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Title: I was told to pay 0.07BTC to create an account here
Post by: VodPonzis Lawyer on February 12, 2015, 03:00:18 AM
http://s8.postimg.org/qj8kty8id/omgfee.png

0.07BTC?! thats not what I would call a small fee.

and I made another account and got it down to 0.011BTC, but still... DAFUQ?


Title: Re: I was told to pay 0.07BTC to create an account here
Post by: Quickseller on February 12, 2015, 03:28:33 AM
You probably have been banned many times if you have that many units of evil


Title: Re: I was told to pay 0.07BTC to create an account here
Post by: VodPonzis Lawyer on February 12, 2015, 03:33:47 AM
You probably have been banned many times if you have that many units of evil

I was using Tor. Changing exit nodes didn't change the fee. I had to make another account, and that one cost 0.011BTC, which I ended up paying but is still way too much. There is no way accounts should cost this much, there should be a fixed fee for registering from a Tor exit node if this was caused by a large number of people being banned.


Title: Re: I was told to pay 0.07BTC to create an account here
Post by: comExtern on February 12, 2015, 03:35:50 AM
Last week registration was not even possible through tor. Bitcoind was down they said.

Time for another forum?


Title: Re: I was told to pay 0.07BTC to create an account here
Post by: Quickseller on February 12, 2015, 03:36:35 AM
You probably have been banned many times if you have that many units of evil

I was using Tor. Changing exit nodes didn't change the fee. I had to make another account, and that one cost 0.011BTC, which I ended up paying but is still way too much. There is no way accounts should cost this much, there should be a fixed fee for registering from a Tor exit node if this was caused by a large number of people being banned.
If you are really an attorney then there is no reason for you to use tor to sign up because your identity has already been established by your "letter" to theymos


Title: Re: I was told to pay 0.07BTC to create an account here
Post by: theymos on February 12, 2015, 05:50:00 AM
That does seem a bit high. I'll have to look into whether the algorithm is working as expected. Maybe it isn't decaying fast enough. Though if tons of Tor users have been getting banned recently, a high fee is supposed to (temporarily) apply.

If bitcoind is ever down, email that pbbugs address and I'll whitelist you for free.


Title: Re: I was told to pay 0.07BTC to create an account here
Post by: The Bad Guy on February 12, 2015, 06:21:40 AM
Probably not of my business theymos , but he probably don't deserve it . Looking at the first 9 letters of his name "VodPonzis" , I will say that I've seen him before doing "not so good" on the forums .


Title: Re: I was told to pay 0.07BTC to create an account here
Post by: grendel25 on February 12, 2015, 07:11:39 AM
wow, never seen or heard of that before.  But actually, it's only like $15 at current rates?  This website is worth that to be functional as a member in here.


Title: Re: I was told to pay 0.07BTC to create an account here
Post by: lophie on February 12, 2015, 07:25:33 AM
I have used Tor Before around here and I noticed that there are some actions that I cannot do when I am connected through Tor. But I never heard of such penalty or whatever  :-\. Is this like a new thing around here and what would a person do to deserve such bann?  ???

I used to troll alot around here. I even pissed off gmaxwell at some point  ;D. I did not get any "bann" or whatever. However some of my posts were "deleted by admins".


Title: Re: I was told to pay 0.07BTC to create an account here
Post by: bitparadise on February 12, 2015, 08:00:07 AM
I have used Tor Before around here and I noticed that there are some actions that I cannot do when I am connected through Tor. But I never heard of such penalty or whatever  :-\. Is this like a new thing around here and what would a person do to deserve such bann?  ???

I used to troll alot around here. I even pissed off gmaxwell at some point  ;D. I did not get any "bann" or whatever. However some of my posts were "deleted by admins".

You only need to pay when you register an account on ip's that is use by banned accounts before.


Title: Re: I was told to pay 0.07BTC to create an account here
Post by: comExtern on February 12, 2015, 09:57:31 AM
That does seem a bit high. I'll have to look into whether the algorithm is working as expected. Maybe it isn't decaying fast enough. Though if tons of Tor users have been getting banned recently, a high fee is supposed to (temporarily) apply.

If bitcoind is ever down, email that pbbugs address and I'll whitelist you for free.
That pbbugs address does not appear when bitcoind is offline!



