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Title: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: ecogex on May 23, 2011, 10:44:42 PM
Hello, after few days of documentation, reflexion and design, we introduce another proposal for an open Bitcoin logo.
The project page (http://www.ecogex.com/bitcoin) explains our motivations and technical details.

 http://www.ecogex.com/bitcoin/pack/forumTeaser.png (http://www.ecogex.com/bitcoin)

Please send us feedbacks about everything (including english mistakes :3 ).

References: About a Bitcoin Unicode Character (http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=369.220), Google image for Bitcoin Logo (http://www.google.fr/search?q=bitcoin+logo&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&hl=fr&tab=wi&biw=1440&bih=8020),  Another logo (http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=369.220)


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: Vandroiy on May 23, 2011, 10:53:15 PM
I strongly prefer the golden color. I know this is a temporary psychological effect, but Bitcoin is here to replace gold. The golden logos catch on.

Also, emphasizing the coin form not only fits the word perfectly, but again causes a positive association with money.

When you target geeks, choice of colors won't make much of a difference. But for the sake of targeting a wider audience, this new logo is less suitable than the ones that were used before.


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: Gabriel Beal on May 23, 2011, 11:04:43 PM
I like the look.  You guys did some slick work here.  I read your reasons for making a new logo.  Can you elaborate specifically on the other logos and which of your design premises they each break?


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: Shortline on May 23, 2011, 11:07:15 PM
North America has vertical lines.

$

Europe has horizontal.



If that's the reasoning I'm digging it. Bitcoin(s) not bitcoin?


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: Nick on May 23, 2011, 11:07:56 PM
Ugly colors.


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: Gabriel Beal on May 23, 2011, 11:09:40 PM
I like the look.  You guys did some slick work here.  I read your reasons for making a new logo.  Can you elaborate specifically on the other logos and which of your design premises they each break?

My mistake, you just have to click on the reasons and it has exactly the information for which I was looking.


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: Ryland R. Taylor-Almanza on May 24, 2011, 12:42:53 AM
I like it. The colors look great to me, as well (of course, I suppose being colorblind might make my opinion invalid.)

EDIT: Just a few problems. The website has a few broken images, and the logo pack zip file seems to be corrupt.


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: FreeMoney on May 24, 2011, 01:22:04 AM
http://img864.imageshack.us/img864/2136/spaced.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/864/spaced.png/)

I'm sure I didn't do it quite right, but I think it looks better than with empty space in the corner. Overall I like the scheme.


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: cypherdoc on May 24, 2011, 02:28:49 AM
i don't like the colors as well.  i like the current gold coin design


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: just_someguy on May 24, 2011, 02:52:46 AM
I like it! Very nice!


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: grue on May 24, 2011, 02:55:26 AM
i like golden yellow better :p


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: FreeMoney on May 24, 2011, 03:42:42 AM
I somewhat prefer the gold too, but I think I like everything else about this new scheme. I think different colors will work for different applications and audiences though.

Are people interested in gold Ƀ stuff?


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: Basiley on May 24, 2011, 03:46:46 AM
both can live.
IMO.


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: FreeMoney on May 24, 2011, 03:57:09 AM
both can live.
IMO.

Sure, but I bet one symbol will emerge eventually. It just makes sense to use the most recognized symbol in your stuff which makes it more used and thus more recognized until one is the "actual" symbol and one is at best, the "old" symbol. Just a feeling about what will happen, not a should or an ought.


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: Basiley on May 24, 2011, 04:13:00 AM
both can live.
IMO.

Sure, but I bet one symbol will emerge eventually. It just makes sense to use the most recognized symbol in your stuff which makes it more used and thus more recognized until one is the "actual" symbol and one is at best, the "old" symbol. Just a feeling about what will happen, not a should or an ought.
not exactly.
both symbols can evemrge/advance in different areas/purposes, like doen with others symbols/icons.
for example, you symbol more suitable for use in public area, ie as street mark/poster, while 1st variant is more suitable for docflow usage/mass-media ads.
or vice versa.
where is it actually matter is UTF table proposed change/update.


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: FreeMoney on May 24, 2011, 04:22:14 AM
both can live.
IMO.

