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Economy => Service Discussion => Topic started by: LiteCoinGuy on February 28, 2015, 02:05:06 PM



Title: Coinbase is now the biggest western exchange after asia...
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on February 28, 2015, 02:05:06 PM
Coinbase is the biggest western exchange after asia (no. 10) .

How long will it take for Coinbase to reach the top 5? What do you think?

http://img4.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/2222222222fzh1t704mj.png (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)


Title: Re: Coinbase is now the biggest western exchange after asia...
Post by: bitgeek on February 28, 2015, 02:18:44 PM
Good for them. I just hope they won't turn into another Gox. BTC needs a stable well managed exchanges, that won't report a hack and disappear after a year or 2.


Title: Re: Coinbase is now the biggest western exchange after asia...
Post by: Gisado on February 28, 2015, 02:31:45 PM
I would like to see the original page... Can you give me the link?


Title: Re: Coinbase is now the biggest western exchange after asia...
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on February 28, 2015, 02:49:34 PM
@bitgeek:

you cant compare coinbase with mtgox. nothing is a 100% safe but coinbase has a very professonial team and because of that more than $120 millions in funding.
mtgox was ran by a criminal lunatic with no clue.


@Gisado

here it is:

http://exchangewar.info/#unisend


Title: Re: Coinbase is now the biggest western exchange after asia...
Post by: Brooker on February 28, 2015, 03:26:11 PM
Coinbase is the biggest western exchange after asia (no. 10) .

How long will it take for Coinbase to reach the top 5? What do you think?


I think it'll climb up rapidly especially as bitcoin adoption grows in America. What I want to know is why are all the biggest exchanges Chinese? Hopefully it wont matter in the future any way as we move towards decentralized exchanges which are in the true spirit of bitcoin in my opinion.


Title: Re: Coinbase is now the biggest western exchange after asia...
Post by: gentlemand on February 28, 2015, 03:33:57 PM

I think it'll climb up rapidly especially as bitcoin adoption grows in America. What I want to know is why are all the biggest exchanges Chinese?


There are lots of miners there. Also those exchanges are zero fee so they'll attract traders from all around the world. Hopefully they'll eventually become an irrelevance because none of them are to be trusted.


Title: Re: Coinbase is now the biggest western exchange after asia...
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on February 28, 2015, 03:36:33 PM
maybe there are more Bots that trade BTC and this is the reason for the high volume.


Title: Re: Coinbase is now the biggest western exchange after asia...
Post by: Brooker on February 28, 2015, 03:38:09 PM

I think it'll climb up rapidly especially as bitcoin adoption grows in America. What I want to know is why are all the biggest exchanges Chinese?


There are lots of miners there. Also those exchanges are zero fee so they'll attract traders from all around the world. Hopefully they'll eventually become an irrelevance because none of them are to be trusted.

They're all zero fees?  :o How do they make money?


Title: Re: Coinbase is now the biggest western exchange after asia...
Post by: gentlemand on February 28, 2015, 03:43:52 PM

I think it'll climb up rapidly especially as bitcoin adoption grows in America. What I want to know is why are all the biggest exchanges Chinese?


There are lots of miners there. Also those exchanges are zero fee so they'll attract traders from all around the world. Hopefully they'll eventually become an irrelevance because none of them are to be trusted.

They're all zero fees?  :o How do they make money?

I think some charge a withdrawal fee. I'll guess that much of their money is made taking fresh CNY for coins that have never and will never actually exist.


Title: Re: Coinbase is now the biggest western exchange after asia...
Post by: Slunt on February 28, 2015, 03:47:40 PM

I think it'll climb up rapidly especially as bitcoin adoption grows in America. What I want to know is why are all the biggest exchanges Chinese?


There are lots of miners there. Also those exchanges are zero fee so they'll attract traders from all around the world. Hopefully they'll eventually become an irrelevance because none of them are to be trusted.

They're all zero fees?  :o How do they make money?

Maybe they're all ponzi schemes?  ;D They might make money from adverts like faucets do. They'll surely get a lot of hits.


Title: Re: Coinbase is now the biggest western exchange after asia...
Post by: CIYAM on February 28, 2015, 03:52:19 PM
Maybe they're all ponzi schemes?  ;D They might make money from adverts like faucets do. They'll surely get a lot of hits.

You'll notice that the majority of trades done on the platforms that have 0% fees are done by robots.

The owners of the exchange create their own robots that can trade faster than anyone else (by running from the same server or data center).

This is how they can "afford" to offer zero trading fees (the same sort of corruption that happens with high speed trading in stock exchanges).


Title: Re: Coinbase is now the biggest western exchange after asia...
Post by: koelen3 on February 28, 2015, 04:02:58 PM
Personally i don't think they must go any higher , they arent that great


Title: Re: Coinbase is now the biggest western exchange after asia...
Post by: Brad Pitt on February 28, 2015, 04:13:33 PM
Maybe they're all ponzi schemes?  ;D They might make money from adverts like faucets do. They'll surely get a lot of hits.

You'll notice that the majority of trades done on the platforms that have 0% fees are done by robots.

The owners of the exchange create their own robots that can trade faster than anyone else (by running from the same server or data center).

This is how they can "afford" to offer zero trading fees (the same sort of corruption that happens with high speed trading in stock exchanges).


What is the benefit to them of using bots? How do they make their money from this?


Title: Re: Coinbase is now the biggest western exchange after asia...
Post by: gentlemand on February 28, 2015, 04:14:22 PM
Maybe they're all ponzi schemes?  ;D They might make money from adverts like faucets do. They'll surely get a lot of hits.

