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Title: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: saddampbuh on May 31, 2015, 07:24:12 PM
i fucking <3 russia, need to make this russian girl i know from internet love me so i can marry and get citizenship there

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Several gay rights activists have been arrested by police after attempting to stage a gay pride rally in Moscow.

One of the activists attempted to unfurl a rainbow flag as they were arrested by police.

During the incident, around 30 counter-demonstrators threw eggs at those participating in the pride parade.

It is understood that the rally was not authorised in advanced, and that a Moscow court had banned them from demonstrating.

Gay rights activist Nikolai Alexeyev tweeted saying he was “beaten” at the event, and that the fingers on his left hand were “probably” broken.

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/05/30/russian-police-arrest-gay-rights-activists-at-moscow-pride/


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: cryptocoiner on May 31, 2015, 07:36:33 PM
i fucking <3 russia, need to make this russian girl i know from internet love me so i can marry and get citizenship there

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Several gay rights activists have been arrested by police after attempting to stage a gay pride rally in Moscow.

One of the activists attempted to unfurl a rainbow flag as they were arrested by police.

During the incident, around 30 counter-demonstrators threw eggs at those participating in the pride parade.

It is understood that the rally was not authorised in advanced, and that a Moscow court had banned them from demonstrating.

Gay rights activist Nikolai Alexeyev tweeted saying he was “beaten” at the event, and that the fingers on his left hand were “probably” broken.

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/05/30/russian-police-arrest-gay-rights-activists-at-moscow-pride/


"i fucking <3 russia, need to make this russian girl i know from internet love me so i can marry and get citizenship there"

LoL, you never been in Russia do you? It's not a nice place for living. And antigays laws is just one thing. What Putin is doing, he is building a dictatorship state again. It will not lead russia to nowhere good.


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: shogdite on May 31, 2015, 07:53:39 PM
While I 100% disagree with men batting for the other team only because we are here to procreate live then die, it is up to them what they do or believe in and for people still getting involved in other peoples business and harming another human are just as bad maybe more so. Live and let live and I really hope luck goes in your favor OP and your imaginary Russian bear gives you his hand . See how you get on over there with all your opinions on others should fit right in until you don't then good luck. 


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: anderson00673 on May 31, 2015, 07:58:22 PM
i fucking <3 russia, need to make this russian girl i know from internet love me so i can marry and get citizenship there

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Several gay rights activists have been arrested by police after attempting to stage a gay pride rally in Moscow.

One of the activists attempted to unfurl a rainbow flag as they were arrested by police.

During the incident, around 30 counter-demonstrators threw eggs at those participating in the pride parade.

It is understood that the rally was not authorised in advanced, and that a Moscow court had banned them from demonstrating.

Gay rights activist Nikolai Alexeyev tweeted saying he was “beaten” at the event, and that the fingers on his left hand were “probably” broken.

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/05/30/russian-police-arrest-gay-rights-activists-at-moscow-pride/

You know I might have arguments with people on this forum, heated debates and major disagreements.  But you sir have the honor of being the first ever person I have ignored.


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 01, 2015, 04:41:56 AM
Good for Russia. Sexuality is a private matter. People should not march on the street and shout that "I enjoy putting my dick on some other guy's anus". I never saw any hetero-sexual pride rallies. So why these homosexuals feel that they need to take a march on the street, to proclaim their sexuality? All these HIV-infected retards should be deported to England. 


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: protokol on June 01, 2015, 02:42:29 PM
Good for Russia. Sexuality is a private matter. People should not march on the street and shout that "I enjoy putting my dick on some other guy's anus". I never saw any hetero-sexual pride rallies. So why these homosexuals feel that they need to take a march on the street, to proclaim their sexuality? All these HIV-infected retards should be deported to England. 

Is this a poor attempt at humour? You say sexuality is a private matter, but the reason there are gay protests in Russia is because the state is making that sexuality a public matter, and discriminating against peoples' sexuality. They're not doing it to "proclaim their sexuality", they're doing it because they believe sexuality is a private matter that the state shouldn't get involved with.

There are no heterosexual rallies because the state/society has no problem with heterosexual relationships.


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 01, 2015, 03:45:40 PM
Is this a poor attempt at humour? You say sexuality is a private matter, but the reason there are gay protests in Russia is because the state is making that sexuality a public matter, and discriminating against peoples' sexuality. They're not doing it to "proclaim their sexuality", they're doing it because they believe sexuality is a private matter that the state shouldn't get involved with.

As far as I know, the Russian government is not installing spy cameras in anyone's bedroom. If you travel to Russia with your partner, you will be able to enjoy gay sex without any adverse reaction from the Russian police. However, Russia has made it illegal to spread gay propaganda to minors. I believe it does not transgress anyone's human rights. If some gay pedophile want to molest a boy, then rather than traveling to Russia, he can travel to England or some other country where it is more socially acceptable.

There are no heterosexual rallies because the state/society has no problem with heterosexual relationships.

In countries such as England, heterosexuals are discriminated against. So should they take out rallies proclaiming their sexuality?


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: SebastianJu on June 01, 2015, 07:11:28 PM
i fucking <3 russia, need to make this russian girl i know from internet love me so i can marry and get citizenship there

I hope she doesnt ask you to send her money all the time. You know... its a very common scam.


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: C10H15N on June 01, 2015, 07:15:24 PM
i fucking <3 russia, need to make this russian girl i know from internet love me so i can marry and get citizenship there
I hope she doesnt ask you to send her money all the time. You know... its a very common scam.

She and her girlfriend are using his money to redecorate their apartment.   :D


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: jaysabi on June 01, 2015, 08:43:52 PM
Is this a poor attempt at humour? You say sexuality is a private matter, but the reason there are gay protests in Russia is because the state is making that sexuality a public matter, and discriminating against peoples' sexuality. They're not doing it to "proclaim their sexuality", they're doing it because they believe sexuality is a private matter that the state shouldn't get involved with.

As far as I know, the Russian government is not installing spy cameras in anyone's bedroom. If you travel to Russia with your partner, you will be able to enjoy gay sex without any adverse reaction from the Russian police. However, Russia has made it illegal to spread gay propaganda to minors. I believe it does not transgress anyone's human rights. If some gay pedophile want to molest a boy, then rather than traveling to Russia, he can travel to England or some other country where it is more socially acceptable.

There are no heterosexual rallies because the state/society has no problem with heterosexual relationships.

In countries such as England, heterosexuals are discriminated against. So should they take out rallies proclaiming their sexuality?


First, the suppression of speech does transgress human rights. Second, the not-even-thinly-veiled attempt at slandering all homosexuals as gay pedophiles reveals you as yet another hate-filled homophobe.


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: protokol on June 02, 2015, 10:25:54 AM
Is this a poor attempt at humour? You say sexuality is a private matter, but the reason there are gay protests in Russia is because the state is making that sexuality a public matter, and discriminating against peoples' sexuality. They're not doing it to "proclaim their sexuality", they're doing it because they believe sexuality is a private matter that the state shouldn't get involved with.

As far as I know, the Russian government is not installing spy cameras in anyone's bedroom. If you travel to Russia with your partner, you will be able to enjoy gay sex without any adverse reaction from the Russian police. However, Russia has made it illegal to spread gay propaganda to minors. I believe it does not transgress anyone's human rights. If some gay pedophile want to molest a boy, then rather than traveling to Russia, he can travel to England or some other country where it is more socially acceptable.


