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Title: Maybe a Japanese looted Mt. Gox
Post by: Blinken on March 12, 2015, 12:40:34 AM
I was looking at the leaked list of accounts which the supposed Mt. Gox "hacker" posted.

One thing you notice is that SOME of the names are "censored", but the names of Americans, Europeans and Russians do not seem to be censored. Just guessing here, but maybe the "censored" names are all the Japanese names. Why would the hacker remove all the Japanese names, but leave in the foreigner names, unless of course the hacker was Japanese.

Hmmmm....


Title: Re: Maybe a Japanese looted Mt. Gox
Post by: NRF on March 12, 2015, 12:45:45 AM
One thing you notice is that SOME of the names are "censored", but the names of Americans, Europeans and Russians do not seem to be censored. Just guessing here, but maybe the "censored" names are all the Japanese names. Why would the hacker remove all the Japanese names, but leave in the foreigner names, unless of course the hacker was Japanese.

Without looking at it character encoding would account for that.


Title: Re: Maybe a Japanese looted Mt. Gox
Post by: Possum577 on March 12, 2015, 06:32:59 AM
Can you share the leaked list of accounts so we can see what you're talking about?

Have a link?


Title: Re: Maybe a Japanese looted Mt. Gox
Post by: Newar on March 12, 2015, 06:44:47 AM

I see Japanese names. Maybe you need to install the appropriate character set?


Title: Re: Maybe a Japanese looted Mt. Gox
Post by: jmintuck on March 12, 2015, 06:48:05 AM
Maybe it was Satoshi himself. The name is Japanese too.


Title: Re: Maybe a Japanese looted Mt. Gox
Post by: AtheistAKASaneBrain on March 12, 2015, 01:19:51 PM
Maybe it was Satoshi himself. The name is Japanese too.
Lol. Why would Satoshi do that if he has enough Bitcoin to stay retired for several lifetimes.


Title: Re: Maybe a Japanese looted Mt. Gox
Post by: muddyheights2 on March 12, 2015, 01:26:28 PM
any exchange related to china/japan I avoid i.e. made in china obvious scammers they produce cheap shit that half works no wonder peupel lost their coins also avoid using Bter its a gox bomb just waiting to happen


Title: Re: Maybe a Japanese looted Mt. Gox
Post by: calme on March 12, 2015, 01:27:46 PM
If it wasn't a jap then you just know it was a german who did this.


Title: Re: Maybe a Japanese looted Mt. Gox
Post by: muddyheights2 on March 12, 2015, 01:28:39 PM
and korea too in fact any asian owned exhange just to be on the safe side they r not known for compensating customers


Title: Re: Maybe a Japanese looted Mt. Gox
Post by: mistercoin on March 12, 2015, 02:06:14 PM
any exchange related to china/japan I avoid i.e. made in china obvious scammers they produce cheap shit that half works no wonder peupel lost their coins also avoid using Bter its a gox bomb just waiting to happen

Your English is broken, and it is hard to understand what you are on about. Please clarify.


Title: Re: Maybe a Japanese looted Mt. Gox
Post by: BillyBobZorton on March 12, 2015, 02:13:52 PM
Maybe it was Satoshi himself. The name is Japanese too.
Besides him not needing the money, why would he bring negative press to Bitcoin doing that? it makes no sense.


Title: Re: Maybe a Japanese looted Mt. Gox
Post by: innocent93 on March 12, 2015, 02:26:18 PM
Well, I saw the reports before and that indicates not all Bitcoin being stolen, Mt.Gox might be concerned with the hack, the truth is still complicated after one year, some already forgotten Mt.Gox.


Title: Re: Maybe a Japanese looted Mt. Gox
Post by: Cray4Cryptz on March 12, 2015, 04:24:34 PM
I was looking at the leaked list of accounts which the supposed Mt. Gox "hacker" posted.

One thing you notice is that SOME of the names are "censored", but the names of Americans, Europeans and Russians do not seem to be censored. Just guessing here, but maybe the "censored" names are all the Japanese names. Why would the hacker remove all the Japanese names, but leave in the foreigner names, unless of course the hacker was Japanese.

Hmmmm....


According to this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=962803.0

That willy bot, has no activity when Japanese people are sleeping and then went back to work on Japanese working hours and then goes flat on activity again during the Japanese sleeping hours. Maybe you have a point.


Title: Re: Maybe a Japanese looted Mt. Gox
Post by: TaunSew on March 12, 2015, 04:37:08 PM
Just because it was in Japan doesn't mean there were many Japanese employees.

http://jto.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/b-kraken-a-20140819-870x583.jpg

This is in Japan and it's Kraken, which is full of ex-MtGox employees, and they're led by a blond blue eyed Jesus.  If you look at their company photos, you'ld be hard pressed to find any Japanese present (especially Japanese men - who cares if they have 1 or 2 female Japanese secretaries).

Samething with MtGox - old company photos of them, despite it being in Japan, were all primarily white guys.

There are legit Japanese exchanges in Japan ran by Japanese people but they're still fairly small and only really dealing with Japanese crypto currencies like Mona coin.

https://zaif.jp/trade_btc_jpy
http://cointelegraph.com/news/113623/japans-new-crypto-exchange-aims-to-fill-mtgox-vacuum-improve-bitcoins-image


Title: Re: Maybe a Japanese looted Mt. Gox
Post by: manselr on March 12, 2015, 05:22:13 PM
Maybe it was Satoshi himself. The name is Japanese too.
Cmon man, you watch too many movies. This is bitcointalk.org, not infowars.com


Title: Re: Maybe a Japanese looted Mt. Gox
Post by: thms on March 12, 2015, 06:24:46 PM
Just because it was in Japan doesn't mean there were many Japanese employees.

http://jto.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/b-kraken-a-20140819-870x583.jpg

This is in Japan and it's Kraken, which is full of ex-MtGox employees, and they're led by a blond blue eyed Jesus.  If you look at their company photos, you'ld be hard pressed to find any Japanese present (especially Japanese men - who cares if they have 1 or 2 female Japanese secretaries).

