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user quetzalcoatll scammed me and maybe some more.

Keywords (for SEO): Mikica Ivosevic thief stole my money, Mikica Ivosevic cheater, Mikica Ivosevic ripped me off
Mikica Ivosevic

his last posting was  November 30, 2014 but he is almost every day active on BCT

it looks that he is contacting the users here by PM as he did with me.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=360332
 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=360332)
he contacted me with I have to say a very convincing work history and that
he can deliver what I am looking for.

we connected on skype and had many sessions and he was always talking but not
delivering what he promised. for the project idea we needed a designer and he proposed a designer
who is working with him in the same company (company name will be published here and also the skype
conversation to prove my claim if he will not respond in thread )
he asked me to pay the designer in USD because designer is not a bitcoin lover. so we agreed that I
will send user quetzalcoatll the USD in BTC and that is what I did

there never was a designer he just took the 0.8

he always disappeared and was in Egypt and was not available then he promised to send me
the BTC he took for the designer but he needs to buy some BTC

I gave him every chance to deliver the promised project but nothing helped.
and yesterday he cut me off skype and therefore I decided to open a scam accusation.

I will give him the chance to send me the coins back and close my scam accusation

in case that he will not be wise enough to pay it back I still have the option to contact hi company
to explain my case.

thank you for reading and maybe it will help some other users here to be careful

Why did you send first to a 9 post newbie?

Why don't you post the Skype logs with that person?

Post some logs!

Also, doing trades with newbies is NEVER a good idea.

if you see his linkedin info you will understand why. for example
Google - Hall of fame
Ebay - Hall of Fame
Rewarded By Datastax
Rewarded By Prezi

I didnt want to post the skype conversation because I thought this guy
will understand that it is not worth to steal 230$

I PMed him the thread so lets see if he will send me the coins. if not I will
post the skype conversation and all details here and send it to his Boss.

I really hope I dont need to do this

may I ask what will it help if I post the skype logs now?

to be frank I wanted to give him a chance to solve the problem the nice way

I will suggest you to wait for the person to come online , just don't abuse him and don't let other people freak out as the matter can go worst and you will loose what you probably think.
he has nothing to loose, except a 2014 Account.
Guys don't harsh on him , let us see if the accused one is willing to pay BTCs or not.

in general I agree with to wait until he is online and then he can decide what to do.

he has more to lose than his 2014 account because I know where he is working
and I don't think that he wants me to contact his Boss.

lets wait

You can post the Skype conversation so it won't be that you are just claiming that he scammed you without evidence.

I would also exercise caution when deciding to post his work info. Unless you were able to independently verify what he was claiming was true then there is a good chance that it was not.

You won't get your money back, don't trust his linkedin profile, it's fake or bought account. Better to post the conversation log.

his last activity was August 04, 2015, 03:15:58 PM

I decided to wait until he was online and didn't post here in the thread, only then I will publish my evidence.

I know he is every 2 days online and I understood that he is doing coding work for users here.

today he logged in

Today at 08:43:39 AM

now my question is how long shall I wait now for him to answer here in thread or through PM?

This is not true, I didn't scammed him.

I already send him project source code (before 7-10 days) because I don't have time to finish project and he will find other developer to finish this task, he can confirm that or I will publish here bitbucket link, it's a private repository, but I can change that.

He sent 0.8btc to me for backend, for source code on bitbucket, not for design, he already have done designs for project, I will publish both designs (html/css) that he sent to me. So if he already had two similar designs for project from two different designers, why he need third design from me or my friend ? Maybe because he don't telling the truth ?

This is design that he sent to me: http://www.dodaj.rs/f/1A/Bf/28lb4Spz/elm1.png
 
Don't allow him to manipulate with you guys and yes, I understand, I am newbie and he is senior member here, but please read posts carefully.

You will contact my company and you will tell them that you already have two similar designs, but you wanted third design and you send BTC to guy who is penetration tester and back-end developer to do that, seriously ?

If you guys think that I need to send him my fair earned btc, I will do that.

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hey guys

please tell me your opinion now

I received this PM now from this thief

http://screencast.com/t/BRQv0QVh (http://screencast.com/t/BRQv0QVh)

That is funny because the image shows some header from Jackpotracer but with different game (references below ) and Is that the same totolino in MoneyPot ?

References : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1110445.0 ; https://www.moneypot.com/users/totolino


The screencap clearly shows that he accused you of lying and he said that he got a proof that he had asked you to find another developer (references below ) . While on the other hand you insisted that he is the one lying about this thing and have the proof of him lying, that lead to two different story and there is no way to judge this if neither one of you provide a proof for your claim.