No, you're being deliberately obtuse. They don't need to put "spy cameras" in peoples' bedrooms to make it a state issue, you know this. With their policy of "no gay propaganda" they are discriminating against peoples' right to be gay, and perpetuating the idea that such people are not welcome in their society. That's why there are protesting - the gay community feel that they are being mistreated, and their sexuality being made a public issue by an overly authoritarian state.

As for your view on "gay paedophiles travelling to England where it's more socially acceptable", well that's just total bullshit. You just need to take a look at any daily tabloid to see this is not the case. I think what you're implying with this comment is some sort of nonsensical slippery slope fallacy whereby gay people being accepted in society somehow gives paedophilia more acceptance. It's even funnier because we see historically, that paedophilia tends to thrive not in progressive gay communities, but in conservative communities such as the Catholic Church and public schools.

There are no heterosexual rallies because the state/society has no problem with heterosexual relationships.
In countries such as England, heterosexuals are discriminated against. So should they take out rallies proclaiming their sexuality?

Umm, what on Earth are you on about? In what way are heterosexuals discriminated against for their sexuality? I don't see any gay groups telling people they shouldn't have vaginal sex!

Did you mean that "traditional values of heterosexuals are being discriminated against"? Because if so, that's a totally different thing to what you implied.


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 02, 2015, 04:32:06 PM
With their policy of "no gay propaganda" they are discriminating against peoples' right to be gay

Please explain.

"No gay propaganda to minors" just mean that you should not share any gay videos, or homoerotic literature to individuals under the age of 18. How this can be claimed as discrimination against the gay people? In Russia, the gay and transsexual people face no discrimination in finding an apartment to rent, or in employment.


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: C10H15N on June 02, 2015, 06:29:19 PM

"No gay propaganda to minors" just mean that you should not share any gay videos, or homoerotic literature to individuals under the age of 18...

So you legally restrict young gay people from accessing information on being gay.  That's demented.   ::)


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: celestio on June 03, 2015, 12:27:45 PM
With their policy of "no gay propaganda" they are discriminating against peoples' right to be gay

Please explain.

"No gay propaganda to minors" just mean that you should not share any gay videos, or homoerotic literature to individuals under the age of 18. How this can be claimed as discrimination against the gay people? In Russia, the gay and transsexual people face no discrimination in finding an apartment to rent, or in employment.

You're so stupid, wow. It's still discrimination kiddo. So that no one under 18 can see it is extreme discrimination. That's why Russia's GDP is so low and its currency's value is falling like bricks, idiots, there extreme laws destroy their own economy.

Oh I see, you're one of those guys who spam the forum to increase your post count for your signature, pathetic.


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: saddampbuh on June 03, 2015, 03:10:26 PM
it is only natural russians should want to protect the yound from exposure to sodomites and sodomite ideas, homosexualism and paedophilia go hand in hand

faggots make up between 1-3 % of the population yet it is believed a third of sex crimes against children are committed against boys

i once put this anomaly to a liberal queer apologist and he told me it was nothing to do with homosexuality as the perps orientation isnt homosexual its paedophile. this is what liberals really believe. you couldnt make it up.


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: C10H15N on June 03, 2015, 04:09:26 PM
it is only natural russians should want to protect the yound from exposure to sodomites and sodomite ideas, homosexualism and paedophilia go hand in hand

faggots make up between 1-3 % of the population yet it is believed a third of sex crimes against children are committed against boys

i once put this anomaly to a liberal queer apologist and he told me it was nothing to do with homosexuality as the perps orientation isnt homosexual its paedophile. this is what liberals really believe. you couldnt make it up.

The vitriol you spew tells us more about your lack of character than anything factual about the people you hate.  The level of intelligence in this group is a little too high for you to gain much traction here. 


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: Nemo1024 on June 03, 2015, 04:22:08 PM
That gay parade in Moscow. I saw a report of it on Western TV. You could see a lot of people with cameras, and 2 or 3 gays being held by 5-6 policemen. That's it. The reporters couldn't get a decent wide-angle picture, probably because there were more reporters than gays there. I call it not so much a rally, as a provocation.

By the way, if a parade for protection of hamsters was held in Moscow without a prior clearance from Major's office, it would have been dispersed the same way.

And it's good for Russia to keep tabs on the pink (or "blue", as they are called in Russia) mafia. All their "pride" parades cause, is disgust among the Russian population and further worsen Russians' attitude towards this LGBT (Lesbian, Gay, Bestiality, Transvestite) minority. A friend of mine, when we discussed this news, said: "Why did the authorities bother with police, they should have called in psychiatrists instead."

Personally, when I see two men smooching, I want to retch...

Good for Russia. Sexuality is a private matter. People should not march on the street and shout that "I enjoy putting my dick on some other guy's anus". I never saw any hetero-sexual pride rallies. So why these homosexuals feel that they need to take a march on the street, to proclaim their sexuality? All these HIV-infected retards should be deported to England.  

Is this a poor attempt at humour? You say sexuality is a private matter, but the reason there are gay protests in Russia is because the state is making that sexuality a public matter, and discriminating against peoples' sexuality. They're not doing it to "proclaim their sexuality", they're doing it because they believe sexuality is a private matter that the state shouldn't get involved with.

There are no heterosexual rallies because the state/society has no problem with heterosexual relationships.

Oh, but there are heterosexual rallies: didn't you read the op, about the counter-protest that was held at the same time? And soon we will need mote heterosexual rallies as heterosexuality gets marginalised.

Also, the rights of homosexuals are not oppressed in Russia: you are free to be homosexual and copulate with whoever you want, you can kiss your penis-bearing "girlfriend" in the street - the only thing you risk is some disgusted sideways looks from the crowd around you. What you are not allowed to do, is to push this behaviour down the throats of everyone around you in mass media, especially to the minors. Kind like the prohibition to sell alcohol and tobacco to the under-age.

PS: In Russia, rainbow symbolises a peaceful, carefree childhood.
Take, for example, this Ukrainian child healthcare centre, called "Rainbow"
http://www.radugamed.com.ua/

It saddens and angers me to see this beautiful symbol being desecrated and dragged through the mud by the LGBT. Pretty much the same what Hitler did with the sun-symbol, the swastika, turning it from a beautiful into a despised symbol.



Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: saddampbuh on June 03, 2015, 04:50:15 PM
The vitriol you spew tells us more about your lack of character than anything factual about the people you hate.  The level of intelligence in this group is a little too high for you to gain much traction here. 
homosexualism and paedophilia hand in hand since 500 bc
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A Significant Percentage of Child Sexual Abuse Victims are Boys
According to the Journal of Child Psychiatry: "It was commonly believed fifteen years ago that girls were abused in excess of boys in a ratio of about 9 to 1, but contemporary studies now indicate that the ratio of girls to boys abused has narrowed remarkably. . . . The majority of community studies suggest a . . . ratio . . . in the order of 2 to 4 girls to 1 boy."[5] Another study found that "some authors now believe that boys may be sexually abused as commonly as girls (Groth, 1978; O'Brien, 1980)."[6]

A study of 457 male sex offenders against children in Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy found that "approximately one-third of these sexual offenders directed their sexual activity against males."[7]
http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=is02e3


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 03, 2015, 05:01:55 PM
With their policy of "no gay propaganda" they are discriminating against peoples' right to be gay

Please explain.

"No gay propaganda to minors" just mean that you should not share any gay videos, or homoerotic literature to individuals under the age of 18. How this can be claimed as discrimination against the gay people? In Russia, the gay and transsexual people face no discrimination in finding an apartment to rent, or in employment.

