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i started to report a lot of his insubstantial and useless posts (don't add anything of useful to the conversation). the moderators should take an action against this type of users the most spammer is Amph (he makes 250-300 posts per week and the majority are really insubstantial or useless)

Profile link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=99297

Bye.

Holy crap, he does have a lot of posts but if you reported most of them and he is not banned its because mods didnt think his posts were insubstantial and they probably arent if he is here after 13k posts.

After looking at your posts, you shouldnt be complaining about that when most of them are useless aswell.

OP how many posts have you reported and what is your accuracy? I would like to know if the moderators have been responding to these reports.
I'm in no position to judge, however I could objectively put some facts here.

- the user has made almost 30 posts already; judging from his posting activity per time, his timezone is close to that of the forum. 30 posts before noon.
- the posts are usually 2 or 3 liners
- posting is done in short bursts of posts (they're within minutes of each other)

I'm going to let someone else be the judge of the quality though. However, keep in mind that this does not have to mean anything.

He does reply to topics to get payment but most times, he is contributing to topics. Most of his posts aren't spam but quality is somewhat low because he is posting to get more money which obviously decreases quality of posts.

i am not paid to post here this is the BIG difference.





if i am not wrong [You have reported 20 posts with 100% accuracy]

- posting is done in short bursts of posts (they're within minutes of each other)

this is an important signal to determine if someone spam. also the other facts are important, 2 or 3 lines and the quantity of posts that he makes every holy day.




there is no quality in his posts. he is posting only to get btc from the signature campaign (bit-x) he is replying to every *** thread with zero quality.

In my timezone he has posted 29 times in 4 hours and 30 minutes. The posting maniac with such a short time between posts he can't be being that constructive. I am not going to go threw them all to see but am sure admin/mods have and they see no problem. If you see the bitcointalk twitter he was posting on there and could not wait to get back to posting lol I don't want to call out people but there are a few in that campaign that do the same.

Hey man there's more to life than tracking a fellow poster on here & checking his post quality.
I've never even spoken to the poster in question but seriously who cares, why do you give a damn?
Like a poster said above if he's made 13,000 posts & not been banned the chances are he's not going to be banned any time soon.
If he annoys you with crappy posts just stick him on ignore & then you won't have to read his rubbish any more bro.
Relax man, don't let this kind of stuff ruin your day.  8) 8)

Spam is spam no matter you are paid or not.


That 20 includes good, unhandled and bad reports. You can't tell all of your reports are handled and is good by looking at it.


I wouldn't say all of his posts are zero quality but most of them are indeed low quality.

Well i hate it when people say that thing, that you cant be constructive if you post a lot, why not? If you have something to say you can be constructive in all your posts, specially if you are replying to something that you have good knowledge of, like altcoins and mining in this case, seems.

Well the length of the posts is also quite important and the timing. His posts are very short/decent(if we factor in a great number of memebrs), as I've had single posts which would equal to 20 of his (length wise). However, there are people making long posts that are full of nonsense as well.

However, this shouldn't be the only factor when considering this. We also have to look if he's participating in a handful of discussions or posting everywhere. This is what makes the difference.
You've stated that you've reported 20 posts with 100% accuracy; are all of these posts from Amph?

All in all, this should be looked to the very detail and from different aspects to come to a valid conclusion.

Because you can not. To actually be constructive and make a longer post takes time. You might not understand why because you aren't doing it. Sometimes before replying to someone I tend to read 20-30 minutes (at least) of material online to verify information. If you factor in proper research, data gathering and verifying, making constructive posts in a short period of time is impossible.

This is exactly the kind of attitude that is ruining the experience on the forum and on the internet overall. We should not let people post nonsense, especially not for the wrong reasons. Someone else will read that nonsense and be misinformed, and it will keep spreading.


This is how a users post history should look like: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=41048;sa=showPosts;start=0


Update: Significant corrections; more to come.

You might hate it but do you think I care? The thing is if I go from posting here to another thread and post on there within 2minutes do you think I have time to read threw the OP then make my 'constructive' post within the couple of minutes? lol. Get real dude you need at least 5-10minutes between most posts to add something to the discussion. So there is your reason.

i didn't say all my reports are good i should wait 24 hours and see if all them will be handled. correct?




