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This is ridiculous! Look at all these fucking scamming ponzi sites. They need their own section of the forum and anyone who wants to 'invest' in them can mull them all over and choose. All genuine gambling sites just get flooded out.

its nonsens to make section for this SCAM game mate :)

It's nonsense not to imo this is beyond the joke!

I agree OP +1

I think you should put this in Meta section,admin and mods always check that section everytime.And there is same thread which already discuss this matter.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=937350.0

I hope the moderators can ban those ponzi scams, it is too sick to see those shit ads everyday on the Gamble section. :'(

there are dozen of threads about the new ponzie section in gambling. Check meta.

So far the answer seems to be no

The word Ponzi should be banned from the forum lol

Yeah, and everyone will call it p0nzi lol.

It seems that the forum will never have a new subforum for the ponzi schemes, maybe because a future users can "hide" it and it would be difficult to determine if a new site is running a ponzi scheme or not. I think the staff work is not to ban the various ponzi schemes, but only ban the spammers.

It would be nice to have a subsection for ponzi based games in the Gambling section.

Creating an extra sub forum would be good and will actually do no harm. Right now the trend is luckily decreasing. As more people avoid trying these ponzis out, the faster the owners will stop makign 100's of sites everyday

LOL yes we should also add a money laundering section too because "ponzi" is not that bad.  :D

Add extortion, blackmail, and prostitution as well  ;D ;D

Can we have a ponzi section request thread added to meta?   :D

Mods need to ban them, not have a ponzi section.

Ha-ha that one is a new spin on an old ponzi request
Theymos did mention ages ago some sort of proposal to define them
Not sure when he will get around to implementing it though

Some people already raising this idea, but most likely there won't be ponzi section
It's better to move ponzi thread to Trashcan / Dangerous investment section

Instead of making a ponzi section , there should be some kind of report as ponzi or whatever , and mods could just delete the thread i dont see why a ponzi section would be neccesary.

The problem is : the various ponzi schemes are not against the forum rules, why do you think the staff members should delete them ?

Actually it's not about against the rules.. It's about people's fate when attracted by ponzi... and boom! It's gone!

I vouch for this only because Ponzi threads are being advertised in the 'Games and Rounds' section and it is hard to conduct a giveaway or to find one. But, like redsn0w said, people may start to hide 'Ponzi' if it is created.


You are wrong! It's about people's greed!

   -MZ

I agree with the banning. Isn't it proven to be a scam?

It's indeed getting ridiculous. One even had ponzi in his name, and still got people scammed!

Yes, but the staff members don't ban the scammers (it is not against the rules).

I think ponzi should have it's section, but there are special rules in that section :
1. Only member rank or better can access & reply in ponzi section
2. Only full member rank or better can make a thread
3. Make a sticky thread about ponzi & the risks

I'm sure this will be effective

Maybe change the forum rules then ? i hate seeing people getting scammed from these ponzi schemes , and there's no reason at all not to remove them.

The problem what I think is 'if we start removing ponzis, we will have to remove so-called-cloud-mining'. If we start removing cloud mining, we will have to investigate on each and every companies which is hard IMHO. So its better to be untouched.

Ponzi sub-forum can't be added but atleast a red warning in 'Games and Rounds' like in 'Long-term offers' about the risks would be helpful.

   -MZ

Ponzis seem to slow down for a day or two and then they overwhelm the section again with a new kind of ponzi. There are more than ever in the Gambling section right now.

Wasn't Theymos thinking of adding a "hyip section"?

I agree and just add a red warning "use these sites at your own risk, only invest what you can lose"

then people can "gamble" if they wish and others will be safer.

Also maybe sticky a guide to spot out right scams and teach people about how they work (launch, build trust, then close and the trick is finding one that last more than a few days)

A ponzi section would be amazing.

You want to promote a scam?  This is what hurts bitcoin.

We should ban everything related to ponzi, I cant believe people are still being tricked into doubling their coins.