You're so stupid, wow. It's still discrimination kiddo. So that no one under 18 can see it is extreme discrimination.

Hmm... Either you are a low-IQ person, or your English comprehension skills are quite bad. If a 15-year old boy want to watch a gay video on his own, either at his home or at a cyber cafe, it is allowed. No one will harass him for that. The law only states that these videos should not be given to children by someone else.


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: celestio on June 03, 2015, 05:32:24 PM
With their policy of "no gay propaganda" they are discriminating against peoples' right to be gay

Please explain.

"No gay propaganda to minors" just mean that you should not share any gay videos, or homoerotic literature to individuals under the age of 18. How this can be claimed as discrimination against the gay people? In Russia, the gay and transsexual people face no discrimination in finding an apartment to rent, or in employment.

You're so stupid, wow. It's still discrimination kiddo. So that no one under 18 can see it is extreme discrimination.

Hmm... Either you are a low-IQ person, or your English comprehension skills are quite bad. If a 15-year old boy want to watch a gay video on his own, either at his home or at a cyber cafe, it is allowed. No one will harass him for that. The law only states that these videos should not be given to children by someone else.

But videos of heterosexual activity are allowed to be given to children? Sir, please shut the fick up, your hypocritical statements are quite an annoyance.


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: Nemo1024 on June 03, 2015, 06:13:56 PM
With their policy of "no gay propaganda" they are discriminating against peoples' right to be gay

Please explain.

"No gay propaganda to minors" just mean that you should not share any gay videos, or homoerotic literature to individuals under the age of 18. How this can be claimed as discrimination against the gay people? In Russia, the gay and transsexual people face no discrimination in finding an apartment to rent, or in employment.

You're so stupid, wow. It's still discrimination kiddo. So that no one under 18 can see it is extreme discrimination.

Hmm... Either you are a low-IQ person, or your English comprehension skills are quite bad. If a 15-year old boy want to watch a gay video on his own, either at his home or at a cyber cafe, it is allowed. No one will harass him for that. The law only states that these videos should not be given to children by someone else.

But videos of heterosexual activity are allowed to be given to children? Sir, please shut the fick up, your hypocritical statements are quite an annoyance.

No, ratings for minors still apply, however one chooses to copulate on film. So Bryant is wrong here. However, I hope you notice my previous post, which is more to the point:

Also, the rights of homosexuals are not oppressed in Russia: you are free to be homosexual and copulate with whoever you want, you can kiss your penis-bearing "girlfriend" in the street - the only thing you risk is some disgusted sideways looks from the crowd around you. What you are not allowed to do, is to push this behaviour down the throats of everyone around you in mass media, especially to the minors. Kind like the prohibition to sell alcohol and tobacco to the under-age.


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: Pentax on June 03, 2015, 08:04:29 PM
i fucking <3 russia, need to make this russian girl i know from internet love me so i can marry and get citizenship there



If that doesn't work out there are plenty of websites where you can find one, although she'll probably want to GTFO of there....


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: celestio on June 03, 2015, 10:16:10 PM
With their policy of "no gay propaganda" they are discriminating against peoples' right to be gay

Please explain.

"No gay propaganda to minors" just mean that you should not share any gay videos, or homoerotic literature to individuals under the age of 18. How this can be claimed as discrimination against the gay people? In Russia, the gay and transsexual people face no discrimination in finding an apartment to rent, or in employment.

You're so stupid, wow. It's still discrimination kiddo. So that no one under 18 can see it is extreme discrimination.

Hmm... Either you are a low-IQ person, or your English comprehension skills are quite bad. If a 15-year old boy want to watch a gay video on his own, either at his home or at a cyber cafe, it is allowed. No one will harass him for that. The law only states that these videos should not be given to children by someone else.

But videos of heterosexual activity are allowed to be given to children? Sir, please shut the fick up, your hypocritical statements are quite an annoyance.

No, ratings for minors still apply, however one chooses to copulate on film. So Bryant is wrong here. However, I hope you notice my previous post, which is more to the point:

Also, the rights of homosexuals are not oppressed in Russia: you are free to be homosexual and copulate with whoever you want, you can kiss your penis-bearing "girlfriend" in the street - the only thing you risk is some disgusted sideways looks from the crowd around you. What you are not allowed to do, is to push this behaviour down the throats of everyone around you in mass media, especially to the minors. Kind like the prohibition to sell alcohol and tobacco to the under-age.

Nonetheless, the laws are still foolish. It boggles my mind, heterosexual males(Of which I am). You see, we males date and marry women who do not and are not sexually attracted to us as we are to them. Biological women are not straight, every test done shows that they are by default, bisexual, so it's interesting to see males who are against anything but heterosexuality, when there wives, mothers, daughters, sisters, are all bisexual.

Comparing sexuality to alcohol and tobacco shows you have no concept of the subject at hand. Please cease responding until you go educate yourself. It would do your limited range of scope well to study the definition of prejudice and how that applies to homosexuals, and how such prejudice is aligned with discrimination, whether it be individual or institutional.


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/12/fashion/12bisex.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

http://www.livescience.com/37834-women-sexuality-and-alloparenting.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2051284/More-half-women-bi-curious-attracted-women.html



Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: protokol on June 03, 2015, 10:53:32 PM
That gay parade in Moscow. I saw a report of it on Western TV. You could see a lot of people with cameras, and 2 or 3 gays being held by 5-6 policemen. That's it. The reporters couldn't get a decent wide-angle picture, probably because there were more reporters than gays there. I call it not so much a rally, as a provocation.

By the way, if a parade for protection of hamsters was held in Moscow without a prior clearance from Major's office, it would have been dispersed the same way.

And it's good for Russia to keep tabs on the pink (or "blue", as they are called in Russia) mafia. All their "pride" parades cause, is disgust among the Russian population and further worsen Russians' attitude towards this LGBT (Lesbian, Gay, Bestiality, Transvestite) minority. A friend of mine, when we discussed this news, said: "Why did the authorities bother with police, they should have called in psychiatrists instead."

Personally, when I see two men smooching, I want to retch...

Good for Russia. Sexuality is a private matter. People should not march on the street and shout that "I enjoy putting my dick on some other guy's anus". I never saw any hetero-sexual pride rallies. So why these homosexuals feel that they need to take a march on the street, to proclaim their sexuality? All these HIV-infected retards should be deported to England.  

Is this a poor attempt at humour? You say sexuality is a private matter, but the reason there are gay protests in Russia is because the state is making that sexuality a public matter, and discriminating against peoples' sexuality. They're not doing it to "proclaim their sexuality", they're doing it because they believe sexuality is a private matter that the state shouldn't get involved with.

There are no heterosexual rallies because the state/society has no problem with heterosexual relationships.

Oh, but there are heterosexual rallies: didn't you read the op, about the counter-protest that was held at the same time? And soon we will need mote heterosexual rallies as heterosexuality gets marginalised.


Wow. I swear this forum is getting more retarded, I'm honestly finding it hard to tell if people are trolling or just really dumb.

A counter-protest at a gay rally is not a "heterosexual rally", it is a bunch of homophobes pissed off with the gay rally. Whether you agree with it or not, it is a homophobic protest, NOT a heterosexual rally.

Your comment about gay pride rallies worsening attitudes towards homosexuals is pretty revealing of your ignorance on the subject...

