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I sold 0.75btc to the user The Bad Guy. I wanted to use localbitcoin but he ask me to trade here. He said no escrow and he would not ruin is sr member reputation here at bitcointalk.

Unfortunatly i trust  him and sent BTC without escrow. 😕

to 167LMgRHP5bJBmCbigivH9Lz76ZspATXHM
txid 2dedd5c8d414dd72db3f02e2654aeaf24a48f5eb23b32ea6b8373a98c6524dff

The user told me we would transfer money right away and i never receiveid the money.

Thread - he never wrote on the thread only sent PM:


The Bad Guy
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Hey, wanna make a deal? I have $280 available right now.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1135311.0

Profile of user

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=374778

User sent offline after transaction receiveid and one your later  he reply to me

I had problems with Skrill.. i'm sending now. Do you think that I will talk with you now if I scammed you? ...
The Bad Guy
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I read another posts from him and his gambling. Is scaming People money to gambling with stollen users btc

One can buy user accounts at any level. I would bet that a senior account is less than 0.75BTC and so this was a profitable scam. If you insist on trading outside of an exchange then you absolutely MUST use escrow. I'm afraid that the only way to get your funds back is if the scammers decides to do it.

I am sorry to say that, but you should ve seen that coming. Any user refusing to use escrow gets a big red mark and instantly become suspicious. Doesnt matter that he is a senior member. Especially when you check his trust you can see (prior to the negative trust he has been given now) that he has very few confirmed transactions and is absolutely not a trustworthy member

Yes. Unfortunatly i was naive and trusted him. No longer will trust. Still hoping user give my money back. If not hopefully it will Hapen the same with him but with the triple of the money he scammed to me

well unfortunately I did the same mistake too..I sent him 51$ pm and didn't escrow due to his senior member but after reciving money he told I am little busy and its about 1hr30min now I can see a red mark on his profile and I am like what the hell...

Its your mistake even he is Senior Member you must force for escrow because many peoples buying Senior or Hero member account just for cheat and I think its happen to you trade without escrow is every time not good idea here on this forum

Just learned in a hard way. 😥

same here, scammed for $75 through Neteller. Not worth going after him since my time is much worthier than $75.

Just a good lesson to use escrow in this forums next time.

Thanks.

I am sorry to hear about it my friend , it does not matter if someone has good reviews means he is trusted , many newbies are on target and also some of newbies are also targetting innocent people as well :( , I wish you would have not sent btc as its irreversable but paypal and other ecurrencies can be atleast reversed incase if some scam, anyways i will report him too via feedback

that loser tried the same with me , but i was too smart for him

told him to f off , and he got mad lol the nerve on this ppl  >:(

never trust anyone , be smart , and trade with extreme caution

let this be a learning experience for you

You cant reverse the transaction ?

as per my knowledge neteller is irreversable.

Neteller is reversible.

Hopefully you learned from this. Stop trusting people based on forum rank and trust. In this case, neither should have gave you a reason to send first anyway.

Yes Buddy i totally agree with you ,dont trust people based on their account :)

I already bought BTC with that money so no point in this. That's clearly all, easy peasy.

You are a fucking scammer. It will happen the same to you. you didnt buy BTC you stole from someone. Give the BTC back to users you stole

I really want, but I already received a lot of negative trust and my account is ruined. I won't return anything, because the feedback will stay ;)

tsk, what a shame. people need to stop believing someone just because of their rank. I know this guy is shady when I saw him auctioning his signature space and wanted to be paid upfront without escrow.

You really want to give it back?
I know that who ever gave you the neg trust would certainly remove your bad ratings, after all your account would then be clean.
Just do one good thing, make a return please, it would be good for you to be honest and not a bad guy but a good guy, go on you know you can do this, no one deserves this... tell me would you like anything like this happen to you?

if you will return the funds to the owner we promise to clean you buddy :) or else you will loose your all reputation :P

scammers like this dont understand karma
(what goes around comes around). 

If they did, they clearly wouldn't scam.

In his mind, he is winning by scamming the money.

You are right my buddy ,he thinks he will make himself happy with 0.75 btc but actually he will be Fu***d with the double amount he has scammed and then he will think abt him self that he had made a scam.

