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Title: A few staff members been removed recently? Post by: JarvisTechnology on May 26, 2015, 11:55:21 PM I just took a look at the staff page in the members list because I was looking for a staff members name which disappeared a while back. Started with a M but cant seem to find him on there anymore. I swear he was a global moderator.
Anyway I also realised that there are now only 2 global moderaters where I think there was around 4-5 before and only 2 admins where there used to be? 3? Wondering if a few people have been demoted or if they were removed when the hack occured. Title: Re: A few staff members been removed recently? Post by: vm1990 on May 27, 2015, 12:03:30 AM think there selected as demand rises and falls. recently demand is pretty low
as to your mod searching only guy i think use to be a mod begining with M is monbux (think he use to be a mod but not sure) Title: Re: A few staff members been removed recently? Post by: Welsh on May 27, 2015, 12:05:33 AM Are you looking for malevolent (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=23092)? He used to be a member of staff and went in active for a few weeks recently.
Title: Re: A few staff members been removed recently? Post by: SaltySpitoon on May 27, 2015, 12:11:08 AM Staff accounts aren't left inactive for too long. Sometimes people just don't have the time to moderate the forums and their accounts are demoted, at least until they come back. I'd imagine especially since the hack, staff accounts have been demoted to reduce what damage the hackers could do if they got a staff account.
Title: Re: A few staff members been removed recently? Post by: 2112 on May 27, 2015, 12:13:56 AM Maged?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=6347 Title: Re: A few staff members been removed recently? Post by: JarvisTechnology on May 27, 2015, 12:18:25 AM Maged? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=6347 I swear when I first searched global moderators he wasn't there! Just did it again and he's there aswell as grue. Staff accounts aren't left inactive for too long. Sometimes people just don't have the time to moderate the forums and their accounts are demoted, at least until they come back. I'd imagine especially since the hack, staff accounts have been demoted to reduce what damage the hackers could do if they got a staff account. Thanks for the reply! I guess that might explain why they are now in the member list? they've just been re added.Title: Re: A few staff members been removed recently? Post by: mitzie on May 27, 2015, 04:39:09 AM Yes, some global moderators have been demoted, for security reasons until they come back after the hack.
Title: Re: A few staff members been removed recently? Post by: Athertle on May 27, 2015, 04:43:53 AM Yes, some global moderators have been demoted, for security reasons until they come back after the hack. If you don't mind me asking, what's the difference in the security of the accounts of the current staff members' accounts and the demoted ones? Or is it just the lesser number of staff members that could be hacked? Title: Re: A few staff members been removed recently? Post by: dothebeats on May 27, 2015, 04:48:43 AM Yes, some global moderators have been demoted, for security reasons until they come back after the hack. If you don't mind me asking, what's the difference in the security of the accounts of the current staff members' accounts and the demoted ones? Or is it just the lesser number of staff members that could be hacked? In attacks like this, the accounts of staff and other higher ranked members are usually the targeted ones. If ever a staff member account was compromised due to the attack, demoting could probably be a nice way to minimize the potential damage that the hacker could possibly do with the staff member account. Remember, a staff member's account has more privileges compared to a normal forum member's account. Title: Re: A few staff members been removed recently? Post by: Athertle on May 27, 2015, 04:53:55 AM Yes, some global moderators have been demoted, for security reasons until they come back after the hack. If you don't mind me asking, what's the difference in the security of the accounts of the current staff members' accounts and the demoted ones? Or is it just the lesser number of staff members that could be hacked? In attacks like this, the accounts of staff and other higher ranked members are usually the targeted ones. If ever a staff member account was compromised due to the attack, demoting could probably be a nice way to minimize the potential damage that the hacker could possibly do with the staff member account. Remember, a staff member's account has more privileges compared to a normal forum member's account. So are you saying that all/most of the staff members that were demoted were either hacked or were extremely susceptible to being hacked? Title: Re: A few staff members been removed recently? Post by: dothebeats on May 27, 