You'll notice that the majority of trades done on the platforms that have 0% fees are done by robots.

The owners of the exchange create their own robots that can trade faster than anyone else (by running from the same server or data center).

This is how they can "afford" to offer zero trading fees (the same sort of corruption that happens with high speed trading in stock exchanges).


What is the benefit to them of using bots? How do they make their money from this?

They can front run their customers and sell back to them.


Title: Re: Coinbase is now the biggest western exchange after asia...
Post by: CIYAM on February 28, 2015, 04:19:49 PM
They can front run their customers and sell back to them.

Yes - that is probably the main method used.


Title: Re: Coinbase is now the biggest western exchange after asia...
Post by: pabitel on February 28, 2015, 04:20:48 PM
It should be noted that Coinbase will start charging fees after March 30 (https://support.coinbase.com/customer/portal/articles/1826608-what-are-the-fees-for-using-coinbase-exchange-).


Title: Re: Coinbase is now the biggest western exchange after asia...
Post by: CIYAM on February 28, 2015, 04:22:18 PM
It should be noted that Coinbase will start charging fees after March 30 (https://support.coinbase.com/customer/portal/articles/1826608-what-are-the-fees-for-using-coinbase-exchange-).

The main asian exchanges don't charge commissions (and I don't think that is going to change any time soon).


Title: Re: Coinbase is now the biggest western exchange after asia...
Post by: nioc on February 28, 2015, 04:43:22 PM
Coinbase is getting that volume while only servicing 50% of the states in the US although a larger % of the population.  This is due to the current 0% fees and perceived safety.  That perceived safety is ofc due to regulation.  Those regulations are the reason some people have been kicked off of CB.  I have been lucky that my "bad" transactions happened significantly before they instituted their restrictions and I am able to use CB although I have not signed up with their exchange.

What do people think of using CB considering the regulations they abide by?



Title: Re: Coinbase is now the biggest western exchange after asia...
Post by: avatar_kiyoshi on February 28, 2015, 05:34:50 PM
Wow its good for coinbase, I'm not really hope will reach top 5.
My fav alt exchanger in 27 lol
Chine exchanger dominate :D

Can you give me a link of this sites ?? i like to see the original page  ;D
Coinbase will reach top 5 in 1 years trust me  ;D

http://exchangewar.info/#unisend


Title: Re: Coinbase is now the biggest western exchange after asia...
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on February 28, 2015, 06:53:21 PM
maybe coinbase will change their plan and charge no fees in 2015? maybe  ;)


Title: Re: Coinbase is now the biggest western exchange after asia...
Post by: uvt9 on February 28, 2015, 08:36:15 PM
I have never heard about #3, #4, #5 and #8, #9. How the hell these chinese exchanges got so much volume ? I know they have no fee but ridiculously high volume cannot be justified by this reason.


Title: Re: Coinbase is now the biggest western exchange after asia...
Post by: D05GTO on February 28, 2015, 08:41:45 PM
Sure you can. Just swap 10 btc back and forth a million times.  Boom.. giant volume for doing nothing but passing the same few btc to themselves.


Title: Re: Coinbase is now the biggest western exchange after asia...
Post by: PolarPoint on February 28, 2015, 09:03:38 PM
All those chinese exchanges are faking their volume ... aka buy and sell to themselves....

Agree. They have 5 exchanges with volumes at multiples of coinbase, it is ridiculous. I like to see their real volume if they increase fees to 0.1%.


Title: Re: Coinbase is now the biggest western exchange after asia...
Post by: MilesJohan on February 28, 2015, 10:49:36 PM
maybe coinbase will change their plan and charge no fees in 2015? maybe  ;)

I doubt that will happen. Even they need money to run their business.


Title: Re: Coinbase is now the biggest western exchange after asia...
Post by: 1Referee on February 28, 2015, 11:26:53 PM
Chinese exchanges are on steroids. Man, what is up with their volume?

I know they don't charge anything for trading but it looks quite surreal.


Title: Re: Coinbase is now the biggest western exchange after asia...
Post by: bitgeek on March 01, 2015, 12:40:34 AM
Chinese exchanges are on steroids. Man, what is up with their volume?

I know they don't charge anything for trading but it looks quite surreal.

They were already accused of faking it. http://www.coindesk.com/reality-chinese-trading-volumes/
Even if some of the exchanges are doing it China has a significant lead and most of the volume is real. A lot of trades in there.


Title: Re: Coinbase is now the biggest western exchange after asia...
Post by: tss on March 01, 2015, 06:29:06 AM
robots, price manipulation, selling to the people coins that dont exist and buying them back for lower prices.  all these things will be cleared up with time. 


Title: Re: Coinbase is now the biggest western exchange after asia...
Post by: justmyname on March 01, 2015, 06:48:40 PM
Coinbase charges me about $10 extra every time I buy Bitcoins. The Banks get something also. So no, I don't think they are doing me any favors and should raise fees.


Title: Re: Coinbase is now the biggest western exchange after asia...
Post by: girb16 on March 01, 2015, 07:28:59 PM
Perhaps that is why Coinbase is doing so well these days. They are charging an arm and a leg.


Title: Re: Coinbase is now the biggest western exchange after asia...
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on March 04, 2015, 06:21:57 PM
maybe coinbase will change their plan and charge no fees in 2015? maybe  ;)

I doubt that will happen. Even they need money to run their business.

you can make money with extra / premium services or advertising as well.