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Title: Probable Alts Of Owner Of CloudThink.IO
Post by: TheGr33k on May 31, 2015, 10:36:00 PM
Blumangroup : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=339847

Bralex : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=153062

Rikkie : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=168298

These three accounts are probable alt of Mirjangka, though I don't have some very strong proofs but what I got makes me feel they are his alts, though I would want others to help me get more information, Maybe Quickseller can help.

On 29th May, A user started a scam accusation against CloudThink and Mirjangka over here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1074272.0

On 30th and 31st May many users including me posted negative trusts on his profile and on the same day, he most probably thought that if he posts positive feedback from his alts, his negative trust might be neutralized and he posted back to back 3 Positive feedbacks.

blumangroup 0: 0 / +0   2015-05-31   0.00000000      Did a job for him. He paid upfront and kind of a great guy.
Bralex 0: 0 / +0   2015-05-31   2.00000000      Very pleasant person! Serious and fast.
rikkie 0: 0 / +0   2015-05-31   0.00000000      Very prompt and professional.

Along with this,
If we see his other trust feedbacks,
One of them is by grtthegreat stating he sold him an account :

grtthegreat 8: -0 / +1   2015-05-15   0.00000000      Sold him a senior member account. Paid me 0.35 BTC upfront . Trustworthy person.

Along with this as of now,
The last seen online time of three accounts are as follows :-

https://archive.is/9Em5q
https://archive.is/aPvTK
https://archive.is/AiA2n

Which makes me feel accounts were opened just to give positive trust feedback.

Seeing their post histories upto first 1-2 pages, I can't find any trade history with mirjangka.
Last posts made by accounts were on 29th May, 30th May and 22nd March respectively.

I would do some more investigation and find some more things, I need some help from users like Quickseller.


PS: THE ACCOUNTS ARE MOST PROBABLY BOUGHT OR HACKED.

EDIT : Go through the thread and you will find Fathur01 : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=333342 is also an alt of Mirjangka.
Also Inotanewbie is his Alt : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=357541

Another alt of him is, Rony_90 : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=228472

It has been proved that all these are his alts so I request everyone to leave negative feedbacks to all those accounts.


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam
Post by: TheGr33k on May 31, 2015, 10:49:14 PM
Some extra findings :

Both Bralex and Mirjangka have got same kind of positive feedback from roslinpl

roslinpl 18: -0 / +2   2015-05-29   0.40000000   Reference   I won a contest for signature design organized by Mirjangka and my reward was sent to me with no delay and no escrow. Thanks.

roslinpl 18: -0 / +2   2015-04-05   0.20000000      I can truly recommend dealing with Bralex. I won BBCode contest and was rewarded with no delays and in friendly atmosphere. Thanks a lot!


Doesn't make it sure but I thought it worthy to post about it over here.

All future findings will be posted in this post.



Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam
Post by: arallmuus on May 31, 2015, 11:16:31 PM
Some extra findings :

Both Bralex and Mirjangka have got same kind of positive feedback from roslinpl

roslinpl 18: -0 / +2   2015-05-29   0.40000000   Reference   I won a contest for signature design organized by Mirjangka and my reward was sent to me with no delay and no escrow. Thanks.

roslinpl 18: -0 / +2   2015-04-05   0.20000000      I can truly recommend dealing with Bralex. I won BBCode contest and was rewarded with no delays and in friendly atmosphere. Thanks a lot!

Roslinpl made signature bb codes for Bralex before (bitcoinpokergg) and also won the contest for cloudthink.io. Both roslinpl positive feedback doesnt indicate that they are the same person as roslinpl always gives positive feedback if he win the contest

You can see it here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1018585

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1010637.msg10989152#msg10989152


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam
Post by: TheGr33k on May 31, 2015, 11:24:35 PM
Some extra findings :

Both Bralex and Mirjangka have got same kind of positive feedback from roslinpl

roslinpl 18: -0 / +2   2015-05-29   0.40000000   Reference   I won a contest for signature design organized by Mirjangka and my reward was sent to me with no delay and no escrow. Thanks.

roslinpl 18: -0 / +2   2015-04-05   0.20000000      I can truly recommend dealing with Bralex. I won BBCode contest and was rewarded with no delays and in friendly atmosphere. Thanks a lot!