2015, 05:02:37 AM Yes, some global moderators have been demoted, for security reasons until they come back after the hack. If you don't mind me asking, what's the difference in the security of the accounts of the current staff members' accounts and the demoted ones? Or is it just the lesser number of staff members that could be hacked? In attacks like this, the accounts of staff and other higher ranked members are usually the targeted ones. If ever a staff member account was compromised due to the attack, demoting could probably be a nice way to minimize the potential damage that the hacker could possibly do with the staff member account. Remember, a staff member's account has more privileges compared to a normal forum member's account. So are you saying that all/most of the staff members that were demoted were either hacked or were extremely susceptible to being hacked? I'd go for extremely susceptible, given that there are many legendary and VIP members that had been compromised after the attack. Staff accounts could probably be compromised too unless theymos hears a word from them and signing a message together with that word. Until then, it is best to just demote them for a little while until they prove that their account remains under their full control. Title: Re: A few staff members been removed recently? Post by: Athertle on May 27, 2015, 05:17:00 AM Yes, some global moderators have been demoted, for security reasons until they come back after the hack. If you don't mind me asking, what's the difference in the security of the accounts of the current staff members' accounts and the demoted ones? Or is it just the lesser number of staff members that could be hacked? In attacks like this, the accounts of staff and other higher ranked members are usually the targeted ones. If ever a staff member account was compromised due to the attack, demoting could probably be a nice way to minimize the potential damage that the hacker could possibly do with the staff member account. Remember, a staff member's account has more privileges compared to a normal forum member's account. So are you saying that all/most of the staff members that were demoted were either hacked or were extremely susceptible to being hacked? I'd go for extremely susceptible, given that there are many legendary and VIP members that had been compromised after the attack. Staff accounts could probably be compromised too unless theymos hears a word from them and signing a message together with that word. Until then, it is best to just demote them for a little while until they prove that their account remains under their full control. Got it. That makes more sense. Title: Re: A few staff members been removed recently? Post by: hilariousandco on May 27, 2015, 06:47:04 AM Is it just Globals that got removed? Tysat hasn't been active since the 17th of April which is longer than Malevolent. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17261
think there selected as demand rises and falls. recently demand is pretty low as to your mod searching only guy i think use to be a mod begining with M is monbux (think he use to be a mod but not sure) I dont think it's pretty low. In fact I think we need a couple more active Globals or mods for individual boards. Some reports on certain subs can take quite a while to get handled. And monbix wasn't a mod but he's an escrow. So are you saying that all/most of the staff members that were demoted were either hacked or were extremely susceptible to being hacked? Maybe theymos has info that certain accounts were trying to be brute-forced? Title: Re: A few staff members been removed recently? Post by: dothebeats on May 27, 2015, 07:10:47 AM Is it just Globals that got removed? Tysat hasn't been active since the 17th of April which is longer than Malevolent. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17261 think there selected as demand rises and falls. recently demand is pretty low as to your mod searching only guy i think use to be a mod begining with M is monbux (think he use to be a mod but not sure) I dont think it's pretty low. In fact I think we need a couple more active Globals or mods for individual boards. Some reports on certain subs can take quite a while to get handled. And monbix wasn't a mod but he's an escrow. So are you saying that all/most of the staff members that were demoted were either hacked or were extremely susceptible to being hacked? Maybe theymos has info that certain accounts were trying to be brute-forced? What does a Global Moderator actually do? I'm still quite confused on the differences between a Global Mod and a forum staff. Title: Re: A few staff members been removed recently? Post by: hilariousandco on May 27, 2015, 07:14:19 AM Global mods can moderate any and all sections and I think can also ban accounts. Staff who don't have any subs can only handle newbs, and mods like me can handle newbs and any posts/reports of a sub they're a moderator of (Bitcoin Discussion & Marketplace in my case).
