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My main Account: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=359905
Name: josef2000

Why have I been banned today?! The ban reason says insubstantial post+sig ad
My posts were not insubstantial etc in any way(at least in my opinion). So may any moderator please give me a more detailed reason? Would be great to hear what I actually did wrong.

If there is a reasonable reason, I wont to try to complain, but now I just dont know what I did wrong and have no clue why I got this punishment.

Thanks

Regards,
josef2000

EDIT:
Ban time is 60 days
Why have I been rebanned for ban evasion?! And the ban period is "extended"??? I am NOT bittyfree or someone else! Pleaseee... Forum mods or admins, sort this out.
I have has trades with bittyfree (Escrows like Quickseller, may you confirm it???). I have known him since I startes using bitcoin, he started a faucet bittyfree.com (Equinoxx-the designer please confirm) - I helped him setting it up, thats why we have good contact.

Forum mods, please, reply once :)

It looks like BadBear has finally gotten most of the 'low hanging fruit' and going after less obvious spammers.

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most of your posts tend to not really add very much/anything to the conversation and seem to be rarely replied to. No one replying to you is a sign that your posts are insubstantial.

This is a discussion forum and if no one is saying anything back to you then you are just constantly talking to yourself.

You've answered your own question:

looks like they are cleaning the forum and banning spammers
more people are getting banned now days then we can see in past
make quality posts and stop spamming to avoid bans and always follow the forum rules

Not trying to be a dick but you posting that here is only gonna bring attention to your own account. Some would say you're doing the same thing as these others getting banned ;)

@BitcoinAddicts
When I see throuhg your posts, they are only 2liners and compared to josefs, I think your posts are even worse... Well, you also are wearing a paid signature, so be careful my friend :) Dont let admins look through your posts ;)

Funny, I hadn't got a report about OP yet, as far as I remember..

First ban that happened in a while. Badbear is in action. :D

I am also interested in knowing reasons for the ban so I know better what to look for since I can see worse posters there - esp. hiding in the Speculation and Altcoin Boards. Just don't want to make guesses, so curious..
I think, it was because of one or two posts that was obviously insubstantial (that is difficult to find) rather than the whole post history being bad?

Well, 1 or 2 posts dont really matter in my opinion. Why cant I have some freedom and post what I wanted to say? I cant dont want to just lengthen for example "hello" to "hello there, I am josef200, I am xx years old and using bitcoin since 2012." There were some posts that I could only reply with that without adding any unneccessary content, maybe you take these posts as spam and insubstntial.

There are members out there that posts around 50 posts a day in the speculation board that only consists of 1 sentence and wear a signature and still not get banned. So why was I?
I am expecting a reason and proof , not something like:
Some moderator banned you for 60 days because you posted insubtantial posts with a signature ad. So we will leave it as it is because we are the Moderators and you have nothing to say.
Not trying to insult you BadBear, but thats typically you... Dont take it serious, you are not a bad person. I know being an Admin/Moderator is a hard job, cleaning all that spam and other things. But just make decisions based on your current mood is just not right.

So, may any Moderator or the person that banned me stand out and speak? I dont want to be guilty for no reason. If there is an actual reason, please tell me :)

I dont think moderators ban you for short posts if they are not needed to be bigger like when you post a bid on the auction section, or your address in the games and rounds and stuff like that, im pretty sure they dont, if they do they shouldnt

Sometimes, life could be unfair like that :'(


There are no official rules for this forum, because people find loopholes in clearly formulated rules, and exploit them. The moderators can ban you if they feel it's the right thing to do, they don't owe you any proof.
If you don't like it, start your own forum >:(

BadBear, bring the hammer down on poster "Amph".

I acutally took the time to look somewhat into this. I went through your post history and think it was because of your post history as well. I'm not knocking you in no way at all because alot of your posts, I can see myself quoting some of the same "types" of comments. But the main reason I think your banned is not the quality, but the number. If you had excellent quality in your posts, then I do not think nothing would have been said. Lets review.


Today 11 posts before you were banned.
Monday-6
Sunday-20
Saturday-0
Friday-25
Thursday-17
Wednesday-21
Tuesday-9

Total *109*


I would imagine if you cut that number in half you may not have received the ban. But you got over 100 posts in a week. I would try to cut that down some if I was you.

The number of posts really does not matter, as long as the posts are not insubstantial. There are people who make those many posts in just a couple of days and are perfectly okay, because their post quality is fine.