95% from Amph and 5% from other users. however IMHO he doesn't add anything of useful in the majority of his posts and the rapidity between his messages is a strong signal of spam and lack of ken.

I think amph is too busy posting that he didn't realize this thread?

i dunno know. another example of his lack of ken ;



reply from Amph





he can't even understand the question and he is free to post, i am disappointed.

Does he make 250-300 posts per week? That's really too much.

I have seen few of his posts and he does have quite a good knowledge about mining and he does contribute his opinion while posting. If not all, I see quite many posts are useful but they may appear spammy as the sentences are short and posted within a short span of time. He doesn't usually capitalize the first letter while writing a sentence.

Judging by his 35 posts in 6 and a bit hours, if he does this everyday then easily he will reach 50 a day x 7 = 350  :o Must get paid a nice amount. Good luck to him he is doing something right not to be banned. People should just leave him alone he is having fun OP I am certain the admin have gone threw his posts and they don't believe he is a useless poster.

yes he is making 250-300 posts per week, i came to this conclusion with the information on the signature campaign website


0.2054  btc / 0.0013 btc per post  =  158  posts  (forum attack's week so he posted only few posts)
0.3692  btc /      "           "          =  284 posts
0.3484  btc /      "           "          =  268 posts

continuous on http://bitsig.website/beta/   this week 289 posts and he will be paid 0.3757 bitcoin



having fun? he doesn't add anything of useful in a lot of his posts. he is posting that number of messages only because he is paid

I suggest you to lock this thread already, there is no point in discussing this, do you really think he is posting crap for 13k posts and he is not banned? Obviously not, he must have been doing something right, you said you reported his posts, well he is still not banned, there is no point in trying to ban an user just because you dont like him. Mods seem not to agree with your view so thats the final word.

no, it is useful discuss about spam and useless post of who is wearing a sig advertisement. 13k posts of crap? the majority of this post are useless and don't add anything to the discussion (only repetition and 1-2 lines)


do you think if he will remove the sig advertisement he will post 40 posts per day?   :-\

No i dont think so, he would most likely not post 40 posts per day BUT as long as it is accepted by the mods, what can we do? When we talk about constructive posts, we are subjective, there is no official rule of what a constructive post is. Its not illegal to post 40 posts per day and as i said mods didnt ban him yet. Maybe we should wait for a mod to say something.

lot of his posts are not constructive because he doesn't add anything of useful when he writes them. he is only reading 1-2 posts and rapidly post his useless and insubstantial post. i'm not saying all of his posts but the majority because when you make a lot of posts it is normal the drop of the quality


illegal? What we are talking about? it is not illegal but there is something wrong if the 70-80% of 40 posts per day are useless and insubstantial (don't add anything of useful to the discussion)

can you reveal yourself plz before barking at someone ?

to be honest i don't see any problem with my posts, and mod think the same too this is they let it go

there are some reiterations, yes, but this is to be expected because here everyone is repeating and opening thread about the same thing over and over again

also what is wrong with this, enlighten me


he was clearly asking about countermeasures against thieves

also it seems that you're not understanding that you don't need to add technical knowledges every time you post, you can simply post to enjoy the discussion, this is a forum after all


ah this is because, first i write my post on more than one thread then i actually click the "post button" 1 minuter after another, it's not because i did not read the op
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forgot about this


actually i was posting more then 40 when the altsection was still alive, and not full of crap like it is right now, and without carrying any sig

so you are wrong

quoted for future reference



yes thanks for the link.

I deleted the post just because don't want to fire some shots..but if you ask me? yes, please ffs - let's disable any signature campaigns on whole board..

I've seen that thread and it's kinda hard to understand what exactly OP was asking. Others in that thread have also expressed confusion about the question as well:

he didn't express any confusion :-\ he posted his useless and insubstantial reply . a normal human would ask (if him doesn't understand) but amph replied without perceived the op's question .

actually i perceived more than the other, it was pretty obvious to me

you should keep your random hatred for me, to yourself(not that i care...) and stop this non-sense crusade

good night...

