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Title: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: Morecoin Freeman on March 06, 2015, 03:06:38 PM
Euro price going down. Sell or hodl?


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: adamstgBit on March 06, 2015, 03:14:36 PM
trade it in for USD

its going to the moon!

DXY:
http://s27.postimg.org/qssnxeic3/download.png


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: Amph on March 06, 2015, 04:16:13 PM
yeah, and buy bitcoin with them, all fiat should be converted to btc


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: ajareselde on March 06, 2015, 04:27:08 PM
Euro price going down. Sell or hodl?

So you are telling us you have your funds in fiat :] If you are into that, i wouldnt personaly advise converting in USD as someone previously stated,
the eur lost a lot with few EU countries that simply dont know how to do their finances, but under mentorship of Angela Merkel, even the toughest brat children will learn their lession,
and EUR will return stronger than ever, and USD has its run just now, so wouldnt it be bad to buy at the top and be forced to stop loss later on?

cheers


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: BillyBobZorton on March 06, 2015, 04:43:23 PM
If you want to stay in fiat... Stay in €. Otherwise buy BTC.
Yeah, not worth trading fiat for fiat, if you want to get out of the crashing € put it all on BTC.


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: Miz4r on March 06, 2015, 04:52:32 PM
Euro price going down. Sell or hodl?

Too late to sell Euro for USD now if you hadn't already, maybe at the next dead cat bounce. I do expect euro to reach dollar parity pretty soon but not before another bounce. Buying BTC however is a better bet imo, BTC is still undervalued and has recently started an uptrend (daily EMA's 20/50 cross and SMA's 20/50 both trending up now). Nobody knows how long this will last but since it's pretty fresh I think moving some euros into BTC is a pretty good bet right now. Personally I'm hardly holding any euros for a while now, just enough to pay my bills and living expenses. :)


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: Q7 on March 06, 2015, 04:52:59 PM
If you are waiting for your fiat to gain in value and still being able to buy the same amount of stuff that it can get you today, you can just continue to wait and wait. Because in another few years down the road, you will see that your spending power is shrinking. Time to think of on how to diversify and correct the situation.


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: billyjoeallen on March 06, 2015, 04:55:56 PM
[urlhttp://www.lse.co.uk/AllNews.asp?code=bmw19tdl&headline=Swedish_Krona_Rises_To_Near_4month_High_Against_Euro][/url]Buy Sweedish Kronor.  The Riksbank is losing billions trying to keep the Europeg and it won't hold.  Huge potential profit.


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: bri912678 on March 06, 2015, 05:01:39 PM
If you want to stay in fiat... Stay in €. Otherwise buy BTC.
Yeah, not worth trading fiat for fiat, if you want to get out of the crashing € put it all on BTC.

I'm not sure if it's worth trading EURO for USD but the Forex market (trading fiat for fiat) is the biggest market in the world and the amount of money traded daily dwarfs the bitcoin market.


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: Brewins on March 06, 2015, 05:06:20 PM
trade it to USD.


Keep chasing collapsing markets and losing your money.


After all ,we need to take profits from someone


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: randy8777 on March 06, 2015, 08:00:13 PM
buy bitcoin if you don't like to trade fiat currencies. current euro value is low but i don't think it will stay like this forever. great thing with bitcoin is that 1btc is always 1btc.


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: arvindr on March 06, 2015, 08:26:22 PM
Would be crazy if Euro reaches below the USD. Currently, its 1.09USD.


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: UnDerDoG81 on March 06, 2015, 08:33:32 PM
Just a question of time till usd collaps...


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: NUFCrichard on March 06, 2015, 08:49:33 PM
I have invested in a USD hedged brent crude ETF, that covers the really low oil price and keeps some of my money out of € too.
Bitcoin is pretty much priced in $ too, or silver, both would be fair choices.


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: finlon on March 06, 2015, 09:56:48 PM
Looks like today was the lowest price in the last 10 Years for euro. I don't think you should sell it at the lowest already .
It can definitely go lower, But I am think the government will step in to stop that from happening.