Roslinpl made signature bb codes for Bralex before (bitcoinpokergg) and also won the contest for cloudthink.io. Both roslinpl positive feedback doesnt indicate that they are the same person as roslinpl always gives positive feedback if he win the contest

You can see it here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1018585

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1010637.msg10989152#msg10989152

What about the other proofs? I feel that this account was recently bought by Mirjangka.


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam
Post by: AccountTrader on May 31, 2015, 11:39:54 PM
Some extra findings :

Both Bralex and Mirjangka have got same kind of positive feedback from roslinpl

roslinpl 18: -0 / +2   2015-05-29   0.40000000   Reference   I won a contest for signature design organized by Mirjangka and my reward was sent to me with no delay and no escrow. Thanks.

roslinpl 18: -0 / +2   2015-04-05   0.20000000      I can truly recommend dealing with Bralex. I won BBCode contest and was rewarded with no delays and in friendly atmosphere. Thanks a lot!

Roslinpl made signature bb codes for Bralex before (bitcoinpokergg) and also won the contest for cloudthink.io. Both roslinpl positive feedback doesnt indicate that they are the same person as roslinpl always gives positive feedback if he win the contest

You can see it here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1018585

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1010637.msg10989152#msg10989152

What about the other proofs? I feel that this account was recently bought by Mirjangka.

Nice find! You are also right I sold him them account today and would not have said anything but he is already posting feedback on his own account so no idea what he has planned next >:(


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam
Post by: TheGr33k on May 31, 2015, 11:45:09 PM
Some extra findings :

Both Bralex and Mirjangka have got same kind of positive feedback from roslinpl

roslinpl 18: -0 / +2   2015-05-29   0.40000000   Reference   I won a contest for signature design organized by Mirjangka and my reward was sent to me with no delay and no escrow. Thanks.

roslinpl 18: -0 / +2   2015-04-05   0.20000000      I can truly recommend dealing with Bralex. I won BBCode contest and was rewarded with no delays and in friendly atmosphere. Thanks a lot!

Roslinpl made signature bb codes for Bralex before (bitcoinpokergg) and also won the contest for cloudthink.io. Both roslinpl positive feedback doesnt indicate that they are the same person as roslinpl always gives positive feedback if he win the contest

You can see it here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1018585

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1010637.msg10989152#msg10989152

What about the other proofs? I feel that this account was recently bought by Mirjangka.

Nice find! You are also right I sold him them account today and would not have said anything but he is already posting feedback on his own account so no idea what he has planned next >:(

Awesome! I am really happy that my find was all correct. Can you please tell me which accounts you sold him? Price? Which account he used to buy? Was escrow used? Bitcoin transaction? Please give all this information to help me further investigate this.


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam
Post by: TheGr33k on May 31, 2015, 11:49:09 PM
I request someone in default list to add negative trust to the stated accounts as AccountTrader has claimed that he had sold him those accounts today.


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam
Post by: AccountTrader on May 31, 2015, 11:53:29 PM
Some extra findings :

Both Bralex and Mirjangka have got same kind of positive feedback from roslinpl

roslinpl 18: -0 / +2   2015-05-29   0.40000000   Reference   I won a contest for signature design organized by Mirjangka and my reward was sent to me with no delay and no escrow. Thanks.

roslinpl 18: -0 / +2   2015-04-05   0.20000000      I can truly recommend dealing with Bralex. I won BBCode contest and was rewarded with no delays and in friendly atmosphere. Thanks a lot!

Roslinpl made signature bb codes for Bralex before (bitcoinpokergg) and also won the contest for cloudthink.io. Both roslinpl positive feedback doesnt indicate that they are the same person as roslinpl always gives positive feedback if he win the contest

You can see it here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1018585

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1010637.msg10989152#msg10989152

What about the other proofs? I feel that this account was recently bought by Mirjangka.

Nice find! You are also right I sold him them account today and would not have said anything but he is already posting feedback on his own account so no idea what he has planned next >:(

Awesome! I am really happy that my find was all correct. Can you please tell me which accounts you sold him? Price? Which account he used to buy? Was escrow used? Bitcoin transaction? Please give all this information to help me further investigate this.

I sold him Bralex and blumangroup and that would have been kept to myself if he was not doing anything dodgy. I charged him 0.52 for the both https://blockchain.info/tx/6bfb1765db011897c534525b9623984852d84f24563f5b28d25a96bf1b94f36c. He used fathur01 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=333342 account to make the purchase. If anyone on default would like to see my pms that is ok just ask and I will give my password.