Title: Re: A few staff members been removed recently? Post by: Lauda on May 27, 2015, 07:15:01 AM What does a Global Moderator actually do? I'm still quite confused on the differences between a Global Mod and a forum staff. There's no difference there. Admins, global moderators, moderators and patrollers are all part of the forum staff.Global moderators have the power to moderate the whole forum compared to moderators and patrollers who are either limited to certain sections or groups of memebers (e.g. newbies). Global mods can moderate any and all sections and I think can also ban accounts. Staff who don't have any subs can only handle newbs, and mods like me can handle newbs and any posts/reports of a sub they're a moderator of (Bitcoin Discussion & Marketplace in my case). You've beaten me to it. Weren't the admins the only ones who could ban people?Title: Re: A few staff members been removed recently? Post by: Quickseller on May 27, 2015, 07:16:06 AM Global mods can moderate any and all sections and I think can also ban accounts. Staff who don't have any subs can only handle newbs, and mods like me can handle newbs and any posts/reports of a sub they're a moderator of (Bitcoin Discussion & Marketplace in my case). You've beaten me to it. Weren't the admins the only ones who could ban people?Title: Re: A few staff members been removed recently? Post by: hilariousandco on May 27, 2015, 07:17:13 AM Global mods can moderate any and all sections and I think can also ban accounts. Staff who don't have any subs can only handle newbs, and mods like me can handle newbs and any posts/reports of a sub they're a moderator of (Bitcoin Discussion & Marketplace in my case). You've beaten me to it. Weren't the admins the only ones who could ban people?Grue handles some bans occasionally and so did BadBear before he got promoted to Admin (unless it's a power that is just handed out to the most trustworthy). I don't think they can issue temp bans though, that's for admins. Title: Re: A few staff members been removed recently? Post by: dothebeats on May 27, 2015, 07:21:08 AM Global mods can moderate any and all sections and I think can also ban accounts. Staff who don't have any subs can only handle newbs, and mods like me can handle newbs and any posts/reports of a sub they're a moderator of (Bitcoin Discussion & Marketplace in my case). Hence the term "Global Moderator". Now it makes sense. How about forum staffs? They can't handle reports that include Jr. Member up, is that right? I've been here in this forum for over a year now, but still I can't seem to understand things in regards with staffs and forum admins. What does a Global Moderator actually do? I'm still quite confused on the differences between a Global Mod and a forum staff. There's no difference there. Admins, global moderators, moderators and patrollers are all part of the forum staff.Global moderators have the power to moderate the whole forum compared to moderators and patrollers who are either limited to certain sections or groups of memebers (e.g. newbies). Global mods can moderate any and all sections and I think can also ban accounts. Staff who don't have any subs can only handle newbs, and mods like me can handle newbs and any posts/reports of a sub they're a moderator of (Bitcoin Discussion & Marketplace in my case). You've beaten me to it. Weren't the admins the only ones who could ban people?You've mentioned the term "patrollers". What does this certain group of forum staff do? And why can't I see someone here with a title of that name in their account? Title: Re: A few staff members been removed recently? Post by: hilariousandco on May 27, 2015, 07:28:53 AM Global mods can moderate any and all sections and I think can also ban accounts. Staff who don't have any subs can only handle newbs, and mods like me can handle newbs and any posts/reports of a sub they're a moderator of (Bitcoin Discussion & Marketplace in my case). Hence the term "Global Moderator". Now it makes sense. How about forum staffs? They can't handle reports that include Jr. Member up, is that right? I've been here in this forum for over a year now, but still I can't seem to understand things in regards with staffs and forum admins. 'Staff' is just the term used to indicate a moderator outside of the sub they moderate. I'm listed as staff in Meta but if you check in the Marketplace I'll be listed as Moderator. Global mods can moderate any and all sections and I think can also ban accounts. Staff who don't have any subs can only handle newbs, and mods like me can handle newbs and any posts/reports of a sub they're a moderator of (Bitcoin Discussion & Marketplace in my case). You've mentioned the term "patrollers". What does this certain group of forum staff do? And why can't I see someone here with a title of that name in their account? They just handle reports on newbs and will be listed as Staff. Mitchell and Eal are Patrollers but also moderate their own Local section. Title: Re: A few staff members been removed recently? Post by: dothebeats on May 27, 2015, 07:52:10 AM Global mods can moderate any and all sections and I think can also ban accounts. Staff who don't have any subs can only handle newbs, and mods like me can handle newbs and any posts/reports of a sub they're a moderator of (Bitcoin Discussion & Marketplace in my case). Hence the term "Global Moderator". Now it makes sense. How about forum staffs? They can't handle reports that include Jr. Member up, is that right? I've been here in this forum for over a year now, but still I can't seem to understand things in regards with staffs and forum admins. 