Amph, the useless user!

[Lauda]

I thought about reporting Amph several times in the past, but I never did (at least not that I remember). Yes, they post a lot and some of it is nonsense or just plainly wrong. A reasonable discussion was not possible in my personal experience. I cant provide a link, but I remember a thread where I and IIRC LaudaM[1] tried to argue with Amph and it was fruitless.

I did not write a report because of the points gogxmagog already mentioned. We can hardly ban someone for beeing undiscerning and shallow. Amph if this sounds like a insult to you, that is not my intention, its just my personal perception of many of your posts, other may see this differently. Its also perfectly fine to have different views on things and not all are appealing to everyone.

If you however as you say hate yourself for posting, maybe you should get help. Do something else or start a new account to limit the amount of posts you can write.

[1] Sorry If I dragged you into this and you have not been involved.

No, it is okay as I'm a pretty open person. I remember actually having multiple discussions with him that were fruitless. However, I'm starting to think that he doesn't understand English properly even though he might think that he does. This does not make him a spammer, although he could try to minimize his posting and focus on reading (if he truly isn't doing it for money).

if you was referring to that discussion about quantum computers, i still remember it clearly, and none was right or wrong, just different views of the same thing

Yes, that was the topic and IIRC you have misconceptions about quantum computing, but as I said above it was not possible to discuss this with you and I dont see a reason to repeat this here where its off topic. In the light of the thread it was most likely not spam or useless.

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Whether this is something you care or not I cant judge, but I personally would not want to end on Danny's ignore list. Its probably the person that taught me most about bitcoins inner workings, about misconceptions I had and probably still have. Knowing that I would never again get corrected by him would certainly be problematic for me.

I also remember you giving good advice in the tech support section and I certainly dont read all your posts, so my impression is flawed anyway. If I see something I think is wrong I will speak up, but thats part of a discussion board and no reason to ban someone IMHO. It would be borring if everyone here would agree on everything.

Actually I was right and so was shorena. I have a strong technical background that will soon exponentially get better. You can't seriously expect to have a better understanding of q. computing (in this language) than me when you have problems dealing with English. //This could be said about Shorena as well (if I knew the person better).
This just verifies my first assumption. Amph isn't proficient in English [not to mention the grammatical errors (e.g. if you was)], and isn't that good at dealing with discussions either. I'm going to assume that he's from a 3rd world country as they don't have any classes that teach proper argumentation and debating.
Amph if I may ask, where are you from?


Shorena you're right and I've previously stated in the thread that even though his posting habit could be considered quite bad it doesn't mean that he is a spammer. It's good to mention Danny's list; he's a very patient person. I was on that list without even realizing, however as soon as my posting had (exponentially) improved he removed me. I honestly believe that every single member on that list deserves to be on it.


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[XinXan]

I thought about reporting Amph several times in the past, but I never did (at least not that I remember). Yes, they post a lot and some of it is nonsense or just plainly wrong. A reasonable discussion was not possible in my personal experience. I cant provide a link, but I remember a thread where I and IIRC LaudaM[1] tried to argue with Amph and it was fruitless.

I did not write a report because of the points gogxmagog already mentioned. We can hardly ban someone for beeing undiscerning and shallow. Amph if this sounds like a insult to you, that is not my intention, its just my personal perception of many of your posts, other may see this differently. Its also perfectly fine to have different views on things and not all are appealing to everyone.

If you however as you say hate yourself for posting, maybe you should get help. Do something else or start a new account to limit the amount of posts you can write.

[1] Sorry If I dragged you into this and you have not been involved.

No, it is okay as I'm a pretty open person. I remember actually having multiple discussions with him that were fruitless. However, I'm starting to think that he doesn't understand English properly even though he might think that he does. This does not make him a spammer, although he could try to minimize his posting and focus on reading (if he truly isn't doing it for money).

if you was referring to that discussion about quantum computers, i still remember it clearly, and none was right or wrong, just different views of the same thing

Yes, that was the topic and IIRC you have misconceptions about quantum computing, but as I said above it was not possible to discuss this with you and I dont see a reason to repeat this here where its off topic. In the light of the thread it was most likely not spam or useless.

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Actually I was right and so was shorena. I have a strong technical background that will soon exponentially get better. You can't seriously expect to have a better understanding of q. computing (in this language) than me when you have problems dealing with English.
This just verifies my first assumption. Amph isn't proficient in English [not to mention the grammatical errors (e.g. if you was)], and isn't that good at dealing with discussions either. I'm going to assume that he's from a 3rd world country as they don't have any classes that teach proper argumentation and debating.
Amph if I may ask, where are you from?

Shone you're right and I've stated in the thread that even though his posting habits can be considered quite bad it doesn't mean that he is a spammer. It's good to mention Danny's list; he's a very patient person. I was on that list without even realizing, however as soon as my habits have improved (exponentially) he removed me. I honestly believe that every single member on that list deserves to be on it.

You can check his posts from january 2014, he posted a lot there too but im not sure when the sig campaigns started, if there werent any then he is not posting for money, if someone old enough could tell us when did the sig campaigns start, it would be helpful.