It is a straight scam ran by a few dif guys over and over and they get a few of you each time.

There is a 90% chance you will never see your coins again.

Many play because they think they can get out before they are scammed. Doubt it will go well for most but it's their choice. I've got nothing against creating a ponzi section, but banning it all is harder to do. As others said if ponzies are banned then we have to ban cloud mining, etc.

Promoters/early investors don't look 'how it is for others?', they want to earn some BTCBTCBTC through referrals. :-\ Glady, almost all of the ponzis in this forum don't have referring system.


Creating a 'Ponzi' sub-board means we are encouraging Ponzi and I am fully agains it. Gambling section fits for ponzis.


You are probably right! But we can ban cloud mining with no proof of mining(mining-farm, mined blocks etc..) easily.

   -MZ

i agree for Ponzi section/subsection here in the forum, but they must have a pinned post explaining what is a ponzi so that new users can keep away themselves from the risk of ponzi ;)

here you go:

• Ponzi affiliated sites are not endorsed nor recommended by this forum, its staff, or by any sane person.
  
• Being a part of ponzi related thread,site or activity you are both victim and a scammer yourself, since all ponzi's are a scam, and you are hoping to "earn" other peoples money.
  
• If you are joining anyway, you here agree not to cry and whine when you loose your bitcoins/rent moey/babys college fund etc.
  

hope this helps anyone misguided about the issue.
cheers

I am little sad that people on bitcoin forum need to be reminded what ponzi scheme. If you are user of this forum and you seek to invest some money in it I would assume that you have some really basic knowledge of economy. But I guess warning people over and over again could help. Also Ponzi only subforum is a must in my humble opinion. There are too many ponzis running around lately they need to be caged there. 

Done.

I think to solve the ponzi problem as well as the hyip problem we should have a ponzi/hyip program section under gambing. They generally are the same thing and better to keep it out of the gambling section

I think it would be a good idea to add a stickied thread explaining the risks behind these types of investments.

They were in the regular gambling section. They were spamming up the gambling section so much that there have been 5+ threads in meta complaining about all the ponzi spam in gambling. Hell, even now more then 50% of the first page in gambling is threads by moderators saying they moved the ponzi threads to the ponzi section.

This means that the ponzis are not going to spam the gambling section where people want to go to have fun and be able to play games that are actually fair

Finally the forum have a hyip/pyramid/ponzu scheme forum section, well done ! I didn't think we will never have it but I was wrong.

Nice to finally have the 'Investor Based Games' section!

Me too! :o


Hope the 'PONZI' title won't disappear from thread. Won't we have to move fake cloud mining, i.e., no proof of mining, to this section?

   -MZ

Now I think the OP (BrannigansLaw) can lock the thread, search the lock button in the bottom left of the page.



Ps: finally a "ponzi" forum section, but I still suggest you to not invest in them  ;).

Thank you so much. We can now focus on game improvement rather than fighting with people about whether a Ponzi Game is a SCAM by definition or NOT.

Ponzi isn't scam by definition but theoretically and practically, it is! It is 100% not a game.


+1. Nobody listen till they scold others for their loose! I recently read a person complaining about creation of Bitcoin by Satoshi as it made them loose BTC. ;D

   -MZ

Good job theymos , you could rename it to "Scamming games" too you know . since that's what it is .
At least they will leave the other sections alone now .
~ Madness

Thank you Theymos. The difference in the Gambling section is already noticeable.

I still think we should ban the ponzis after mods create a section for them. They are not good for the community.

Agreed. They aren't good for the community but as long as ponzis are legal in a country, it is unlikely to be banned from the site.

i think ponzi should be banned, adding a separate section will be like encouraging them

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=207.0

Looks good.

Some people may claim to ban gambling as well as they are all unlicensed. There is no point doing moral policing. Let the market decide its own destiny...

There already is one, the trash can.

Oh Excellent work guys! I shall indeed lock the thread now.