However providing the skype conversation as well as the other proof will means that you are leaking an idea about your ongoing project that could resulted in someone stealing it. Instead of providing this then I would suggest to make a contact through the company to solve this in a good manner rather than pointing guns to each another's head and  risking the project

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On a side note, which one of you is totolino? I knew totolino from MoneyPot though he is a fine man

what do you want to say now? if he is totolino then I am the lier and cheater?

and I really don't care if he will post any game idea because all games are already invented

but thanks for your opinion

You are being delusional, I am merely asking which one is totolino and that is all. I have no seat on this fight and Im not planning to. Cant we just back to a very civilized society where everyone has no ill thoughts? this is becoming more and more like the wild west. This is actually funny to see someone accuse me of something weird when Im just asking for a legit question


If there is no harm to the ongoing project then you could post the skype conversation so everyone can judge who is "guilty" on this . At this moment there will be no conclusion if both party remain silent without any proof but only pointing fingers to each another.
This thread is in scam accusations section which means that you need to actually provide proof to show that the other party is guilty. Simply provide your proof to show that he is the liar and ask for a refund or else contact his company to solve this thing


No problem , your are welcome

actually I was joking around and wanted to see how much you trust totolino   ;D

I apologize

I know arallmuus and his team as very nice and fair guys

cheers

and now a small appetizer to prove his lies and the thief and blackmailer is invited to post more bullshit and lies

serie of 3 screenshots

I blacked screenshots that are not of interest http://screencast.com/t/1cGANNYKY  (http://screencast.com/t/1cGANNYKY)

here I left out some text not of interest http://screencast.com/t/7MdMINF2Z (http://screencast.com/t/7MdMINF2Z)

http://screencast.com/t/ypsRnrDX9 (http://screencast.com/t/ypsRnrDX9)

lets see if it helps a bit to shed some light.........

there is plenty left to show

According to his linkedin profile,I guess this guy live in Serbia. am I right ?.
This guy also promoted lotto with nokia lumia as a prize, can't find the thread anymore. Probably mod has deleted it. I've tried to call the number he provided in who.is, but unreachable.
if he scammed you, i think there is nothing you can do since I think all of his info is fake.

thank you very much for the posting. yes you are right thats him. to be frank it is not anymore about
the 0.8 because after his answer with the stupid lies I understood that I will not get it back. but I will allow
myself a little Vendetta.

I am not sure that his infos are fake because then there needs to be the real person he is faking and I found his
photos on instagram and one photo is showing him one month ago and  it really looks like egypt and if not it doesnt matter because when we skyped he was saying he has no good internet connection and on mobile so I have to wait till he is back.

I will post soon his details so if some one will google his name he will find it also here. maybe like this we can stop him or at least save some users coins.

another screenshot shows him on his skype profile with his name ( or fake name)
http://screencast.com/t/dx7sTFntV8O3

the text above in skype will show that he tried to convince me that he regrets what happened
and he wants to pay back the coins. I believed him.

maybe some users here will read it and can confirm his cheat

@qory

here is the proof that it is him and not a fake. he didn't use the profile of
Mikica Ivosevic - he is Mikica Ivosevic https://www.linkedin.com/pub/mikica-ivosevic/6b/334/595 (https://www.linkedin.com/pub/mikica-ivosevic/6b/334/595)

look here in my skype conversation he said he is in Egypt and on the instagram picture he is in Egypt
exactly same time. so it is with certainty him. http://screencast.com/t/s1n2Co8jo (http://screencast.com/t/s1n2Co8jo)

and also on instagram is the same pictures from 2 years ago that he is using in his skype profile
http://screencast.com/t/dx7sTFntV8O3 (http://screencast.com/t/dx7sTFntV8O3)

in my opinion he is a talented coder with a fucked up brain.

You are sick, very sick, how much did you pay your designer to do this skype conversation ? Next time tell your designer to do on Windows 7/8 form, not on Windows XP form.

You already tryed to cheat your designer, he sent you design but you didn't want to pay him, you know very good what I am talking.

I will send you my fairly earned money to buy some tranquilizers :)

I am security guy and backend developer, I don't know to do design and he sent me money for design, but not for coding ( http://pastebin.com/ffiRvW3S ), wtf ?

0.8BTC ~ 10 hours of my work...

