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Bikinidice is looking for a New Logo for the relaunch of Bikinidice.com

Price = BTC0.20 (Depending on the logo, this could increase) * Funds are escrowed. Check Posts below.

Rules:

- Post your entries below.
- No guidelines as to what color combination, just use your imagination.
- Entries must be Watermarked to avoid any "intellectual property theft".
- This ends on May 24, 2015. ( Due to recent events on the forum, this contest is extended till May 31)
- Winner will be contacted via BCT pm, and announced here.
- Upon winning, its the winners decision if he wants to do the trade via escrow or not. ( Winner pays for the escrow )
- The winner agrees and give all copyright to Bikinidice.
- Winner will provide a zip file that includes the logo, editable source like psd etc..
- Logo must be resizable and still look neat.
- No Limits on entries

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We are also looking for a web programmer/designer who can work for us. Pm for more details.

You are holding the 0.2 btc or escrowed?

With these kind of contests its easy for participants to just copy images, or you to say nothing's good and just download the desired image...

I think it is not but if the winner wants escrow then the funds will be escrowed before you give the copyright to them

Participants can watermark their images. Besides, if i "stole" someone's work, and we relaunched the site, they would complain. And there goes the credibility of the site.

I will put it on the rules to watermark the images.

The current price is not on escrow at the moment, but once the winner is chosen, funds can be escrowed upon winner's request.

Can I'm use online tool to create the logo ?

Anyway I thought that the site has been auctioned..

Designer here, I'm going to be launching my logo design service next week exclusive to BCT. OP I'm willing to make revisions if you like my design.
Good luck everyone!

https://i.imgur.com/aibNCsa.png

Yes, that's why we are relaunching the site with new features and new design.

Although maybe it was better to escrow the money but i think you are trustable and I will participate in this contest.

Please escrow the funds so that more people get interested in this.

Sure that's not a problem. Ill look for an escrow asap. For the mean time, feel free to post your entries. Have it watermarked as well.

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I've received a request from OP to help escrow the funds for this logo contest.

Prize funds will be held in the following address:  13kCywMYB9m4yLP3USmD3WzV8FDiK8WjGP

Funds will be released to the winner at the end of the contest.

Any questions feel free to PM me to ask.

Escrow service by master-P: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=932294

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I have made the logo, but you know bitcointalk has a problem in last 3 days
So is it still valid for post the logo?  ???

Funds are now sent to the Escrow Address 13kCywMYB9m4yLP3USmD3WzV8FDiK8WjGP
https://blockchain.info/tx/caf5052d0a5365cf95f8d7fcc6691a548f589276e28a90a648bc7e2c86ec2ae5

Due the recent events that happened in the forum, this contest is extended until the end of the month (May 31, Sunday)

So again feel free to post your entries and don't forget to watermark your images.

reserved!

Will put my entry very soon.

Here is my 2nd entry, material design.

https://i.imgur.com/utG0o59.png

Here is my entry feedback would be great
https://i.imgur.com/Ij0B8yn.png

I was excited to help with your logo here... then I saw it was spec work. First of all that is a pathetic amount to offer anyone for a decent logo even on a contract basis. Usually people running these spec work contests at least compensate for the potential of not getting paid by increasing the amount above what a normal contract cost would be. You however have done the exact opposite... and you get what you pay for, a bunch of half ass garbage.

I implore any designers reading this not to participate in any kind of spec work, because it reduces all designer's ability to earn a living. Would this type of setup be considered acceptable in any other industry? Stop treating designers like bitches and pay them a fair fee. Designers, stop being bitches and demand fair payment for your work.

http://www.nospec.com/

I am a graphic designer. I threw something together to give you a sample.
Contact me:
- PM on here
- Skype: swing.first.bt
- swingfirst@airmail.cc

I do appreciate the concern, and i do respect all designers amateur or professional and never did i treat them as bitches.. Anyone can participate on any kind of contest, its their free-will after all.. Tho i don't consider this as a spec work, since i don't take all or partial rights to any of the submitted images except the winner. That is also the reason i have ask people to put watermarks on their submissions. Also the stated amount is just the minimum payment (which is escrowed), "Price = BTC0.20 (Depending on the logo, this could increase)". A great and professional design will most likely get more than 0.20 btc.

Calling other people as half ass garbage means you think you design well than them, then thats good for you, but i personally think that its inappropriate to call them names. We all started as amateurs anyway.

