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Title: Reporting posts Post by: MadGamer on February 13, 2015, 05:06:28 PM Want to know , how exactly the report system works ?
Let's say you have 100% on your reports , then you report another one it stays 100% , couple of hours later it becomes 99% , the only explanation I got is that Moderators or staff should confirm if the report is right or wrong ? that's it ? Another question , any page to see Top reporters on the forum ? I've seen a log with top reporters I guess posted by BadBear or someone else Title: Re: Reporting posts Post by: Grand_Voyageur on February 13, 2015, 05:16:13 PM Want to know , how exactly the report system works ? Let's say you have 100% on your reports , then you report another one it stays 100% , couple of hours later it becomes 99% , the only explanation I got is that Moderators or staff should confirm if the report is right or wrong ? that's it ? Another question , any page to see Top reporters on the forum ? I've seen a log with top reporters I guess posted by BadBear or someone else Yes, it is. Eal F. Skillz said here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=951241.msg10414335#msg10414335) before. I'm not sure, however if an updated list is around. I think theymos or staff need to download it from server. Title: Re: Reporting posts Post by: MadGamer on February 13, 2015, 05:19:59 PM Want to know , how exactly the report system works ? Let's say you have 100% on your reports , then you report another one it stays 100% , couple of hours later it becomes 99% , the only explanation I got is that Moderators or staff should confirm if the report is right or wrong ? that's it ? Another question , any page to see Top reporters on the forum ? I've seen a log with top reporters I guess posted by BadBear or someone else Yes, it is. Eal F. Skillz said here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=951241.msg10414335#msg10414335) before. I'm not sure, however if an updated list is around. I think theymos or staff need to download it from server. Alright , I see thank you . I would like to see a list of top reporters if that's possible ? I've seen last time that hilarious (staff member) is the first on the list . Title: Re: Reporting posts Post by: juraj1301 on February 13, 2015, 05:20:45 PM Want to know , how exactly the report system works ? moderators first check if is report true,right?Let's say you have 100% on your reports , then you report another one it stays 100% , couple of hours later it becomes 99% , the only explanation I got is that Moderators or staff should confirm if the report is right or wrong ? that's it ? Another question , any page to see Top reporters on the forum ? I've seen a log with top reporters I guess posted by BadBear or someone else Title: Re: Reporting posts Post by: MadGamer on February 13, 2015, 05:23:50 PM Want to know , how exactly the report system works ? moderators first check if is report true,right?Let's say you have 100% on your reports , then you report another one it stays 100% , couple of hours later it becomes 99% , the only explanation I got is that Moderators or staff should confirm if the report is right or wrong ? that's it ? Another question , any page to see Top reporters on the forum ? I've seen a log with top reporters I guess posted by BadBear or someone else Well yes , check the link that Grand_Voyageur just provided . it's linked to an answer of a staff member Title: Re: Reporting posts Post by: shorena on February 13, 2015, 08:33:07 PM -snip- Alright , I see thank you . I would like to see a list of top reporters if that's possible ? I've seen last time that hilarious (staff member) is the first on the list . Its possible as seen here[1] and I among others have asked several times now to get an update, but apparently the admins that are able to give an update have other priorities. [1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=624427.msg7763245#msg7763245 Title: Re: Reporting posts Post by: BadBear on February 13, 2015, 09:14:06 PM Let's say you have 100% on your reports , then you report another one it stays 100% , couple of hours later it becomes 99% I haven't looked at your reports, but based on what you've said, it stayed 100% because it hadn't been marked as a bad report yet, sometimes in the next couple hours it was. Number of reports updates immmediately, accuracy doesn't update until the report is handled. Title: Re: Reporting posts Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 14, 2015, 10:45:47 AM Let's say you have 100% on your reports , then you report another one it stays 100% , couple of hours later it becomes 99% I haven't looked at your reports, but based on what you've said, it stayed 100% because it hadn't been marked as a bad report yet, sometimes in the next