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Title: Moscow-Based Security Firm Reveals What May Be The Biggest NSA "Backdoor Exploit
Post by: Hippie Tech on February 20, 2015, 08:37:13 AM
What does this bode for your mythical online/ crypto anonymity ? hmmm ?

Story #2 --> http://youtu.be/L8eO5BYHop8

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-16/moscow-based-security-firm-reveals-what-may-be-biggest-nsa-backdoor-exploit-ever


Title: Re: Moscow-Based Security Firm Reveals What May Be The Biggest NSA "Backdoor Exploit
Post by: Stifler on February 20, 2015, 09:28:16 AM
I really hope the NSA is brought to justice on these allegations if true. How can they get away with this. I suppose people could have their coins stolen by rouge agents so it does effect bitcoiners and it's something we shouldnt have to worry about.

The thing with malware within the firmware of hard drives is a big problem and that you can't detect them.

That they even infiltrate/attack hospitals is morally disgusting.



They don't care. They obviously just have a sickeningly perverse desire to know and attempt to control everything.


Title: Re: Moscow-Based Security Firm Reveals What May Be The Biggest NSA "Backdoor Exploit
Post by: cambda on February 20, 2015, 09:46:20 AM
Basically if installed in every device, a lot of lawsuits worldwide + bad publicity would destroy any big hardware producer. Thats why I believe it is only in targeted devices delivered for the one investigated


Title: Re: Moscow-Based Security Firm Reveals What May Be The Biggest NSA "Backdoor Exploit
Post by: easycryptonet on February 20, 2015, 10:01:19 AM
back to pen and paper guys :/


Title: Re: Moscow-Based Security Firm Reveals What May Be The Biggest NSA "Backdoor Exploit
Post by: keyscore44 on February 20, 2015, 10:04:02 AM
Seems to be getting worse:

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/19/nsa-gchq-sim-card-billions-cellphones-hacking

"American and British spies hacked into the world’s largest sim card manufacturer in a move that gave them unfettered access to billions of cellphones around the globe and looks set to spark another international row into overreach by espionage agencies.

The National Security Agency (NSA) and its British equivalent GCHQ hacked into Gemalto, a Netherlands sim card manufacturer, stealing encryption keys that allowed them to secretly monitor both voice calls and data, according to documents newly released by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden!.


Title: Re: Moscow-Based Security Firm Reveals What May Be The Biggest NSA "Backdoor Exploit
Post by: manfred on February 20, 2015, 11:18:04 AM
If anonymity is important to you stay away from computers and phones and use cash, end of story.


Title: Re: Moscow-Based Security Firm Reveals What May Be The Biggest NSA "Backdoor Exploit
Post by: franky1 on February 20, 2015, 11:47:31 AM
if you think this is new news then i guess you missed the fact that project ECHELON has been around since before most people were even born.


Title: Re: Moscow-Based Security Firm Reveals What May Be The Biggest NSA "Backdoor Exploit
Post by: f2000 on February 20, 2015, 11:56:38 AM
What worries me is that people dont seem to care about about their privacy. Frightening stuff, thanks for the posting links hippie/keyscore44.


Title: Re: Moscow-Based Security Firm Reveals What May Be The Biggest NSA "Backdoor Exploit
Post by: buyandhold on February 20, 2015, 12:05:18 PM
http://qntra.net/2015/02/your-disk-controller-and-you/



20:48:27 ascii_field: great sim heist << transparent nsa smokescreen. gsm uses toy crypto since day one (usg mandate) and has always been breakable with minimal effort.

20:48:44 ascii_field: ergo this is not why they stole the keys (assuming the snowden document is genuine)

20:49:45 ascii_field: the press, rancid mixture of stooges and useful idiots, help to push the implication that 'now we can switch to keys that have not yet been stolen, and no more interception'


Title: Re: Moscow-Based Security Firm Reveals What May Be The Biggest NSA "Backdoor Exploit
Post by: MJK on February 20, 2015, 12:17:14 PM
If anonymity is important to you stay away from computers and phones and use cash, end of story.

But this is not the way it should be. Clearly this is a MASSIVE breach of privacy and is downright illegal. If a citizen hacked into these companies or the government they'd get sent to jail for a very long time. People really need to be up in arms about this illegal behavior and abuses of power because where does it stop? This is far worse than what Orwell ever envisioned.


Title: Re: Moscow-Based Security Firm Reveals What May Be The Biggest NSA "Backdoor Exploit
Post by: Hippie Tech on February 20, 2015, 01:09:21 PM
If anonymity is important to you stay away from computers and phones and use cash, end of story.

Is that an Obomba phone up your ass ?




Title: Re: Moscow-Based Security Firm Reveals What May Be The Biggest NSA "Backdoor Exploit
Post by: f2000 on February 20, 2015, 02:04:14 PM
https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_md3ncvSWYw1qcpg1p.jpg


Title: Re: Moscow-Based Security Firm Reveals What May Be The Biggest NSA "Backdoor Exploit
Post by: Hippie Tech on February 20, 2015, 02:13:50 PM

Hippie Tech Sanction # 666

Obomba will not be allowed to have his name spelled correctly. :P


Title: Re: Moscow-Based Security Firm Reveals What May Be The Biggest NSA "Backdoor Exploit
Post by: Hippie Tech on February 21, 2015, 12:21:39 AM
if you think this is new news then i guess you missed the fact that project ECHELON has been around since before most people were even born.

While this is true, the HDD firmware/spyware scam has slammed and sealed that coffin shut.

Toss in a wireless transmitter and your cold storage is ... well .. you know.