I also think its unethical and inappropriate to tell other people not to participate in any kind of contest by just the reason that you did'nt like what the price/bounty is.

Tho i understand your concern, I will continue with this contest and encourage amateur/professional designers to post their submissions. And dont forget to watermark you images. 


Thanks

It doesn't matter if you are taking rights from them or not. You are not picking a designer to contract with and paying them, thus this is SPECULATIVE work, IE you might not get paid a dime for any work regardless of rights not being lost. I didn't call other people half ass garbage, I called the work half ass garbage. Also this doesn't mean they can't do better, it is just not worth their time to even try because you are paying a pittance and they aren't even guaranteed that meager sum.

You are treating them like bitches, because you are expecting people to work for you for free. Talk to a few designers and make a contract with one, don't just waste all of their time except one, then pay that person a pathetic sum. I think it is unethical and inappropriate for you to operate this way.

In what other industry would this even come close to being acceptable? Additionally, it hurts ALL designers by pretending like this method of operation is ok, because it drives down their ability to earn reasonable pay for their work because there is ALWAYS some one more desperate and willing to work for nearly nothing, especially when ones job is creating digital assets and the competition is global. Just because you are able to take advantage of that desperation does not make it ok. The really sad part is people like you only see the money they save and don't know enough about marketing or design to know you lose in this equation as well by getting a substandard product when you could pick ONE designer and pay the same amount and get a much higher quality result. No one wins with speculative work, even if you think you do.

Any size restrictions on the design ?

No restrictions except that it should be related to the domain bikinidice.com

I did not made this post to simply argue with you nor make some scene. I respect your opinion on the matter. But that doesn't stop the fact that i can still continue with the contest and reward people that really deserves it.

I don't really see the point of you coming to this thread and trying to argue with something you do not have control to.  But anyway, you have a nice day.  ;)

Feel free to post your entries.. :)

PM me if you are interested in a professional work :) If you want, you can take a look in my portfolio clicking the links in my signature.

Anyways, my fees for an isologotype work are not 0.2 BTC, but we can talk about what are you needing :)

The point is to educate the people you are taking advantage of here, as well as you, but unfortunately you think continuing this practice is in your own best interest. Have fun ruining your brand.

Here my new ones:

Another entry of mine. :)
https://i.imgur.com/XtJP7fA.png

If OP (or anyone else for that matter) wants to work with me, contact me!

My 2 Entries:

https://i.imgur.com/kZAaWz5.png

And

https://i.imgur.com/VMjxtrt.png

I tryed to match the colors of the website, hope it fits your likings.
I also got the .psd (Photoshop) files if you want them.
That rectangle that you see behind the logo is from the watermark, the actual logo does not have that shade of grey.
If you want to change the colors, I can also do that easily.

TIP -> 1E4w3EkiUW4cs5C9gRUKdTJja9KUadAh2X

Here my final designs i hope good luck to every designer

https://i.imgur.com/DIJLUum.png
https://i.imgur.com/Oy9pUmm.png

Come on, we want to see who won! :D

As a fellow designer, I wholeheartedly stand by TECSHARE.

These shady and immoral business practices need to stop. Stop taking advantage of designers trying to make money, and actually pay for fair wage.

In what world is it fair to make profits under someone's by paying a feeble table scrap wage. These contests are wrong, and it warms my heart to see that there are other designers who not only feel the same way, but are willing to take a stand for it.

In any other industry this would be illegal in most countries.


This is a public post, and as long as there is no flaming or off-topic discussion, there's really nothing you can do about it either. Someone who thinks that this sort of contest is okay wouldn't understand.

However, the hope is that this reaches other graphics designers, to show them that participating in this kind of crap is extremely toxic to ALL GRAPHICS/ART TRADE. By participating in this sort of contest, shows it's okay to host contests like this by people like you. If that were to continue, the overall value of our design services will be extremely devalued, and serious designers can no longer make a living.

Fellow designers, please do not join contests like this, we deserve healthy wages and respect! Don't be tricked by promises of "Exposure", because I'm sure you can't pay bills with "Exposure".

Thing is that if we don't join this contest, someone else will and they will receive the bounty.
In order for your idea to work, every single designer would have to agree not to join these contests.

I don't think that would happen, but I'd like to see it do.