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam
Post by: TheGr33k on May 31, 2015, 11:56:55 PM
Some extra findings :

Both Bralex and Mirjangka have got same kind of positive feedback from roslinpl

roslinpl 18: -0 / +2   2015-05-29   0.40000000   Reference   I won a contest for signature design organized by Mirjangka and my reward was sent to me with no delay and no escrow. Thanks.

roslinpl 18: -0 / +2   2015-04-05   0.20000000      I can truly recommend dealing with Bralex. I won BBCode contest and was rewarded with no delays and in friendly atmosphere. Thanks a lot!

Roslinpl made signature bb codes for Bralex before (bitcoinpokergg) and also won the contest for cloudthink.io. Both roslinpl positive feedback doesnt indicate that they are the same person as roslinpl always gives positive feedback if he win the contest

You can see it here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1018585

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1010637.msg10989152#msg10989152

What about the other proofs? I feel that this account was recently bought by Mirjangka.

Nice find! You are also right I sold him them account today and would not have said anything but he is already posting feedback on his own account so no idea what he has planned next >:(

Awesome! I am really happy that my find was all correct. Can you please tell me which accounts you sold him? Price? Which account he used to buy? Was escrow used? Bitcoin transaction? Please give all this information to help me further investigate this.

I sold him Bralex and blumangroup and that would have been kept to myself if he was not doing anything dodgy. I charged him 0.52 for the both https://blockchain.info/tx/6bfb1765db011897c534525b9623984852d84f24563f5b28d25a96bf1b94f36c. He used fathur01 account to make the purchase. If anyone on default would like to see my pms that is ok just ask and I will give my password.

Though am not on default list but can I see your PMs? I won't do anything bad to your accounts, just want to save a users from getting scammed from his fake signature campaign and fake PONZI site. If you want we can use an escrow, I send my account details to escrow, you send yours to me, and when I am done reading the messages, I will return it to you and escrow will send it back to me, will only cost a lot of time. I won't ruin this account for such a small thing.


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam
Post by: AccountTrader on May 31, 2015, 11:58:36 PM
In short no mate you can't lol as I said anyone on default that wants to further this is welcome, even quickseller as he is trusted.


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam
Post by: TheGr33k on June 01, 2015, 12:04:58 AM
In short no mate you can't lol as I said anyone on default that wants to further this is welcome, even quickseller as he is trusted.

Sure, I will PM Tomatocage and Quickseller regarding this.

Plus, Fathur01 is also most probably a bought account. It was most probably sold to him on 15th May 2015

Can you link me the post where you put the advertisement for the sale of those accounts?

PS :- I have edited the thread.


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam
Post by: tarsua on June 01, 2015, 12:06:01 AM
In short no mate you can't lol as I said anyone on default that wants to further this is welcome, even quickseller as he is trusted.
upload some screenshots of your pm's please, instead of offering your password


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam
Post by: AccountTrader on June 01, 2015, 12:07:32 AM
Sounds perfect! Thank you so much for your help! I will only use these accounts as my personal accounts and for signature campaigns.

Please let me know when I can receive the accounts and I will immediately send you 0.52BTC.

Wow! You have been very busy on bitcointalk! That's awesome.

I am interested in buying the following accounts:

#2 senior member 308 activity- 700 posts  

and  

#4 senior member 322 activity- 600 posts

I can offer you 0.52B for both. If you believe me, the 0.52 are all I have left for now. I really hope it is enough.


Thank you!

Perfect! The account is better than expected, thank you so much! I will use it wisely.

I would be interested in buying other accounts. Can you please make a complete list with the accounts you have for sale and the price for each? I may buy more.

Thank you again and please tell me if you have anything else useful which you want to part with.

He started of by pming me on a price of an account that I failed to sell https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1072847.msg11472122#msg11472122 and I told him that I had others that I could sell. These are pms and the guy sounded really nice never thought I would see this, glad you got it early before any real damage could be done with them!


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam
Post by: TheGr33k on June 01, 2015, 12:17:36 AM
Sounds perfect! Thank you so much for your help! I will only use these accounts as my personal accounts and for signature campaigns.

Please let me know when I can receive the accounts and I will immediately send you 0.52BTC.

