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Title: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: bryant.coleman on September 11, 2015, 05:43:52 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/saudi-arabia-offers-germany-200-mosques--one-for-every-100-refugees-who-arrived-last-weekend-10495082.html

During the past 7 days, some 20,000 Muslim "refugees" have arrived in Germany. The main issue which these refugees are facing right now is that they can't find enough mosques in Germany, to offer prayer services. And His Highness Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud has resolved this issue, by promising to build 200 new mosques in Germany, to offer services to these "refugees".

In the next 3 months, Germany is expected to receive up to 800,000 "refugees". So we can expect His Highness Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud to build 8,000 new mosques, for these poor "refugees".

And it must be remembered that in the past 3 years, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has granted refugee status to a total of nine refugees from Syria (out of a total of 13 applications). The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) has praised the efforts by the Kingdom, to provide safe shelter for the poor Syrian refugees.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Wilikon on September 11, 2015, 05:49:25 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/saudi-arabia-offers-germany-200-mosques--one-for-every-100-refugees-who-arrived-last-weekend-10495082.html

During the past 7 days, some 20,000 Muslim "refugees" have arrived in Germany. The main issue which these refugees are facing right now is that they can't find enough mosques in Germany, to offer prayer services. And His Highness Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud has resolved this issue, by promising to build 200 new mosques in Germany, to offer services to these "refugees".

In the next 3 months, Germany is expected to receive up to 800,000 "refugees". So we can expect His Highness Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud to build 8,000 new mosques, for these poor "refugees".

And it must be remembered that in the past 3 years, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has granted refugee status to a total of nine refugees from Syria (out of a total of 13 applications). The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) has praised the efforts by the Kingdom, to provide safe shelter for the poor Syrian refugees.








Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: saddampbuh on September 11, 2015, 09:03:56 PM
https://i.imgur.com/mOgxfKu.jpg


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: eneilwex on September 11, 2015, 09:17:18 PM
Is Merkel on a sucide mission? This refugee crises has to be the end of Europe the way we know it. The Islamization of Europe is well underway, and its leaders cant see it.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Denker on September 12, 2015, 10:24:23 AM
Is Merkel on a sucide mission? This refugee crises has to be the end of Europe the way we know it. The Islamization of Europe is well underway, and its leaders cant see it.

She definitely is! People here are already pissed. Everyday we get brainwashed by media and press which is brought into line. People are clapping and welcoming the refugess in TV. This pictures go around the world and more and more wanna come.Just in this year we will see 1.000.000 refugess coming. The old number of 800.000 has been corrected.

But Merkel is getting confronted with people of her own party and from CSU party in bavaria.I doubt this will help.
The people here are not stupid. We see  and recognise the difference between public opinion and published opinion.
Politics tried to tell us that these are all well educated people, acedemics etc.Really? They don't have any passports or documents.So how can they know?And does Syria, Afghanistan, Irak ever had any big industry? No! So it's all Bullshit I say!
And most of them are all young men.Now guess what? If they get asylum they will bring their families.So we might see 2-4 million of them the next years here.

Even our migrants from 1960s and their second and third generations are pissed. The turks, Lebanese here say this is getting trouble.
It's about the masses who are coming.We will never be able to handle that.We already have parallel societies. No go areas in the big cities where even police is afraid to go.You go there and get called a potatoe!

Merkel and her fat Vice chancelor Gabriel are ruining the country.
I'm far away from being a racist, Nazi or whatever. But this is too much.Germany is running the risk to lose it's identity.And a big part of the society is thinking as I do. They are just afraid to go out because you will get called a Nazi!
Many Germans have lost their courage and pride to shout out what they are.
But what is boiling under the surface is going to explode one day if politics will not act immediately.Very very serious situation.

EDIT: I forgot to mention that the german government is not really worried that under all these refugees might be also ISIS warriors or other sleepers. How crazy is that please! They're flooding in completely unregistered.No documents. They can make any bullshit story and our police say they have to believe them.Ridicolous!


