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As the title says, the fee for opening a new account on MPEx is 30 BTC, effective immediately. Already existing accounts are unaffected. The fee is projected to keep increasing for the indeterminate future.

GLBSE has better assets and is free.
I am now even less likely to sign up to you.

How much is the registration fee for the underage porn site?

Not anymore it's not.

Maybe not, but I wouldn't give ~400 dollars for nothing to someone who cannot pay 10 dollars for a domain; so hosts it on a subdomain of a site which hosts child prn anyway.

Um, MPEX has always had better assets than GLBSE, but anyway, your statement is certainly not true anymore!

I might start a clone after all

By the way, read my signature and PM me if interested in account ;)

It's not April Fools Day yet.

MPEx has two assets I think are possibly worthwhile: SatoshiDICE and BitVPS.  There are pass-throughs for both of them on GLBSE.

I'm sorry. Passthroughs on what? What is this GLBSE nonsense? glibse, glibsy? Is this supposed to be another exchange or what?

One day when you get your site using the "new" bitcoincharts API, people may remember it and start trading there again!

Yes, it's another exchange...like NASDAQ vs NYSE.  Apparently it's down right now: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/10xtqg/glbse_the_biggest_bitcoin_stock_exchange_just/

So it is. I wonder how that could have happened.

Um... What?

How do you justify this ridiculous fee?  where/to whom does this fee go? 

Only 25 if you use a referral like 27AF75321F2489E8 :)

Wow, using the issues that GLBSE is having to gouge people?

Fuck you and the horse you rode in on. I'll do my best to ensure you fail.

This site is operated by a guy in ROMANIA. If you know anything about this country, you would stay the hell away.

Seriously, anyone that pays this fee is retarded.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/MPEx

Hey nothing against Romania its a poor but really nice country with nice people.

As for the rest you said, I completely agree.

I take it you've never seen Romanian girls.  :-*

Yes, I have. They tried to steal my wallet (while in paris). Seriously dodgy fuckers

Paris? Pretty sure they were Romani, not Romanian. Sounds alike, different thing.

Well Roma does originate mostly from romania, but yes, they are two different things.

Justify? What do you take yourself for, Obama?


Bring it.

Also "the issues" GLBBQ "is having" is the misnomer of the month. See here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=114442.msg1244763#msg1244763).

Customer service win.  Have a good time.

That's not how it works.  You have to justify to yourself that it's worth the fee.

If they haven't communicated value, then they've failed at marketing.

Different things.  They don't owe you anything, so they don't have to justify anything.

WOW 30btcs to use a site that is designed worst than craigslist and has two stocks. I would like to know how this fee is going to help the site. Are you going to get more servers? Are you going to focus on a better UI and maybe an API? I mean I would never pay for something that obviously doesn't show a return in the site.

The fee is mostly there to keep out people who have no business investing. These may or may not be the sort of people that don't distinguish worse and worst.

Load of bull. You are just milking users.
What about small scale investors? They certainly have buisness investing, but cannot afford 30 BTC.

Again, its 25. Also, http://coinbr.com

So to invest in an exchange I have to go to a totally different website?
Wow.

That is what he wants, he only wants whales on his service, obviously from that statement.

I would gladly pay 30btcs, I probably pay up to 50 btcs for lifetime trading but when it looks like that money is just going into someone's pocket and not actually helping the site, or making attempt to make the site better, and cleaner, and at least buy a domain. I mean that is where my problem lies and while we are all greedy here, your level of greed super seeds anyone's else.

Awh man I hate it when I have to have human contact

:D

If you want to take my money, that's how it works.

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(from here (http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/mpex-devtalk/))

Stop and think for a minute. There's this exchange website which deliberately eschews turning itself into a broker, in order to allow people in the community to do something useful by themselves. It deliberately and at some expense is designed and built to empower the community.

And what you do is trashtalk it and so forth?