I understand your reasoning behind this.

"If you don't get the table scraps someone will".
But you see, if people are aware of the situation, and walk away from this, then all that's left over are the designers who do not take this trade seriously. And when that happens, these sort of contests will start to dwindle. Because of the extreme poor quality of work that would be submitted.

It balances out eventually but it requires awareness of what joining these contests do to digital art work.

I don't expect you to walk away, but only want people to consider.. Is it really worth it? Fighting tooth and nail for $20 for a company to make tons of profit off of? To spend your time and effort to not be even guaranteed that small pittance of money.

Most of these contest hosts say that everyone wins; Exposure, Experience, Building portfolios

This is mostly adressing anyone who would justify participating in these contests, and not specifically to you SwingFirst

Exposure: You show that you don't respect your work enough to be paid a real wage or commission. That you're so desperate for money, that you're willing to work in conditions that any other self respecting artist would cringe at. These are good things to expose. They are very bad things, that real clients who respect digital art would turn away from in a heart beat.

Experience: The experience that is promised, is not healthy healthy is experience. The only experience that a designer could get from this, is the experience of being disrespected. Competing for table scraps. These extremely toxic experiences to have. The sort of experience that a designer should have, is the experience of drafting, client briefs, and healthy design principles. You will none of this, because you are literally trying to dump out as many submissions as you can. In what way is that healthy?

Building Portfolio: Building portfolio is extremely important, and any designer needs to do this if they want to find potential work. However, there are so many other ways to build up a portfolio. Other healthy ways. Rather than competing with others for a wage, why not offer a temporary reduced rate to a few clients, on your own terms? Or perhaps, build a portfolio up from taking courses, or donating to a non-profit organization? Any way that you can build a portfolio, without destroying the very trade that you're building up your portfolio to join in? It doesn't make sense.

And this is all under the guise of just one person will be getting compensated (poorly) out of everyone who joins.

If more and more designers become aware of what the consequences of joining these contests are, the more reluctant these designers will be for the next 0.1 BTC contest. If that happens, the less quality work will be submitted, and the less we'll see of these sort of contests.

In turn, we'll start seeing companies and startups approach designers with real commissions and real wages.

But one thing is for sure, it all starts in these threads, raising awareness and coming together as a community of designers, rather that viewing each other as enemies or rivals.

I don`t have quarrels with this kind of competition but one thing that really bothers me is the quality of the winning logo take for example the altbitex logo clearly their are better designs than that.

I want to see who won  ;D

Escrow, SwingFirst won this contest. Wait for my go signal before releasing the funds. Thank you. Once deal is done, A nice tip will be sent too  ;)




I know there has been some specualtions and discussions regarding designers and their works. I have high respects for this graphic designers. This kind of skills are not easily learned from school.
And for the time and effort that you exerted, Each users who submitted their piece will get 0.05 BTC each. (Just once per person)

Additional 0.01 for user Redones for the effort and time he put into this.

Please PM me with the BTC address you'd like to receive your bonus, and include the link to your submission.

Thank you for everyone and keep it cool  ;)

Congrats SwingFirst! Great design :)

PM'd you OP for the bonus, thanks!

congrats swingfirst, nice logo. thanks bikinidice for the contest, its my pleasure to cooperated with you. Hope your business will get success  ;D

congrats swingfirst, good luck for your project.

Yay I won! :)
The .zip has been sent to OP.
This is the address for payment: 1PECVY4hVGyBQzGZ2iv24uqFu8HcRg3nsM


Thank you mrfoofoo!

OP please send me a PM confirming the details once I can release the funds to the winner.

Pm sent.. Tip also sent. Thanks.

Bonuses are also sent to
Sarahiko
Bitcoinstriker
Falconer

https://blockchain.info/tx/77d0f45a19c85789d18c46533341298db11028d61ace168abf69bc6d3fe953be

Prize funds sent to winner: https://blockchain.info/tx/a8ec3bc619e7c340926d2126459a0947ad579ac8c410eec34ce771921c4befd2

Thanks :)

Left some trust for you and BikiniDice!  :)

Thanks!

congrats swingfirst  ;D
and Good luck for the project BIKINIDICE
PM sended.Thank you.

Bonus Sent. Thanks
https://blockchain.info/tx/42838799bc7dda20865a73104516555bd621d1b30a6a4fbc27711048e0b8a8fd