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Wilikon on September 12, 2015, 01:51:11 PM
Is Merkel on a sucide mission? This refugee crises has to be the end of Europe the way we know it. The Islamization of Europe is well underway, and its leaders cant see it.

She definitely is! People here are already pissed. Everyday we get brainwashed by media and press which is brought into line. People are clapping and welcoming the refugess in TV. This pictures go around the world and more and more wanna come.Just in this year we will see 1.000.000 refugess coming. The old number of 800.000 has been corrected.

But Merkel is getting confronted with people of her own party and from CSU party in bavaria.I doubt this will help.
The people here are not stupid. We see  and recognise the difference between public opinion and published opinion.
Politics tried to tell us that these are all well educated people, acedemics etc.Really? They don't have any passports or documents.So how can they know?And does Syria, Afghanistan, Irak ever had any big industry? No! So it's all Bullshit I say!
And most of them are all young men.Now guess what? If they get asylum they will bring their families.So we might see 2-4 million of them the next years here.

Even our migrants from 1960s and their second and third generations are pissed. The turks, Lebanese here say this is getting trouble.
It's about the masses who are coming.We will never be able to handle that.We already have parallel societies. No go areas in the big cities where even police is afraid to go.You go there and get called a potatoe!

Merkel and her fat Vice chancelor Gabriel are ruining the country.
I'm far away from being a racist, Nazi or whatever. But this is too much.Germany is running the risk to lose it's identity.And a big part of the society is thinking as I do. They are just afraid to go out because you will get called a Nazi!
Many Germans have lost their courage and pride to shout out what they are.
But what is boiling under the surface is going to explode one day if politics will not act immediately.Very very serious situation.

EDIT: I forgot to mention that the german government is not really worried that under all these refugees might be also ISIS warriors or other sleepers. How crazy is that please! They're flooding in completely unregistered.No documents. They can make any bullshit story and our police say they have to believe them.Ridicolous!


Yep.

Good luck!




Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Tzupy on September 12, 2015, 01:51:14 PM
Merkel is doing Russia's bidding as usually, since she's being blackmailed with her Stasi file.
Many of the "refugees" have been sponsored by the Russian secret services, to inflate a crisis and shift European public attention from Ukraine to this.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: bryant.coleman on September 12, 2015, 05:17:46 PM
Merkel is doing Russia's bidding as usually, since she's being blackmailed with her Stasi file.
Many of the "refugees" have been sponsored by the Russian secret services, to inflate a crisis and shift European public attention from Ukraine to this.

STFU and don't mention Russia here. Your country kicked Gaddhafi and Saddham Hussein out of power in Libya and Iraq respectively, which led to the rise of the ISIS and triggered the refugee crisis. Turkey, Israel and Saudi Arabia, all being the most important allies of your country, have helped the ISIS to conquer much of Syria and Iraq. Your people have created this crisis. So try to solve it on your own without blaming Russia for everything.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Chef Ramsay on September 13, 2015, 03:44:11 AM
Merkel is doing Russia's bidding as usually, since she's being blackmailed with her Stasi file.
Many of the "refugees" have been sponsored by the Russian secret services, to inflate a crisis and shift European public attention from Ukraine to this.

STFU and don't mention Russia here. Your country kicked Gaddhafi and Saddham Hussein out of power in Libya and Iraq respectively, which led to the rise of the ISIS and triggered the refugee crisis. Turkey, Israel and Saudi Arabia, all being the most important allies of your country, have helped the ISIS to conquer much of Syria and Iraq. Your people have created this crisis. So try to solve it on your own without blaming Russia for everything.
No doubt about it but the US is mostly an oligarchy at this point and the average American is quite dumb and easily manipulated by the mainstream media. At least Rand has been trying to call all these assholes politicians out and help educate the boobs as to what has been going on w/ the foreign policy of this government. I didn't vote for the two jerks of each party last time, just wrote in Ron Paul.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Tzupy on September 13, 2015, 03:46:19 PM
Merkel is doing Russia's bidding as usually, since she's being blackmailed with her Stasi file.
Many of the "refugees" have been sponsored by the Russian secret services, to inflate a crisis and shift European public attention from Ukraine to this.