Wow! You have been very busy on bitcointalk! That's awesome.

I am interested in buying the following accounts:

#2 senior member 308 activity- 700 posts  

and  

#4 senior member 322 activity- 600 posts

I can offer you 0.52B for both. If you believe me, the 0.52 are all I have left for now. I really hope it is enough.


Thank you!

Perfect! The account is better than expected, thank you so much! I will use it wisely.

I would be interested in buying other accounts. Can you please make a complete list with the accounts you have for sale and the price for each? I may buy more.

Thank you again and please tell me if you have anything else useful which you want to part with.

He started of by pming me on a price of an account that I failed to sell https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1072847.msg11472122#msg11472122 and I told him that I had others that I could sell. These are pms and the guy sounded really nice never thought I would see this, glad you got it early before any real damage could be done with them!

I have left a message to both Quickseller and TomatoCage but it seems you have already quoted it all. Is that all? Nothing else in the conversation? Either TC or QS will report in the thread anytime and I recommend giving your account details to them so that we can find more about this scammer.

And, Thanks. Actually this guy is running a PONZI scheme and also running a signature campaign without escrow service. I don't understand why people are so greedy that they are enrolling in his signature campaign even if he has a negative trust.
I made another accusation against him over here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1076500.0   Go through this.
On doing this, he sent me some PMs scolding me and being rude and saying all my PMs from now will be ignored an blabla.
I was just giving a look at all negative trust he has got and my eye caught something which is here in this post.

In short no mate you can't lol as I said anyone on default that wants to further this is welcome, even quickseller as he is trusted.
upload some screenshots of your pm's please, instead of offering your password

Looks he has already quoted them all. If any other info is there, I request a screenshot.





From where it all started : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1074272.0


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam
Post by: AccountTrader on June 01, 2015, 12:23:29 AM
Seems like the guy has split personality disorder because he was really kind threw pm to me. Anyway I have received a pm from Quickseller saying it will be awhile until he can review it but at least he will be reviewing it when he gets some time. Also just remembered while checking which accounts I had that I sold him as well https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=357541 it has not left any feed back but he is obviously not wanting to post for campaigns like he claimed  >:(


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam
Post by: TheGr33k on June 01, 2015, 12:45:34 AM
Seems like the guy has split personality disorder because he was really kind threw pm to me. Anyway I have received a pm from Quickseller saying it will be awhile until he can review it but at least he will be reviewing it when he gets some time. Also just remembered while checking which accounts I had that I sold him as well https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=357541 it has not left any feed back but he is obviously not wanting to post for campaigns like he claimed  >:(

Thankyou for your support dude. Added his 5th account to the OP. It wouldn't have been possible without your support.
Maybe we can have more information coming once Quickseller reviews it.


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam
Post by: AccountTrader on June 01, 2015, 12:53:28 AM
Seems like the guy has split personality disorder because he was really kind threw pm to me. Anyway I have received a pm from Quickseller saying it will be awhile until he can review it but at least he will be reviewing it when he gets some time. Also just remembered while checking which accounts I had that I sold him as well https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=357541 it has not left any feed back but he is obviously not wanting to post for campaigns like he claimed  >:(

Thankyou for your support dude. Added his 5th account to the OP. It wouldn't have been possible without your support.
Maybe we can have more information coming once Quickseller reviews it.

Same with you bud I am glad and thankful you managed to be a young sherlock holmes, you could have saved real trouble in future possibly coming back on me, we have/are nipping it in the bud which is very good. Not sure what else Quickseller can do apart from confirm the 5 messages from him to be fair but that will confirm he now has the accounts and they are his alts. Cheers


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam
Post by: TheGr33k on June 01, 2015, 12:58:27 AM
Seems like the guy has split personality disorder because he was really kind threw pm to me. Anyway I have received a pm from Quickseller saying it will be awhile until he can review it but at least he will be reviewing it when he gets some time. Also just remembered while checking which accounts I had that I sold him as well https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=357541 it has not left any feed back but he is obviously not wanting to post for campaigns like he claimed  >:(

Thankyou for your support dude. Added his 5th account to the OP. It wouldn't have been possible without your support.
Maybe we can have more information coming once Quickseller reviews it.

