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Economy => Economics => Topic started by: GreenFox on May 24, 2011, 05:46:58 AM



Title: BTC to USD
Post by: GreenFox on May 24, 2011, 05:46:58 AM
What the best way to turn my BTCs into real money?

I've tried MtGox, but I can't seem to figure out how to move cash to my bank.  Should I just sell them through PayPal here?


Title: Re: BTC to USD
Post by: FreeMoney on May 24, 2011, 05:49:07 AM
What the best way to turn my BTCs into real money?

I've tried MtGox, but I can't seem to figure out how to move cash to my bank.  Should I just sell them through PayPal here?

I think people will be glad to give you PP for them, be careful to use someone with a rep though because PP can be charged back.

If you have trouble finding someone send me a PM and I'll get money moved from my bank to PP for a small discount.


Title: Re: BTC to USD
Post by: trentzb on May 24, 2011, 05:59:46 AM
What the best way to turn my BTCs into real money?
Out of curiosity, what leads you to believe BTC is not real money?


Title: Re: BTC to USD
Post by: Sweft on May 24, 2011, 06:01:06 AM
Because people need to eat and the grocery store doesn't know what bitcoins are?


Title: Re: BTC to USD
Post by: smooth on May 24, 2011, 06:04:09 AM
Because people need to eat and the grocery store doesn't know what bitcoins are?

http://bitmunchies.com/


Title: Re: BTC to USD
Post by: error on May 24, 2011, 06:22:40 AM
Because people need to eat and the grocery store doesn't know what bitcoins are?

The grocery store doesn't accept euros, or yen, or gold. But those are still money.


Title: Re: BTC to USD
Post by: The_Duke on May 24, 2011, 06:23:26 AM
Isnt that what the "Withdraw Funds" button at MtGox is for?


Title: Re: BTC to USD
Post by: Sweft on May 24, 2011, 06:23:53 AM
Because people need to eat and the grocery store doesn't know what bitcoins are?

http://bitmunchies.com/

That's nice but the vast majority of people go to the local supermarket.

Asked why bitcoin isn't considered currency, because it isnt accepted in places currencies are.  

Once wider acceptance, it will function as currency.


Title: Re: BTC to USD
Post by: Sweft on May 24, 2011, 06:29:04 AM
Because people need to eat and the grocery store doesn't know what bitcoins are?

The grocery store doesn't accept euros, or yen, or gold. But those are still money.

Well the bank does and there is an exchange.

Sure you can argue that bitcoin has an exchange and a price discovery mechanism.  And it is true, just as you convert euros to dollars.  The ability to interchange curriencies at market discovered prices is vital to the perception of value.

The question was why do you not consider bitcoins a currency.  The simple answer is that for it to be a currency it has to have a perception of currency.


Title: Re: BTC to USD
Post by: trentzb on May 24, 2011, 06:38:31 AM
The question was why do you not consider bitcoins a currency.  The simple answer is that for it to be a currency it has to have a perception of currency.

No, I think the question was:
Out of curiosity, what leads you to believe BTC is not real money?

I didn't ask about currency, and regardless I was looking for an answer from the OP, out of curiosity.


Title: Re: BTC to USD
Post by: Sweft on May 24, 2011, 06:44:42 AM
The question was why do you not consider bitcoins a currency.  The simple answer is that for it to be a currency it has to have a perception of currency.

No, I think the question was:
Out of curiosity, what leads you to believe BTC is not real money?

I didn't ask about currency, and regardless I was looking for an answer from the OP, out of curiosity.
The definitions here are ambiguous and the terms real money and currency seemingly interchangeable.

I'm not trying to be an ass,  but if you think about it there is no value to anything besides it's perception.  Various factors affect perception but in a labor theory of value we derive value in labor.  Which is a benefit of a gold backed currency and bitcoin as well, at least, over fiat. So I do see that it can possibly become real money but money is only real if people believe it to be money.


Title: Re: BTC to USD
Post by: trentzb on May 24, 2011, 06:51:44 AM
but money is only real if people believe it to be money.

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