STFU and don't mention Russia here. Your country kicked Gaddhafi and Saddham Hussein out of power in Libya and Iraq respectively, which led to the rise of the ISIS and triggered the refugee crisis. Turkey, Israel and Saudi Arabia, all being the most important allies of your country, have helped the ISIS to conquer much of Syria and Iraq. Your people have created this crisis. So try to solve it on your own without blaming Russia for everything.

First, the USA is not my country, and surely Obummer is not my president.
The evidence invoked by eastern european intelligence analysts about Russian involvement in the massive increase in refugees is still scarce, but I'm taking it seriously.
For now, the interests of Russia and daesh converge, to create trouble in Europe, so the Ukraine crisis gets demoted to a secondary importance.
I'm sure many FSB agents have been told to strongly dismiss any Russian involvement in the human trafficking over the Mediteranean sea... ;)

That the actions in Libya, that led to Gaddhafi's fall, have been poorly thought, by not providing a long term ground presence, is also my opinion.
There was no military intervention in Syria against Assad, Russia's friend, on the contrary, the USA and NATO are bombing the terrorist organizations operating there.
That Turkey and Saudi Arabia (I doubt Israel can be blamed for this) have been helping those terrorists goes against the will of the USA and EU.
But the root of the problem comes from colonial times, the states and their borders of Iraq, Libya, Syria are not reflecting the divisions between ethnic and religious groups.
So keeping those groups together in one country can't be achieved by democratic means, they need a dicktator, the Soviet / Russian model fits them... ;D


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: bryant.coleman on September 13, 2015, 04:51:04 PM
The evidence invoked by eastern european intelligence analysts about Russian involvement in the massive increase in refugees is still scarce, but I'm taking it seriously.

Eastern European intelligence? WTF is that? Some stupid Polish scaremonger will claim that Russia is transporting "refugees" from Turkey to Europe without even setting foot in the Middle East, and you are going to believe that? Well.... this is not the first instance. I still remember the claim by the lunatic Polish president that it was the "Ukrainian" troops which liberated the Auschwitz.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfSDjh7Qf_4


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: blablahblah on September 13, 2015, 05:56:37 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Lebedev (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Lebedev)

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Alexander Yevgenievich Lebedev (Russian: Aлeкcáндp Eвгéньeвич Лéбeдeв; IPA: [ɐlʲɪˈksandr jɪvˈɡʲenʲjɪvʲɪtɕ ˈlʲebʲɪdʲɪf]; born 16 December 1959) is a Russian businessman, referred to as one of the Russian oligarchs.

In March 2012, he was listed by Forbes magazine as one of the richest Russians with an estimated fortune of $1.1 billion. However, his fortune has since declined, and he is no longer considered to be a billionaire.[1] He is part owner of the Russian newspaper Novaya Gazeta[2] and owner of four UK newspapers with son Evgeny Lebedev: the London Evening Standard, The Independent, The Independent on Sunday, and the i Newspaper.

I see... So it's the GERMANS panicking that their culture is getting destroyed by Muslims, and they're responsible for diverting attention away from the Ukraine crisis?