Same with you bud I am glad and thankful you managed to be a young sherlock holmes, you could have saved real trouble in future possibly coming back on me, we have/are nipping it in the bud which is very good. Not sure what else Quickseller can do apart from confirm the 5 messages from him to be fair but that will confirm he now has the accounts and they are his alts. Cheers

Yes, if I wouldn't have found this now and in future if he would have scammed with these accounts you might have come in spotlight as you are related to those accounts.
No need to worry now :)


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam (5 Alts Found Till Now)
Post by: TheGr33k on June 01, 2015, 01:22:21 AM
I confirmed that they are probable alts, but I'm not familiar with the original case, so I only left them neutral feedback. Others can give negative feedback based on my information if they want.

Now after this statement, you can throw your red trusts on all those accounts. I have done my part :)


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam (5 Alts Found Till Now)
Post by: AccountTrader on June 01, 2015, 01:33:58 AM
I confirmed that they are probable alts, but I'm not familiar with the original case, so I only left them neutral feedback. Others can give negative feedback based on my information if they want.

Now after this statement, you can throw your red trusts on all those accounts. I have done my part :)

Did you pm him? Lol niceone glad he confirmed I need to add they are only his alts from « Sent to: fathur01 on: May 30, 2015, 02:58:30 PM » up until that point they was mine and very clean accounts and that time is from when he took control of the first account and I gave him the signed message.


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam (5 Alts Found Till Now)
Post by: TheGr33k on June 01, 2015, 07:23:59 AM
I found his another alt :)

Can you tell me which account you sold to him? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=354495
A scam accustaion is going on him so I want to know that which account you sold him.

Hello sir. I sold him this account with username rony_90 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=228472).

This account was held by me as collateral for a loan I had given out. I sold this account to mirjangka (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=354495) for 0.35 BTC and he did pay upfront too.

Alt account is Rony_90 and Liknk : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=228472


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam (5 Alts Found Till Now)
Post by: TheGr33k on June 01, 2015, 08:29:50 AM
Sadly, there hasn't been much activity over here. I am shocked that no one has left negative trusts on the accounts till now.


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam (5 Alts Found Till Now)
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on June 01, 2015, 10:00:17 AM
Sadly, there hasn't been much activity over here. I am shocked that no one has left negative trusts on the accounts till now.

There is no enough proof to leave negative feedback.


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam (5 Alts Found Till Now)
Post by: TheGr33k on June 01, 2015, 10:54:57 AM
Sadly, there hasn't been much activity over here. I am shocked that no one has left negative trusts on the accounts till now.

There is no enough proof to leave negative feedback.

Did you go through the whole thread? There are enough proofs in their now to prove that those are his alts. Along with that, even Theymos has agreed that they are his alts, what next? You want any other superpower over here to confirm that?


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam (5 Alts Found Till Now)
Post by: shulio on June 01, 2015, 11:21:26 AM
Sadly, there hasn't been much activity over here. I am shocked that no one has left negative trusts on the accounts till now.

There is no enough proof to leave negative feedback.

The seller confirmed that he sold the account to mirjangka. I dont see that you need any prove again . If you even check on the post history you can see that there is no trade that has been done with mirjangka but some user give him positive feedback, this must mean that he give his own account a positive trust


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam (5 Alts Found Till Now)
Post by: TheGr33k on June 01, 2015, 11:36:12 AM
Sadly, there hasn't been much activity over here. I am shocked that no one has left negative trusts on the accounts till now.

There is no enough proof to leave negative feedback.

The seller confirmed that he sold the account to mirjangka. I dont see that you need any prove again . If you even check on the post history you can see that there is no trade that has been done with mirjangka but some user give him positive feedback, this must mean that he give his own account a positive trust

Yes, that's exactly all what I pointed out. There's no doubt left now that these aren't his alts. I request someone in default list to give them negative trusts as soon as possible so as no one is scammed by those accounts or to avoid reselling of those accounts.


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam (5 Alts Found Till Now)
Post by: mirjangka on June 01, 2015, 12:15:39 PM
I confirmed that they are probable alts, but I'm not familiar with the original case, so I only left them neutral feedback. Others can give negative feedback based on my information if they want.

Now after this statement, you can throw your red trusts on all those accounts. I have done my part :)

Did you pm him? Lol niceone glad he confirmed I need to add they are only his alts from « Sent to: fathur01 on: May 30, 2015, 02:58:30 PM » up until that point they was mine and very clean accounts and that time is from when he took control of the first account and I gave him the signed message.

