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The current highest rank here is Legendary with 775-1030 activity points to achieve. Perhaps we can have a higher rank at like 1300-1400 points? Like 'History Maker' or 'Part of Bitcoin History' etc.?
It's just a suggestion. You can take or not take it.

How about Vodlike ?

That's Vodtastic!

Maybe it would be a good idea, but the range should be more random (more than the actual legendary).

Good idea, this forum are getting old with the time passes by.

I'm sure as time goes on more ranks will be added but I don't think they're needed just yet. There's not that many legendaries at the moment but that will change within a year or so.

Personally I don't care a lot about the name of the rank.
However ... in my opinion I think that the last rank is the one that should be Random so basically if we add a new rank , It should have Random activity instead of Legendary , and we setup Legendary for something like 900 Activity (stable) .

~ Madness

For what would another Rank be needed for? I don't see any other perks that a higher ranked member can obtain other than receiving rights to change their names or letting have their own custom title.

If a another is to be added, I say "Satoshi's Best Friend" should be added if the activity is around 2000.

I like that! +10! :)

These can also be added:

• Jr. Legendary.
• Legendary
• Sr. Legendary
• Hero Legendary.

I think this should go for some years.

How about a special rank for those that have "endured" the old forum software? Like a title or something. I done know, maybe VOD (very old damsel) ;)

How about a new "Legendary Jail"?
On Mondays (for example) the highest ranking members are only allowed to post in one section?
// Joking  ;D

this would be great xD

if ever i like to see new forums ranks :)

Vodzilla is more appropriate for you ;D

I don't count licking a boob guy rank as achievement.

This forum doesn't need more ranks. Full, Senior, Hero, Legendary are enough.

i love that "Veteran" rank.. hope they can put it in like 2000 activity points :)

Somehow, having a “Jr. Legendary” sounds contradictory to me.

Exactly what I thought. Would be silly and possibly confusing to split the Legendary rank like this. Higher ranks can just be added later on when needed but I don't think they will be for a while.

In my opinion i think the best option will be 'Mythical Member'  ;D

"Part of the furniture"

honestly though, there aren't many users who are legendary let alone higher than that. 

How about make a new ranking system and completely remove this one?
Obviously people who already had ranks should accordingly be given new ones. There is a lack of ranks here (possibly even a different system). As time goes by even 'Legendary' won't make a unique group of people. Just look at the number of seniors and heroes that we have today.

As time goes on new ranks will likely be added as and when needed. There's not that many Legendary accounts at the moment but in a year or so it'll likely be a different story so I'm sure a higher rank will be added then (or the activity limit to become Legebdary could be raised).

FTFY.
Well the would be okay if we weren't getting a expensive forum. Adding ranks to this one would be okay, just as it was when Legendary was introduced. A revamp of the whole feature would be great, since the one that we have here is pretty much boring (the stars..).

I know we have already discussed about the rank's color and I think it will be easy to add this option. Each rank has an own color, for example :


newbie
jr. member
member
Sr. member
Hero
Legendary
Staff

Or something like that, so the write under the username will be of that color and it can also protect "against" the fake users (that are trying to scam).

don't know if that would be a good idea.. those bright names would make the site looks too colorful.
some doesn't like that, I'm sure.

Being able to differentiate between ranks and/or staff by colours or something else wouldn't be a bad idea. As far it being too colourful or flashy I don't think it'd be any more intrusive that signatures or avatars.

Maybe the staff can choose another scheme of colors, my previous posts was only an "idea" but the colors can easily change.



Yes of course, the colorful ranks will not be more intrusive than the various signatures or "avatar" so I think it would be a very great choice.

Well honestly it is, if you have VGA resolution (640x480).  :D The ranks on my FHD and QHD are so tiny that it would barely make a difference if the colors get changed. I mean that wouldn't hurt, but the right colors have to be picked out. Something random won't work, it would actually make things worse.
Maybe even replace those golden tokens under the ranks with something else?

i like it, the more rank the more fun, it should be at 2k points and should be called God/Eternal(if god is not allowed)

so:

newbie/junior member/member/fullmember/senior member/hero member/legendary/god or eternal

btw who suggested "staff", staff is already used on some users

how about Bitcoin Monk?? reference to shaolin monks

Please, no.