Fuckin late adopters, scamming for a fraction of a Bitcoin HAHAH *golf clap*

Actually it's not a fraction, it's the whole Bitcoin :P I never saw you posting like this, it's kinda amazing ^^

Oh wow, my bad. An entire whole Bitcoin! Impressive!

*More golf claps*

I think this user is still on the move and attempting to scam others or trade his scammed money. It's a shame how they wanted to invest their time here and when the time that their account goes "trusted" so to speak, they turn into scam artists.

Yea.. I think that I'm kinda well treated here, and you are trying to embarrass me :'(
You must be a really rich fool from 'Murica, if you think that $300 for free is nothing, who knows.

Is that you?

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111138372/3871725-1373030102489649.png


It's bought. No time for leveling accounts up just for $300.

Why did you trust someone that refused escrow named 'The Bad Guy'? Has anybody else pointed this out yet? 'The Bad Guy'?

Yea they are dumb.. today's loot is just $220 + $50 + $75, so nothing big but I can pay my debts :) However the Neteller one is really fucked, I registered with a fake details and TOR, so they can't find me, but I could withdraw only $25 :( So the correct version is $220 + $50 + $25. Thanks guys, moving on my second account :P

I think you must be a poor fool from a poor place
if you think scamming money moves you up in
life.

Karma :) will give you the returns my friend :) you are scamming innocent people, You will be scammed too mark my words

I can assure you once you return the Bitcoins back to the OP , people who have left a bad trust on you will remove it.
Just for the sake of community i am saying this , don't make this forum a rubbish creepy.
You should return back the bitcoins to OP , if you are son of One father .

Nope. It is 'worth' for him for ruining his reputation for 0.75 BTC, because his account worth only 0.2 BTC, and doing this will 'earn' him 0.55 more than his account value. If I were you, I would risk only half of his account value, like I would risk at most 0.1 BTC to a Sr. Member, but 0 BTC to a newbie (as those accounts have no value). Risking such high amount to low ranked members are dangerous.

Update on this:

User The Bad Guy contacted me through Skype and he agreed to give me back the money through Neteller, he already sent an email to them asking for the return. He seems like a good guy but just wanted to get fast money.

I told him that everything is good and I will not loose my time for $75 but he still agreed to give back the money to me through NETELLER.

Thank you.

Is Netteller reversible? If it is, then he might be trying to fake repay you back to get his negative trust removed, then will try to scam someone else (this is of course speculation)

https://member.neteller.com/mobile/document/terms

reversible in the case of an unauthorized transaction, if the purchase involved illegal goods, or the transaction in some way violated the ToS.

Yeaaa of course, you detective! I'm trying to repay more than 1 BTC to scam more? LOL, I can buy 2 Hero members for that and scam more, without returning a shit.

Why don't you simply return the Bitcoin that you stole in the first place?

It would be very good to be true user repaying...Maybe he believe in karma.....lol....lets see. If he Pay me back i take negative trust. Good luck to all scamed

One sec...I know who this guy is (gotta find the evidence again, only called this guy out 3 times successfully in the past...). His arrogance is obvious and by the way he spoke of tomatocage I'm sure hes the same longtime scam artist here.

See below (most likely him):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=229612.0;all

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=924212.msg10145765#msg10145765

If it is the same person his name is Garrott Gardner aka Kruniac aka WorldwideBTC aka a ton of other scamming alts. Hes good at this whole scam thing sadly (over 25k estimated scammed in past before).

What always gives his identity away is how he brags about his scams after and basically feeds off of his victims' sadness. Its pathetic. He gloats and moves onto the next account everytime.

there's a pic of him there, confirmed.

someone repost it here so we can all see who it is.

this guy scammed me 0.2(52$) and I trusted him because he was senior member rankholder so I thought he will not run away because his account worth a little more..but after he confirmed that he recived pm money on his account he said he was a little busy and will send the funds soon.so I gave him my bitcoin address and was started waiting..but the hell it passed 1hr and 30min I can see some deep red marks on his account..then i was like what the heck...I saw in his trust raiting that qs and some other member has said he was a scammer :( a nice shock for me
.well I losed my money but have learnt a lession..that do not do any deal without escrowing every if it was 0.001btc or smaler but I won't send funds ever without escrowing

trusting someone just because they are sr. member doesnt mean crap.