AccounTrader, please do not listen to this person. He is trying to accuse us because everyone called him a scammer and I couldn't accept his escrow. The users you are talking about belong to users who are in charge of some jobs for CloudThink, of course they added feedback.


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam (5 Alts Found Till Now)
Post by: AccountTrader on June 01, 2015, 12:32:04 PM
I confirmed that they are probable alts, but I'm not familiar with the original case, so I only left them neutral feedback. Others can give negative feedback based on my information if they want.

Now after this statement, you can throw your red trusts on all those accounts. I have done my part :)

Did you pm him? Lol niceone glad he confirmed I need to add they are only his alts from « Sent to: fathur01 on: May 30, 2015, 02:58:30 PM » up until that point they was mine and very clean accounts and that time is from when he took control of the first account and I gave him the signed message.

AccounTrader, please do not listen to this person. He is trying to accuse us because everyone called him a scammer and I couldn't accept his escrow. The users you are talking about belong to users who are in charge of some jobs for CloudThink, of course they added feedback.

You are replying without looking who you are quoting bud, I have made bold where the problem is.. theymos the admin of the site can see your IP address and other bits needed to confirm you are in control of the accounts. I asked you to treat them well because of the time I had put into them not being just some crappy farmed account but my personal accounts. And you went shady straight away I feel disappointed I had to make sold accounts public but you gave me no choice by doing that, I would not know what is next and need to protect community over customer, hope you understand and to add if you would have asked threw this account I would have denied the sale.


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam (5 Alts Found Till Now)
Post by: TheGr33k on June 01, 2015, 12:47:44 PM

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AccounTrader, please do not listen to this person. He is trying to accuse us because everyone called him a scammer and I couldn't accept his escrow. The users you are talking about belong to users who are in charge of some jobs for CloudThink, of course they added feedback.


If you say that these users are related to CloudThink, then they shall for sure get a negative trust all because of the same reason why you got a negative trust.  ::) ::)


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam (5 Alts Found Till Now)
Post by: mirjangka on June 01, 2015, 01:17:07 PM
I didn't want to even touch this thread as this is started by TheGr33k which was trying to scam our campaign.

He was a proposal from me to host the escrow funds but the community instructed me that he will probably scam.

This was my proposal:

We also have a proposal from  TheGr33k  to be our campaign escrow. Please post your opinion on choosing TheGr33k as our escrow. If you think the escrow doesn't offer enough credibility, we can issue daily payouts and that means we only have to risk the first day and a much smaller amount. What do you think?


The users which he says are being used to scam (jesus!) are in fact users used for the signature campaign. You are acting like you found some proof that we are criminals, are you completely mad?


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam (5 Alts Found Till Now)
Post by: mirjangka on June 01, 2015, 01:36:28 PM
I have instructed the users to remove the feedback until they apply to the signature campaign to avoid getting negative feedback.

Please note that the accounts are from users who participate in our affiliate marketing and some are from my colleagues which will also use our signature.


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam (5 Alts Found Till Now)
Post by: Quickseller on June 01, 2015, 03:13:00 PM
I was asked by AccountTrader to login to his account and look at his PM's.

I am able to confirm that the account  fathur01 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=333342) purchased the following accounts from AccountTrader within the last two days:

#Bralex (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=153062)
# blumangroup (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=339847)
# inotanewbie (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=357541)

The above seems to have already been confirmed by theymos. Screenshots of the PM's were taken but are not going to be posted right now.

I am not familiar enough with the cases to give them negative feedback. I will look into the issue and leave feedback if appropriate


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam (5 Alts Found Till Now)
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on June 01, 2015, 03:30:59 PM
Sadly, there hasn't been much activity over here. I am shocked that no one has left negative trusts on the accounts till now.

There is no enough proof to leave negative feedback.

Did you go through the whole thread? There are enough proofs in their now to prove that those are his alts. Along with that, even Theymos has agreed that they are his alts, what next? You want any other superpower over here to confirm that?
The seller confirmed that he sold the account to mirjangka. I dont see that you need any prove again . If you even check on the post history you can see that there is no trade that has been done with mirjangka but some user give him positive feedback, this must mean that he give his own account a positive trust

Negative feedback left to every account. I had to look a bit more. I wasn't convinced before to leave a *negative* feedback.