...Oh yeah and the fact you think the "B" in LGBT stands for "Beastiality". Moron.


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: celestio on June 03, 2015, 11:02:01 PM
That gay parade in Moscow. I saw a report of it on Western TV. You could see a lot of people with cameras, and 2 or 3 gays being held by 5-6 policemen. That's it. The reporters couldn't get a decent wide-angle picture, probably because there were more reporters than gays there. I call it not so much a rally, as a provocation.

By the way, if a parade for protection of hamsters was held in Moscow without a prior clearance from Major's office, it would have been dispersed the same way.

And it's good for Russia to keep tabs on the pink (or "blue", as they are called in Russia) mafia. All their "pride" parades cause, is disgust among the Russian population and further worsen Russians' attitude towards this LGBT (Lesbian, Gay, Bestiality, Transvestite) minority. A friend of mine, when we discussed this news, said: "Why did the authorities bother with police, they should have called in psychiatrists instead."

Personally, when I see two men smooching, I want to retch...

Good for Russia. Sexuality is a private matter. People should not march on the street and shout that "I enjoy putting my dick on some other guy's anus". I never saw any hetero-sexual pride rallies. So why these homosexuals feel that they need to take a march on the street, to proclaim their sexuality? All these HIV-infected retards should be deported to England.  

Is this a poor attempt at humour? You say sexuality is a private matter, but the reason there are gay protests in Russia is because the state is making that sexuality a public matter, and discriminating against peoples' sexuality. They're not doing it to "proclaim their sexuality", they're doing it because they believe sexuality is a private matter that the state shouldn't get involved with.

There are no heterosexual rallies because the state/society has no problem with heterosexual relationships.

Oh, but there are heterosexual rallies: didn't you read the op, about the counter-protest that was held at the same time? And soon we will need mote heterosexual rallies as heterosexuality gets marginalised.


Wow. I swear this forum is getting more retarded, I'm honestly finding it hard to tell if people are trolling or just really dumb.

A counter-protest at a gay rally is not a "heterosexual rally", it is a bunch of homophobes pissed off with the gay rally. Whether you agree with it or not, it is a homophobic protest, NOT a heterosexual rally.

Your comment about gay pride rallies worsening attitudes towards homosexuals is pretty revealing of your ignorance on the subject...

...Oh yeah and the fact you think the "B" in LGBT stands for "Beastiality". Moron.

Nemo1204 is really that dumb, infact him thinking that that the B stands for Beastiality in LGBT(It stands for Bisexuality) assures me that he is as retarded as they come. He also doesn't know what discrimination and prejudice is, and how the overwhelmingly majority of men are "straight", so when such men interrupt a gay pride parade, that's not a "heterosexual rally", its homophobia at it's worst.

This forum is depressing at times, the amount of extremely unintelligent individuals here is saddening.


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 04, 2015, 01:37:10 AM
Wow. I swear this forum is getting more retarded, I'm honestly finding it hard to tell if people are trolling or just really dumb.

Yeah.. anyone who doesn't agree to your homo propaganda is retarded. Another one to add to my ignore list.

If you want to take out a rally with all those HIV-infected faggots and pedos, then do that in your own nation. But don't ask everyone to follow your example. Russia is not an ideal place for these perversities.


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: C10H15N on June 04, 2015, 02:09:46 AM
If you want to take out a rally with all those HIV-infected faggots and pedos, then do that in your own nation. But don't ask everyone to follow your example. Russia is not an ideal place for these perversities.

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks" - Hamlet, William Shakespeare.

You do realize bashing gay people won't make your homosexual desires go away.  


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 04, 2015, 02:30:14 AM
You do realize bashing gay people won't make your homosexual desires go away.  

If you claim that anyone who opposes faggot propaganda is a closet homo, then 90% of the world population will be gay. I doubt whether that is the case. According to most surveys, gays comprise around 1% of the world population. Just control your own "homosexual desires", if you can. You don't need to bother about the others.


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: C10H15N on June 04, 2015, 02:35:22 AM
If you claim that anyone who opposes faggot propaganda is a closet homo, then 90% of the world population will be gay. I doubt whether that is the case. According to most surveys, gays comprise around 1% of the world population. Just control your own "homosexual desires", if you can. You don't need to bother about the others.

Intelligent heterosexual men who are comfortable with their sexuality just don't care.  You're obsessed.


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 04, 2015, 03:04:06 AM
Intelligent heterosexual men who are comfortable with their sexuality just don't care.  You're obsessed.

Intelligent heterosexual men want to protect their children from gay pedophiles. And yes.... I am concerned about the safety of my children. You can say that I am obsessed with it.

This forum is depressing at times, the amount of extremely unintelligent individuals here is saddening.

Blah blah blah... once again... any one who doesn't want to hear / watch gay propaganda is "extremely unintelligent". For my part, I don't care. If opposing gay propaganda makes me "extremely unintelligent", then so be it.  ;D


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: C10H15N on June 04, 2015, 03:20:21 AM
Intelligent heterosexual men want to protect their children from gay pedophiles. And yes.... I am concerned about the safety of my children. You can say that I am obsessed with it.

Statistically speaking, most child sexual abuse occurs in the home and is committed by a male family member or trusted friend and the victims are usually female.  So your obsession with gay sexual behavior and pedophiles is indeed interesting.

Were you abused?  Friend, relative, priest?


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 04, 2015, 03:26:34 AM
Statistically speaking, most child sexual abuse occurs in the home and is committed by a male family member or trusted friend and the victims are usually female.  So your obsession with gay sexual behavior and pedophiles is indeed interesting. 

Why don't you check the facts before posting?

1. Give me evidence to prove that most of the child sexual abuse is committed by a male family member.
2. Yes. Majority of the victims are female kids. But as someone has posted here earlier, one-third of the victims are male children.


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: C10H15N on June 04, 2015, 03:38:17 AM
Why don't you check the facts before posting?

1. Give me evidence to prove that most of the child sexual abuse is committed by a male family member.
2. Yes. Majority of the victims are female kids. But as someone has posted here earlier, one-third of the victims are male children.


Children are wary of strangers and they scream when frightened.  The vast majority of children know their abusers and trust them up until that trust is taken advantage of.

That's 33% you are concerned about. What about the 66% of abuse victims you are ignoring. 


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: shogdite on June 04, 2015, 04:08:12 AM
i fucking <3 russia, need to make this russian girl i know from internet love me so i can marry and get citizenship there



If that doesn't work out there are plenty of websites where you can find one, although she'll probably want to GTFO of there....

For surre there are, but really. Who wants to live in Russia?  ???


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: Stn on June 04, 2015, 05:16:48 AM
Comparing sexuality to alcohol and tobacco shows you have no concept of the subject at hand.
...and how such prejudice is aligned with discrimination, whether it be individual or institutional.

I found comparison sexuality to alcohol and tobacco in context of this topic was pretty relevant. FYI there is complete ban on tobacco and alcohol advertising of any kind in Russia. Though anyone free to buy and consume those without harassment.

Very similar situation with so called "anti-homo" law. What prohibited is only "advertising". "Consuming" is fully to your taste.


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: shogdite on June 04, 2015, 05:19:27 AM
Comparing sexuality to alcohol and tobacco shows you have no concept of the subject at hand.
...and how such prejudice is aligned with discrimination, whether it be individual or institutional.

I found comparison sexuality to alcohol and tobacco in context of this topic was pretty relevant. FYI there is complete ban on tobacco and alcohol advertising of any kind in Russia. Though anyone free to buy and consume those without harassment.