I still remember the claim by the lunatic Polish president that it was the "Ukrainian" troops which liberated the Auschwitz.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfSDjh7Qf_4
You're just butthurt. The Polish minister was probably factually correct in saying that most of the soldiers were of Ukrainian origin. Look on any map to find out where Auschwitz is located, and you will see that it would make no sense for more distant Red Army units to be involved, rather than the Ukrainian ones. In addition, the Russians have no right to be offended, simply because the USSR is not Russia. Or is it? Make up your mind! Furthermore, part of the USSR's official doctrine was to denounce nationalism. It seems that modern Russians who fondly reminisce about the USSR are actually suffering from a mental illness called Stockholm Syndrome.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome)

I hope you have access to those links. I heard that Wikipedia was censored in Russia for a while. ::)


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: bryant.coleman on September 13, 2015, 07:10:14 PM
You're just butthurt. The Polish minister was probably factually correct in saying that most of the soldiers were of Ukrainian origin. Look on any map to find out where Auschwitz is located, and you will see that it would make no sense for more distant Red Army units to be involved, rather than the Ukrainian ones.

Listen idiot, the unit which liberated Auschwitz (Voronezh Front) was more than 90% Russian, and there were hardly any Ukrainians in that unit. Most of the soldiers were from the Russian provinces of Voronezh, Lipetsk and Tambov. All the three commanders were ethnic Russian (General Nikolai F. Vatutin, Marshal Georgy K. Zhukov, and Marshal Ivan S. Konev).

That said, I don't care about shameless people such as you. Soviet Union should have let the Nazis conquer all of the Western Europe and North America. People such as you should have been gassed by the Nazis.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: GermanGiant on September 14, 2015, 12:00:01 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COyeKazUYAAf9u1.jpg

Source: https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/643062758611808256


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: blablahblah on September 15, 2015, 09:14:59 AM
You're just butthurt. The Polish minister was probably factually correct in saying that most of the soldiers were of Ukrainian origin. Look on any map to find out where Auschwitz is located, and you will see that it would make no sense for more distant Red Army units to be involved, rather than the Ukrainian ones.

Listen idiot, the unit which liberated Auschwitz (Voronezh Front) was more than 90% Russian, and there were hardly any Ukrainians in that unit. Most of the soldiers were from the Russian provinces of Voronezh, Lipetsk and Tambov. All the three commanders were ethnic Russian (General Nikolai F. Vatutin, Marshal Georgy K. Zhukov, and Marshal Ivan S. Konev).

That said, I don't care about shameless people such as you. Soviet Union should have let the Nazis conquer all of the Western Europe and North America. People such as you should have been gassed by the Nazis.

Quoted for posterity.

Please, tell us more about your heartfelt opinions on racial purity. Should the refugees be gassed to keep European bloodlines "clean"? Russian Neo-nazis (such as yourself) on the eastern borders of Europe, that's the real problem that Europe faces right now, not refugees. ::)


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Blawpaw on September 15, 2015, 06:58:39 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/saudi-arabia-offers-germany-200-mosques--one-for-every-100-refugees-who-arrived-last-weekend-10495082.html

During the past 7 days, some 20,000 Muslim "refugees" have arrived in Germany. The main issue which these refugees are facing right now is that they can't find enough mosques in Germany, to offer prayer services. And His Highness Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud has resolved this issue, by promising to build 200 new mosques in Germany, to offer services to these "refugees".

In the next 3 months, Germany is expected to receive up to 800,000 "refugees". So we can expect His Highness Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud to build 8,000 new mosques, for these poor "refugees".

And it must be remembered that in the past 3 years, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has granted refugee status to a total of nine refugees from Syria (out of a total of 13 applications). The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) has praised the efforts by the Kingdom, to provide safe shelter for the poor Syrian refugees.

Well, I do believe we need to support the refugees. But adopting this current method is like inviting the devil to your house. The refugees need help but they also need to abide by the Laws of the countries taking them.

It's like the Palestinization of Europe...


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: blablahblah on September 16, 2015, 08:31:57 AM
Well, I do believe we need to support the refugees. But adopting this current method is like inviting the devil to your house. The refugees need help but they also need to abide by the Laws of the countries taking them.

It's like the Palestinization of Europe...

I fail to see how it's even remotely similar to the post-WW2 fiasco of Jews getting sent to Palestine, turning it into modern-day Israel, and gradually oppressing the Palestinians more and more and adopting the same Nazi mentality that they escaped from.