[Muhammed Zakir]

2012, probably.

The Inpts campaigns were by no means the first, it was one of the earliest ones (and the largest at that time).

Butterfly Labs had a signature campaign back in early 2012.

Is there any links to these? I'd be interested to compare them to the campaigns today.

Can't find the thread for the BFL campagin, but https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=198934.0 is the thread for TF's sig campaign in 2013.

Some of the early signature campaigns can be found in this link
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=333916.0

[hilariousandco]

Amph if I may ask, where are you from?

If you check his stats he posts a lot in the Italian section.

[Amph]

Actually I was right and so was shorena. I have a strong technical background that will soon exponentially get better. You can't seriously expect to have a better understanding of q. computing (in this language) than me when you have problems dealing with English. //This could be said about Shorena as well (if I knew the person better).
This just verifies my first assumption. Amph isn't proficient in English [not to mention the grammatical errors (e.g. if you was)], and isn't that good at dealing with discussions either. I'm going to assume that he's from a 3rd world country as they don't have any classes that teach proper argumentation and debating.
Amph if I may ask, where are you from?


Shorena you're right and I've previously stated in the thread that even though his posting habit could be considered quite bad it doesn't mean that he is a spammer. It's good to mention Danny's list; he's a very patient person. I was on that list without even realizing, however as soon as my posting had (exponentially) improved he removed me. I honestly believe that every single member on that list deserves to be on it.


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those are just grammatical errors, they have nothing to do with my understanding of the text, i'm not english native, those errors are expected i think

about quantum computers i wasn't wrong really, we were just talking about two different things(you, about the fact that they could not break sha256 and i, about the fact that they could put a dent on the ecdsa)

You can check his posts from january 2014, he posted a lot there too but im not sure when the sig campaigns started, if there werent any then he is not posting for money, if someone old enough could tell us when did the sig campaigns start, it would be helpful.

exactly, there was a time where i was posting more than 40+ post(in the alt section, without carrying any sig)

[XinXan]

Actually I was right and so was shorena. I have a strong technical background that will soon exponentially get better. You can't seriously expect to have a better understanding of q. computing (in this language) than me when you have problems dealing with English. //This could be said about Shorena as well (if I knew the person better).
This just verifies my first assumption. Amph isn't proficient in English [not to mention the grammatical errors (e.g. if you was)], and isn't that good at dealing with discussions either. I'm going to assume that he's from a 3rd world country as they don't have any classes that teach proper argumentation and debating.
Amph if I may ask, where are you from?


Shorena you're right and I've previously stated in the thread that even though his posting habit could be considered quite bad it doesn't mean that he is a spammer. It's good to mention Danny's list; he's a very patient person. I was on that list without even realizing, however as soon as my posting had (exponentially) improved he removed me. I honestly believe that every single member on that list deserves to be on it.


Update: Improvements to the post.

those are just grammatical errors, they have nothing to do with my understanding of the text, i'm not english native, those errors are expected i think

about quantum computers i wasn't wrong really, we were just talking about two different things(you, about the fact that they could not break sha256 and i, about the fact that they could put a dent on the ecdsa)

You can check his posts from january 2014, he posted a lot there too but im not sure when the sig campaigns started, if there werent any then he is not posting for money, if someone old enough could tell us when did the sig campaigns start, it would be helpful.

exactly, there was a time where i was posting more than 40+ post(in the alt section, without carrying any sig)

Yep honestly i used to do that too with my old account on the altcoin section, there were so many altcoins (still are ) that you could post quite a lot in all of them, even more if you were following some and planned to mine or invest in them, then again OP doesnt make any quality posts himself so its kind of ironic.

[Lauda]

those are just grammatical errors, they have nothing to do with my understanding of the text, i'm not english native, those errors are expected i think

about quantum computers i wasn't wrong really, we were just talking about two different things(you, about the fact that they could not break sha256 and i, about the fact that they could put a dent on the ecdsa)

You can check his posts from january 2014, he posted a lot there too but im not sure when the sig campaigns started, if there werent any then he is not posting for money, if someone old enough could tell us when did the sig campaigns start, it would be helpful.

exactly, there was a time where i was posting more than 40+ post(in the alt section, without carrying any sig)

Those are basic English errors. They aren't acceptable nor expected. English is not even my secondary language, yet I don't have problems with it as you do. Yes, it affects your understanding and possibility to elaborate correctly.
You might be talking about the wrong thread. In the one, in which shorena and I interacted, you didn't mention anything about ECDSA. We had a problem understanding your flawed way of expressing yourself as well. We should wait for shorena's input on the matter.

This changes a bit with a signature campaign. It is well known that having such a signature increases the chances of getting banned (I've been there).
I've advised you not to post so much when your English isn't that good yet, however you stated that you didn't care. Italy, right?  