Title: Re: I was told to pay 0.07BTC to create an account here
Post by: Lethn on February 12, 2015, 10:59:48 AM
Uh.... Why not just make an account with a normal connection and then enable Tor afterwards instead of trying to create several accounts through Tor? Or perhaps use a VPN I haven't heard of people having trouble with that on this forum. Your story sounds pretty dodgy to be honest if you're triggering something like that, I've never had any problems with this site that you're describing and I've been here almost 2 years now.


Title: Re: I was told to pay 0.07BTC to create an account here
Post by: ranochigo on February 12, 2015, 12:37:46 PM
Uh.... Why not just make an account with a normal connection and then enable Tor afterwards instead of trying to create several accounts through Tor? Or perhaps use a VPN I haven't heard of people having trouble with that on this forum. Your story sounds pretty dodgy to be honest if you're triggering something like that, I've never had any problems with this site that you're describing and I've been here almost 2 years now.
There are people who want to have anonymity on the internet to prevent being tracked. If you create an account anywhere, your IP is likely to be tracked. Most people are just paranoid though, they can just buy a VPN/VPS and create an account using it.


Title: Re: I was told to pay 0.07BTC to create an account here
Post by: Arnab biswas on February 12, 2015, 12:48:52 PM
I have used Tor Before around here and I noticed that there are some actions that I cannot do when I am connected through Tor. But I never heard of such penalty or whatever  :-\. Is this like a new thing around here and what would a person do to deserve such bann?  ???

I used to troll alot around here. I even pissed off gmaxwell at some point  ;D. I did not get any "bann" or whatever. However some of my posts were "deleted by admins".

You only need to pay when you register an account on ip's that is use by banned accounts before.
did here accounts got bannd too :o


Title: Re: I was told to pay 0.07BTC to create an account here
Post by: DLCseller on February 19, 2015, 03:43:12 AM
http://s8.postimg.org/qj8kty8id/omgfee.png

0.07BTC?! thats not what I would call a small fee.

and I made another account and got it down to 0.011BTC, but still... DAFUQ?

What the heck? Used for evil purpose?

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/002/250/what_the_fuck_am_I_reading.png


Title: Re: I was told to pay 0.07BTC to create an account here
Post by: shorena on February 19, 2015, 08:15:51 AM
-snip-
What the heck? Used for evil purpose entertainment?

https://i.imgur.com/5GlRIh.jpg

FTFY

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=953003.0


Title: Re: I was told to pay 0.07BTC to create an account here
Post by: avw1982 on February 19, 2015, 08:19:57 AM
Last week registration was not even possible through tor. Bitcoind was down they said.

Time for another forum?

You can't find a other great forum about Bitcoin as this one.


Title: Re: I was told to pay 0.07BTC to create an account here
Post by: HeroC on February 19, 2015, 02:36:17 PM
Even for a troll, that is high. Theymos said he is looking into it.


Title: Re: I was told to pay 0.07BTC to create an account here
Post by: ranochigo on February 19, 2015, 02:41:02 PM
Last week registration was not even possible through tor. Bitcoind was down they said.

Time for another forum?

You can't find a other great forum about Bitcoin as this one.
Agree, this is one of the earliest forum available and is full of valuable and knowledgeable members. A few downtimes shouldn't make users leave.


Title: Re: I was told to pay 0.07BTC to create an account here
Post by: erre on February 19, 2015, 02:48:43 PM
I found the part about not directly giving your address to faucets fishy as hell...The most probable outcome is u will never be able to enterely pay the fee


Title: Re: I was told to pay 0.07BTC to create an account here
Post by: picolo on February 19, 2015, 04:38:53 PM
You probably have been banned many times if you have that many units of evil

I was using Tor. Changing exit nodes didn't change the fee. I had to make another account, and that one cost 0.011BTC, which I ended up paying but is still way too much. There is no way accounts should cost this much, there should be a fixed fee for registering from a Tor exit node if this was caused by a large number of people being banned.

Did you use Tor to make the one that costed 0.011?