couple hours it was. Number of reports updates immmediately, accuracy doesn't update until the report is handled. I don't know if anyone has suggested already(sorry if yes). It would be helpful if we can see a detailed stats of our reports(one by one) or atleast a summary-like: Quote Number of reported post : 123 -MZ Title: Re: Reporting posts Post by: Welsh on February 14, 2015, 12:15:14 PM Yes, it is. Eal F. Skillz said here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=951241.msg10414335#msg10414335) before. I'm not sure, however if an updated list is around. I think theymos or staff need to download it from server. Only Theymos can get that information. I should imagine he's too busy at the moment to do it too. He's had a few requests by numerous people, probably the people who have high reports and want to boast their ego. :DTitle: Re: Reporting posts Post by: MadGamer on February 14, 2015, 12:26:08 PM Let's say you have 100% on your reports , then you report another one it stays 100% , couple of hours later it becomes 99% I haven't looked at your reports, but based on what you've said, it stayed 100% because it hadn't been marked as a bad report yet, sometimes in the next couple hours it was. Number of reports updates immmediately, accuracy doesn't update until the report is handled. Thanks for your reply , my reports are 100% since sometime so I guess they are good reports , I was just asking to know how the reports system works on the forums. Let's say you have 100% on your reports , then you report another one it stays 100% , couple of hours later it becomes 99% I haven't looked at your reports, but based on what you've said, it stayed 100% because it hadn't been marked as a bad report yet, sometimes in the next couple hours it was. Number of reports updates immmediately, accuracy doesn't update until the report is handled. I don't know if anyone has suggested already(sorry if yes). It would be helpful if we can see a detailed stats of our reports(one by one) or atleast a summary-like: Quote Number of reported post : 123 -MZ Pretty good idea indeed , totally agree . Yes, it is. Eal F. Skillz said here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=951241.msg10414335#msg10414335) before. I'm not sure, however if an updated list is around. I think theymos or staff need to download it from server. Only Theymos can get that information. I should imagine he's too busy at the moment to do it too. He's had a few requests by numerous people, probably the people who have high reports and want to boast their ego. :DWell that's sad to be honest , it would've be nice if they add this feature on the new forum software . could be really useful . as we can see top Posters , we should see top reporters also Title: Re: Reporting posts Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 14, 2015, 12:27:33 PM Yes, it is. Eal F. Skillz said here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=951241.msg10414335#msg10414335) before. I'm not sure, however if an updated list is around. I think theymos or staff need to download it from server. Only Theymos can get that information. I should imagine he's too busy at the moment to do it too. He's had a few requests by numerous people, probably the people who have high reports and want to boast their ego. :DI think BadBear and maybe Stefan Thomas can also get that information. I think he is busy building new forum. -MZ Title: Re: Reporting posts Post by: MadGamer on February 14, 2015, 12:28:50 PM Yes, it is. Eal F. Skillz said here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=951241.msg10414335#msg10414335) before. I'm not sure, however if an updated list is around. I think theymos or staff need to download it from server. Only Theymos can get that information. I should imagine he's too busy at the moment to do it too. He's had a few requests by numerous people, probably the people who have high reports and want to boast their ego. :DI think BadBear and maybe Stefan Thomas can also get that information. I think he is busy building new forum. -MZ What , who is Stefan Thomas As far as I know there is only couple of developpers on the forums which are making the new forum software and this name isn't one of them Title: Re: Reporting posts Post by: Welsh on February 14, 2015, 12:30:51 PM I think BadBear and maybe Stefan Thomas can also get that information. I think he is busy building new forum. -MZ If I'm understanding BadBear's response (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=925534.msg10165471#msg10165471) correctly he can't. I can see all of a user's reports, but I can't generate reports like that on the fly. What , who is Stefan Thomas He's been part of the moderation team for a very long time, big part in Bitcoin too. You might know him with his alias "justmoon". He was the