Have you looked through his posts? They are the same "quality" as the post you just made or the post I made prior to it. Are you suppose to type a novel to something that really only needs a sentence or 2?

I might have send you this -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1039068.msg11222949#msg11222949


You are free to post what you want, but the moment you are selling your signature you will be judged differently when in doubt. There are elaborated versions of spam. It might not have been your intention to spam either, but your intention does not transfer over the net. E.g. a rephrasing of an existing post as I linked above, which makes it seem like a contribution while in fact you are just repeating what was already written by someone else in your own words. This often happens if people just read the title or OP and quickly write an answer instead of reading the entire thread IMHO. Lately its happens to me that I read 2 or more pages of a thread and prepare replies to posts only to see someone else has already answered something very similar. If the argument was already posted it does not contribute anything to the discussion if I just repeat it. I just have the example given above and I will not go through your posting history to dig up more.


The length is not the issue here. A political speech might take several hours without anything of value being transmitted. On the other hand a single word like "yes" can be helpful and in some cases and thus contributing.


If you think others deserve a ban, report them. Pointing fingers does not improve your position though.


From my experience: you wont get that.


60 day means its not your first ban, but your last warning. The next on is permanent.


Bans are typically handed out by BadBear. Keep in mind that "constructive", "spam" or "valueable reply" is subjective and from what I have seen BadBear does not take this lightly.

Still no reply from mods? ???

Why have I been rebanned for ban evasion?! And the ban period is "extended"??? I am NOT bittyfree or someone else! Pleaseee... Forum mods or admins, sort this out.
I have has trades with bittyfree (Escrows like Quickseller, may you confirm it???). I have known him since I startes using bitcoin, he started a faucet bittyfree.com (Equinoxx-the designer please confirm) - I helped him setting it up, thats why we have good contact.

Forum mods, please, reply once :)

You were banned for insubstantial posts and running a signature ad - don't waste the moderator's time when the reason is clear.

To be frank - your opinion doesn't matter.   :-\

I can confirm the following:
*I escrowed a deal between josef2000 and bittyfree roughly two weeks ago.
*The terms of the escrow was that both bittyfree and josef2000 would each pay a portion of the escrow fee
*josef2000 was selling an item
*due to either confusion or otherwise a misunderstanding josef2000 send a small amount to the escrow address in order to pay for the escrow fee instead of having the amount be withheld from him upon the release of escrow.
*the escrow address was 1AeBVpGTgAamqVvvoiQTxu7NehvZD37Jnx
*the address josef2000 requested funds to be sent to after escrow was released was 12cp7RTVgo1cpSyV99uGyc1oz74eYnQir3
*the address josef2000 sent funds "from" to pay his portion of the escrow fee was the same as above.
*I have not looked into any further blockchain connections (nor other connections) beyond the escrow service that I provided.

No help here ?! :(

Help ? As far as i can see, you were given a lot of answers regarding your situation, but they are not what you want them to be.
There is no reason why mod/admin would ban you if there wasnt obvious violation of forum rules. You should have taken the previous ban more seriously, there is no going back this time.
cheers

I agree with your opinion that no of posts doesn't matter if they are quality one..
But one thing I wanna ask what's the time to get ban lifted when it happens twice..
There is nothing written but a email given to appeal..
Please provide me a suitable answer..
Thanks in advance..

Yay you are banned!  
God I hope they ban your IP address so all of your fake accounts will be blocked!

You got busted for being Bittyfree just like I personally said you would when I PMed you.
Here is my proof you are bittyfree: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1052681.0;topicseen (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1052681.0;topicseen)

You accused me of scamming you because I REFUSED to do business with you and your lame alternative accounts.
And after you emailed me asking to mutually delete negative trust comments, and I said NO WAY, you posted with your other account Bittyfree.  You gave yourself POSITIVE trust and game me the same negative trust from your other account.

You have removed, and or changed your comments since then, and removed your trust you gave yourself, but not before I took some pictures.
http://craigslistapex.com/josef2000alt.png

More info and other people that hate your trust system manipulation on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1052681.0;topicseen (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1052681.0;topicseen)

Oh look.  Another alternate account for Josef2000!  Ban evading again!
DDOSbtc speaking in poor broken english just like Josef2000.
DDOSbtc talking about building a faucit just like Josef2000.
DDOSbtc threatening people (and threatening to DDOS this forum) just like the hostile Josef2000!
DDOSbtc coming to reply as Josef2000 on Josef2000's thread.