Although you can disable/hide avatars & signatures.

hahaha why not, it will be nice i think :D its another standard

What could be more than a Legendary member? Maybe an Idol one!
 ;D

Yes , new rank can be added. And at least it should be about 2000 activity.

But also some changes are needed for activity system.
For ex: 1 post in gambling should nt be equal to some post in discussions topic. Maybe,  also like system can affect activity more than regular posts.

Anyway,  my rank name suggestions are Students of Satoshi (SoS) , or Sub-Satoshi  ;D

Posts in all boards should be treated equally for activity/posts.

Sub-satoshi isn't good and it may confuse others. -1.

There's really no need to complicate the activity system even more. Many people already don't understand it and this would just confuse people and flood Meta with even more questions asking how activity works.

IMO adding a new rank above legendary would be pointless. reaching 2000 activity will take a long, long, long time. and legendary members are scarce in the first place.

After a while they will become more common though and eventually everyone who is active will likely become Legendary so new ranks should be added over time.

Can I suggest an opposite thing (related with the ranks). Why not decrease the activity when an user been banned (for spam reason) this should improve the quality of all the posts and I am sure the users will put more attention in what they write here (in the forum). That was just my personal opinion and I don't think it is necessary to add a new rank, but I am still supporting the color for each rank.

It should be good idea. What if the ban was for PM spam? Does this still apply or only for "substantial posts"?

P.S. Admins should tell about this in the ban notice or else, we will have to see many threads in Meta.

How about Vod Blamer?
Im blaming Vod for this thread.

Don't drag user's name into this.

If you really like it, put "Vid blamer" in personal message.

I don't think this is a good idea. Activity would only really matter much to signature advertisers and from what I gather some sort of signature bans that can be dished out to individually users as a punishment were being looked into by BadBear and theymos.

Im just kidding,mate.
But Im still gonna blame Vod for this.

Why are you blaming Vod? The topic's starter wasn't him, it was another user called yatyatling. But he has the first reply of this:

Im blaming Vod because of him, I suggest "Vod blamer" for a new rank.

Disabling signature will do the work too.

Most people nowadays are banned for sig spam, so decreasing their activity may also make their rank go down, not all time, but will and also, this increases the time for their promotion. So I think this is a good idea but may not be good as disabling signature.

It might not make their rank go down either. There's quite a substantial amount of activity to be gained between FM to Snr and Snr to Hero so it won't have much difference if you're in between those ranks. A signature ban will be far more effective in these instances.

The solution to this is adjust the current rankings, not create new ones.

I think by "adjusting", you meant to increase activity for ranks. I don't think this is better than adding new rank and also this look unjust towards new members to me.

Nah, I don't think so. I think it would be unfair if people were getting demoted. If the ranks keep getting longer and longer to achieve it wouldn't be bad (say five years to get the next level after Legendary then eventually ten after that for example).

What about an auxiliary penalty to be included with temp bans? Like an halving of amount of activity that can be earned after the expiration of the same ban? As an example, If someone got banned for 14 days after the ban expired, in the next 14 days he could earn only 50% of activity. If he got banned for 60 days after the ban expired, in the next 60 days he could earn only 50% of activity.

It "similar" to my suggestion, but I have asked the diminution of the activity for each ban so also if someone received 2-5 ban he can continuing post after his ban (with the limitation of the ranks but he cannot wear a properly signature).

I just got an idea..

how about adding a secondary rank? A rank which depends on a user's post quality or their average number of words per post?
post quality can be decided by users, but some kind of "like" button feature is required.
 (which can only be used by full members and above. I think this should be obvious, but oh well.)

I think that will decrease the low-quality posts a bit... maybe

I don't think so.


Additional rank is better.


It will have to be done manually and if it is, this rank will be suit best as a badge. I don't like it even if it is a badge though.


It will only increase spams. People will put more crap in their post to get this rank.


It can be easily misused using alts.

Overall, no from me.

In fact most of the signature campaigns now don't count low quality posts. So the signature spams also won't be counted. I hope that people can think before they post.