Very similar situation with so called "anti-homo" law. What is prohibited is only "advertising". "Consuming" is fully to you taste.

I'm cool with an anti homo law. Is there a way to pass a PRO lesbo law?


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: hangar18 on June 04, 2015, 06:31:36 AM
I don't think the US is that wonderful or anything, but I'm glad I'm in a place where banning something like showing a flag is really illegal.


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 04, 2015, 08:36:10 AM
Children are wary of strangers and they scream when frightened.  The vast majority of children know their abusers and trust them up until that trust is taken advantage of.

I need some solid proof for this. Give me some research paper on the subject, or a book from a well known author. Even data from the police department will be enough. Until you can provide them, I am not going to believe anything that you had posted.

That's 33% you are concerned about. What about the 66% of abuse victims you are ignoring. 

1% of the total population is gay.
33% of the abuse is same-sex abuse.

Now we have 1% of the population creating 33% of the sexual abuses, and the remaining 99% creating another 67%. Got my point?


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: Nemo1024 on June 04, 2015, 08:46:16 AM
I don't think the US is that wonderful or anything, but I'm glad I'm in a place where banning something like showing a flag is really illegal.

For the hundredth time - it's not illegal to show a flag. What's illegal is propaganda of homosexuality to minors.



Comparing sexuality to alcohol and tobacco shows you have no concept of the subject at hand.
...and how such prejudice is aligned with discrimination, whether it be individual or institutional.

I found comparison sexuality to alcohol and tobacco in context of this topic was pretty relevant. FYI there is complete ban on tobacco and alcohol advertising of any kind in Russia. Though anyone free to buy and consume those without harassment.

Very similar situation with so called "anti-homo" law. What prohibited is only "advertising". "Consuming" is fully to your taste.

Hear! Hear!

Try organising a pride parade through the streets of Moscow under "Chivas Regal" and "Malboro" banners, and the reaction from the authorities will be the same.



Wow. That was quite an Ad Hominem attack on me. :) Good. It means I touched a sore spot with some.
The reason I put "Bestiality" into LGBT was for sarcastic purpose - obviously several people don't understand sarcasm.

One attacker accused me of ignorance about the subject matter. Also a typical Ad Hominem trick. Sadly for them i know more about the workings of hormones and how they steer sexual behaviour more than they imagine.

I am also, apparently, prejudiced. Only because I don't want to have homosexual displays pushed down my throat. the attackers chose not to notice me saying that whatever homosexuals do in the privacy of their bedrooms is of no ones business, and that Russian state does not care about that aspect of their lives.

And it's worth pointing out here that Russia, while being accused of intolerance, actually has over 600 years of recorded experience in being a tolerant multi-cultural, multi-ethnic, multi-confessional state, at a time when Europe was nothing more than a collection of small city-states. And from that experience the key to successful tolerant state is to balance and not to allow one group to forcefully impose their views onto the rest.



Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: Balthazar on June 04, 2015, 10:39:24 AM
And it's worth pointing out here that Russia, while being accused of intolerance, actually has over 600 years of recorded experience in being a tolerant multi-cultural, multi-ethnic, multi-confessional state, at a time when Europe was nothing more than a collection of small city-states.

Just to be precise, Russia was democratic when the rest of medieval Europe had no idea about meaning of this word.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novgorod_Republic

Try organising a pride parade through the streets of Moscow under "Chivas Regal" and "Malboro" banners, and the reaction from the authorities will be the same.
Or even more funny, try to organize any action without banners, slogans and other attributes. You can be sure that reaction will be the same, some guys tried to perform unauthorized rally with "invisible banners" as a joke and then spent 15 days in jail. :D

It's not about tolerance, it's only about obeying the law and maintaining the order. If you want to perform some public action then you have to get approval from municipal authorities first. Otherwise your actions would cause problems for other people. If you're causing problems for the rest of people then you deserve to be imprisoned for some time. That's all.


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: C10H15N on June 04, 2015, 01:10:00 PM

1% of the total population is gay.
33% of the abuse is same-sex abuse.

Now we have 1% of the population creating 33% of the sexual abuses, and the remaining 99% creating another 67%. Got my point?

I get your point.  You are using made up numbers to support your bias.
The number of people that admit to being gay is closer to 10% and that's ignoring those who are closeted/bisexual.
You're also ignoring the fact that out gay people are not the child abusers.  Child abusers (gay/bi/straight) hide this from everyone.

Besides.  If you're worried your child might be bit by a dog, doesn't it make more sense to teach your child about dogs that to try and eliminate every dog in the world?
Another point to consider - gay people don't make gay people - Straight people do.  For every child you have there is a one in ten chance he or she will be gay. 
 


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 04, 2015, 03:48:10 PM
I get your point.  You are using made up numbers to support your bias.
The number of people that admit to being gay is closer to 10% and that's ignoring those who are closeted/bisexual.

As I had posted earlier, either give me the source / reference for your claims, or I am going to ignore them completely. Even in the Los Angeles, considered to be the homo capital of the world, gays consist only around 4% of the total population. And from where you got the 10% figure? Most of the studies and surveys put the figure at 1%.


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: Pentax on June 04, 2015, 04:02:09 PM

1% of the total population is gay.
33% of the abuse is same-sex abuse.

Now we have 1% of the population creating 33% of the sexual abuses, and the remaining 99% creating another 67%. Got my point?

I get your point.  You are using made up numbers to support your bias.
The number of people that admit to being gay is closer to 10% and that's ignoring those who are closeted/bisexual.
You're also ignoring the fact that out gay people are not the child abusers.  Child abusers (gay/bi/straight) hide this from everyone.

Besides.  If you're worried your child might be bit by a dog, doesn't it make more sense to teach your child about dogs that to try and eliminate every dog in the world?
Another point to consider - gay people don't make gay people - Straight people do.  For every child you have there is a one in ten chance he or she will be gay.  
 

I don't care who decides to fuck who.  I have relatives and friends that are gay and couldn't give a damn.  It's not my cup of tea and not something I will ever be able to really understand, but I don't understand either the discrimination against these groups.  

That said, that 10% number is not accurate.  It was a number put out by the LGBT community to bolster their numbers to influence public opinion and has been largely debunked.

The numbers are ~3.4% of the American population, according to the demographics.  what it is in other countries I don't know, but I imagine it's relatively similar.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_demographics_of_the_United_States


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: celestio on June 04, 2015, 04:41:53 PM
I get your point.  You are using made up numbers to support your bias.
The number of people that admit to being gay is closer to 10% and that's ignoring those who are closeted/bisexual.

As I had posted earlier, either give me the source / reference for your claims, or I am going to ignore them completely. Even in the Los Angeles, considered to be the homo capital of the world, gays consist only around 4% of the total population. And from where you got the 10% figure? Most of the studies and surveys put the figure at 1%.

You should really stop lying. Your pathetic attempts at twisting the facts to suit your flawed argument makes you look like a deranged child.

1 in 3 women in America have and will be sexually assaulted by straight men, obliterating any false % you make up to incriminate same-sex relationships. In fact, the statistics show that same-sex relationships actually have far less violence than straight relationships, and I'm a straight man. Admit it and stop dancing around the issue kiddo.

That's over 20million women in America alone, don't get me started on countries like India where sexual abuse and rape is even more common.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/20/health/global-violence-women/
http://www.woar.org/resources/sexual-assault-statistics.php
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/jun/20/one-in-three-women-suffers-violence

EDIT: Oh yea, no wonder your posts are so stupid and filled with the logic of a 3 year old, you're just spamming posts for your signature count.