I have pictures of DDOSbtc posts if Josef2000 decides to delete his posts to hide that they are the same person.

Are u crazy.....
Another offensive words against me will not be fruitful for you...just an advice to you..

Is it crazy that I know you are another alternative account of Josef2000?
Why are you offended or angry about it?  You dont want to be banned?

Maybe you shouldn't threaten people, threaten the forum, or threaten other members with your script kiddie attacks.
DDOS is for newbs!  DDOS does NOT do anything anymore.  Ever heard of traffic filtering?  Poof!  You are no threat to anyone but yourself.

Everyone knows you are Josef2000 AGAIN.
Why are you so silly as to reply to Josef2000's thread as Josef, while you are logged in under the wrong name?

Silly boy.  =)

I r crazy that's what I can say..
I am not Josef that's truth as much as u r son of one father...

If you are not Josef, why are you here?
Why are you speaking for him?
Why are you ALSO creating the same bitcoin fausit?
Why are you also rude, and insulting just like him?
Why do you speak the same Bad english because you are Also german?
Why would you be involved in the same thread, and calling people crazy just like him?

Why are you mad Josef?

What do YOU have against Josef?
Why would you care about Josef at all, or care about being his alt?
Because you dont want to be banned AGAIN, and you want me to stop calling you out for using multiple accounts and ban evading!

You are exactly like Josef because you are Josef!
You do EVERYTHING that Josef does!

Joseph is mother*****  is that make sense to you that I am not Josef..
I ain't begging for him..I am just another victim who had been banned twice..now permabanned.

I run my own faucet rotator that is http://freebits.gq

I ain't hold any relation with Josef

So better you understand it..
And I'm Indian.

A new account with 14 point activity, created right after your Josef account is banned.
You say the same things as Josef.. a stupid mistake you made as Bitfree or whatever name that was.
And you do the same things Josef does.

And you are totally new, and you end up commenting on Josefs thread,,  Speaking as Josef and answering for Josef!

And you wonder why I refused to do escrow with you Josef?   Your escrow could be YOU!

The same bitcoin gambling dice signature trash.
You are newly created after his ban.
And you want us to think you are a random strange new person that ended up in this thread on accident, for no reason?

Just a random new guy that happens to:
1)  be German, like Josef
2)  write bad English just like Josef
3)  have a prime dice type signature just like Josef
4) make websites like Josef
5) spesifically bitcoin fausit websites like Josef
6) insult people who bust your lies like Josef
7)  threaten people with your ego, like Josef
8)  call me crazy just like ...JOSEF
9)  You are created after Josefs ban
10)  You are on Josefs thread.
11)  You are defending Josef
12)  You are responding and answering on behalf of Josef
13)  You are in a very random thread that is for Joesf.
14)   YOU ARE JOSEF!  BAN EVADING AGAIN

Why would you be responding for Josef, and not creating your own thread?

Why are you confessing to Ban evasion, Mr Josef?

You need to be banned for Ban evading.

Thank you for confessing.

Fuck off.... Don't quote me now..
U r insane..

Josef2000 look, I just quoted you!  You said you got nothing but an email about apeal.
You said that under the name DDOSbtc.
Who as I have pointed out, is does ALL the same activity as Josef2000.
You messed up.
You are ban evading by your own confession.

Just to clear it up, I am not DDos Bitcoin. Admins can check ips or whatever
Stop flaming around because your scam was busted: you didnt wanted to use any escrow

Stop insulting innocent people. Blaming that everybody here that posted was me wont help you further
Just like you blamed that Skynet is Quicksellers alt, which is not.

You are an insane member. You have created designs threads, but when I posted that you wont probably accept escrow on the forum you closed it immediately and opened a self-moderated one

You have blackmailed me that I should remove the neg trust from you or you will somehow ban me. You just said bittyfree was my alt because he gave you neg feedback, just like Quickseller and Skynet. But that didnt happen, I have no clue why I got banned still. I didnt post any spam or 2 word posts, just normal posts that everybody would do. Who knows?

Well, I didnt insult you in any way, you started everything. I said I wont trade with you without using a forum escrow and you just flamed me with posts stating to not waste you time and calling me names like bitch and faggot. I havent used any of these words and tried to talk with you like a normal person.

But, forum mods.... PLEASE, PLEASE look further why I ACTUALLY GOT BANNED, AND WHY THE BAN EVADING EXTENSION?!

Oh and
Regarding the email appeal, I dont have one in my ban message. Would you normally get one?