I fail to understand why do these useless topic keep on springing up every day. Meta is not a place to accuse people of spamming and then again and again having the same discussion on what qualifies up to a constructive post.
BadBear has earlier also asked to report people directly to him via PM, so better do that, Badbear has a fine sense of judgement and will take care of the reported user and will ban him if his posts are found out to be spam.

I don't think you're right at all (first part). If people are going to make threads like these it should be in Meta, anywhere else would be more off topic. If you think this is a useless topic, you have no idea what nonsense people are posting in the Off Topic subsection.
As I've stated the thread is somewhat fine, only because we've had (many) threads against other users because of trust (Dogie, QS, Vod, Canary..). However, the only case that was actually correct was Canary because he was abusing the trust list.
We'd expect the moderators to act after he made 13k posts right? They probably consider him fine then, even though (as listed) some of his habits are pretty bad.

But we have topic like this everyday and we start discussing the same thing again and again, and its pretty useless to everyday discuss the sane thing on each new thread. It would be really better if people are straight away reported to BadBear, i hope you can trust his wit.

Annoying and stupid yes, and as useless as amph's posts may be I don't think he qualifies as a spammer (according to rules and mods)
This whole argument is like censorship arguments. Ban amph's and mods would rightfully need to ban all sorts of not-scintillating users. There can be no rules regarding intellectual depth on a public forum, because... autistic bitcoiners need bitcointalk too you know.
Also, eliminating sig campaigns won't happen. Even some mods participate, plenty users manage to post decent content and meet sig obligations. They don't put shit posts, you would be punishing them along with amph.
Also, the forum runs ads at the top of each page. Might be interpreted as hypocritical if the sigs vanish.

Obviously the mods have already made their decisions. I suggest to all users offended by dumb posts and sig ads that they disable ads in you account settings and place serial shit posters on ignore. Only problem with that is you'll see page after page of "this user is ignored" and nothing else

It's a tough one. Capitalist freedom or intellectual elitism....

I reported to Badbear and theymos "amph" now let them review this guy. This guy is an obvious example of spammer here on forum.

I completely agree.  I haven't been registered on this forum for long, but he's the first one I put on my ignore list.  He posts in almost every new topic and most of what he writes is complete retard gibberish.  There is no other forum I know of that has anything approaching the corrupting effects of the signature campaigns. 

Thumbs down, says Caesar!!!

I like Amph, I've bought a couple of scrypt miners and mined on a few of his pools before and never had a problem.

Ok he posts a lot but perhaps he just likes contributing.

i see no difference from "retard gibberish" and your retard gibberish post in your profile..., i think here the problem is another, here there a problem of hating someone that is everywhere on the forum, i can understand this aspect, because some times i also hate myself when i scroll some thread and i see that i'm in everyone of those(a bit hilarious but it's the truth lol)

my only problem is that i have plenty of free time and i can post all day nothing else

for everyone tired of this sig spam: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=973843.0

c&p the list and be happy  :)

Whatever dude, dont listen to them, in any case you could start a thread against the OP, take a look at his posts, mostly 1 liners with what, 30 characters at most, he complains about you spamming when his posts are total trash, his excuse? ''i dont use a sig campaign'' so because you dont wear a sig ad you can post trash all over the forum and complain about others.

I think its important to have an open discussion about this. In the end you cant put all the work on a single person (BadBear).

I thought about reporting Amph several times in the past, but I never did (at least not that I remember). Yes, they post a lot and some of it is nonsense or just plainly wrong. A reasonable discussion was not possible in my personal experience. I cant provide a link, but I remember a thread where I and IIRC LaudaM[1] tried to argue with Amph and it was fruitless.

I did not write a report because of the points gogxmagog already mentioned. We can hardly ban someone for beeing undiscerning and shallow. Amph if this sounds like a insult to you, that is not my intention, its just my personal perception of many of your posts, other may see this differently. Its also perfectly fine to have different views on things and not all are appealing to everyone.

If you however as you say hate yourself for posting, maybe you should get help. Do something else or start a new account to limit the amount of posts you can write.