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 04, 2015, 04:55:49 PM
You should really stop lying. Your pathetic attempts at twisting the facts to suit your flawed argument makes you look like a deranged child.

I asked you to give some proof to support your arguments. You have none, and that is why you have decided to divert the topic. If you want to continue the conversation, then come back with some proof. Until then, I am not going to respond to you.

The numbers are ~3.4% of the American population, according to the demographics.  what it is in other countries I don't know, but I imagine it's relatively similar.

Homos might be 3.4% of the population in the United States, but in other countries, that figure might be lower. This is because gays from all over the world (especially those from countries such as Iran and the former Soviet Union) have immigrated to the US, as homosexuality is widely accepted there. Therefore the percentage is higher in the US, and lower in most of the other nations.


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: celestio on June 04, 2015, 05:05:18 PM
You should really stop lying. Your pathetic attempts at twisting the facts to suit your flawed argument makes you look like a deranged child.

I asked you to give some proof to support your arguments. You have none, and that is why you have decided to divert the topic. If you want to continue the conversation, then come back with some proof. Until then, I am not going to respond to you.

The numbers are ~3.4% of the American population, according to the demographics.  what it is in other countries I don't know, but I imagine it's relatively similar.

Homos might be 3.4% of the population in the United States, but in other countries, that figure might be lower. This is because gays from all over the world (especially those from countries such as Iran and the former Soviet Union) have immigrated to the US, as homosexuality is widely accepted there. Therefore the percentage is higher in the US, and lower in most of the other nations.

Read the links that I included. 1 in 3 women are sexually assaulted and will be in the United States alone. I'm not sure if you're this stupid or just trying to troll.

Also, you should note that every single biological woman on this planet is bisexual, therefore 50% of all people on earth are not straight. This includes your wife, mother, daughter, sister, friend, etc. The reason why they present themselves as "straight" is because of their romantic attractions. You see, sexuality is defined primarily one's sexual attractions, yet people all over confuse that with their romantic attractions to a individual or sex. What all these studies show, is that women are sexually attracted to other women's bodies(They're not at all to men's though), but they are romantically attracted to men and so that's why women may identify themselves as "straight". You should really study sexology, sexual abuse against women, and more before making up bullshit statistics.

1 in 3 women:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/20/health/global-violence-women/
http://www.woar.org/resources/sexual-assault-statistics.php
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/jun/20/one-in-three-women-suffers-violence

All women are bisexual according to every test done on biological female sexuality:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/12/fashion/12bisex.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/25/magazine/25desire-t.html?pagewanted=all
http://www.yourtango.com/2011104439/study-average-woman-bisexual
http://www.livescience.com/37834-women-sexuality-and-alloparenting.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2051284/More-half-women-bi-curious-attracted-women.html


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: Pentax on June 04, 2015, 05:10:00 PM


Homos might be 3.4% of the population in the United States, but in other countries, that figure might be lower. This is because gays from all over the world (especially those from countries such as Iran and the former Soviet Union) have immigrated to the US, as homosexuality is widely accepted there. Therefore the percentage is higher in the US, and lower in most of the other nations.

I suppose that's possible, although it seems just as possible that, if some have moved to areas more tolerant, which is probable, that they'd end up in other areas aside from the US as well, such as european countries.

Things are really beginning to change on this in the US in any major way in the last few/10ish years.

all of that aside, without the data there's no data.  I don't know that there is such a global statistic.  I do know it's less than 10% and likely well north of 1.

to, me the exact percentage is irrelevant anyhow.  YMMV.


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 04, 2015, 05:11:21 PM
Read the links that I included. 1 in 3 women are sexually assaulted and will be in the United States alone. I'm not sure if you're this stupid or just trying to troll.

Rapes occur much more frequently in the United States, when compared to the European nations. That said, males are raped more often than females in the United States (most of it is not reported, as they occur in places such as prisons). BTW... I was talking about child sexual assault in the first place. I was not talking about rape of adults.

Also, you should note that every single biological woman on this planet is bisexual, therefore 50% of all people on earth are not straight.

This is the most laughable argument I have ever read in Bitcointalk. Give me some source from any of the medical journals to support your claim. A few links from pro-LGBT groups doesn't count.


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: celestio on June 04, 2015, 05:14:03 PM
Read the links that I included. 1 in 3 women are sexually assaulted and will be in the United States alone. I'm not sure if you're this stupid or just trying to troll.

Rapes occur much more frequently in the United States, when compared to the European nations. That said, males are raped more often than females in the United States (most of it is not reported, as they occur in places such as prisons). BTW... I was talking about child sexual assault in the first place. I was not talking about rape of adults.

Also, you should note that every single biological woman on this planet is bisexual, therefore 50% of all people on earth are not straight.

This is the most laughable argument I have ever read in Bitcointalk. Give me some source from any of the medical journals to support your claim. A few links from pro-LGBT groups doesn't count.

Those links and studies are from the top sexologists on biological women's sexuality. They are not from "LGBT pro groups". Go read them kiddo.

So far, every single study  done on female sexuality shows that they're by default, bisexual.

Also, stop making bullshit up please. 1 in 6 males are sexually assaulted in the U.S, 1 in 3 females are. 2x as many females as males are assaulted. Your opinion on the matter is worthless, I don't care what you "think" the % are, I do not care for your opinions, stick to the objective facts.

Give me proof behind your statements or shut the fuck up. I'm not here to read people's opinions.


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: C10H15N on June 04, 2015, 05:18:04 PM
As I had posted earlier, either give me the source / reference for your claims, or I am going to ignore them completely. Even in the Los Angeles, considered to be the homo capital of the world, gays consist only around 4% of the total population. And from where you got the 10% figure? Most of the studies and surveys put the figure at 1%.

According to a study from the National Bureau of Economic Research, about 20 percent of the population is attracted to their own gender. That’s nearly double the usual estimates of about 10 percent. The authors explain that their methodology might have something to do with it:

Read more: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/what-percent-of-the-population-is-gay-more-than-you-think-5012467/#Ofcju2AOR0O8XMwH.99

http://www.nber.org/papers/w19508

Quote
Measuring sexual orientation, behavior, and related opinions is difficult because responses are biased towards socially acceptable answers. We test whether measurements are biased even when responses are private and anonymous and use our results to identify sexuality-related norms and how they vary. We run an experiment on 2,516 U.S. participants. Participants were randomly assigned to either a "best practices method" that was computer-based and provides privacy and anonymity, or to a "veiled elicitation method" that further conceals individual responses. Answers in the veiled method preclude inference about any particular individual, but can be used to accurately estimate statistics about the population. Comparing the two methods shows sexuality-related questions receive biased responses even under current best practices, and, for many questions, the bias is substantial. The veiled method increased self-reports of non-heterosexual identity by 65% (p<0.05) and same-sex sexual experiences by 59% (p<0.01). The veiled method also increased the rates of anti-gay sentiment. Respondents were 67% more likely to express disapproval of an openly gay manager at work (p<0.01) and 71% more likely to say it is okay to discriminate against lesbian, gay, or bisexual individuals (p<0.01). The results show non-heterosexuality and anti-gay sentiment are substantially underestimated in existing surveys, and the privacy afforded by current best practices is not always sufficient to eliminate bias. Finally, our results identify two social norms: it is perceived as socially undesirable both to be open about being gay, and to be unaccepting of gay individuals.