Title: Re: Moscow-Based Security Firm Reveals What May Be The Biggest NSA "Backdoor Exploit
Post by: monsanto on February 21, 2015, 12:30:10 AM
Hard to believe at least some NSA employees haven't plundered some big btc wallets.  If they all managed to resist the urge it'd go against the entire history of human behavior.


Title: Re: Moscow-Based Security Firm Reveals What May Be The Biggest NSA "Backdoor Exploit
Post by: Hippie Tech on February 21, 2015, 12:48:27 AM
Hard to believe at least some NSA employees haven't plundered some big btc wallets.  If they all managed to resist the urge it'd go against the entire history of human behavior.

These people are paid to grope children and go out of their way to fuck with people's lives.

http://img.techpowerup.org/150220/tsa.jpg

There is little doubt in my mind that some/many hold the firmware's digital keys.

In other words, ANYTHING is possible.


Title: Re: Moscow-Based Security Firm Reveals What May Be The Biggest NSA "Backdoor Exploit
Post by: juju on February 21, 2015, 01:46:29 AM
What does this bode for your mythical online/ crypto anonymity ? hmmm ?

Story #2 --> http://youtu.be/L8eO5BYHop8

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-16/moscow-based-security-firm-reveals-what-may-be-biggest-nsa-backdoor-exploit-ever

My bus driver just told me about this an hour ago, he was telling me to check out the Intercept article on it. What the fuck was I doing all day today????


Title: Re: Moscow-Based Security Firm Reveals What May Be The Biggest NSA "Backdoor Exploit
Post by: croato on February 21, 2015, 01:51:40 AM
NSA is out of controll, i wonder what is next...


Title: Re: Moscow-Based Security Firm Reveals What May Be The Biggest NSA "Backdoor Exploit
Post by: Q7 on February 21, 2015, 03:19:50 AM
Any chance to prevent this or maybe some kind of software that can detect the backdoor?


Title: Re: Moscow-Based Security Firm Reveals What May Be The Biggest NSA "Backdoor Exploit
Post by: Hippie Tech on February 21, 2015, 03:52:12 AM
I'm calling my SSD and HDD makers on Monday morning to demand a refund and an apology !

FUCK THEM !

back to pen and paper guys :/

.. or punch cards. ;D


Title: Re: Moscow-Based Security Firm Reveals What May Be The Biggest NSA "Backdoor Exploit
Post by: elvizzzzzzz on February 21, 2015, 09:17:54 AM
And you think that the KGB only found out about this by reading
the newspapers?  They probably had access to whatever they
wanted for maybe a year. Thank you NSA (and the horse you
rode in on)


Title: Re: Moscow-Based Security Firm Reveals What May Be The Biggest NSA "Backdoor Exploit
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on February 21, 2015, 10:07:47 AM
that is the reason why china is producing its own hardware and infrastructure (with chinese backdoors)


Title: Re: Moscow-Based Security Firm Reveals What May Be The Biggest NSA "Backdoor Exploit
Post by: newflesh on February 21, 2015, 10:49:36 AM
Open source hardware is the logical way forward:  https://www.crowdsupply.com/purism/librem-laptop



Title: Re: Moscow-Based Security Firm Reveals What May Be The Biggest NSA "Backdoor Exploit
Post by: duckydonald on February 21, 2015, 11:36:50 AM
maybe is time for a new technology, I have a couple of ideas.


Title: Re: Moscow-Based Security Firm Reveals What May Be The Biggest NSA "Backdoor Exploit
Post by: Hippie Tech on February 21, 2015, 02:24:30 PM
And you think that the KGB only found out about this by reading
the newspapers?  They probably had access to whatever they
wanted for maybe a year. Thank you NSA (and the horse you
rode in on)

WARNING: The zionist/facists created the commies and the greedy capitalist pigs for our entertainment.

There is no good or bad guy or true competition. Its been staged to divide and conquer us.

Want proof ? Show me a Russian or <insert your country here> made, gpu, cpu, operating system ect.


Title: Re: Moscow-Based Security Firm Reveals What May Be The Biggest NSA "Backdoor Exploit
Post by: calme on February 21, 2015, 02:50:37 PM
Something wild about all this is the whole "If you're not doing anything illegal, then you shouldn't have anything to hide" mentality. Has anyone posted the home addresses and bank/brokerage account info of the NSA employees yet?


Title: Re: Moscow-Based Security Firm Reveals What May Be The Biggest NSA "Backdoor Exploit
Post by: moni3z on February 21, 2015, 07:24:09 PM
You have a lot more to worry about than SSD firmware controllers. Your entire system you're using right now is a pile of proprietary hardware slapped together, often running it's own operating system you have no control over.

http://www.coreboot.org/Binary_situation
http://danluu.com/cpu-backdoors/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_Platform_Management_Interface
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~sps32/sec_news.html#Assurance (FPGA/Silicon backdoors)





Title: Re: Moscow-Based Security Firm Reveals What May Be The Biggest NSA "Backdoor Exploit
Post by: pereira4 on February 21, 2015, 11:00:46 PM
This gets increasingly scary. Whats next, invisible drones with cameras? :(


Title: Re: Moscow-Based Security Firm Reveals What May Be The Biggest NSA "Backdoor Exploit
Post by: Hippie Tech on February 22, 2015, 12:16:57 PM
This gets increasingly scary. Whats next, invisible drones with cameras? :(

They hide them behind holograms depicting normal weather. eg. clouds, blue sky, stars..

The next question should be.. "is there a kill switch built into our tech ?"