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_Offering loans up to .2_
_Need to put up something {anything is considered} for collateral_
_Apply in Following format_

Amount:
Length:
Interest rate:
What for:
Address:
Facebook:
Skype:

**MUST have Facebook account and Skype**

_Interest may be changed by me due to situation_

Days ago you were asking for loans and now here you are offering one.. seems pretty legit

*PLEASE USE ESCROW WHEN DEALING WITH THESE USER

Does the collateral have to be worth more than the full loan? Unfortunately this doesn't look very legitimate as you have negative trust and are only new. Nothing bad on you but please use full escrow if you are looking for a loan.

either facebook nor skype account can be faked as it is very to hack those
you need more info of how many % does the collateral will represent the ammount of the loan

and also since you got red trust from  constantly asking for loan , id suggest that

Collateral should be handed by an escrow

why you need too much information if collateral is needed?

Where can I find a trusted escrow?

This is the first time here offering loans , im learning.

lol... really ?? Man, you were asking for loans every day and now you pretend you have money you can lend ?

==> loan request 1 : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=953547.msg10494313#msg10494313
==> loan request 2 : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=750507.msg10456336#msg10456336
==> loan request 3 : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=947801.msg10721412#msg10721412

It looks really suspicious... do not deal with him without escrow.. (there is a list of trusted escrow somewhere on the forum.. can't find it right now)

LoL , you people are jokes and lowlifes.

I cant request a loan without being a scammer , now I cant give one either.

Pretty shitty community if you ask me.

Trying to do something for someone , that they wouldn't do for me here.

_Have given out .3 alone today in loans @ Betcoin forums. Feel free to check it out._

https://www.betcoin.ag/betcoinpokers-trillmywatch-makes-6-final-tables-one-session

What doesn't make sense is that the article was posted on March 5th, yet you are asking for a loan on March 8 which was after that point leading me to believe you lost all your money gambling on the table. Now, you are offering loans from money you don't have and now are asking for Skype and Facebook information to spam people with. Why do you need all this extra information? What are you going to do with it?

It also shows me that you're asking for anything in collateral making me think that you are in debt to someone. You're going to do a collateral scam.

Some days im up , some days im down.

Im offering a service and a favor for people.

Not a scammer , I have many references @ Betcoin.

Have done transactions over ฿4 coins.

AGAIN PEOPLE , please stop harassing my threads unless it is relevant to the post topic.

Okay. Will you accept escrow?

Another question is why would you be able to change the interest rate?

I would love escrow , I know nobody here personally.

As the lender , I should reserve the right to settle on interest rate , no?

Of course you can set any conditions as long as you follow your own rules.
What you can't do is say you will return the collateral and then run with it.

To prevent that, you need to do this:
- Have the other person send the collateral to a trusted escrow.
- You send the loan to the other person.
- After the other person pays you back the escrow gives back the collateral.

If something seems fishy of course people will point it out, no matter whether you're asking for a loan or giving it.

Is there a place to find a trusted escrow?

wtf man, you just asked for a loan and now you are giving them? Its not a bad idea to provide loans for profit, but if you are loaning the capital you use to provide YOUR loans, you will lose profit off the interest you pay. I would reccomend just putting fiat in, no sense in hurting your profits.

I have no active loans , this is all personal funds.

What is "fiat"?

Fiat currency is government backed, we usually refer to it when referring to other currencies like USD or CAD, so in this case would mean pulling cash out of your bank account. If this is all personal funds, and you have enough to provide loans, why would you need one? Just wondering

Here are a couple of lists you can check:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=108716.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=276897.0

Keep in mind many escrows are away on holiday. Devthedev has not repleied to any PMs in a week regarding transferring the account to him, so I think you should rule him out until the holidays over, unless he's just gone for a short period of time.

Thanks ^^

I play Poker for a living. So I have funds incoming and outgoing pretty much 24hrs/day.

You're a very poor poker player, because you are always asking for loans.  Find a new line of work.

I would not have said you are gambling loans, pretty much removes all chances of getting loans. People don't loan to people who gamble, because while there is a chance of getting your interest back, with gambling, you lose a bit more than half of the time so changes are in the favor of not getting your money back

I DO NOT gamble. There is a HUGE difference.

You just posted that you gamble for a living.   ::)

Poker is a sport.

Had I said I PLAYED PingPong for a living , would that be gambling?

Yes you do gamble, you are playing poker, which you just admitted and I have quoted. Theres not a huge difference. Some people think they have a "winning strategy" for gambling but in reality it is impossible to have a "winning strategy" or else all casinos would be bankrupt. Just because you have a lucky strategy in poker does not mean it would be good for profit.