Sure, but I bet one symbol will emerge eventually. It just makes sense to use the most recognized symbol in your stuff which makes it more used and thus more recognized until one is the "actual" symbol and one is at best, the "old" symbol. Just a feeling about what will happen, not a should or an ought.
not exactly.
both symbols can evemrge/advance in different areas/purposes, like doen with others symbols/icons.
for example, you symbol more suitable for use in public area, ie as street mark/poster, while 1st variant is more suitable for docflow usage/mass-media ads.
or vice versa.
where is it actually matter is UTF table proposed change/update.

I can see that.

Even online an old symbol could have a different connotation, like, "We used Bitcoin before it was cool". So multiple symbols can all be part of the bitcoin graphic culture.


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: Anonymous on May 24, 2011, 07:46:20 AM
http://www.ecogex.com/bitcoin/pack/heartOnly.png

I like that one :)


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: Joseph on May 24, 2011, 08:45:37 AM
In your website you say that you don't like the vertical line, because the dollar sign has one. There are many more currency symbols that have this vertical line to convey stability. So keep the vertical line!


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: FreeMoney on May 24, 2011, 09:11:18 AM
In your website you say that you don't like the vertical line, because the dollar sign has one. There are many more currency symbols that have this vertical line to convey stability. So keep the vertical line!

I bet he knows about the other currency symbols. I like how it has a horizontal line instead of vertical. Bitcoin is different after all. Vertical seems to imply hierarchy, horizontal implies fair, flat, peer relationships imo.


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: foo on May 24, 2011, 09:27:54 AM
Ugh, no. I don't think bitcoins need a symbol at all, but if we must have one the thai baht symbol is much better than this.


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: marcus_of_augustus on May 24, 2011, 09:35:05 AM
http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/1/btch.png (http://img846.imageshack.us/i/btch.png/)


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Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: ploum on May 24, 2011, 11:41:36 AM
I like the proposal but, I don't know why, I think that the gold color is needed and works fairly well on weusecoins.com


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: Stefan Thomas on May 24, 2011, 01:01:07 PM
When doing Weusecoins we considered designing a new logo for Bitcoin, but eventually decided it was best to stick with what people were already used to. I'm usually not a fan of crowdsourcing design, but when a logo/symbol emerges victorious again and again whenever the discussion comes up, maybe it's time to chill out and roll with it.  8)


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: teknohog on May 24, 2011, 01:25:35 PM
North America has vertical lines.

$

Europe has horizontal.



If that's the reasoning I'm digging it. Bitcoin(s) not bitcoin?


Satoshi has horizontal.

¥

AFAIK, those extra lines in currency letters are there to denote stability, and IMHO horizontal lines convey this idea better. However, vertical seems to go better with letters like B and S, and the Baht symbol is quite established for Bitcoin already.


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: wumpus on May 24, 2011, 03:21:04 PM
i like golden yellow better :p
I am personally not so fond of the current gold color, in my book it associates with casinos, get-rich-quick schemes and other scammy avenues.

This proposed color scheme is more professional and bank-like.


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: Ryland R. Taylor-Almanza on May 24, 2011, 04:03:45 PM
i like golden yellow better :p
I am personally not so fond of the current gold color, in my book it associates with casinos, get-rich-quick schemes and other scammy avenues.
Exactly! I hate that!
This proposed color scheme is more professional and bank-like.
Ok, professional's good. But bank-like? I don't want that either.


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: BitterTea on May 24, 2011, 04:24:24 PM
Ugh, no. I don't think bitcoins need a symbol at all, but if we must have one the thai baht symbol is much better than this.

That's just like, your opinion, man. I like that this symbol isn't used by any other currency.


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: Gabriel Beal on May 24, 2011, 04:50:02 PM
This proposed color scheme is more professional and bank-like.
Ok, professional's good. But bank-like? I don't want that either.

If we want Bitcoin to succeed, don't you think that the air of legitimacy a "bank like" currency symbol gives us is an asset?  If not bank-like, what kind of feel would you want it to have?


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: BitcoinsWallet on May 24, 2011, 04:57:44 PM
Vote for Ƀ

 ::)


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: Ryland R. Taylor-Almanza on May 24, 2011, 05:11:55 PM
This proposed color scheme is more professional and bank-like.
Ok, professional's good. But bank-like? I don't want that either.