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: SebastianJu on June 04, 2015, 05:26:56 PM
Im not so sure about the studies about bi woman. It might very well be that they got aroused, but i think its more because of empathy, than the thought of having sex with that woman. I tend to believe that woman mostly have more empathy and thats why they can feel with a female actor.

But its completely different than saying that woman would go having sex with another woman. Every straight man probably knows that woman are more than their feelings. They can say no if they have a partner they love or for other mental reasons. Though it might be an emotional reason too, not hurting the partner.

Anyway... the claim that 50% of all woman are bi is a step further as the study can show. In my opinion.

Saying that. Its completely nonsense to hate all those other sexualities. Biggest haters are those that fear being gay themselve.


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 04, 2015, 05:32:19 PM
So far, every single study  done on female sexuality shows that they're by default, bisexual.

Take your load of BS to somewhere else. It is useless to argue with you. As per you all the women are homo. Just argue that all the men are homo as well. 100% of the population is LGBT. Happy now?

According to a study from the National Bureau of Economic Research, about 20 percent of the population is attracted to their own gender. That’s nearly double the usual estimates of about 10 percent.

The most reliable study is the one which as conducted by the Williams Institute. According to it, 3.4% of the American adults are LGBT. Although I think that the figure are higher than expected, for now I'll accept them. 20% is way too high.


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: celestio on June 04, 2015, 05:32:35 PM
Im not so sure about the studies about bi woman. It might very well be that they got aroused, but i think its more because of empathy, than the thought of having sex with that woman. I tend to believe that woman mostly have more empathy and thats why they can feel with a female actor.

But its completely different than saying that woman would go having sex with another woman. Every straight man probably knows that woman are more than their feelings. They can say no if they have a partner they love or for other mental reasons. Though it might be an emotional reason too, not hurting the partner.

Anyway... the claim that 50% of all woman are bi is a step further as the study can show. In my opinion.

Saying that. Its completely nonsense to hate all those other sexualities. Biggest haters are those that fear being gay themselve.

No, your statements aren't valid because if they were true, the same thing would have happened to straight men. It has nothing to do with empathy nor any environmental factors. It's all biological, because they were not sexually attracted to the male form(If empathy played a role like you suggested, then they would be sexually attracted to the male form, as per they are to the female form, but they're not).

Well, it's completely reasonable to make the assumption at this point, that all biological women are bisexual, given that every single study done on the subject points to that fact. Getting physically aroused doesn't mean you want to have sex with someone(Tons of other factors come into play), but it means you're sexually attracted to them.

The defining point of these studies show that they're not just bisexual, but not sexually attracted to the male form. So every straight male who is "homophobic" should think twice as women are not sexually attracted to our bodies.

At least it explains why there are hardly any women going to "male strip clubs", or fawning over guy's bodies as we do to women's bodies.


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: celestio on June 04, 2015, 05:33:12 PM
So far, every single study  done on female sexuality shows that they're by default, bisexual.

Take your load of BS to somewhere else. It is useless to argue with you. As per you all the women are homo. Just argue that all the men are homo as well. 100% of the population is LGBT. Happy now?

According to a study from the National Bureau of Economic Research, about 20 percent of the population is attracted to their own gender. That’s nearly double the usual estimates of about 10 percent.

The most reliable study is the one which as conducted by the Williams Institute. According to it, 3.4% of the American adults are LGBT. Although I think that the figure are higher than expected, for now I'll accept them. 20% is way too high.

You're a complete idiot. You've only given me your faulty opinions and absolutely no factual data. Get lost, I'm done speaking with you, a waste of time.

Go study the actual subjects being discussed before commenting and looking like a fool.


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: Balthazar on June 04, 2015, 05:36:15 PM
So far, every single study  done on female sexuality shows that they're by default, bisexual.

Take your load of BS to somewhere else. It is useless to argue with you. As per you all the women are homo. Just argue that all the men are homo as well. 100% of the population is LGBT. Happy now?

According to a study from the National Bureau of Economic Research, about 20 percent of the population is attracted to their own gender. That’s nearly double the usual estimates of about 10 percent.

The most reliable study is the one which as conducted by the Williams Institute. According to it, 3.4% of the American adults are LGBT. Although I think that the figure are higher than expected, for now I'll accept them. 20% is way too high.

You're a complete idiot. You've only given me your faulty opinions and absolutely no factual data. Get lost, I'm done speaking with you, a waste of time.

Go study the actual subjects being discussed before commenting and looking like a fool.

http://lurkmore.so/images/e/e2/Butthurt-form.jpg


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 04, 2015, 05:45:02 PM
^^^^

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/purpldrgn1956b/LMAO/ROFLMBO.gif

And now back to the topic. Why so much outcry about the treatment of gays in Russia? In Russia, the gays are allowed to do whatever they want, as long as they don't hurt anyone. But what about nations such as Qatar, Saudi Arabia.etc? The same people who criticize Russia on gay discrimination keep their silence, whenever anyone mentions the harassment faced by gays in Qatar or KSA. Why these double standards?



Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: celestio on June 04, 2015, 05:47:40 PM
So of course bryant.coleman results to childplay and foolish GIF's after being outed for using opinions instead of factual data and a huge lack of knowledge on the subject at hand. What more could I expect from a spamming sig count poster? DannyHamilton and others are right to block these types of guys.



Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: jaysabi on June 06, 2015, 06:51:21 PM
I get your point.  You are using made up numbers to support your bias.
The number of people that admit to being gay is closer to 10% and that's ignoring those who are closeted/bisexual.

As I had posted earlier, either give me the source / reference for your claims, or I am going to ignore them completely. Even in the Los Angeles, considered to be the homo capital of the world, gays consist only around 4% of the total population. And from where you got the 10% figure? Most of the studies and surveys put the figure at 1%.

Really? You're going with LA as the 'homo capital of the world?' There are waaaaay gayer cities, both in terms of number of gays and percentage of population that is gay.

Post your sources when you cite stats, because they're almost always wrong. You undercut the percentage of gays in LA by 40% (1.6 percentage points, 5.6% vs. 4%), and there's definitely no basis to support LA as being the 'homo capital of the world' considering this list:

https://i.imgur.com/atNRaPt.png



Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: ThEmporium on June 06, 2015, 07:58:34 PM
i fucking <3 russia, need to make this russian girl i know from internet love me so i can marry and get citizenship there

I hope she doesnt ask you to send her money all the time. You know... its a very common scam.

Why on this earth he wants to go and settled down in Russia, Well who is that fu.... girl as he mentioned, I guess a normal girl never seek for any money to start a life there in her country except a decent job to run the life and small amount of money for paying rent for flats and other daily expenses. Every girl understand what is essential to run the decent and respectable life in this world.


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 07, 2015, 05:23:49 AM
Really? You're going with LA as the 'homo capital of the world?' There are waaaaay gayer cities, both in terms of number of gays and percentage of population that is gay.

Post your sources when you cite stats, because they're almost always wrong. You undercut the percentage of gays in LA by 40% (1.6 percentage points, 5.6% vs. 4%), and there's definitely no basis to support LA as being the 'homo capital of the world' considering this list

When I said LA was the homo capital of the world, I was not just referring about the total population. Most of the organizations, which cater to the homos are based in LA. But still, in percentage-wise, LA ranks among the top 10.