I will report this and I will send all what I have to moderator...

haha you are a real joker. yes you are a security guy and backend coder but you forgot to say that you are also a thief and blackmailer  ;D

at least we know now that you are not a fake like user qory thought

and you are welcome to give all you have to the mod or any other trusted user and I will give what I have.

and you yourself told me not to pay this shitty designer  ;D (I have it on skype) almost fell off the chair laughing

and here another faked skype conversation that has cost me nothing because you delivered it for free  ;D
http://screencast.com/t/2xE4DdqNeE (http://screencast.com/t/2xE4DdqNeE)

and I really thought you have some intellect but the more you talk (write) the more you screw yourself deeper and deeper in the shit

oh and please don't forget to report this

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1140016.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1140016.0)

and the same time you scammed me and you were busy working for people as
freelancer haha

and guess who owns this domain? wow good guess Mikica
https://who.is/whois/bitcoinluckyticket.co (https://who.is/whois/bitcoinluckyticket.co)

and again almost falling off my chair laughing

lets see if I find some more oh and BTW google is my best friend  ;D

P.S. did you get rid of the NOKIA LUMIA 930 I really hope so although to be frank Egypt is not that expensive

I thought I will bring this thread up so user will be warned in case they will
meet quetzalcoatll aka hexbit and who knows how many aliases he has

I found another part of conversation where he is offering his designer
and I need to pay him for the designer.

just another proof for his stupid lies

http://screencast.com/t/Ng2qvg5Bf (http://screencast.com/t/Ng2qvg5Bf)

please post any info in case you had contact to this guy and if he also stole some coins from you.
it will help other people not to fall in his traps

thanks

weekly bump for Mikica Ivosevic[SCAM ALERT]

Sorry, but whoever told you that THIS was a design... was lying.   :D

thank you for confirming. and how do you explain that Mikica Ivosevic with such a profile
https://rs.linkedin.com/pub/mikica-ivosevic/6b/334/595
 (https://rs.linkedin.com/pub/mikica-ivosevic/6b/334/595)
is cheating people out of a few coins?

I don't know, and tbh, I don't want to get dragged into something, here. What my post should imply was simply that this forum is so full of shit, with users smiling at each others' faces when silently pissing at each others' legs whenever the other one isn't watching closely that it's just hard to judge who is a scammer at any given time.

We have seen so much, here. Users with best interests who turned out to be scammers, eventually. Just look at Maidak. Everybody said "don't worry, he'll show up and pay you with good interest, for sure", and what happened?

At the end of the day, reading The Sun (or whatever boulevard newspaper you prefer) helps me more to find out about scammers on BCT than reading its own, dedicated scam accusations section.

And I cannot even say that it makes me sad, because that would just be naïve. This is a board about some pseudonymous internet money, of course there are scammers out there, and of course they want whomever's money, and of course you'll end up being scammed if you participate in trades here or use only some of the services being advertised here.

Why didn't I really get scammed here, before? Because I didn't do any business here, with none of you!

partly I agree here. but many scams are very easy to understand if you look at them after they happened. to catch them in advance is already more difficult.

in my case it is very easy see and understand who is the cheater.

afterwards it is easy to be the smart one

Often, it really is easy to be the smart one, after.

But I partly disagree with you. Before reading on, please understand that I don't suspect you on any of this, but in a virtual world like the one we're "living" in, there is no such thing as "proof". And if there is, it is very hard to obtain. There is always one instance you have to trust to consider any kind of proof valid.
Screenshots can be faked easily, or correspondence can be published out of its original context to make the other party involved look bad. It's not that it didn't happen before on this very forum. People were taken for a ride, sympathizing with the poor victim just to find out that the victim is one hell of a con artist.

That's what makes scams even harder to spot. And I'm not talking about those obvious "pay me 10 bucks and I'll repay you 1000" scams. Who falls for this doesn't deserve better, imho (though 10 bucks wouldn't be that expensive of a lesson). I'm talking about matters which are arranged between users with little to no insight for the public.

fair enough and all is fine what you are saying. but if 2 have differences it is easy to see who is right or not if they agree to sit at the table and each one will tell his version

take my case. the cheater disappeared. yes all my skype etc could have been faked but I offered to give all skype
conversations = original file that can't be faked to any trusted member. I would do everything to proof it because
I can.

Mikica Ivosevic knew it and disappeared because he would lose the case. and believe me that if he could proof that he is right he would do it. this case is to easy

and imo it is good that this scam accusation exists

Of course it is good that it exists! It's just important for users to know that they're not supposed to blindly swallow anything they're fed here. This subsection of the forum doesn't prevent anybody from doing his own due diligence, but nevertheless, it's an important part of the forum.

as you said .............doing his own due diligence!!!!