If we want Bitcoin to succeed, don't you think that the air of legitimacy a "bank like" currency symbol gives us is an asset?  If not bank-like, what kind of feel would you want it to have?
Bitcoin-like! :D What does that mean? I don't know, but it's definitely the way to go! Realistically, bank-like may be the best way. I guess I just have a negative association with banks. Just the word "bank" makes me feel bad.


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: Gabriel Beal on May 25, 2011, 12:45:04 AM
Well, I decided to make it official.  I changed everything on SquareWear to Ƀ. (Except for the shirts themselves that already have it built in)


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: BitterTea on May 25, 2011, 12:54:09 AM
On the downside, it appears the default font used on Android cannot display this character.


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: Dobrodav on May 25, 2011, 03:20:21 AM
Honestly, i am did not like color sheme used. But  Ƀ sign looking good.


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: Ryland R. Taylor-Almanza on May 25, 2011, 03:48:08 AM
Wavering back and forth between Ƀ and β, but either way, I really like bitboy's graphics. So heres bitboy's logo with Ƀ:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23228112/%C9%83.png

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23228112/%C9%83rotated.png
Maybe he will eventually become active on the forums once again, and remake it better than I can.


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: Alex Beckenham on May 25, 2011, 07:59:23 AM
https://i.imgur.com/770FW.png

Well, that makes perfect sense to me!


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: Alex Beckenham on May 25, 2011, 08:01:31 AM
https://i.imgur.com/8QBS7.png

I thought the box was a running joke until I realised the joke was on me :D

I really gotta do something about my Windows fonts.


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: BitcoinsWallet on May 25, 2011, 10:58:29 AM
https://i.imgur.com/8QBS7.png

I thought the box was a running joke until I realised the joke was on me :D

I really gotta do something about my Windows fonts.


Solved?

http://www.ecogex.com/bitcoin/pack/circleBitcoin.png


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: Alex Beckenham on May 25, 2011, 11:01:42 AM
Solved?

Thanks, I have seen the character you're all talking about, and I really like it. It's different to any other currency symbol I've seen.

I like this image:


The double-vertical-line B, like in your avatar BW actually reminds me too much of the cartoon "Richie Rich".


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: Gabriel Beal on May 25, 2011, 12:19:05 PM
The double-vertical-line B, like in your avatar BW actually reminds me too much of the cartoon "Richie Rich".

Exactly, the sound I hear in my brain when I see it is "cha-ching!"


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: marcus_of_augustus on May 25, 2011, 01:57:39 PM
The double-vertical-line B, like in your avatar BW actually reminds me too much of the cartoon "Richie Rich".

Exactly, the sound I hear in my brain when I see it is "cha-ching!"

Exactly, it needs to have two lines of security to be real money ... Atlas Shrugged.

One for public key other for private key ... cha ..... ching.


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: ecogex on June 01, 2011, 03:57:07 PM
http://www.ecogex.com/bitcoin/images/scrooge-bitcoin.jpg


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: spleeder on June 01, 2011, 09:22:17 PM
http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/1/btch.png (http://img846.imageshack.us/i/btch.png/)


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Love what you've done there!


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: mmdough on June 01, 2011, 10:10:53 PM
Maybe I wasn't looking closely enough, but I could't find the rationale behind the specific color scheme used. Does it have any particular symbolic meaning?

Like the symbol, anyway.


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: ecogex on June 01, 2011, 10:41:40 PM
@mmdough: From another post (http://linuxfr.org/users/ecogex/journaux/alternative-au-logo-bitcoin) in french, translated by google :

Quote
About the colors:
We avoided to dwell too much on the colors to avoid "It's ugly, "but here's our rationale:
We chose the colors primarily by deduction, avoiding the red because too touts and already present in the sidebars of websites (among others).
The green was easily associated with the dollar in its dark versions, and too low versions in clear or apple. Other colors or pose problems of legibility in small sizes (badge, favicon, etc.). semiological or inconsistencies.
The orange is already well integrated in the versions of Bitcoin existing logo and we find the right color choices, reflecting a positive and non-frozen and naturally associated with the coin and exchange. The gray symbolize a technical, inspirational software security. In addition they activate the orange without distorting it and fit well in heterogeneous designs that we can not control. The accompanying black is a black Ƀ typographical seemed logical to sit the character and ensure its legibility. In this is not personal choice but a deduction based on the existing Bitcoin, the graphical environment and competitors.

