legit takeaways etc?

Another time im saying fuck off down the phone multiple times, the guy kept saying can you speak up a bit i cant hear you - he got me good then i'll give him that.

Ahahaha that made me laugh  ;D



Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: Spendulus on February 10, 2015, 11:23:51 PM
Tell them it is being recorded and you are going to get them done for harassment or just threaten them telling them the good old saying from taken, you will find them and you will.....

I think if not careful you just provide them entertainment if you do that:

Today a guy rang and i said i was the chinese takeaway (accent included), 2 minutes later the same guy rang back asking for the chinese takeaway... no lie - couldnt believe that.

Another time im saying fuck off down the phone multiple times, the guy kept saying can you speak up a bit i cant hear you - he got me good then i'll give him that.

Who takes these jobs? i almost feel bad for these workers.

Aha quite possibly another thing i would try is to answer let them speak once you know that's them, start heavy breathing and making strange sex noises and keep it up until they hang up.

It sounds like someone is playing games with you does it not?

Have you seen the numbers are they legit takeaways etc?

Another time im saying fuck off down the phone multiple times, the guy kept saying can you speak up a bit i cant hear you - he got me good then i'll give him that.

Ahahaha that made me laugh  ;D


How about answering, "NSA, this call is being recorded.  Start."


Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on February 10, 2015, 11:37:18 PM
by not answering the telephone, i haven't for years

That or if its an automated service
Stay silent and it hangs up  ;D

Honestly all you can do is keep ignoring it till they think the number is out of service or not used or try to get unsubscribed if it has some sort of listing based on what you purchased over the last few years etc.


Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: tss on February 11, 2015, 03:06:43 AM
i know either coinbase or circle sold my info to american express.  i got an application to the misspelled name i gave only circle and coinbase.


Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: BitCoinNutJob on February 11, 2015, 09:52:22 AM
Tell them it is being recorded and you are going to get them done for harassment or just threaten them telling them the good old saying from taken, you will find them and you will.....

I think if not careful you just provide them entertainment if you do that:

Today a guy rang and i said i was the chinese takeaway (accent included), 2 minutes later the same guy rang back asking for the chinese takeaway... no lie - couldnt believe that.

Another time im saying fuck off down the phone multiple times, the guy kept saying can you speak up a bit i cant hear you - he got me good then i'll give him that.

Who takes these jobs? i almost feel bad for these workers.

Aha quite possibly another thing i would try is to answer let them speak once you know that's them, start heavy breathing and making strange sex noises and keep it up until they hang up.

It sounds like someone is playing games with you does it not?

Have you seen the numbers are they legit takeaways etc?

Another time im saying fuck off down the phone multiple times, the guy kept saying can you speak up a bit i cant hear you - he got me good then i'll give him that.

Ahahaha that made me laugh  ;D


How about answering, "NSA, this call is being recorded.  Start."


This classic always cracks me up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGsMjmTzeS4

Not sure if its fake but its funny either way.


Title: Re: How to stop marketing calls ? idea?
Post by: cryptocoiner on February 11, 2015, 05:30:49 PM
Curious...why do you still have a land line?

I want to ditch it, all i need is the internet, what set up do i need?   or you mean just unplug the phone?

That's correct. Unplug the phone and stop paying for it. Having wired phone today is ridiculous.