operator of and BitcoinJS.org & We Use Coins. He's fairly active, logs in from time to time, but doesn't post a lot lately. As far as I know there is only couple of developpers on the forums which are making the new forum software and this name isn't one of them Title: Re: Reporting posts Post by: MadGamer on February 14, 2015, 12:32:28 PM I think BadBear and maybe Stefan Thomas can also get that information. I think he is busy building new forum. -MZ If I'm understanding BadBear's response (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=925534.msg10165471#msg10165471) correctly he can't. I can see all of a user's reports, but I can't generate reports like that on the fly. That's the list that I was talking about => https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=925534.msg10161022#msg10161022 the user quoted it from Theymos , maybe theymos is the only one who have access to it Title: Re: Reporting posts Post by: Welsh on February 14, 2015, 12:41:02 PM That's the list that I was talking about => https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=925534.msg10161022#msg10161022 Yes I know. A user asked in the thread I linked if the list could be updated, BadBear responded with the quote above. I'm almost certain that Theymos is the only one who can do it.the user quoted it from Theymos , maybe theymos is the only one who have access to it Title: Re: Reporting posts Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 14, 2015, 12:48:58 PM If I'm understanding BadBear's response (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=925534.msg10165471#msg10165471) correctly he can't. I can see all of a user's reports, but I can't generate reports like that on the fly. This post confuses me. Seems like a antithesis to me. What , who is Stefan Thomas He's been part of the moderation team for a very long time, big part in Bitcoin too. You might know him with his alias "justmoon". He was the operator of and BitcoinJS.org & We Use Coins. He's fairly active, logs in from time to time, but doesn't post a lot lately. As far as I know there is only couple of developpers on the forums which are making the new forum software and this name isn't one of them https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2211 P.S. I don't current Admins must be a developer of new forum software. That's the list that I was talking about => https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=925534.msg10161022#msg10161022 the user quoted it from Theymos , maybe theymos is the only one who have access to it I know. -MZ Title: Re: Reporting posts Post by: shorena on February 14, 2015, 12:52:41 PM If I'm understanding BadBear's response (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=925534.msg10165471#msg10165471) correctly he can't. I can see all of a user's reports, but I can't generate reports like that on the fly. This post confuses me. Seems like a antithesis to me. BadBear could do it, but would have to do so by hand, which would take days? Theymos can directly access the database and create the stats on the fly. At least thats my interpretation of this. Title: Re: Reporting posts Post by: botany on February 14, 2015, 12:56:46 PM I don't know if anyone has suggested already(sorry if yes). It would be helpful if we can see a detailed stats of our reports(one by one) or atleast a summary-like: Number of reported post : 123 There should be 2 other lines Number of reports marked neither good nor bad: __ Title: Re: Reporting posts Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 14, 2015, 01:07:08 PM If I'm understanding BadBear's response (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=925534.msg10165471#msg10165471) correctly he can't. I can see all of a user's reports, but I can't generate reports like that on the fly. This post confuses me. Seems like a antithesis to me. BadBear could do it, but would have to do so by hand, which would take days? Theymos can directly access the database and create the stats on the fly. At least thats my interpretation of this. That was my interpretation too but after I read Welsh's post, I got confused. I don't know if anyone has suggested already(sorry if yes). It would be helpful if we can see a detailed stats of our reports(one by one) or atleast a summary-like: Number of reported post : 123 There should be 2 other lines Number of reports marked neither good nor bad: __ Thanks for the suggestion! I think reports marked neither good nor bad are generally considered as bad reports as they also decrease the accuracy.(?) Summing up: Quote Number of reported post : Title: Re: Reporting posts Post by: hilariousandco on February 14, 2015, 01:15:03 PM They won't decrease your accuracy unless they are marked as bad. The reports are neutral until they've been handled in one way or another.