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam (5 Alts Found Till Now)
Post by: TheGr33k on June 01, 2015, 03:37:20 PM
Sadly, there hasn't been much activity over here. I am shocked that no one has left negative trusts on the accounts till now.

There is no enough proof to leave negative feedback.

Did you go through the whole thread? There are enough proofs in their now to prove that those are his alts. Along with that, even Theymos has agreed that they are his alts, what next? You want any other superpower over here to confirm that?
The seller confirmed that he sold the account to mirjangka. I dont see that you need any prove again . If you even check on the post history you can see that there is no trade that has been done with mirjangka but some user give him positive feedback, this must mean that he give his own account a positive trust

Negative feedback left to every account. I had to look a bit more. I wasn't convinced before to leave a *negative* feedback.

Thanks for your trust. I had left those earlier only. Wish that someone in default list adds negative trusts too.

I was asked by AccountTrader to login to his account and look at his PM's.

I am able to confirm that the account  fathur01 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=333342) purchased the following accounts from AccountTrader within the last two days:

#Bralex (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=153062)
# blumangroup (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=339847)
# inotanewbie (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=357541)

The above seems to have already been confirmed by theymos. Screenshots of the PM's were taken but are not going to be posted right now.

I am not familiar enough with the cases to give them negative feedback. I will look into the issue and leave feedback if appropriate

Thanks for your confirmation Sir. Have a look in the issue and leave a negative feedback as soon as possible. Thankyou. :)


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam (5 Alts Found Till Now)
Post by: crazyearner on June 01, 2015, 10:26:13 PM
Without solid proof and facts and not alt accounts making claims if alts then theirs no scam. Until solid proof and evidence is posted then theirs not much to argue. I have just joined the signature campaign of this so long as it pays am happy here.

I would like to know in regards to the the address you have on website 14 Lloyd St. I am local to the area and could maybe call down to the office if you have one their to meet up in person and have a formal chat about the business etc.


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam (5 Alts Found Till Now)
Post by: TheGr33k on June 02, 2015, 02:17:46 AM
Without solid proof and facts and not alt accounts making claims if alts then theirs no scam. Until solid proof and evidence is posted then theirs not much to argue. I have just joined the signature campaign of this so long as it pays am happy here.

I would like to know in regards to the the address you have on website 14 Lloyd St. I am local to the area and could maybe call down to the office if you have one their to meet up in person and have a formal chat about the business etc.

If you see few posts up, you will find Mirjangka indirectly said these are my alts.


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam (5 Alts Found Till Now)
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on June 02, 2015, 11:01:01 AM
Without solid proof and facts and not alt accounts making claims if alts then theirs no scam. Until solid proof and evidence is posted then theirs not much to argue.

Seller confirmed he/she has sold accounts to mirjangka and QS also confirmed after looking PMs. Besides, both mirjangka and theymos confirmed they are alts of mirjangka. I don't think more proof is needed.

-snip-

Users from this thread or whatever posted a lot about me having more accounts and planning a huge scam. I confirm that I am using more than one account for this campaign and other business we are doing on this forum and I will post the full details about what accounts I use, who is also using them and what is their history if I really think there is no other way.
I really prefer not to do this at least for now as the hive mentality in many users will take this as as an opportunity to spam or hack or accounts for their own motives.

So thanks for the round 2 of negative feedbacks in my profile.

 -snip-

I have just joined the signature campaign of this so long as it pays am happy here.

Don't you feel bad to promote a ponzi?

I would like to know in regards to the the address you have on website 14 Lloyd St. I am local to the area and could maybe call down to the office if you have one their to meet up in person and have a formal chat about the business etc.

It's not about whether they are real or not. They are running a ponzi and it shouldn't be promoted. I hope you will remove their signature.


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam (5 Alts Found Till Now)
Post by: mirjangka on June 03, 2015, 02:57:54 PM
Without solid proof and facts and not alt accounts making claims if alts then theirs no scam. Until solid proof and evidence is posted then theirs not much to argue. I have just joined the signature campaign of this so long as it pays am happy here.

I would like to know in regards to the the address you have on website 14 Lloyd St. I am local to the area and could maybe call down to the office if you have one their to meet up in person and have a formal chat about the business etc.

Thank you crazyearner for your support!

I will talk with theymos to remove this thread. Thank you!