0.07 is a lot to pay to create an account since you could buy a Member or Full Member for this price but to buy it you need an account to contact the owner  ;)


Title: Re: I was told to pay 0.07BTC to create an account here
Post by: Bizmark13 on February 19, 2015, 06:15:57 PM
I found the part about not directly giving your address to faucets fishy as hell...The most probable outcome is u will never be able to enterely pay the fee

I'm curious to know what sites they link to for getting "free bitcoins". If it's just faucets, then obtaining enough to pay the 0.07 BTC fee would take months, if not years. Last week, I was able to earn just little over 10 cents using Freebitco.in despite using it pretty much 24/7. According to Preev, 0.07 BTC is currently worth $17.


Title: Re: I was told to pay 0.07BTC to create an account here
Post by: Mist on February 20, 2015, 04:27:24 AM
That is a insane amount of UOE. On the other hand, I odn't want him around either... so.


Title: Re: I was told to pay 0.07BTC to create an account here
Post by: theymos on February 20, 2015, 05:48:32 AM
I think that the system was working basically as expected, but I made an adjustment which will reduce evil accumulation in some cases.

I'm curious to know what sites they link to for getting "free bitcoins". If it's just faucets, then obtaining enough to pay the 0.07 BTC fee would take months, if not years.

It links to this topic:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=74046.0

There are only 75 IPs in the database that can by themselves cause a fee requirement of more than 0.01 BTC, and 19 above 0.05 BTC. Fees are often very small. See the inputs of these transactions, for example:
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/f01405a1b0b0350d1217a2471aac65378fcc7c73b0488ae59a66c963f02480e9
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/6109d4c7d4f6d5c7abb867b21aeeaa45289ff7045a4d5e244ba6370c246493ca

(It was my intention when originally designing the system that 1 unit of evil would require about an hour of work and about a day of waiting to get the fee via faucet sites, but it's probably easier than that now.)


Title: Re: I was told to pay 0.07BTC to create an account here
Post by: picolo on February 20, 2015, 09:40:15 AM
I think that the system was working basically as expected, but I made an adjustment which will reduce evil accumulation in some cases.

I'm curious to know what sites they link to for getting "free bitcoins". If it's just faucets, then obtaining enough to pay the 0.07 BTC fee would take months, if not years.

It links to this topic:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=74046.0

There are only 75 IPs in the database that can by themselves cause a fee requirement of more than 0.01 BTC, and 19 above 0.05 BTC. Fees are often very small. See the inputs of these transactions, for example:
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/f01405a1b0b0350d1217a2471aac65378fcc7c73b0488ae59a66c963f02480e9
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/6109d4c7d4f6d5c7abb867b21aeeaa45289ff7045a4d5e244ba6370c246493ca

(It was my intention when originally designing the system that 1 unit of evil would require about an hour of work and about a day of waiting to get the fee via faucet sites, but it's probably easier than that now.)

At least it is a bit expensive to be a scammer but a scammer could just register from a public wifi or an internet shop and not pay any fee.


Title: Re: I was told to pay 0.07BTC to create an account here
Post by: BitMos on February 20, 2015, 11:40:09 AM
You probably have been banned many times if you have that many units of evil

I was using Tor. Changing exit nodes didn't change the fee. I had to make another account, and that one cost 0.011BTC, which I ended up paying but is still way too much. There is no way accounts should cost this much, there should be a fixed fee for registering from a Tor exit node if this was caused by a large number of people being banned.

+1

I think that the system was working basically as expected, but I made an adjustment which will reduce evil accumulation in some cases.

I'm curious to know what sites they link to for getting "free bitcoins". If it's just faucets, then obtaining enough to pay the 0.07 BTC fee would take months, if not years.

It links to this topic:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=74046.0

There are only 75 IPs in the database that can by themselves cause a fee requirement of more than 0.01 BTC, and 19 above 0.05 BTC. Fees are often very small. See the inputs of these transactions, for example:
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/f01405a1b0b0350d1217a2471aac65378fcc7c73b0488ae59a66c963f02480e9
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/6109d4c7d4f6d5c7abb867b21aeeaa45289ff7045a4d5e244ba6370c246493ca

(It was my intention when originally designing the system that 1 unit of evil would require about an hour of work and about a day of waiting to get the fee via faucet sites, but it's probably easier than that now.)

But I will support what ever theymos does, why? because it's the GREATEST FORUM ON THE INTERNET. thx again.