Can we have "Part of the infrastructure" for the level above that ;)

Are you sure about that? I think managers do check the posts but I don't think all managers check all posts and campaigns using bots will count spams and it may not count substantial posts. Most bots check the number of words in user's post which is wrong to check whether a post is substantial or spam. Some spams may look like substantial post. It is hard to know "real" intention of the user. I do think signature campaigns increase spams.

I agree your point, but you have a typo (bolded) :)

Simple the signature campaigns maintainers should accept only valid users in their sig. campaign if the allow each user to enroll it is normal that the spam will increase (but as someone said yesterday (a well know term term) "any publicity is a good publicity") because more posts >> more view of the signature but when you try to write more the quality of the posts will drop.

It's not only about publicity, but also about SEO. The more links to a site, the better it will get ranked. That is, at least as far as I know.

i like that idea too  :)

But hey, I don't think the new forum will be here for a while either.

I've got the best words or phrases for a new rank. How about "Iconic" or "The Icon" or maybe even "Hall of Famer" or "Hall of Fame Inductee".

What about something like "Insane Member" :D

lol...there is already a higher rank...after legendry rank you will get staff rank

But, isn't the Staff rank given to people who, you know, is staff?

I like BitLord

yes i have seen many users with staff rank,donatorrank,vip rank,founder rank,co-founder rank....i mean to say that after legendry rank ..if you want ferther ranks then you have to spend money for that

I don't think there's any co-founder rank...

P.S.
I just found out that about 300.000 of 500.000 total users of bitcointalk are all brand new   :o

Spambots maybe

I like the way the system works now. I don't think we really need to change the class order. However, the appearance of the member type could do with a new design.

I think there should be a new forum section for legendary members.  We have one for donators, but there are so few donators left on this site that the section is mostly dead.  Perhaps allowing legendary (or higher) ranks to be able to have their own section might allow some of us old timers to relive the glory days here.

I don't disagree with it and could be persuaded either way but if it's something many other older/Legendary members wanted then maybe, but like the Donator section I don't think it'd be that active but maybe you could put it to a vote or something.

I had suggested changing the activity requirements to powers of 2. That would make it more consistent with 'bit'.

A scaling may also be added, to restrict signature displaying capacity. It would go some way in beating the extra posting we see today.

I don't get the randomness of ranks, how one person can have to have been around for a year longer than another to get the same rank.

Well it's based on how active you have been during the two-week periods. If you miss posting at least once in a period you lose the activity points forever. It makes sense rather than someone creating an account years ago and forgetting about it then reappearing and looking like he's an active 'long-time' member.

If you're talking about Legendary rank then I agree, it makes no sense.

That would be awesome to have another rank and also may be one more lower then Legendary too?
The idea behind having more ranks will surely be good , also making another section for Legendary members is nice too, hopefully i will be able to get in it soon too if it comes :D .

My idea is that instead of adding new ranks, there can be badges depending on the date you signed up... So if you signed up in 2011, when the forum began (I believe), You could get a badge that says "Pioneer".  If you signed up in 2012, you could get a badge that said "Early adopter", and so on.

I think there should also be a rank in-between full member and senior member as well as between senior member and legend.

There is no need of rank between Full Member and Senior Member and there is already a rank between Senior Member and Legendary known as Hero Member.

It should be named "Disciple of Satoshi" , and he/she should receive a medal with satoshi's (imaginary) face on it!

You mean, a face like this?

 :)

Nah, i dont think satoshi is a 13 year old guy, or not even similar looking.

I think Dorian Nakamoto's face is probably very similar to satoshi's face. He is probably in his 50's and probably a very high IQ guy, working in IT and probably has glasses and grey hair like that guy.

if a new rank is to be added the randomness of the legendary rank should be removed

How about "Guardian Legend" :D

How about instead of ranks we add some badges/achievements?
Look for instance on Kickass: https://kat.cr/achievements/

It shouldn't be hard to do and it is definitely neat. It is definitely better than adding some random ranks.

That's a very good idea.  I really hope that they can have something like that, like an awards system.  Maybe it'll come out in the new forum? 

Ranks aren't random (except Legendary I guess but even that requires a minimum). What would be the point of achievements and why are ranks not just like them? Most of them on Kickass just seem silly and unnecessary as well. And what would they be given out for here?