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: uki on March 06, 2015, 10:03:23 PM
trade it in for USD

its going to the moon!

DXY:
-snip-
Yes, dollar was proclaimed the king today. Again. This time on job reports. Can is kicked further.
Expect dollar to be very strong in 2015, to da moon or beyond, depending on the printing press and the 'news'.


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: billyjoeallen on March 06, 2015, 10:18:28 PM
trade it in for USD

its going to the moon!

DXY:
-snip-
Yes, dollar was proclaimed the king today. Again. This time on job reports. Can is kicked further.
Expect dollar to be very strong in 2015, to da moon or beyond, depending on the printing press and the 'news'.

US economy is getting hammered by strong dollar. Low oil prices costing us jobs here in Louisiana. Auto exports are crashing. Americans are not even buying American cars anymore because Imports are so cheap.

This is why I never want to see Bitcoin as legal tender. It would rise in value so quickly that velocity would crash, causing a depression. It functions better as a reserve currency mostly used for settlements. We could use altcoins for day to day xactions. The only problem with the bi-metal standard of the late 19th century was that gold and silver were pegged and not floating against each other. We need to end legal tender laws.


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: uki on March 06, 2015, 11:03:18 PM
US economy is getting hammered by strong dollar. Low oil prices costing us jobs here in Louisiana. Auto exports are crashing. Americans are not even buying American cars anymore because Imports are so cheap.

This is why I never want to see Bitcoin as legal tender. It would rise in value so quickly that velocity would crash, causing a depression. It functions better as a reserve currency mostly used for settlements. We could use altcoins for day to day xactions. The only problem with the bi-metal standard of the late 19th century was that gold and silver were pegged and not floating against each other. We need to end legal tender laws.
I would love to see the end of the legal tender laws, but to my understanding of the FED actions, since the early days of this unholy institution, they actually do all they can to ensure them. this includes mass media coverage, on how US economy is 'flourishing', despite the facts that you mentioned.


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: billyjoeallen on March 07, 2015, 01:24:14 AM
US economy is getting hammered by strong dollar. Low oil prices costing us jobs here in Louisiana. Auto exports are crashing. Americans are not even buying American cars anymore because Imports are so cheap.

This is why I never want to see Bitcoin as legal tender. It would rise in value so quickly that velocity would crash, causing a depression. It functions better as a reserve currency mostly used for settlements. We could use altcoins for day to day xactions. The only problem with the bi-metal standard of the late 19th century was that gold and silver were pegged and not floating against each other. We need to end legal tender laws.
I would love to see the end of the legal tender laws, but to my understanding of the FED actions, since the early days of this unholy institution, they actually do all they can to ensure them. this includes mass media coverage, on how US economy is 'flourishing', despite the facts that you mentioned.

The Fed is the most damaging institution in the world. Every country was forced to convert to unbacked fiat because the dollar's reserve currency status, and gave every government free reign to steal purchasing power of savers at will.  This destroyed capital formation and the entire capital structure of the global economy. A credit crisis now could see hyperinflation everywhere except the U.S. and crippling deflation here. Literally millions could starve before the capital structure realigns. 

Crypto is the only way I can see to prevent the breakdown of international trade in a worst case scenario. I know this sounds crazy, but based on my understanding of Austrian macroeconomics, it's a very real risk.


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: Snipe85 on March 07, 2015, 01:43:54 AM
It's funny that USD, one of the most overprinted currencies, is still pumping. I hope you're not taking these advice to buy USD seriously.


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: chessnut on March 07, 2015, 03:19:20 AM
Hold your Euros. you are late to the party to sell. Do you think the European Banks are undergoing QE because they think the value of the euro will fall if not for it? no, they are fighting large forces of deflation, you should be saving your Euros outside of the bank in deflation. Do you see that any 'crisis', for example, the Greek debt crisis in the euro zone that devalues the currency is welcomed by the banks because they will have to print less money to achieve the same desired stable rate. They have the Euro under control. No doubt you should also hold some bitcoin and gold for the case where the Euro totally collapses alongside the USD, but why worry about selling all your euros.


