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Crypto..

PM..

REIT's...

Another stock??

OIL ETF?


Any advice.. ideas.. stories.

Currently I am only buying PM's and Crypto, considering other things to buy.

Gold doesn't look bad to me, it all depends how the Greece thing will resolve and what FED will decide for interest rates I guess... it will be a pretty volatile summer anyway

I think Oil is best choice too at the moment as current prices of oil are low and situation in oil producing countries is horrible.Sooner we will see huge rise at price and that can bring huge profit.Gold and Bitcoin also are looking great to invest in those assets.

There are some great energy stocks  that pay pretty good regular dividends.

What I've been really excited by recently is Motif Investing (https://www.motifinvesting.com/ (https://www.motifinvesting.com/)). You can create a group of stocks (20 or fewer) and then invest in that group like you'd invest in a mutual fund. Use any theme you want to create your group or use the pre-existing groups or "motifs" provided. You can also search 100s of motifs by recent gains, topic, and other valuable information filters. The cost per trade is low and this really gets you great exposure to whatever business trend you see taking off, without the risk of investing in one company at a time.

bitcoin even more than before, now that it dropped a little more, it's the perfect time to reload your stash, don't fool yourself into thinking that it can go much lower than current price, there is no sub 200

personally i would not invest in anything else right now

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spazzdla

If you have been buying PMs and crypto, then you are in pretty good shape!  If you feel that you have "enough", then yes, it's OK to look at some alternatives.  Some ideas:

Oil & Gas LP and an ETF:

-- Tallgrass Energy Partners (TEP).  Mostly Nat Gas, they process some of it (for NGLs) and they are in a stable part of the USA (Colorado, Nebraska, Wyoming and Kansas).  Nice yield.

-- Alerian ETF of oil & gas (AMJ) .  Also has a good yield.  AMJ holds a number of oil & gas LPs.  (I own some AMJ)

Stocks:

I would only buy something that you do NOT already have, for diversification.  IMO, the stock market is risky (priced very high) now, so I wold only buy shares of companies that are strong with little debt.

OIL is a very good choice, since price is very low,
We can expect big rise in next few weeks

Still holding Tesla, Apple and Coke as basics. If you wanna get on Tesla I would wait till it drops to about 230.

Why do you think oil is a very good investment? Because it is not. It's an ok option if you know how to ride waves. Price right now looks like it is due for another dip.

Like Amph stated, Bitcoin is the best option. Just buy and hold. Simple and easy.

my personal opinion in this order: Bitcoin, oil, and gold. If you feel like really gambling, penny stocks.

I think Bitcoin is your best choice at the moment.

Im in gold and BTC prettt decently.  Alas almost 80% of my wealth is just sitting as Fiat in a savings account....  Could be useful during deflation alas I am 100% positive my gov will empty my entire account "for the greater good".  Been considering just holding a couple k cash on the side but.. I dunno that is just burning money.


I have been very nervious about the stock market as it seems insanely high.   

I feel gas is low right now hence wanting to get into it.  I will take a gander of these ETF's.   

I've been considering gaslog a LGN shipping company.  They seem to have bottomed out currently.

# Oil, why Oil ? The price of oil has been trending down lately, some call this price manipulation, and it really is.

# Gold, why gold ? Unlike paper currency, coins or other assets, gold has maintained its value throughout the ages.
People see gold as a way to pass on and preserve their wealth from one generation to the next.

*gold has maintained its value throughout the ages. *


Hum.. because of that.

Silver bullion and BTC would be best investment for the next decade.

Gold & Bitcoin would be my no.1 choice if I was buying, also Land, where I am the cost of land gets almost doubled in an year or 2. But it really depends on what budget you have.

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NO ONE knows the future.

Since OP seems to have a decent ("enough" ?) amount of BTC and even gold (or at least close to enough), then it makes very good sense to look at some diversification.

PM diversification is not a bad idea either.  Have gold?  Then buy some silver or platinum.  :)  (Note: I practice what I preach)

Oil and/or stocks would seem to count as diversification (of course I do not know spazzdla's exact situation).