Sorry for the translation, time is missing today.


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: mmdough on June 01, 2011, 11:14:24 PM
@mmdough: From another post (http://linuxfr.org/users/ecogex/journaux/alternative-au-logo-bitcoin) in french, translated by google :

Quote
About the colors:
We avoided to dwell too much on the colors to avoid "It's ugly, "but here's our rationale:
We chose the colors primarily by deduction, avoiding the red because too touts and already present in the sidebars of websites (among others).
The green was easily associated with the dollar in its dark versions, and too low versions in clear or apple. Other colors or pose problems of legibility in small sizes (badge, favicon, etc.). semiological or inconsistencies.
The orange is already well integrated in the versions of Bitcoin existing logo and we find the right color choices, reflecting a positive and non-frozen and naturally associated with the coin and exchange. The gray symbolize a technical, inspirational software security. In addition they activate the orange without distorting it and fit well in heterogeneous designs that we can not control. The accompanying black is a black Ƀ typographical seemed logical to sit the character and ensure its legibility. In this is not personal choice but a deduction based on the existing Bitcoin, the graphical environment and competitors.

Sorry for the translation, time is missing today.

Thanks for the explanation! Sounds good.


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: Coma on June 01, 2011, 11:29:20 PM
Oh boy, we need a designer NOW.

I mean, excellent effort. But designers are people who studied for their title and know that to design is to communicate.
Gold used as color has a strong SCAM connotation, we shoulnd't go with that.

My housemate is a designer, I'll ask her to do something and see.

Wait, what's wrong with?
https://www.bitcoins.lc/assets/bitlogo.png

The Unicode Ƀ is awesome if we can make it ours.


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: ecogex on June 07, 2011, 05:15:22 PM
An idea for a bitcoin tee shirt

http://www.ecogex.com/bitcoin/images/bitcoin_t_shirt.jpg


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: Gabriel Beal on June 07, 2011, 05:24:14 PM
We just launched a shirt using a slight modification of your logo and the new Latin motto (Vires In Numeris - "Strength in Numbers").  You can click through to see the bigger version. 

http://www.squarewear.biz/image/cache/data/smallStoreViresInNumeris-200x200.jpg (http://www.squarewear.biz/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=66)


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: amincd on September 18, 2011, 10:49:43 AM
I really like the variation of the 'Another Bitcoin Identity' logo used in Safebit:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=29109.0

So I've used my crappy Photoshop skills to mash it up with the 'Bitcoin Accepted' signs here:

http://www.ecogex.com/bitcoin

To create these:

https://i.imgur.com/Ri0iW.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/RYw2Q.jpg

*Edit, and another

https://i.imgur.com/QP7hA.png


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: turquoise9955 on September 18, 2011, 11:07:58 AM
Yellow Green Orange, Make it STAND OUT


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: Exonumia on September 18, 2011, 12:39:24 PM
Using the Ƀ instead of the baht (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_baht) symbol makes sense, due to it not being in use by another currency. I do prefer the old colorscheme to the proposed one here, however. Ƀ  (B with stroke (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B_with_stroke)) isn't used by another currency (is it?).



Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: arsenische on September 18, 2011, 01:49:48 PM
Why not to consider the "Б" sign (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91)? It also has a horizontal line (on the top), it looks more balanced, pronounced as "Be" and is present in all Cyrillic fonts :)


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: nhodges on September 19, 2011, 01:27:57 AM
I like the idea of using B with stroke, since it offers us both upper and lower case versions of itself. When the Bitcoin cap has been reached, we will most likely begin trading in smaller denominations, down to a Satoshi. Having both Ƀ and ƀ affords us a way to distinguish between large and small amounts in trading.

I agree with Exonumia though, I like the orange circle.


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: Andrew Bitcoiner on September 19, 2011, 01:48:58 AM
My two cents: ugly.


Title: Re: Ƀ Another Bitcoin identity
Post by: yona on November 05, 2013, 10:58:29 AM
i like it very much!