Ok and blackjack is a sport.
HOW IS POKER A SPORT??? Doesn't sports have to be physically active? That does not make sense. Also pingpong isn't played with money or poker chips, its simple a game of score. Poker you have to bet and win.

I suggest you get educated before you pretend to know what you are talking about. :)

I suggest YOU get educated before classifying poker as a "sport".
Here is the definition of sport
an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.
From the dictionary
Involving "physical exertion".
Last time I checked poker does not provide physical exertion.

Professional Poker players don't exist?

Ive never heard of Professional BJ or Slot players.

There are most def. professional Poker players.

You're not a professional poker player.  You need to take out loans to survive.

Yes they exist, never said that they didn't, but you stated that poker was a sport, when it is clearly not. And it is clearly gambling if you can gain or lose money based on chance. Here is the definition of gambling:
play games of chance for money; bet.

All of which you do in poker

This is going to be my last comment on the matter before I delete this thread and report all your usernames to the moderator for spam and harassment.

You all denied me loans in past due to being new and a non active member of community.

I start to offer loans as a service , and you people still find a problem with that and continue to call me a scammer.

You all should do your homework better before talking about something in which you know nothing about.

If you continue to harass my posts , I will begin to mark you all with negative trusts , along with more emails to moderator.

Untill I do something to prove my intentions are bad , you all need to piss off.

We gave you a second chance.  We told you what you were doing was untrustworthy to the community and gave you a chance to have the negative trust removed.  You decided to ignore our advice and continue to scam.  Now you are permanently marked as untrustworthy.



Oh boo hoo.  Go away.  I refuse to let you delete this thread. 

Wow slow down buddy boy.
First off no one cares if you delete the thread, your only hurting yourself.
Second its a forum "custom" to harass newbies who are asking loans which are very large
Third, you didn't even know the definition of sport or gambling so I would ask you to do your homework
And forth, you had us all laughing saying that poker was a sport....

Well... Ive been reading this thread and let me tell you that everyone is been a bit hard with op.
As I know he didnt scam yet to nobody, maybe he has the intentions but he didnt.
He might deserve and opportunity. ..
And by the way. .. poker is consider a sport.
Regards

Which is why he is marked as untruthworthy.  He hasn't scammed anyone yet.


He's planning to however...

It says under the trust thing that leaving trust if you "have reason to believe they are going to scam" then you can leave it. So the big red marking will reduce the chance of him getting deals which he will scam on. Its just a warning, and vod allows you to appeal your negative trust in a month if he REALLY wants to stay here a while

TrillMyWatch, please stop entertaining us with your silly answer, VoD caught you lying and now you're posting nonsense now..

Lying about what lol

About not posting anymore for one...

Lying saying that first you didn't gamble, then you said you did poker as your job, and now you are saying poker isn't gambling. Those are all lies and you are caught in quotes with them. Generally you don't want to lie as you do business with people

Just do this if you want to prove yourself, it's quite simple:

• Lock this thread.
• Contact an escrow willing to hold the collateral from your loans.
• Create a new thread clearly explaining the rules and mentioning who will escrow.

If you put yourself in a situation where you cannot scam then nobody will accuse you to scam.

We come from different worlds.

Poker isn't Gambling.

Poker IS a sport.

Then don't do business with me brah

Will do.

I highly disagree with your first statement. Poker is gambling because you gamble your money for a chance to win or lose. As for your second statement, it depends on the definition of sport because some people classify legue of legends and dota as sports while some do not.

you gain money if you win and you lose some if you lose, how is that not gambling?

I think what he is trying to say is the following : In poker, you can "influence" your luck. If you have some skill you have the possibilty to increase your winning chance even with "bad" hands. You also need to focus a lot and be patient unlike slot machines where you just need luck.. So poker is not "pure" gambling...

Same with blackjack with that logic. If you didn't choose to hit on that you would have won, and you use your "skill" to know the odds of hitting on a 18 or not.

Not always that u gambling ur money can be consider gambling...
If u pay an entry for a tennis tournament for example,  or chess torney. .. That is not gamble!
Also poker cant be compare to black jack, nothing to do with it.
Regards

Thats not a gamble though, I guess its the same thing as saying paying your ticket to a theme park is a "gamble". Paying an entrance fee is different than actively betting money. And why can't poker be compared to blackjack? Both are gambling games and both you can win or lose money.

Not really the same poker than black jack!
In Black Jack as more u play more u will lose. Its not possible to win at the end. Odds are against you.
In poker some players as more the play more they win.

I was a casino dealer and I know what im saying...
Regards!

Its like roullete,  u cannot beat casino games.
Poker is different, is a game of skills like chess, pool, darts. ...

Wasn't this a lending thread?
OP please lock this topic and do use escrow next time.