It is SMART to retain some 3 - 6 months worth of FIAT$ (much of it outside the bank in "long green" in your physical possession) if possible.  Never know what will happen, and people and stores would take CA$H in a pinch if the ATMs and credit card systems go down, at least for a while.

Land.. now that is a pretty good plan..  Lots of insanely cheap land in parts of my country.. HUM..

I might just do this. I like this plan.

My friend said that invest on property has a bright future because the price of land is getting higher and higher because there will be more need on it. When land has got fewer, on that time you will got profit

I am actually a heavy owner of silver.  I have gold but my PM holdins silver is the largets amount.


I have highly considered withdrawing a couple k and putting it in a saftey box or just in my house.

Your calculation is based on fiat currencies. Always compare land prices with gold, silver, BTC, or even rare earth minerals and always take notes on paper and include date of your writing. You will be shocked when you see the results. You will be more shocked at BTC to land prices from now to next decade.

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Buying land may be good.  Just make sure that you have plenty of money (cash) to pay property tax in the coming years.  Property tax is one of the easiest taxes to levy, maintain and raise.

Don't have too much invested in land unless you are very rich.

If your land is productive land (or with good tree cover), that is even better.  Check mineral rights and title search...

AlgoSwan proposes an interesting idea to see which assets are overpriced vs. others.  + 1

buy short term government bonds.

you can never go wrong with that, and then get your money back.  :)

unless another fiancial meltdown happens.

also land are always worth something, even in a very distante future, they hold quite well their value, and if one day you can't sell it, you can still find another use for them, for you needs(like a small farm, or a vegetable garden)

I`d buy those reits, everyone person needs to pay their mortgage right.

So just go based on whats more sensible to invest.

Which short term goverment bonds that you can actually buy it? I know that most of short term investment have low risk but the payout is low too, you will get just a little bit around 10% back from that investment so it wont good enough to stack your money buying that investment

If land is so cheap in your country right now then don't count that it will be worth a lot more during next 10 or 20 years. The problem with land market is that if you buy some area very cheap it will probably stay cheap, unless of course you will build something there or you know for a fact that said land is valuable. Don't expect to earn fast profit from land trade.

True. The land investment can't get high profit in few years, so it just suitable for long-term investment that give profit to our next generation.

That is not true. Land is one of the best investments too besides gold and this is a long term investment. Because the price will sure going up again every year same as gold. Lets say you own that land and government want to build something near that land if they are not buying it they can't expand it so they need to buy with the high price from you and that will make others land near yours will go higher of course. So it wont stay cheap anymore

so, you need government to make your investment profitable. Is that correct?

There is cheap land.. it is all not cheap.

Actually we now have "most over valued housing market".. which is why I got out of it.

It would be happen if government build that. And if no, what will you do? We can't compare the investment of land with the gold, because if your land is not strategic place, it will be hard to sell, but for gold, everyone likes it.

if you can't sell your land, you can always build stuff in top of it, and produce something to sell, so still worth it, in any case

That is one of the thing. You can get profit through that and there is much more than you can surely get profit from lands too. Like if there are people building house after that the land price sure going high too so we can earn from that. There are so many ways to earn profit from land. That is just how are you going to do with your land



Every land will get any profit anyway no matter how strategic or not. It just matter of time when the price is going higher or not. If there are no government that will build anything there I will just wait for the right time or may be you can produce something good. At last you will get the profit so you nothing to lose

You must spend more money to build that, and if you do, what kind of building will you build? If you build something that people don't like it, so they never come to your building, and the price of your land will be decrease.


What will you produce on the land that not strategic at all?

Wait for Greece to crash the market and buy the dip stocks wise.
Metals are always solid, always good to have some gold and silver no matter what.
BTC is always moon headed, the problem is only God knows what is a floor and what is a ceiling with disruptive tech.

there is one thing that people will always want, and they need forever

foods

this is the answer, build something that provide some special foods, or even a small supermarket, in a strategic zone, and you are done

It reminds me an old adage: You can't eat your gold and silver when SHTF.