Ponder that for a while.

build something better, or charge less.  it's that simple.

How much is security worth to you?  GPG signed orders, huge liquidity in some issues (S.MPOE), only quality companies.


The reason there are only 4 stocks is that there are only 4 companies out there that are worth investing in.  The rest are either scams or run by the incompetent.

The site is fully functional, and once you figure out how to do the gpg stuff (a bit tricky), which is REQUIRED if you care about security of your coins, you can place and cancel trades more quickly than on the former exchange known as GLBSE.

Bloomberg terminals are not easy to use, are ugly, and expensive as hell.

Why do they dominate the market?

Wow worse than craigslist? We all know what a failure that guy's site is.

You've just convinced me to use a bloomberg terminal rather than mpoe.

If they add bitcoins on there, we will all be rich.

MS-DOS once dominated the market too.  That doesn't mean as much as you think it does.

Let me tell you. :-)

1) They are easy to use once you get to know how to use them.  Much like any computer application.  They are for power users, not people who expect F1 to be the DWIM key.

2) Expensive is relative.  The cost to the average user is not major compared to the ROI.  There are less expensive options for day traders and other consumer-level traders, but they don't have the full featureset (which you may not need).

3) They are *nuts* about innovation.  They keep the interface pretty static (which makes sense) and continually test and improve the backend.

4) Per #1, the industrial ubiquity means that you can go from terminal to terminal, floor to floor, and while the layout may be different, you'll be able to use the system.  Your dad can teach you how to use it, if he's in the industry.  The number of people who can help you (beyond the people coming out from Bloomberg to train you, or at their corp facility) is immense.

Funny, this reminds me of GPG.

It isn't a failure cause the data is good and it is free, same with MPEX the data could be good, but if the design isn't there plus the lack of an API will never attract the big users they want.

And you know. Cause you're like, on the internet. And know things. And stuff. Stfu?

You know, in 'merica, it's the laws and regulations that require that, right?

I think he was being sarcastic.

It goes to their crack team of web developers. That's why the site is so slick and doesn't have to share a server and domain name with a romanian porn board.

Bitcoin is all about crowdsourcing. Besides, it's better for potential issuers/shareholders that there are more users on the site to drive volume, this will not help that.
Also, you're the most incredibly condescending business representative I've ever had the displeasure of speaking to. There's a reason your ignore button is highlighter-orange.

I know I don't like naked girls and imageboards near my exchanges cause that totally makes your exchange legit LMAO your graphs look like two year draw them, you don't know how to use html tables, I can say that. Come on dude for 30 btcs I am looking for an exchange that at least has an API COME ONNNNNNNN.

Even shutdown GLBSE is better than Mpex.....that is how much the mpex setup sucks.

Plus....the PR person is kind of a douche. Usually PR isn't supposed to be an a-hole (as demonstrated in every thread she takes part).

Hey, MP, I would be willing to work for bitcoin as your PR person. I would not scare away potential investors by calling them names. How about it?

You could hire Josef Fritzl to be your PR person and present a better public image.

MPEx could have so much potential, all it needs is:

-Lower registration fees. Make up for it by charging more for listings if you like, but I don't see why many people paying $350 to trade the paltry few securities on there at the minute, particularly with the regulatory risk involved. More users = more volume = more securities.
-A site that doesn't look like absolute arse. Again, this would bring in more users, image is important to a lot of people.
-Its own domain name that it doesn't share with a romanian porn site (I mean really, nice image).
-A PR person who understands that "Public Relations" is supposed to be about being helpful and polite, getting your exchange some good rep and some good publicity. Alternatively you could get a Grizzly Bear in an SS uniform, that'd be a slight step up from the current PR rep.

Unfortunately the chances of that happening are about the same as the chances of me finding buried treasure in my garden, so I guess we'll just have to wait for some budding entrepreneur to set up a viable GLBSE replacement.