Samething with MtGox - old company photos of them, despite it being in Japan, were all primarily white guys.

There are legit Japanese exchanges in Japan ran by Japanese people but they're still fairly small and only really dealing with Japanese crypto currencies like Mona coin.

https://zaif.jp/trade_btc_jpy
http://cointelegraph.com/news/113623/japans-new-crypto-exchange-aims-to-fill-mtgox-vacuum-improve-bitcoins-image


the picture is the US offices, not in Japan.


Title: Re: Maybe a Japanese looted Mt. Gox
Post by: Wendigo on March 12, 2015, 06:27:00 PM
I was wondering why would you locate your business in Japan and not in the USA for example. Is it more cost-effective to run the deals from there?
Or maybe the regulations are more lax on the crypto currencies.


Title: Re: Maybe a Japanese looted Mt. Gox
Post by: TaunSew on March 12, 2015, 06:42:15 PM
I was wondering why would you locate your business in Japan and not in the USA for example. Is it more cost-effective to run the deals from there?
Or maybe the regulations are more lax on the crypto currencies.

Regulations are very lax and essentially non-existent.   Japan is in the middle of the recession and typically the last thing you do, in a recession, is chase away capital and jobs (unless you are the United States).  That's primarily the reason why all those Bitcoin companies are going to Japan.


Still Japan is still a dangerous place to run your business because Japanese prisons are infamous for being among the worst / most punishing in the developed world.  So you don't want to be running a business in Japan and find out one day, overnight, you broke some new law.   Prisoners come out of Japanese prisons sickly and malnourished.  Not like the European prisons people on BTT are used to where you get to play video games and eat off the smorgasbord and they let you go home on the weekends.



Title: Re: Maybe a Japanese looted Mt. Gox
Post by: calme on March 12, 2015, 06:50:31 PM
European prisons do seem like little panaceas that don't consist of being shanked by Mexican gangbangers or wearing lipstick in the shower with half of Detroit. I didn't know that J-prisons were hellholes, though.


Title: Re: Maybe a Japanese looted Mt. Gox
Post by: smoothie on March 12, 2015, 06:52:04 PM
maybe a chinese looted mt.gox


lol



Title: Re: Maybe a Japanese looted Mt. Gox
Post by: altcoinex on March 12, 2015, 07:18:40 PM
Maybe a Frenchman living in japan looted Mt. Gox.
And by maybe I mean.....


Title: Re: Maybe a Japanese looted Mt. Gox
Post by: Gleb Gamow on March 12, 2015, 07:25:41 PM
If it wasn't a jap then you just know it was a german who did this.

And, if not a German, than an albino pygmy residing in a plush hut on the banks of the Amazon.


Title: Re: Maybe a Japanese looted Mt. Gox
Post by: sniveling on March 12, 2015, 07:46:36 PM
Maybe a Frenchman living in japan looted Mt. Gox.
And by maybe I mean.....

It could have been his staff. If there's no evidence they can all point at each other and simultaneously say "it must have been him". Anyone with physical access to the servers could have pulled it off, and I heard their physical security was useless.


Title: Re: Maybe a Japanese looted Mt. Gox
Post by: calme on March 12, 2015, 08:00:11 PM
And they really can point at each other, b/c they're all on the Gox private cruise ship now doing speedballs in a Jacuzzi full of models.


Title: Re: Maybe a Japanese looted Mt. Gox
Post by: Wendigo on March 12, 2015, 09:22:15 PM
All I have read in the media pointed to mark karpeles draining mt. gox accounts and he is being prosecuted right now no?


Title: Re: Maybe a Japanese looted Mt. Gox
Post by: Beatkoyn on March 13, 2015, 05:42:14 AM
I was looking at the leaked list of accounts which the supposed Mt. Gox "hacker" posted.

One thing you notice is that SOME of the names are "censored", but the names of Americans, Europeans and Russians do not seem to be censored. Just guessing here, but maybe the "censored" names are all the Japanese names. Why would the hacker remove all the Japanese names, but leave in the foreigner names, unless of course the hacker was Japanese.

Hmmmm....


According to this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=962803.0

That willy bot, has no activity when Japanese people are sleeping and then went back to work on Japanese working hours and then goes flat on activity again during the Japanese sleeping hours. Maybe you have a point.

Yeah, the location might be in Japan but it doesnt mean that Japanese people are behind it.


Title: Re: Maybe a Japanese looted Mt. Gox
Post by: uglybird on March 13, 2015, 02:47:13 PM
I was looking at the leaked list of accounts which the supposed Mt. Gox "hacker" posted.

One thing you notice is that SOME of the names are "censored", but the names of Americans, Europeans and Russians do not seem to be censored. Just guessing here, but maybe the "censored" names are all the Japanese names. Why would the hacker remove all the Japanese names, but leave in the foreigner names, unless of course the hacker was Japanese.

Hmmmm....


According to this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=962803.0

That willy bot, has no activity when Japanese people are sleeping and then went back to work on Japanese working hours and then goes flat on activity again during the Japanese sleeping hours. Maybe you have a point.

Yeah, the location might be in Japan but it doesnt mean that Japanese people are behind it.

it might be them or it might not be them
The incident happened a long time ago but until now there is no suspect of any race.