I never said that the current ranks are random. I said that it would be better than to make new random titles and adding it. Besides soon a lot of people are going to become Hero and Legendary members.
What is the point of achievements in just about anything? Why do video games keep adding achievements? That should answer it.
The forum is quite monotonous. Kickass has hidden achievements as well which makes things more interesting.

I'm not saying that we should add something like "Left first comment.".


Update: Where did I state that the forum was a video game? You do realize that this forum doesn't have to be grim and dull, right?

Yeah i really think something new should be added/done to this forum

it's kind of being old  :(

The forum isn't a video a game. New ranks can be added as and when needed just like Legendary was. The ranks are just a way to show the age / activity of an account.

The forum isn't a video game, but there's no reason why we can't implement gamification in it. The Stack Exchange network does something similar (with points and achievements), and I think it works fine, encouraging people to give useful answers.

When you are saying achievements, I started to think, other than the current activity count, what can we do? Then I think of post counts and time logged in. Although post counts can be boosted by making many useless posts here, the total time logged in must be real time. Maybe shall we make a new rank for those who have one of the highest values of the total time logged in?

There shouldn't be a rank based on logged in time as 'Total time logged in' can be manipulated easily. See 'Most Time Online' in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats.

You're right. Total time logged in is often manipulated via a reloader extension and similar software. The total time logged in can be boosted without getting in trouble, while you might get banned if you boost your posts too much (spam).

There are plenty things that we can do for achievements. I've already stated that other websites have these and they are a nice addition to the overall experience when one is spending time on a forum.
Here is an example on Kickass: https://kat.cr/achievements/

I would like a badge for achievements here, like Spammer Exterminator. It would be nice to have some sort of recognition to those who correctly report lots of posts violating forum rules (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0).  :)

There already is one. It's called Staff  ;).

Then, for how many posts reported to moderator that a user will become a Staff?

There is no fixed number of reports but if you report a lot with decent accuracy you may get asked eventually.

I'am curious about something , I know that you should report enough to be a staff member however ... how they are calculated ? I mean reports in Overall I mean in general ? or Theymos/BadBear see average of reports daily/weekly/monthly ?

I like the badge idea, you could have good or bad achievements:

Troll badge for excessive trolling
Spam badge for spamming a certain number of posts over a given length of time
Caution badge for noob accounts requesting loans
Report badge for reaching a specific number of accurate reports (Grand_Voyageur's idea)

Actually the averages aren't important. The important is number of reported posts and accuracy. The thing is if your accuracy is very low you are actually wasting the moderators time rather than helping them.
It would be good to have 90+% accuracy at least, however I've seen people with almost 100%.

If scammer tags were removed then these features aren't going to be added. Who is going to want to take the time to investigate and dish out badges for trolling or spamming? Imagine the crying in Meta when people are branded with such a tag as well? If they're breaking the rules in whatever way then they should just be dealt with in the existing ways of negative feedback or bans etc.

Thought that could be your job to add badges to members profiles ;)

Yeah it was just an idea, would only work if it was automated though I'm not sure how it would work for trolling (the other 3 could tho).
Could add a whinge badge for people crying Meta

Even if I ever became renowned for spam extermination, I'd rather not become staff >:(
Just give me a shiny medal to brag with! ;D

True.
Plus, not everybody can become staff. ;)

IMO if needed new rank above legendary rank is suggest the new rank is WARRIOR Member

This is exactly what I was thinking of. A lot of people will start suggesting random names for ranks that aren't really good.
Exactly what would be the difference between a badge and an achievement? Both could work, but you'd need space for the badges to be viewed and a whole page for achievements.
I guess anything would be beneficial to spice up the experience. Besides in a year or two we will have too many legendary members, won't we?

It's interesting, but why? Legendary seems aged = good.

I don't think we need a new rank on our forum, but rather that we should only edit currently existing ones.
The thing i would add to current ranking is "numbers of experience" in form of stars attached next to profile..

You very often see people creating account and trust farming it to oblivion, making people think how that person is highly trusted ,
when in fact the person is just like one year present on the forum or something..

Instead of new ranks, we can better double the amount of time needed to move from rank level to rank level.

So for example, to become a full member you have to wait like 9 activity periods of each 2 weeks.