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam (5 Alts Found Till Now)
Post by: cazkooo on June 03, 2015, 03:03:12 PM

I will talk with theymos to remove this thread. Thank you!

Forget about it, admin especially theymos dont deal with this kind of stuff or remove a likely scam. If you want this thread to be remove, you have to proof that they are not your account but the seller of the account has confirmed that you are the owner of that accounts


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam (5 Alts Found Till Now)
Post by: mirjangka on June 03, 2015, 03:07:59 PM

I will talk with theymos to remove this thread. Thank you!

Forget about it, admin especially theymos dont deal with this kind of stuff or remove a likely scam. If you want this thread to be remove, you have to proof that they are not your account but the seller of the account has confirmed that you are the owner of that accounts


I refuse to this, I am sick of you idiotic kids. I won't do anything else to fuel your witch-hunt. Your threads are doing harm to our company and the campaigns we run here. We have done only good to the community and they finally see how you do only harm to it. Most users who claimed bad things about us have have removed their posts and more will do so in the future.

Good luck!


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam (5 Alts Found Till Now)
Post by: cazkooo on June 03, 2015, 03:23:54 PM

I will talk with theymos to remove this thread. Thank you!

Forget about it, admin especially theymos dont deal with this kind of stuff or remove a likely scam. If you want this thread to be remove, you have to proof that they are not your account but the seller of the account has confirmed that you are the owner of that accounts


I refuse to this, I am sick of you idiotic kids. I won't do anything else to fuel your witch-hunt. Your threads are doing harm to our company and the campaigns we run here. We have done only good to the community and they finally see how you do only harm to it. Most users who claimed bad things about us have have removed their posts and more will do so in the future.

Good luck!

No one is doing anything to your company. The only thing people done here is exposing your alt account, nothing is wrong with that. The only thing that you have to do is present a proof but you refused it . Actually most people that exposed your lies or alt are not a kid


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam (5 Alts Found Till Now)
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on June 03, 2015, 03:32:49 PM

I will talk with theymos to remove this thread. Thank you!

Forget about it, admin especially theymos dont deal with this kind of stuff or remove a likely scam. If you want this thread to be remove, you have to proof that they are not your account but the seller of the account has confirmed that you are the owner of that accounts


I refuse to this, I am sick of you idiotic kids. I won't do anything else to fuel your witch-hunt. Your threads are doing harm to our company and the campaigns we run here. We have done only good to the community and they finally see how you do only harm to it. Most users who claimed bad things about us have have removed their posts and more will do so in the future.

Good luck!

No one is doing anything to your company. The only thing people done here is exposing your alt account, nothing is wrong with that. The only thing that you have to do is present a proof but you refused it . Actually most people that exposed your lies or alt are not a kid

He even accepted this accusation. He posted that these are his accounts. There is no "refuting" anymore.

I refuse to this, I am sick of you idiotic kids. I won't do anything else to fuel your witch-hunt. Your threads are doing harm to our company and the campaigns we run here. We have done only good to the community and they finally see how you do only harm to it. Most users who claimed bad things about us have have removed their posts and more will do so in the future.

Good luck!

We all know you tried to start a ponzi under the name "cloud mining" and now telling we accusers are idiots? Oh, come on...! I thought you are lot better than this TBH.


Title: Re: Probable Alts Of Mirjangka, Owner Of CloudThink.IO Scam (5 Alts Found Till Now)
Post by: Xialla on June 03, 2015, 03:39:03 PM
Hello Guys!

My name is Richard Coleman and I'm privileged with the honor to work at Cloudthink Mining Ltd. as Chief Executive Officer. I will be using this account to answer your questions about CloudThink company and the services which complete our portofolio. I'm afraid I will not be answering your questions in this thread as this is reserved for a Campaign managed by my colleague, mirjangka. A topic will be opened where you can discuss about general information about CloudThink.IO and the recent public parent company, Cloud Think Mining Ltd.
I just wanted to say hi to all of you who are participating in this campaign and the best of luck to you! cloudThink is here to stay!

Kind regards,

Richard Coleman



this is new meta: CEO of "company" bought hero acc on bitcointalk to spread even more bullshit with hero rep.) masterpiece

@OP: add it to you acc list as another one

I refuse to this, I am sick of you idiotic kids.

holy fuck. it seems that those scammers don't even have some basic PR experience and calling potential customers "idiot kids" instead of explaining and proofing their "business"