I think not strategic land can produce anything. What items do you need? For instance daily items like milk or eggs. I dont think to produce that

items need a strategic place to be because you can just deliver it them no need them to come into your land to get it

Right but we need other criteria here, condition of land. How could you build a plantation or livestock if your land is not suitable for that? Because the badlands maybe, or bad climate there.



Have you heard about the restaurant or food place into bankrupt because not many people that visit the place? That's why I said the strategic location is most important criteria to people when take land investment.

I would echo the sentiment on personal cash holdings. 

both things are important it's obvious, the position of your investments and what you are investing in, it's kind the same with poker, position and your hand

It's always good to spread and expand your investment portfolio. When I say that, it's not about holding all your wealth in fiat and neither should you put everything in gold or bitcoin for that matter. Just adjust percentage of your holding so that whatever comes up like for example, total economic collapse (if it does happen), then you know you are protected.

i suggest to split your money and invest it in different assets.

20% into different cryptos, if you believe that they will succeed
50% into mega trends like robotic and automation, digitalization, health, water purification etc
15% into factored long oil certificates
15% into gold

Stocks especially Chinese stocks are pretty hot at the moment, I know a lot of people who are getting wealthy right now with stocks. That's my advice, invest in some stocks.  ;)

i agree but gold has been around for ages, bitcoins may be a better alternative but since its very recent is it really that reliable, who knows what turns bitcoin will take.

Buy more bitcoin. It's always a good time to buy bitcoin as the price will surely go up.

If you're looking to just make some quick profit, I would invest in very new altcoins (through mining, preferably) and HODL until they rise.  You can make easy profit if you have a good eye on finding coins that will grow quickly.

Much better than fallow land is forest. In addition to holding a piece of land which is likely to at least keep its value, you get returns from tree growth. But if you buy any kind of land you should have a longterm investment perspective, because to see real returns you have to wait for years or decades since the market is rather illiquid with a high variance in price settling.

If you buy forest you should also buy a large enough lot to ensure that timber harvesting can be conducted economically.

ya.ya.yo!

Yes thats true new altcoin is a great way to earn some profit but it is really hard to do nowadays because you need some time to monitor the movement of its coin, with some slight miss you may have chance to get low profit or may be didnt have chance to get the profit. Need great experience to make sure you will get profit from altcoin

i think gold is better from firaun's decade till now gold is a precious, just bought it and save it for many latters   silver is good for buy,its all up to you mate follow your heart and predict it and find more information about it :D

WTB scam coin
why because i want to burn my money  ;D

Im still can't understand why some people invest her money to Shitcoin, new coin fake roadmap, and ICO

the chance that gold will lose value because they will dig more of it, is not very slim, notice how the price of gold is not raising anymore significantly, since when? years basically

and there wasn't any major pump of it, so it easy to predict that his price will not raise too much anymore and that there is a good possibility of a reversal trend in the future, if it is discovered that the supply is not limited as many think

Oil is the best choice for sure.
Prices are low and will surely blow.
Oil's the way to go.

Digital currencies had a rocky road to travel in the beginning, Banks, credit card companies, and online payment services can delay certain transactions or apply surcharges and fees—often without their customers knowing, unless they squint to read the fine print. Crypto currencies carry smaller and more transparent transaction fees, and purchases and transfers can be approved in minutes.

Betting that a new altcoin will have a good pump after being dumped by the obligatory initial dump of miners as soon as a coin gets listed in an exchange = total lottery. Sure, you can try to guess what is or isn't worth it looking at the features of the coin, but at the end of the day it all comes down to what the whales are feeling like pumping.