If you double that to 18 activity periods of each 2 weeks, then account farming will be less interesting as it takes much more time, and it also takes you much longer before you reach a certain member level.

That would just furthermore increase sales of forum accounts , which are one of the worst evils present here.
The ONLY way to deal with majority of issues would simply be to remove signatures alltogeather, then no one would complain about membership, or account farming.

Maybe there should not be a new rank but some bonus system where you could for example buy some user title or something simillar ?

If you donate funds to the forum , you can get custom VIP title of your own desire. Price ? A tiny price of 50 btc ...
The idea behind donations is good, but the amounts are way beyond real. They should be lowered atleast by factor of 10.

hehe, good one

Yeah, provably they will. You cant just stuck on that ranking because every added activities for everytime you post will be in vain. I would like to see this in the future. Its very hard to rank this days. I think it will be more challenging for us to achieve that kind of rank.

You're right, there's a whole generation of users that will become Legendary, and this rank will get what Sr. Member is nowadays, cool but not so much awesome.

This one is magic sounding but I like Epic member myself.

It just sounds cool like being Elite or Alpha. But to an epic level of awesomeness. ;)

There was really no need to quote my post back from 2015. I don't think there are a lot of legendary (yet). I'm sure that someone could run the numbers (which may be a bit difficult considering the status of the members page).

I disagree with it. People shouldn't get a rank like that just because they were active for a few years. You can already occasionally see some hero/legendary members that have very limited or flawed understanding of Bitcoin.

Well it was just a suggestion.

So it would be safe to say you hate the hackforum rank naming system as that would be misleading of their membership classes too. :-\

Or is saying that name of that particular forum a bad word? :D

I'm not familiar with that particular naming system and my search engine has provided me with inadequate results in the amount of time that I've spent researching.

I'm saying the system isn't optimal at all, in addition to those type of names making it worse. It makes it seem like those members are "trusted" or have "knowledge" regarding Bitcoin, when we know that time spent on the forum is not the causation for that.

You ... have your own search engine!! Wow  :o :o


here is my list anyway  8)

1250 Vodlike
1500 EPIC
2500 ndnh
5000 Admin
7777 Founder
10000 Spammer

(edited)


P.S. Is it Google?

Yeah i really think some new rank should be added.

10,000 activity = 30 years.
I doubt if Bitcoin will survive that long, forget Bitcointalk.  ;D

There is 1095 Legendary members. The oldest one register in 2009-12-10 (The only Legendary member from 2009 :clap:) and the most recent one is from 2014-09-26. The number should be correct if the "Search members" - by position is working correctly (it seem to work correctly).

EDIT: More stats :

• 2009: 1 Legendary
• 2010: 38 Legendary - Total: 39
• 2011: 256 Legendary - Total: 295
• 2012: 142 Legendary - Total: 437
• 2013: 480 Legendary - Total: 917
• 2014: 178 Legendary - Total: 1095

What if instead of a new rank, if we could lost activity, say lose one point per day that you dont log in starting after 90 days, or lose X amount of points per Y amount of days you go without posting.

You would still have people accumulating activity and beyond a point, there would be legendary accounts with a large difference in activity.
We haven't reached that point yet, but when we do, it would be nice to have a new rank there.

A lot more people joined and stayed in 2013 than 2014! That doesn't surprise me but it's a pretty huge difference. Thanks for the info.


The majority of the forum would still be legendary at some point so it makes the entire legendary title pointless if everyone else is also legendary.

Well how about "King" :D

No. Read the thread before responding. At this time, it is highly unlikely that theymos is going to introduce a new rank / new ranking system.

How about "immortal" or "OG" for 2000+ activity

Satoshi Jr.

Did you guys manage to read the post above yours?
Or did you decide to go ahead and post any way.  :P

Can i get to see somewhere where a  member would take some days/months to reach the next position..?

I would like to see how much days/months will take for me for next position

<my current dynamic number> Dumb-assanator  :P :P :P

http://www.startrek.com/legacy_media/images/200508/mov-006-chang-on-bridge/320x240.jpg
"To watch or not watch this thread? That is the question."