[1] Sorry If I dragged you into this and you have not been involved.

it's not that i hate myself for posting that much(that was a bit of a joke of course), was just a way to say that i understand why someone could get upset by viewing always the same guy posting in every thread

if you were referring to that discussion about quantum computers, i still remember it clearly, and none was right or wrong, just different views of the same thing

I dont think seeing always the same person is something I would hate. It certainly depends on the person.


Yes, that was the topic and IIRC you have misconceptions about quantum computing, but as I said above it was not possible to discuss this with you and I dont see a reason to repeat this here where its off topic. In the light of the thread it was most likely not spam or useless.

I am not BadBear and I am not sure how exactly they judge whether someone deserves a ban or not, but if I were in BadBears position I would certainly add you to my watch list. That beeing said, I did look at your posts in more detail and never saw any reason to call you out as spammer.

Whether this is something you care or not I cant judge, but I personally would not want to end on Danny's ignore list. Its probably the person that taught me most about bitcoins inner workings, about misconceptions I had and probably still have. Knowing that I would never again get corrected by him would certainly be problematic for me.

I also remember you giving good advice in the tech support section and I certainly dont read all your posts, so my impression is flawed anyway. If I see something I think is wrong I will speak up, but thats part of a discussion board and no reason to ban someone IMHO. It would be borring if everyone here would agree on everything.

No, it is okay as I'm a pretty open person. I remember actually having multiple discussions with him that were fruitless. However, I'm starting to think that he doesn't understand English properly even though he might think that he does. This does not make him a spammer, although he could try to minimize his posting and focus on reading (if he truly isn't doing it for money).

Actually I was right and so was shorena. I have a strong technical background that will soon exponentially get better. You can't seriously expect to have a better understanding of q. computing (in this language) than me when you have problems dealing with English. //This could be said about Shorena as well (if I knew the person better).
This just verifies my first assumption. Amph isn't proficient in English [not to mention the grammatical errors (e.g. if you was)], and isn't that good at dealing with discussions either. I'm going to assume that he's from a 3rd world country as they don't have any classes that teach proper argumentation and debating.
Amph if I may ask, where are you from?


Shorena you're right and I've previously stated in the thread that even though his posting habit could be considered quite bad it doesn't mean that he is a spammer. It's good to mention Danny's list; he's a very patient person. I was on that list without even realizing, however as soon as my posting had (exponentially) improved he removed me. I honestly believe that every single member on that list deserves to be on it.


Update: Improvements to the post.

You can check his posts from january 2014, he posted a lot there too but im not sure when the sig campaigns started, if there werent any then he is not posting for money, if someone old enough could tell us when did the sig campaigns start, it would be helpful.

2012, probably.

If you check his stats he posts a lot in the Italian section.

those are just grammatical errors, they have nothing to do with my understanding of the text, i'm not english native, those errors are expected i think

about quantum computers i wasn't wrong really, we were just talking about two different things(you, about the fact that they could not break sha256 and i, about the fact that they could put a dent on the ecdsa)


exactly, there was a time where i was posting more than 40+ post(in the alt section, without carrying any sig)

Yep honestly i used to do that too with my old account on the altcoin section, there were so many altcoins (still are ) that you could post quite a lot in all of them, even more if you were following some and planned to mine or invest in them, then again OP doesnt make any quality posts himself so its kind of ironic.

Those are basic English errors. They aren't acceptable nor expected. English is not even my secondary language, yet I don't have problems with it as you do. Yes, it affects your understanding and possibility to elaborate correctly.
You might be talking about the wrong thread. In the one, in which shorena and I interacted, you didn't mention anything about ECDSA. We had a problem understanding your flawed way of expressing yourself as well. We should wait for shorena's input on the matter.