Yes I know that is good things to do, but it is not easy to pick or are you saying to get more than one random altcoins then try to hope that my picks will be pump? Is that so? Actually it depends on whales, how can we predict which altcoin will they pump? If we can try to guess it I think its ok to get altcoin if not better not try to or later will lost all of your bitcoin

For me this so hard to buy a new coin, so far i just bought the famous and realible coin, so many coin has removed by the exchanger and we have to be carefull to pick them

It's literally impossible to know what will get pumped by whales. Usually coins that survive a long time after a pump and have been stable at a low price for months, and those coins having a special feature, can get pumped: Litecoin, Vericoin, Maid, Monero... The "no name" coins are a big gamble because they can get delisted and you end up with nothing.

I agree.  Even if renewables take a strong hold and even supplant oil it doesn't matter too much.  In the long run, oil is still a tremendous energy source as well as a manufacturing product that will be useful.

I would invest in space exploration.  If we ever succeed as a human race, we'll need to consider expanding our living space to other celestial locales.

It is OK, that you are buying Crypto at present, however try to find some place in another stock too. I cannot able to draw you correct line of Another stock? There are numerous stock in the financial markets, well if you want to buy any stock, then go for technology related stock, worth to buy at this generations.

nowadays obviously crypto currencies. because it has bright future. So, I wanna buy ....... buy ........ buy ....... crypto
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At the moment? I wouldn't be so sure about that. The gold market seems much more better right now and it would be a pretty nice investment too. Yes, bitcoins are attractive and exciting but lets be realistic, gold is fucking gold. Its beautiful and it will always be precious unless we develop gold extracting tech which removes gold from sea water.

Gold is always a safe haven, but it's not very exciting unless you are already rich. Is there something better than gold to keep your wealth safe? nope. It's gold the best investment long term to become rich as a non rich person? nope. Is Bitcoin more risky than gold? Yes. Is Bitcoin a way better investment to become rich than gold? Yes.

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More ideas to consider re what to buy:

-- foreign real estate, preferably by a (foreign) corporation that you own.  LOTS of real estate in other countries yields nice rents too...

-- short-term, I would expect that the US$ will likely go up vs. most other currencies.  Wait on Greece...

-- very high quality numismatic coins (ones costing THOUSANDS of dollars each, like MS-60+ condition pre-1933 US gold coins) may do very well over a long period

I'd buy VIRAL. 1$ sooner or later, now only 0.02$...

maybe you can start a business in the real world such as buying and selling property or the like

No temptation to start a business, I am debating land in Manitoba, Can.

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Manitoba, Canada?  That sounds like wheat producing land (or else forest).

If you own the land, but do not live near it, there is always the possibility of sharecropping it.  You work out a deal with a local farmer, he does the work, you split the profits.  Typically, the landowner gets 50% (varies though) of the profit, the guy on the tractor the rest.

You would need to look into Canadian law and/or visit to see if it is a good deal or not.

Assuming you have a capital of 500,000$, I would invest that capital as the following:

1) 25% investment in gold, bonds, etc.

2) 50% investment in assets such as real estate.

3) 25% investment in bitcoin.

It is great to have some diversify in your investment, but can I ask why real estate in 50%? Because what I know gold is really a good investment to make since the price is the stablest compare to real estate, you need to find a good location and strategic so the price will going up and it really need a lot of capital to invest in real estate if you want to get big amount of money

500,000$ seems like a really good amount, 250,000$ will still get harharhar65 a very decent place at a good location and it is a nice strategy as land value always jumps back and with the  going population, it seems like a reasonable bet to hit the real estate.

I think Biscuits are more better to buy, it has cheap rate and  used(eaten) by everyone.

buy bitcoin bro while prices are this low
once in a month oppurtunity and hold it
until price goes high once again
then boom income right :D
just invest time

You can buy to many things. But if you want to buy in the meaning to buy for investing you must buy something in which you are expert, which you know very well and which you can manage in every situation which can happen. If you are not an expert me, at your place, would send your money in the bank (long term choice) because there is the most secure place that you will not loose your money and you will have profit. The other choices given here in bitcointalk or in other forums are like gambling. You must find the jackpot but you must even lose everything. The probability to have the jackpot are 1% while to lose 99%. Yours the choice.

Actually I'm considering to buy Gold..

Crypto being more profitable are best.  :)