Unless they have actual rep shown with + symbols. But, its a shame though but atleast it wasnt bigger then .2 right? heck, it could of been 1 btc or more then thats cringe..

Leaving apart the scammer (it is a scammer and a bastard, no one can change this) the problem is another. Why the seller believe in accounts that have negative trust and not only this but do exchange without escrow with this kind of people? And at the end sent the money for first. A series of errors that not a child can do. This is very strange for me. How is possible to trust such kind of situations? Can anyone explain me this behavior?

No one can explain this. At least me, not. I will never do such things. Maybe it is some kind of doing without thinking much. Maybe don't believe that in the forum exists such bastards who benefit from the good faith of the innocent and naive people. But I don't understand another thing. Why those people didn't cast out the forum and their IP banned forever. In this way at least they cannot deceived other people? Why they take only red trust and nothing else?

I can respond to this. Because the first person scammed it was me with 0.75BTC. i trust him as well because is senior account ( shame on me) :/ Probably while he was making business with me he was buying and selling from the others users he scammed, so none of them saw the negative trust. Only after an hour when he didn t transfer the money to my skrill account, i gave him negative trust and open this thread. Thats why the other user trusted him, because no negative trust when they made deal.

Account selling is a big minus, bad for business in this forum.

People say, "use escrow"

But if we are going to use escrow  or similar with every sale we do and trust nobody here, then what is the purpose of those "senior, full, legendary" tags?

I guess none.

Well if its really Garret Gardner, hes really pro scammer!!!!just google his name and there are countless scma stories with him involved!!!! :-\ :-\ :-\

I check facebook! do you think is this guy??

https://www.facebook.com/garrott.gardner/photos?pnref=lhc


With so many accusations can we do something to get back our money???

I know, i'm fucking bitch, but i'm not that guy.. Please find any connection between me and him except scamming.

// WOW He is fucking ugly, pff, I'm better

This guy reminds me of segvec who scammed (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=896143.0) SellingHBOGo out of ~14 btc. His use of the word "peasants" is very similar to The Bad Guy

Could be him as well. Although I doubt segvec would waste his time on small scams like this guy. Segvec was one of those "long con" type people. Waiting for the big score. Me and him actually did exchange some BTC for $500 or so and he always paid. So he wouldn't scam for a measily hundred or two I don't think.

May I show you your logic, Quickseller?

You and BitcoinDistributor used the nickname "segvec" in this text. BitcoinDistributor is 100% an account made by Quickseller.
What's next Quickseller? How many alts do you own?

If you look at my trust, the threads I have made wanting harm done to Quickseller and a few others, you would clearly see that me and Quickseller are not the same person. Not even going to say good try as literally you could pick ANYONE in this forum and they'd more likely to be an account owned by him besides mine.

I think it was sarcasm regarding to the Quickseller's accusation with the word "peasants". The Bad Guy did the same thing as him.

Diabolically clever long con!  No one will ever suspect you're Quickseller's alt! 8)

jk.  Quickseller prob'ly sold The Bad Guy account through one of his alts. 

They are just stupid titles, like on 99% of forums on the internet. "newbie" is a good warning because it doesn't last very long, but I have no idea why people think other anonymous people on the internet would care about something as stupid as a forum title when it comes to sending irreversible transactions to strangers on the internet.

This account was sold to SellingSenior(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=399270) for 0.18BTC on 25/07/2015. I was escrowing this trade.

I received Bitcoins from CoinGaming.io wallet according to walletexplorer.com.

SellingSenior is saying he sold the account, however the password was only changed for two times, I changed first and the next time, SellingSenior or new buyer changed password but as the password was changed in a short period, I doubt a sale has taken place. If SellingSenior could provide a valid txid, messages and prove the password was changed by the new buyer, then, I will remove the negative feedback or it will be removed if I am wrong.


https://i.imgur.com/xI80s4Q.png (https://i.imgur.com/xI80s4Q.png)

Thoughts?