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: adamstgBit on March 07, 2015, 03:25:11 AM
you should buy a boat


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: fr4nkthetank on March 07, 2015, 03:30:45 AM
Euro price going down. Sell or hodl?

Too late to sell Euro for USD now if you hadn't already, maybe at the next dead cat bounce. I do expect euro to reach dollar parity pretty soon but not before another bounce. Buying BTC however is a better bet imo, BTC is still undervalued and has recently started an uptrend (daily EMA's 20/50 cross and SMA's 20/50 both trending up now). Nobody knows how long this will last but since it's pretty fresh I think moving some euros into BTC is a pretty good bet right now. Personally I'm hardly holding any euros for a while now, just enough to pay my bills and living expenses. :)

Art Cashin (cnbc) said euro could go to parity if US raised rates while rest of the world is easing.  IMO rates will never rise again substantially, if they do markets will crap pretty bad.  Even now multinationals based in america are losing sales everywhere due to high dollar, etc.  So its a tough trade but it all depends on the FED.   


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: el kaka22 on March 07, 2015, 03:31:40 AM
who know if euro will gonna rise again
trade in usd or btc.. eheh


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: chessnut on March 07, 2015, 04:36:56 AM

Art Cashin (cnbc) said euro could go to parity if US raised rates while rest of the world is easing.  IMO rates will never rise again substantially, if they do markets will crap pretty bad.  Even now multinationals based in america are losing sales everywhere due to high dollar, etc.  So its a tough trade but it all depends on the FED.   

It could go to parity for a fleeting moment, but it will not if thats not what the EU wants and it does not depend on just the fed. It is not desirabe to print money. If they dont need to devalue their currency to maintain desirable levels they wont. If the FED rises interest rates, the EU only needs to stop printing and deflationary forces will keep the EUR afloat.

who know if euro will gonna rise again
trade in usd or btc.. eheh

There are people who may know.


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: manis on March 07, 2015, 07:20:53 AM
It's funny that USD, one of the most overprinted currencies, is still pumping. I hope you're not taking these advice to buy USD seriously.

It has competition.
Other countries are coming out with their own versions of Quantitative Easing.


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: thejaytiesto on March 07, 2015, 08:49:32 PM
you should buy a boat

Thats not a good advice. That will depreciate the price by half on purchasing, and is a loss

Not if it's a nice boat that you can lend to people for money. It's all about trying to find passive income with your investments, thats what I always try to do.


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: Dalmar on March 07, 2015, 08:59:26 PM
EUR is going to bounce to 1.15 soonish, now is not the time to sell. Parity will not happen this fast.


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: criptix on March 07, 2015, 09:19:46 PM
EUR is going to bounce to 1.15 soonish, now is not the time to sell. Parity will not happen this fast.

european qe just started this month.
you sure we wont see parity soon?

my bet is we gonna see it probaly before the first half of 2015 ends.  :-\


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: Omikifuse on March 07, 2015, 09:33:25 PM
you should buy a boat

Thats not a good advice. That will depreciate the price by half on purchasing, and is a loss

if the world becomes like Waterworld the boat price will skyrocket and he will be rich.

It is only matter of see what could happens in the future


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: galbros on March 07, 2015, 10:55:10 PM
If you trade to USD you can get better interest rate, but not sure long term.  Parity seems to be in the immediate future, but I'm not so sure.  Good Luck!


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: uki on March 07, 2015, 11:08:17 PM
US economy is getting hammered by strong dollar. Low oil prices costing us jobs here in Louisiana. Auto exports are crashing. Americans are not even buying American cars anymore because Imports are so cheap.

This is why I never want to see Bitcoin as legal tender. It would rise in value so quickly that velocity would crash, causing a depression. It functions better as a reserve currency mostly used for settlements. We could use altcoins for day to day xactions. The only problem with the bi-metal standard of the late 19th century was that gold and silver were pegged and not floating against each other. We need to end legal tender laws.
I would love to see the end of the legal tender laws, but to my understanding of the FED actions, since the early days of this unholy institution, they actually do all they can to ensure them. this includes mass media coverage, on how US economy is 'flourishing', despite the facts that you mentioned.