This doesn't really mean that you're a spammer. I'm trying to point out the bad, and help you become better. Maybe Danny will stop ignoring you one day.
P.S.

apparently you don't know how to read, it's not that my english is bad, well i don't care much, i have provided to you more then an evidence, and many quotes that say that is possible, if you still believe otherwise, this conversation can be closed now

This is not how you deal with discussion in which you're wrong. All is good as long as we don't start discussing quantum computers again..

[Amph]

if they are basic english errors then they should not affect the reading too much, in fact i can perfectly understand what everyone is writing here, i still don't think this is the problem, also besides those little errors, there aren't any other that i'm aware of

my english is good enough for me, not pefect but i'm there, still improving it in some areas

bears in mind that i learned most of if online and not at school or anything

when i wrote that post you quoted, it was still when i had my problem of glycemia, but i don't want to talk about my health now...


p.s. actually i don't care to much about the ignore list of danny, i think there are better user than him, like odolvlobo

[shorena]

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You might be talking about the wrong thread. In the one, in which shorena and I interacted, you didn't mention anything about ECDSA. We had a problem understanding your flawed way of expressing yourself as well. We should wait for shorena's input on the matter.
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I dont see a reason to bring the topic back, esp. not in a meta thread. The main point(s) is/are I personally have a problem arguing with Amph sometimes and so do others (e.g. you), but that does not make the posts spammy. It might be bad for the discussion at hand if there are misunderstandings. I dont think these are exceptionally bad if they are due to bad english skills, the board is known internationally and while most here seem to be fluid in english thats not true for everyone. Lack of discussion culture is probably a common problem, but I am rarely involved in heated discussions so I am not sure.

Amph is probably correct that these issues should be somewhat expected on a board like this.

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p.s. actually i don't care to much about the ignore list of danny, i think there are better user than him, like odolvlobo

It was just a suggestion, whether or not you act upon it is certainly up to you. I think LaudaM and I suggested this in the hopes that you would go beyond "good enough".

[OrangeSeller]

Amph proven himself to not be able to comprehend well, check his post in economy boards, is bitcoin just pump and dump thread

[Quickseller]

I can say that I stopped following the bitcoin difficulty speculation threads when Amph started posting almost hourly updates as to the price of bitcoin, and the next estimated difficulty based on the then current number of blocks found.

There was already someone else posting that information, which in itself was excessive IMO, and Amph following suit was just him trying to boost his post count IMO.

Other then that I really have not had any interaction with him, although it does seem that he has a very high post count, which is somewhat unusual for someone who doesn't have an extraordinary reputation

[mashcom]

yes, he is boosting his post count with a lot of insubstantial and useless messages.

[mashcom]

Bump

[Lauda]

Bump

Almost nobody deserves this treatment. One of the main reasons for which his posts are not that good would be the lack of language skills. This forum is a good learning opportunity.
So please stop with this. Contact an admin about it directly and close this thread.

[Blazed]

He openly admits to posting only to get paid. That probably does not help his cause here.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=877765.msg12227587#msg12227587

[notlist3d]

He openly admits to posting only to get paid. That probably does not help his cause here.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=877765.msg12227587#msg12227587

Macro might be the person to take this to.  I'm surprised he said that.

I have not had a problem with him and have been in same sig for a while.  But again suprising to hear post for money is main reason.  I enjoy the forums I think most of us would be here sig or no sig.

[Lauda]

Macro might be the person to take this to.  I'm surprised he said that.

I have not had a problem with him and have been in same sig for a while.  But again suprising to hear post for money is main reason.  I enjoy the forums I think most of us would be here sig or no sig.

That doesn't really work. He lets most people off with a warning. I've tried this in the past, and the users that were "warned" kept their usual activity.
Literally nothing has changed. Publicly stating that you're mostly posting for profit is really bad though this might be a first for a signature campaign participant. I've never seen someone state this.

[1Referee]

He openly admits to posting only to get paid. That probably does not help his cause here.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=877765.msg12227587#msg12227587

So what? As long as he doesn't post useless garbage then there is nothing wrong with him admitting that he is posting to get paid. His post quality is better than 90% of the other posters here in this forum where you obviously can see that the users post vague nonsense for their signature campaigns.

Lock this thread.

[Xialla]

honestly, he just raised up in my eyes, by openly admitting his intentions and reason, why he is posting so much:

well i'm advertising i'm not posting for free, yeah there are some additional post that have nothing to do with the earning but the majority are done for the money, i can not see anything wrong with that

so now, it is only on mods and admins, if they are willing to keep this guy here. obviously yes....simply because he was recently "promoted" to Legendary..so, this thread became really useless.

PS: because he is posting what he is posting, is very low probability of quoting his text by other users. Once you will ignore him, Is highly possible, that you will never hear about him again..

[ø]

He openly admits to posting only to get paid. That probably does not help his cause here.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=877765.msg12227587#msg12227587

So what? As long as he doesn't post useless garbage then there is nothing wrong with him admitting that he is posting to get paid. His post quality is better than 90% of the other posters here in this forum where you obviously can see that the users post vague nonsense for their signature campaigns.

Lock this thread.

I read through some of the posts of Amph and it does seems like nonsense and repititions.