Title: Re: Reporting posts Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 14, 2015, 04:12:36 PM They won't decrease your accuracy unless they are marked as bad. The reports are neutral until they've been handled in one way or another. So there isn't neutral reports? If a person reports a post for moving a thread to Project Development but the staff moved it to Digital Goods. So is that post good or bad? The mistake he did was the way he saw it: You did report it, but it was still pending/unhandled, though one had been moved. Both of those do belong in digital goods. There's always going to be some overlap with project development and service announcements, same with trading discussion and service discussion, so there's no fine line. Some threads would fit fine in either, downside of board based forums. I agree with what Shorena said though. -MZ Title: Re: Reporting posts Post by: shorena on February 14, 2015, 04:25:09 PM They won't decrease your accuracy unless they are marked as bad. The reports are neutral until they've been handled in one way or another. So there isn't neutral reports? If a person reports a post for moving a thread to Project Development but the staff moved it to Digital Goods. So is that post good or bad? The mistake he did was the way he saw it: You did report it, but it was still pending/unhandled, though one had been moved. Both of those do belong in digital goods. There's always going to be some overlap with project development and service announcements, same with trading discussion and service discussion, so there's no fine line. Some threads would fit fine in either, downside of board based forums. I agree with what Shorena said though. -MZ IIRC BadBear once said that he handles most reports as "good" even when they are not 100% correct. E.g. if you say "should be in digital goods" but its moved into servies (or similar). It is still a good report as the report made the mods aware of a post in the wrong section and they acted upon it. Title: Re: Reporting posts Post by: Quickseller on February 14, 2015, 04:49:31 PM IIRC BadBear once said that he handles most reports as "good" even when they are not 100% correct. E.g. if you say "should be in digital goods" but its moved into servies (or similar). It is still a good report as the report made the mods aware of a post in the wrong section and they acted upon it. A report is marked as good if it would be appropriate for a moderator to take any action again the post/thread/user in question that is being reported. What you say in the comments field does not really matter in terms of how it is marked with the exception of the fact that your argument may bring attention to a rule that was broken or other fact that a moderator may otherwise have overlooked.Title: Re: Reporting posts Post by: hilariousandco on February 14, 2015, 04:55:27 PM They won't decrease your accuracy unless they are marked as bad. The reports are neutral until they've been handled in one way or another. So there isn't neutral reports? If a person reports a post for moving a thread to Project Development but the staff moved it to Digital Goods. So is that post good or bad? No. The only way it would be 'neutral' is if every mod 'ignored' it but that is unlikely to happen as someone will likey handle it or mark it as a bad report at some point. And whether a mod marks a report that is moved to a different section than reported as bad or not is up to them but I think reports are sometimes automatically 'handled' ie marked as good when they're moved to a different sub. Title: Re: Reporting posts Post by: EFS on February 14, 2015, 05:14:36 PM IIRC BadBear once said that he handles most reports as "good" even when they are not 100% correct. E.g. if you say "should be in digital goods" but its moved into servies (or similar). It is still a good report as the report made the mods aware of a post in the wrong section and they acted upon it. No, you can get bad report for comments, too. I have a bad report for commenting a thread to "Trashcan" which should be in "Archival" board. Title: Re: Reporting posts Post by: Quickseller on February 14, 2015, 05:25:07 PM If it would be incorrect for a moderator to do anything in response to a report at the time when the report was made, then the report is considered inaccurate. Reports are explicitly marked as incorrect by moderators. It's also possible (though rare) for a report to be marked as neither good nor bad -- such reports don't count toward your accuracy percentage. Average accuracy is 56%, so 60% (66% now) isn't bad. Unless you're only reporting really obvious stuff, very few people will have accuracies above 90%. Even if you have the correct mindset for moderation, you won't know the policies well enough until you've been a moderator for a while. Title: Re: Reporting posts Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 14, 2015, 05:30:14 PM Thanks all! I think I understood but not complete.
And whether a mod marks a report that is moved to a different section than reported as bad or not is up to them but I think reports are sometimes automatically 'handled' ie marked as good when they're moved to a different sub. Can reports marked as good by a staff be changed to bad in a very short time realising it was a bad report? -MZ Title: Re: Reporting posts Post by: hilariousandco on February 14, 2015, 05:32:25 PM No. Only admins can do that.