This changes a bit with a signature campaign. It is well known that having such a signature increases the chances of getting banned (I've been there).
I've advised you not to post so much when your English isn't that good yet, however you stated that you didn't care. Italy, right?  :)

This doesn't really mean that you're a spammer. I'm trying to point out the bad, and help you become better. Maybe Danny will stop ignoring you one day.
P.S.
This is not how you deal with discussion in which you're wrong. All is good as long as we don't start discussing quantum computers again..

if they are basic english errors then they should not affect the reading too much, in fact i can perfectly understand what everyone is writing here, i still don't think this is the problem, also besides those little errors, there aren't any other that i'm aware of

my english is good enough for me, not pefect but i'm there, still improving it in some areas

bears in mind that i learned most of if online and not at school or anything

when i wrote that post you quoted, it was still when i had my problem of glycemia, but i don't want to talk about my health now...


p.s. actually i don't care to much about the ignore list of danny, i think there are better user than him, like odolvlobo

I dont see a reason to bring the topic back, esp. not in a meta thread. The main point(s) is/are I personally have a problem arguing with Amph sometimes and so do others (e.g. you), but that does not make the posts spammy. It might be bad for the discussion at hand if there are misunderstandings. I dont think these are exceptionally bad if they are due to bad english skills, the board is known internationally and while most here seem to be fluid in english thats not true for everyone. Lack of discussion culture is probably a common problem, but I am rarely involved in heated discussions so I am not sure.

Amph is probably correct that these issues should be somewhat expected on a board like this.


It was just a suggestion, whether or not you act upon it is certainly up to you. I think LaudaM and I suggested this in the hopes that you would go beyond "good enough".

Amph proven himself to not be able to comprehend well, check his post in economy boards, is bitcoin just pump and dump thread

I can say that I stopped following the bitcoin difficulty speculation threads when Amph started posting almost hourly updates as to the price of bitcoin, and the next estimated difficulty based on the then current number of blocks found.

There was already someone else posting that information, which in itself was excessive IMO, and Amph following suit was just him trying to boost his post count IMO.

Other then that I really have not had any interaction with him, although it does seem that he has a very high post count, which is somewhat unusual for someone who doesn't have an extraordinary reputation

yes, he is boosting his post count with a lot of insubstantial and useless messages.

Bump

Almost nobody deserves this treatment. One of the main reasons for which his posts are not that good would be the lack of language skills. This forum is a good learning opportunity.
So please stop with this. Contact an admin about it directly and close this thread.

He openly admits to posting only to get paid. That probably does not help his cause here.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=877765.msg12227587#msg12227587

Macro might be the person to take this to.  I'm surprised he said that.

I have not had a problem with him and have been in same sig for a while.  But again suprising to hear post for money is main reason.  I enjoy the forums I think most of us would be here sig or no sig.

That doesn't really work. He lets most people off with a warning. I've tried this in the past, and the users that were "warned" kept their usual activity.
Literally nothing has changed. Publicly stating that you're mostly posting for profit is really bad though this might be a first for a signature campaign participant. I've never seen someone state this.

So what? As long as he doesn't post useless garbage then there is nothing wrong with him admitting that he is posting to get paid. His post quality is better than 90% of the other posters here in this forum where you obviously can see that the users post vague nonsense for their signature campaigns.

Lock this thread.

honestly, he just raised up in my eyes, by openly admitting his intentions and reason, why he is posting so much:


so now, it is only on mods and admins, if they are willing to keep this guy here. obviously yes....simply because he was recently "promoted" to Legendary..so, this thread became really useless.

PS: because he is posting what he is posting, is very low probability of quoting his text by other users. Once you will ignore him, Is highly possible, that you will never hear about him again..

I read through some of the posts of Amph and it does seems like nonsense and repititions.

lmao you've registered just to post this, funny, yet you need to tell me, what are those nosense post, because the only nosense one here is your and the fact that you're hiding yourself behind an account

It is funny to see someone opening an account just to say his mind, but none the less he does reserve the right to an opinion.
Maybe he thinks there's a reason for doing so, because i doubt anyone would do it just out of spite, or to spam, but i may be wrong though.

It does not matter, he is not banned because he is not spamming or posting useless non sense, this post is useless. He would actually have greater chances of getting banned because he posts a lot and he is not so just leave it like that

actually i'm not posting a lot anymore, you can see it i'm on 15 post per day on average, with some fe more post if i find interesting topic, like the new antminer s7

Amph just ignore it, it's probably people just pissed off because you're getting decent pay on sig campaigns. I've seen you around the forum a lot & value you as a poster.

No point replying to people who troll you on here, they're just after a reaction. Just put people on ignore.