'Staff' is just the term used to indicate a moderator outside of the sub they moderate. I'm listed as staff in Meta but if you check in the Marketplace I'll be listed as Moderator. Global mods can moderate any and all sections and I think can also ban accounts. Staff who don't have any subs can only handle newbs, and mods like me can handle newbs and any posts/reports of a sub they're a moderator of (Bitcoin Discussion & Marketplace in my case). You've mentioned the term "patrollers". What does this certain group of forum staff do? And why can't I see someone here with a title of that name in their account? They just handle reports on newbs and will be listed as Staff. Mitchell and Eal are Patrollers but also moderate their own Local section. Thanks for answering my questions. Now it is clear to me now. Going back on topic, who among the Global Mods are demoted? I've only seen one, SaltySpitoon, with the tile Global Moderator. Title: Re: A few staff members been removed recently? Post by: hilariousandco on May 27, 2015, 07:53:21 AM malevolent apparently https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=23092
grue is the other Global: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=5797 Edit: And Maged https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=6347 Title: Re: A few staff members been removed recently? Post by: dothebeats on May 27, 2015, 07:59:56 AM malevolent apparently https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=23092 grue is the other Global: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=5797 Edit: And Maged https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=6347 Well unless malevolent becomes active and proves that he's still in full control of his account, then he would be likely to retain his position as a Global Moderator. He hasn't been around for weeks now, but I'm pretty sure he received the email from theymos. Title: Re: A few staff members been removed recently? Post by: redsn0w on May 27, 2015, 05:57:32 PM malevolent apparently https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=23092 grue is the other Global: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=5797 Edit: And Maged https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=6347 Well unless malevolent becomes active and proves that he's still in full control of his account, then he would be likely to retain his position as a Global Moderator. He hasn't been around for weeks now, but I'm pretty sure he received the email from theymos. Maybe he has received an email from theymos, but he 'is not' in control of his forum account (who knows). After this another attack I am not surprised anymore (so everything is possible). PS: However, well done admin ;) and good luck with your research (C'mon people theymos will pay a 15 XAU bounty ~ 20k dollars / 75 BTC if you will find the real identity of the 'hacker'). Title: Re: A few staff members been removed recently? Post by: dogie on May 27, 2015, 07:30:17 PM malevolent apparently https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=23092 grue is the other Global: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=5797 Edit: And Maged https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=6347 Well unless malevolent becomes active and proves that he's still in full control of his account, then he would be likely to retain his position as a Global Moderator. He hasn't been around for weeks now, but I'm pretty sure he received the email from theymos. Maybe he has received an email from theymos, but he 'is not' in control of his forum account (who knows). After this another attack I am not surprised anymore (so everything is possible). PS: However, well done admin ;) and good luck with your research (C'mon people theymos will pay a 15 XAU bounty ~ 20k dollars / 75 BTC if you will find the real identity of the 'hacker'). Just hand the info over to the FBI, one of the IPs was a server being hosted by a niche NL company. Subpoena them and see what you get out of it. Title: Re: A few staff members been removed recently? Post by: monbux on May 28, 2015, 08:39:26 PM think there selected as demand rises and falls. recently demand is pretty low Just to clarify, I've never been a moderator on bitcointalk.org before. :)as to your mod searching only guy i think use to be a mod begining with M is monbux (think he use to be a mod but not sure) Title: Re: A few staff members been removed recently? Post by: hilariousandco on June 04, 2015, 09:09:54 AM It seems tysat and malevolent were removed as Bitcoin Discussion mods. Just me there now. Maybe time to add a couple new mods? I think the boards that don't have any dedicated staff could do with some (or some more Globals to cover them).
Title: Re: A few staff members been removed recently? Post by: dogie on June 04, 2015, 09:19:57 AM It seems tysat and malevolent were removed as Bitcoin Discussion mods. Just me there now. Maybe time to add a couple new mods? I think the boards that don't have any dedicated staff could do with some (or some more Globals to cover them). Surely its just temporary and they'll be readded once they're back? Title: Re: A few staff members been removed recently? Post by: hilariousandco on June 04, 2015, 09:36:55 AM I dunno. Possibly, but neither have been very active as mods or posters for quite some time.