The Fed is the most damaging institution in the world. Every country was forced to convert to unbacked fiat because the dollar's reserve currency status, and gave every government free reign to steal purchasing power of savers at will.  This destroyed capital formation and the entire capital structure of the global economy. A credit crisis now could see hyperinflation everywhere except the U.S. and crippling deflation here. Literally millions could starve before the capital structure realigns. 

Crypto is the only way I can see to prevent the breakdown of international trade in a worst case scenario. I know this sounds crazy, but based on my understanding of Austrian macroeconomics, it's a very real risk.
And I must, unfortunately for us all, agree with you. I also don't see a nice ending to the story of continuous manipulation from the FED that hides the real picture of the economy. Whether there is any salvation from that, or better to say whether application of any 'medicine' would be allowed by the 'powers that be', that is another question.


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: bri912678 on March 07, 2015, 11:39:19 PM
EUR is going to bounce to 1.15 soonish, now is not the time to sell. Parity will not happen this fast.

european qe just started this month.
you sure we wont see parity soon?

my bet is we gonna see it probaly before the first half of 2015 ends.  :-\

The euro fell on Thursday below $1.10 for the first time since 2003.

Now it's at 1.08

No wonder the OP is worried.


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: Auxi on March 07, 2015, 11:57:45 PM
with $ and BTC europeans are earn money  ;D


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: el kaka22 on March 08, 2015, 02:16:08 AM
you should buy a boat

Thats not a good advice. That will depreciate the price by half on purchasing, and is a loss

Not if it's a nice boat that you can lend to people for money. It's all about trying to find passive income with your investments, thats what I always try to do.
+1
but vain if his place does not exist a river, lake or ocean :P


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: specgamer on March 08, 2015, 04:25:19 AM
I did some research, and the best solution I found right now for you is to exchange them for USD. he USD is a safe haven currency and since EURUSD is the most heavily traded currency pair, for the USD to strengthen funds are coming out of the Euro. Hope this helps ;)


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: virtapayseller666 on March 08, 2015, 04:47:53 AM
Trade it for USD
EUR/USD trading at 1.0860, the lowest level in over 11 years
see chart
http://mediaserver.fxstreet.com/Reports/af2c5470-86c7-41a9-901c-05b250ef9813/EURUSDWeekly_20150306171309.png

price will decrease more


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: azguard on March 08, 2015, 07:59:19 AM
euro price is dropping in all countries.
you can either change it to dollar or maybe swiss frank.


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: 4ever on March 08, 2015, 08:07:15 AM
It has already hit the lowest it can hit  . I don't see euro going any lower from now on. Not a good time to sell.

I kind of think along the same lines. its already very low, and wouldn't really fall much worse. Its best to just hold onto it for now.


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: Monetizer on March 08, 2015, 08:08:27 AM
Honestly I see Bitcoin as a much better investment to buy into rather than holding onto you Euro. You can get things like bitcoin debit cards so you can still buy things with your btc as well in shops.


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: picolo on March 08, 2015, 11:53:41 AM
Euro price going down. Sell or hodl?

Selling doesn't mean anything because you have to say in what you are selling. I would sell Euro against most assets but buy against the Dollar. Both the Dollar and Euro are likely to fall against most assets.


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: picolo on March 08, 2015, 11:54:15 AM
Do you prefer to save in paper (fiat currency) or into a company that produces goods and services that are very appreciated and needed ?


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: thejaytiesto on March 08, 2015, 08:47:27 PM
Do you prefer to save in paper (fiat currency) or into a company that produces goods and services that are very appreciated and needed ?
I wish I could get rid of all my cash, it's so annoying to handle with papers and let alone these rusty physical coins. It's really primitive once you've used Bitcoin on a smartphone + QR code for a while.


Title: Re: Should I sell my EUROs?
Post by: uki on March 08, 2015, 09:27:39 PM
EUR is going to bounce to 1.15 soonish, now is not the time to sell. Parity will not happen this fast.
Don't see that coming any time soon with the QE now happening by ECB. All points to the scenario in which we will test parity in 2015.