Title: Re: Reporting posts Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 14, 2015, 05:39:35 PM No. Only admins can do that. Thanks! It's also possible (though rare) for a report to be marked as neither good nor bad -- such reports don't count toward your accuracy percentage. The only way it would be 'neutral' is if every mod 'ignored' it. I am in confusion now. Can anybody explain please? Thanks! -MZ Title: Re: Reporting posts Post by: redsn0w on February 14, 2015, 05:41:30 PM It's also possible (though rare) for a report to be marked as neither good nor bad -- such reports don't count toward your accuracy percentage. The only way it would be 'neutral' is if every mod 'ignored' it. I am in confusion now. Can anybody explain please? Thanks! -MZ If the staff member don't check the "report" it will stay neutral and your accuracy will not change. Title: Re: Reporting posts Post by: hilariousandco on February 14, 2015, 05:50:10 PM No. Only admins can do that. Thanks! It's also possible (though rare) for a report to be marked as neither good nor bad -- such reports don't count toward your accuracy percentage. The only way it would be 'neutral' is if every mod 'ignored' it. I am in confusion now. Can anybody explain please? Thanks! -MZ A mod has three options to deal with a report: handle, bad, and ignore. If you ignore it any other mod can still deal with it and only if every mod ignores it will it never be handled either good or bad, but I'm guessing those instances are very rare and it is very unlikely every single mod will ignore it. Title: Re: Reporting posts Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 14, 2015, 05:53:35 PM It's also possible (though rare) for a report to be marked as neither good nor bad -- such reports don't count toward your accuracy percentage. The only way it would be 'neutral' is if every mod 'ignored' it. If the staff member don't check the "report" it will stay neutral and your accuracy will not change. So theymos is telling that reports will stay neutral if it isn't handled/skipped instead of reports marked as neutral? Remember, the neutral I am telling isn't about unhandled reports. Edit: A mod has three options to deal with a report: handle, bad, and ignore. If you ignore it any other mod can still deal with it and only if every mod ignores it will it never be handled either good or bad, but I'm guessing those instances are very rare and it is very unlikely every single mod will ignore it. Thanks! Please look above and sorry for my stupidity! -MZ Title: Re: Reporting posts Post by: redsn0w on February 14, 2015, 05:56:04 PM It's also possible (though rare) for a report to be marked as neither good nor bad -- such reports don't count toward your accuracy percentage. The only way it would be 'neutral' is if every mod 'ignored' it. If the staff member don't check the "report" it will stay neutral and your accuracy will not change. So theymos is just telling that reports will stay neutral if it isn't handled/skipped instead of reports marked as neutral. Remember, the neutral I am telling isn't about unhandled reports. -MZ For hilariousandco and me neutral means unhandled, however I think it is easy to implement this type of report stats. Title: Re: Reporting posts Post by: hilariousandco on February 14, 2015, 05:56:48 PM It's not possible to mark a report as neutral, it will just happen by default if everyone ignores it, so I suppose it's collectively marking it as neutral in those rare cases but there is no 'neutral / neither good nor bad' button.
Title: Re: Reporting posts Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 14, 2015, 06:01:25 PM For hilariousandco and me neutral means unhandled, however I think it is easy to implement this type of report stats. For me too. My questions were related to previos questions and I didn't know how to define correctly(not a native/good English speaker). That's why you didn't understood correctly. :) It's not possible to mark a report as neutral, it will just happen by default if everyone ignores it, so I suppose it's collectively marking it as neutral in those rare cases but there is no 'neutral / neither good nor bad' button. When theymos used 'to be marked' instead of 'ignore', I was confused. Now I got it. Thanks again(incl. everybody who helped)! -MZ Title: Re: Reporting posts Post by: BadBear on February 14, 2015, 06:48:05 PM Whether the reason for a report is important or not really depends on your perspective.
Some see it as a good report because it was brought to their attention and they were able to act on it, and the actual reason is irrelevant. When you are looking at reports in the context of it possibly being a factor in someone being made a moderator down the road, the reason can be as important as the report itself. Title: Re: Reporting posts Post by: MadGamer on February 17, 2015, 02:21:08 PM Thank you for all your answer guys . I appreciate it .
Now I got how the system works as should be |