Title: Re: A few staff members been removed recently? Post by: pissedoff on June 04, 2015, 07:10:22 PM It seems tysat and malevolent were removed as Bitcoin Discussion mods. Just me there now. Maybe time to add a couple new mods? I think the boards that don't have any dedicated staff could do with some (or some more Globals to cover them). Do globals cover Bitcoin discussion to? in that case you have 3/4 global moderators plus your self moderating that particluar area and i think thats enough i would agree with the areas which arent moderated by a dedicated member of staff Title: Re: A few staff members been removed recently? Post by: DiamondCardz on June 04, 2015, 07:13:20 PM It seems tysat and malevolent were removed as Bitcoin Discussion mods. Just me there now. Maybe time to add a couple new mods? I think the boards that don't have any dedicated staff could do with some (or some more Globals to cover them). Surely its just temporary and they'll be readded once they're back? Yeah, I just noticed tysat was no longer staff and checked Meta to see if there was a new discussion about it...I do feel bad for hilariousandco in all honesty :P I have no idea who is active in the Bitcoin Discussion section so I'm not going to make any input on who should become a mod there but he probably should get a little bit more help there. Maybe a Patroller could step up to help there, or an English-speaking local mod like Mitchell (is he a Patroller as well? Not sure). Title: Re: A few staff members been removed recently? Post by: pissedoff on June 04, 2015, 07:16:11 PM It seems tysat and malevolent were removed as Bitcoin Discussion mods. Just me there now. Maybe time to add a couple new mods? I think the boards that don't have any dedicated staff could do with some (or some more Globals to cover them). Surely its just temporary and they'll be readded once they're back? Yeah, I just noticed tysat was no longer staff and checked Meta to see if there was a new discussion about it...I do feel bad for hilariousandco in all honesty :P I have no idea who is active in the Bitcoin Discussion section so I'm not going to make any input on who should become a mod there but he probably should get a little bit more help there. Maybe a Patroller could step up to help there, or an English-speaking local mod like Mitchell (is he a Patroller as well? Not sure). I agree mitchell would be suited to Bitcoin discussion as long as he wants to do it of course Title: Re: A few staff members been removed recently? Post by: hilariousandco on June 04, 2015, 07:35:01 PM It seems tysat and malevolent were removed as Bitcoin Discussion mods. Just me there now. Maybe time to add a couple new mods? I think the boards that don't have any dedicated staff could do with some (or some more Globals to cover them). Do globals cover Bitcoin discussion to? in that case you have 3/4 global moderators plus your self moderating that particluar area and i think thats enough i would agree with the areas which arent moderated by a dedicated member of staff Globals cover everything. It seems tysat and malevolent were removed as Bitcoin Discussion mods. Just me there now. Maybe time to add a couple new mods? I think the boards that don't have any dedicated staff could do with some (or some more Globals to cover them). Surely its just temporary and they'll be readded once they're back? Yeah, I just noticed tysat was no longer staff and checked Meta to see if there was a new discussion about it...I do feel bad for hilariousandco in all honesty :P I have no idea who is active in the Bitcoin Discussion section so I'm not going to make any input on who should become a mod there but he probably should get a little bit more help there. Maybe a Patroller could step up to help there, or an English-speaking local mod like Mitchell (is he a Patroller as well? Not sure). You don't need to feel bad. There's a handful of globals that take care of reports too. I think one in an opposite timezone to Europe would be ideal. There always seems to be a lot of reports built up over night when I wake up. Title: Re: A few staff members been removed recently? Post by: DiamondCardz on June 04, 2015, 08:39:08 PM You don't need to feel bad. There's a handful of globals that take care of reports too. I think one in an opposite timezone to Europe would be ideal. There always seems to be a lot of reports built up over night when I wake up. Those are the same globals that are...y'know, globals, though, right? ;) They have to deal with reports from all the sections (well, probably excluding some more difficult ones from the Local boards) so I'd imagine that they are unable to focus on just a couple boards. Point is you would probably appreciate the help, right? :) Oh yeah, I forgot you were a fellow Englander. That build up of reports is probably from people from the US posting as you sleep, i.e. the pain of British moderators everywhere. (No offense Americans there's just a lot of you) Title: Re: A few staff members been removed recently? Post by: Mitchell on June 05, 2015, 08:23:18 AM Yeah, I just noticed tysat was no longer staff and checked Meta to see if there was a new discussion about it...I do feel bad for hilariousandco in all honesty :P I have no idea who is active in the Bitcoin Discussion section so I'm not going to make any input on who should become a mod there but he probably should get a little bit more help there. Maybe a Patroller could step up to help there, or an English-speaking local mod like Mitchell (is he a Patroller as well? Not sure). I'm a Local board moderator and a patroller right now and I feel honored that you think of me as an option. You don't need to feel bad. There's a handful of globals that take care of reports too. I think one in an opposite timezone to Europe would be ideal. There always seems to be a lot of reports built up over night when I wake up. Every morning when I logon there are at least 10 reports waiting for me. I even had 21 last week, it builds up a lot during the night. 99,99% of the time I get these reports because of my patroller role (the Dutch local board is quite dead as we often speak English just fine). I wouldn't mind being a Global Moderator or a Bitcoin Discussion moderator, I just hope that I do my current job good enough to deserve something like that. |