And regarding the homo population in LA, it seems that I was slightly under-estimating. It is 4.6%, instead of 4%.

http://content.gallup.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/dcpkt-az6u-93werf1pt-g.png


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: protokol on June 07, 2015, 06:32:32 PM
^^^^

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/purpldrgn1956b/LMAO/ROFLMBO.gif

And now back to the topic. Why so much outcry about the treatment of gays in Russia? In Russia, the gays are allowed to do whatever they want, as long as they don't hurt anyone. But what about nations such as Qatar, Saudi Arabia.etc? The same people who criticize Russia on gay discrimination keep their silence, whenever anyone mentions the harassment faced by gays in Qatar or KSA. Why these double standards?



That's a logical fallacy my friend, just because something is worse somewhere else doesn't mean that the situation under discussion is acceptable.

These double standards do not exist, people who criticize Russia do not "keep their silence" when they hear about similar harassment in other countries. Russia is quite powerful, is historically important to the rest of the world, and hosts many global events. Therefore, there is abundant media coverage of Russia, including their political/societal stance on issues such as this. As a result, more people criticize them.

And now, back to the topic.

In Russia, gays are, as you say, technically allowed to do what they want. However what they are protesting against is not "being allowed by the state to have anal sex/suck each others dicks/scissor/whatever". They are protesting against not being accepted as proper members of society, and the "gay propaganda law" is exacerbating the issue, because it's allowing less evidence-based education about homosexuality and more misinformation.

Gays have to endure shit like being spat on in the street, being beaten up and generally ostracized by society. Some probably feel they need to hide their sexual preference from people. For example, if a Russian is publically gay, they would probably be far less likely to be hired for a job.

I'm not gay, and I don't enjoy watching gay men making out. If I'm honest, it does gross me out a little. However I also don't enjoy watching fat people make out. Nor would I want to watch members of my family have sex. Although I don't enjoy watching it I think people should be free to have sex with whoever they want, as long as the other party (parties) are consenting adults.

The thing that really gets to me about this thread is the association between gay culture and paedophilia. It's simply not true that many gays propagate any sort of paedophilic ideas. In fact, as I stated earlier in the thread, we see that historically, most paedophiles originate from conservative communities such as the catholic church.

The statistic that people keep repeating (that a third of victims of paedophilia are male) is probably true, but it's being misinterpreted. Just because the victims are male, you can't assume that their molesters are gay. Evidence shows that paedophilia is mostly related to power, not sexuality. We see a similar thing in prisons, where inmates are raped by the more powerful individuals. If anyone has got any real evidence that paedophilia is a product of gay culture, I'd like to see it.

There is also a huge misconception that reading/hearing about homosexuality will somehow turn more people gay, this I think is one of the assumptions of the "anti gay propaganda" law. Again, evidence has shown that people's sexuality seems to be genetically predisposed. Just look at some of the reports of US bible camps where they try to "pray away the gay!". Newsflash: It doesn't work very well.

Of course I wouldn't be happy with people distributing gay porn to minors, but nor would I be happy if it was regular porn. That's not the issue here, it's about people being accepted by the state and society no matter what their sexual preference (as long as parties involved are consenting adults). Pretty simple really.

This will probably be my last post in this thread, so I just want to make my opinion heard here.

I think it's sad that members of a Bitcoin community that is all about giving freedom and power to the individual over the state, can be so judgmental and ignorant about a culture that they clearly have no experience or knowledge of. Bryant, I've seen some of your comments relating to mass surveillance, and how we should have more power as individuals, yet you think that violent state intervention in gay society is somehow acceptable?

Doublethink at its finest.


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: celestio on June 07, 2015, 10:53:46 PM
^^^^

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/purpldrgn1956b/LMAO/ROFLMBO.gif

And now back to the topic. Why so much outcry about the treatment of gays in Russia? In Russia, the gays are allowed to do whatever they want, as long as they don't hurt anyone. But what about nations such as Qatar, Saudi Arabia.etc? The same people who criticize Russia on gay discrimination keep their silence, whenever anyone mentions the harassment faced by gays in Qatar or KSA. Why these double standards?



That's a logical fallacy my friend, just because something is worse somewhere else doesn't mean that the situation under discussion is acceptable.

These double standards do not exist, people who criticize Russia do not "keep their silence" when they hear about similar harassment in other countries. Russia is quite powerful, is historically important to the rest of the world, and hosts many global events. Therefore, there is abundant media coverage of Russia, including their political/societal stance on issues such as this. As a result, more people criticize them.

And now, back to the topic.

In Russia, gays are, as you say, technically allowed to do what they want. However what they are protesting against is not "being allowed by the state to have anal sex/suck each others dicks/scissor/whatever". They are protesting against not being accepted as proper members of society, and the "gay propaganda law" is exacerbating the issue, because it's allowing less evidence-based education about homosexuality and more misinformation.

Gays have to endure shit like being spat on in the street, being beaten up and generally ostracized by society. Some probably feel they need to hide their sexual preference from people. For example, if a Russian is publically gay, they would probably be far less likely to be hired for a job.

I'm not gay, and I don't enjoy watching gay men making out. If I'm honest, it does gross me out a little. However I also don't enjoy watching fat people make out. Nor would I want to watch members of my family have sex. Although I don't enjoy watching it I think people should be free to have sex with whoever they want, as long as the other party (parties) are consenting adults.

The thing that really gets to me about this thread is the association between gay culture and paedophilia. It's simply not true that many gays propagate any sort of paedophilic ideas. In fact, as I stated earlier in the thread, we see that historically, most paedophiles originate from conservative communities such as the catholic church.

The statistic that people keep repeating (that a third of victims of paedophilia are male) is probably true, but it's being misinterpreted. Just because the victims are male, you can't assume that their molesters are gay. Evidence shows that paedophilia is mostly related to power, not sexuality. We see a similar thing in prisons, where inmates are raped by the more powerful individuals. If anyone has got any real evidence that paedophilia is a product of gay culture, I'd like to see it.

There is also a huge misconception that reading/hearing about homosexuality will somehow turn more people gay, this I think is one of the assumptions of the "anti gay propaganda" law. Again, evidence has shown that people's sexuality seems to be genetically predisposed. Just look at some of the reports of US bible camps where they try to "pray away the gay!". Newsflash: It doesn't work very well.

Of course I wouldn't be happy with people distributing gay porn to minors, but nor would I be happy if it was regular porn. That's not the issue here, it's about people being accepted by the state and society no matter what their sexual preference (as long as parties involved are consenting adults). Pretty simple really.

This will probably be my last post in this thread, so I just want to make my opinion heard here.

I think it's sad that members of a Bitcoin community that is all about giving freedom and power to the individual over the state, can be so judgmental and ignorant about a culture that they clearly have no experience or knowledge of. Bryant, I've seen some of your comments relating to mass surveillance, and how we should have more power as individuals, yet you think that violent state intervention in gay society is somehow acceptable?

Doublethink at its finest.

Beautiful post, couldn't have said it better myself.


Title: Re: russia to be free of sodomites, shuts down perverted anal sex activist rally
Post by: Pro_Crypto_Marty on June 08, 2015, 10:28:20 PM
There isn't really much left to contribute to a thread like this.

I'm fairly certain all the points and opinions expressed here only served to enflame each person's pre-existing convictions. They did nothing to promote a constructive and balanced exchange.

Wouldn't be useful to point fingers either. Probably just better for anyone seeing this thread to let it go, maybe get up and go for a jog.

Can't argue with jogging.