*Evil cackle*

One does not simply...walk into PR for MPEx.

Peeps, just please stop repeating this cliche.

Conglomerate domains have their tactical uses, in this case as probably as a anti-filtering and anti-takedown measure. I don't have a specific knowledge about polimedia.us and Romania; but a conglomerate domain that would host a bitcoin securities exchange and a financial news site would have a very good prior restraint defense against stupid takedowns.

In Europe this tactic worked for the users of LiveJournal and many other traditional publishers.

This "dedicated domain name" really is a cheapo marketing shibboleth. If you don't believe me, read the post of the local hit&run marketing expert: reeses. Of course I have to quote it in full, since reeses always doing the purge of his posts before he runs.

I don't think the fact that MPEx lacks a dedicated domain name will stop a securities investigation  :D

In addition to which, is it really wise to have it on a ".us" domain?

With the heat Bitcoin is taking the hosting of pornographic material is a liability and an un-needed risk for the exchange on all its participates. 

plus that domain is registered in the USA LMAO and all the information is in the who is just look

The PR person is horrible, they are not what you would want coming from a business. The site is horrible to look at and I can not understand it. How am I supposed to move my Security there? Ltc global is way better, and I do not even own lite coins lol.

IMO it is better to be upfront about the association with pornography.

BitPay came out of the need for pornographers associated with Stare Magazine to have non-reversible payment method.

Lots of merchants using BitPay will have to do extensive hand washing once this becomes a wider knowledge.

What makes you think that you have "a security" or you'd be even remotely considered? Seriously now (http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/how-does-one-list-on-mpex/)...

So you are basically saying: Unless you have 3 months of revenue in bitcoin, go away. Clearly, MPEx is not there to provide crowd funding for small projects. Serious entrants only. Unlike GLBSE, the operator does not see this as a "toy".


From a PM to me:

Even if I did meet your standards, I would not list with you. Your site looks like shit... Vote on that? And you speak from emotions just like nef did, which makes you just as bad. It does not matter if you are the leader or not you still make the site look bad. See what I said before was just from a outside view and you took it personal not as a learning tool. Stop taking it so personal and worry about your business and not your feelings.  ;)

Bitcoin macht frei!

Anyone here heard of Marc Emery... Never came to the U.S. but is in us prison or how about Manuel Antonio Noriega just some people that never set foot in the U.S. but pissed off the gov. They think they are free and clear thanks to a legal team... U.S VS YOU  The U.S. bank roll = everlasting compared to MPEx = small I am sure lol

I could give two flips less if you let me in your exchange, it is no better then mine... which does not exist lol. Your exchange is in just as much danger as the others do not down play it. The thing is if you do not comply the chance for loss is larger....... which you said you would do already.

Whoa, you should get a prize or something. The sheepsies in clown costumes running around here have been struggling with this for what, a month now? Two?


You ever heard of George Soros?

George Soros, can not be related to bitcoin in any way if so please point out how....

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The last time I was not lazy and double checked the community blasted me for "Talking to the feds".
Or is that past you? Fuck your lazy talk and fuck your shrimp talk bubba gump. I'm done being nice to bitcoin people.................

Well firstly, we weren't discussing bitcoin. You were yakking about "pissing off the gubermint". Soros' been a fugitive from US justice for what, 20 years now? 30? Just because wikipedia doesn't tell you things you shouldn't know doesn't mean they don't exist. (Tax fraud).

And since we're naming names, Roman Polanski might work too, tho he wasn't either rich or important enough to really matter in this discussion. Oh, and that wikileaks guy is still giving your wanna-be "gov't of whole world" the finger.

Wake up and smell the coffee. It's a big world and it mostly doesn't give a bacon wrapped shit about the US. Every highschool has this retarded kid who thinks he "dominates" or w/e. Usually twenty years later he's the janitor working some highway gas station.

And unless you're a jew or a salmon this bear could actually be nice to you !