See here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178608

Beyond ranks it would also be quite interesting if there's something like points that can be gained through various means. For instance the amount of people that read and like one's posts, the amount of reputation and post length and quality etc. could be determining factors for such a point system

edit: other than the post right under mine, I was actually not suggesting a point system where points can be redeemed for rewards. Just something more than post count -- I love statistics, and I enjoy getting points for my account's activity.

Yeah I like the idea of a points system. The points can then be redeemed for special prizes like bitcoin merchandise when the forum became bigger and have more budget.

it will be nice after 5 years of activities you get a veteran badge :) :)

There could be a "thanks" tab added for useful posts, and then under your user name it could show how many "thanks" you have gotten.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=622992.0

I have been considering what happens after Legendary. The suggestion of a veteran is apt. The new rank of a veteran should be considered.

What about Hero after Legendary as in DC's legends of tomorrow the legends aren't good enough to be heroes so they are legends instead lol.

Also, after Hero, you could have Superhero ;)

Good point to think about. But may I ask, Has anyone got to the last activity point of Legendary Member? If so did the person retire from the forum?

Hahaha! This cracked me up. Sounds like a great idea for the members who have contributed for years to this forum, would definitely be worth it for them.

IMO if anything above Legendary gets created, it should be called "IMMORTAL SHITPOSTER" not to say that they shitposted their way up there but just to say hey, this forum was built on shitposts lol

/JOKING

I think there should be a new rank after Legendary that requires x amount of activity but also a huge amount of merit which will then only be awarded to the best contributors here. Maybe even some more special privileges could come along with that rank. I've previously suggested that a Premium donator rank could be created with such privileges as the ability to have an image banner in your signature or the ability to change your name etc and those would be good additions to this rank and something to strive for. There's currently not much that becoming Legendary offers other than the title to be honest and it's becoming far too common now so a new rank would be beneficial in numerous ways in my opinion.  

The custom title suggestion seemed to be the best. :)

I admire most of the people here. They are mostly my predecessors. I admire them for their contribution to this forum.

They reduce the number of posts. Instead they use more MERIT points to increase their rank. I think this will help avoid abuse of forum SPAM status.

I can't imagine what it would feel like to get out of the newbie rank. I'm hoping to move up in rank soon.  :D

If only ranking is still based on the old system, I would suggest to add Ancient rank which ranks higher than the Legendary or maybe after the Veteran rank, as most of the posters here suggest. They deserved that rank for being active on the forum for a long time.

Its quite good idea and my perspective is i think a prodigy something like that its cool though with 1300-1400 points i guess its better to have a rank like a prodigy.

I Suggest FoundingFather. But as of today new requirements for promotion is a very difficult to achieve.

This  is great! It will really be motivational for us who are aiming to rank up.

It sounds like a good idea, but not one to implement any time soon. Reason would be I foresee more backlash from lower ranking members who are already complaining about the merit system, and how difficult it is to rank up at their stage, and how its easier for already high ranking members. I would suggest we let the whole merit thing be a normality first, then we can implement a new level.

I think it is a brilliant idea. Its makes such an apreciation to old member who always participate on forum discussion and help another member to learn somethings that usefull.

Not a bad idea i but i think instead of that there can be more option like karma. I have seen there is now a days a lot of forum like bitcoin talk that's why i think more features should have added to maintain it's on uniquity.

Very nice idea.. I think more rank should be added to the forum, but i still wonder why they upgrade of ranks has suddenly stopped.

It has to do with the merit system... Upgrading your ranks now will take much more effort then before, if you are lucky enough to get some merits.

Good luck!!

Don't you guys think, that will be more Gamification of the Forum. I think what we have in the forum is already good and hard to achieve. Considering the Number of Legendaries to Total number of Members (the number is quite small in percentage).

I don't see any need for it unless Legendaries loose will to post their awesome content after reaching maximum level and have no motivation. And I don't think that will be the case.

Anyway, I am just a few days old. But wanted to put my opinion.

Maybe this is the newest Ranking implemented in the entire forum LOL ;D
https://i.imgur.com/PUezpBzl.png

Surprising!

After a while, there will be higher levels. I look forward to that day. I also think there will have:
• Jr. Legendary.
• Legendary
• Sr. Legendary
• Hero Legendary
As people said