Even if a million refugees are let into the EU, that's <<1% of the population. There's all this hysteria about a couple hundred Mosques maybe getting built. What about the TENS OF THOUSANDS of fucking Catholic churches polluting the European landscape??



Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: saddampbuh on September 16, 2015, 09:20:44 AM
I fail to see how it's even remotely similar to the post-WW2 fiasco of Jews getting sent to Palestine, turning it into modern-day Israel, and gradually oppressing the Palestinians more and more and adopting the same Nazi mentality that they escaped from.
it is very similar. the jewish invasion of palestine began more than a half century before ww2 with "harmless" pioneers going there to work and set up farms and businesses. by the time the palestine arabs figured out what was going on (t1920s) and agreed amongst themselves that the jewish infiltrators needed to be driven out (1930s) it was too late.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Snail2 on September 16, 2015, 09:45:34 AM
You're just butthurt. The Polish minister was probably factually correct in saying that most of the soldiers were of Ukrainian origin. Look on any map to find out where Auschwitz is located, and you will see that it would make no sense for more distant Red Army units to be involved, rather than the Ukrainian ones. In addition, the Russians have no right to be offended, simply because the USSR is not Russia. Or is it? Make up your mind! Furthermore, part of the USSR's official doctrine was to denounce nationalism. It seems that modern Russians who fondly reminisce about the USSR are actually suffering from a mental illness called Stockholm Syndrome.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome)

I hope you have access to those links. I heard that Wikipedia was censored in Russia for a while. ::)


Actually elements of the 100th Rifle Division (Vologda), 322nd Rifle Division (Gorky), 286th Rifle Division (Leningrad), and 107th Motor Rifle Division (Tambov) liberated Auschwitz. None of these units are Ukrainian.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Denker on September 16, 2015, 10:16:24 AM
Well, I do believe we need to support the refugees. But adopting this current method is like inviting the devil to your house. The refugees need help but they also need to abide by the Laws of the countries taking them.

It's like the Palestinization of Europe...

I fail to see how it's even remotely similar to the post-WW2 fiasco of Jews getting sent to Palestine, turning it into modern-day Israel, and gradually oppressing the Palestinians more and more and adopting the same Nazi mentality that they escaped from.

Even if a million refugees are let into the EU, that's <<1% of the population. There's all this hysteria about a couple hundred Mosques maybe getting built. What about the TENS OF THOUSANDS of fucking Catholic churches polluting the European landscape??



There will be more than 1 million alone just in Germany this year!!
Furthermore the EU especially the western coutries of it (France,England, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium) had been very very tolerant the last several decades. The people of other cultural circles are allowed to live their religions here, they have mosques etc etc etc.
However I would like to see one of the middle east countries how they react if 3-5 million european move there in a short period of time.Will they allow the europeans to live out their religion and culture?Would they allow hundreds of churches??
Think about it.
Enough is enough. The eastern EU countries got it completely right.
I'm german, living close to one of the largest cities here in which I'm working and studying. There are areas in some parts of the city where can not go because you get called potatoe. Not all of them, but a big chunk have problems to integrate. And this already the third generation of them. They have problems to accept german laws, rules and behaviour. They gave a fuck about women.They gave a fuck about me, sometimes they say I'm worth nothing because I'm a Non believer.
But as soon as I say they shall integrate, get a job I get called a NAZI!
Who is a racist here? Not me! I invite everyone to come as long as he fully integrates and does what every other normal german is doing. But they often can't. As I said not all, but a big part just gives a fuck.
And the sahe you see in France, in NL, in ENG. Multi culti does not work out if too many come in and buil parallel societies.
The way the EU is going now will mean the end of it.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Lauda on September 16, 2015, 03:09:38 PM
Is anyone even watching the livestream from Hungary right now (http://www.rt.com/on-air/hungarian-border-police-refugees/)? This is just vandalism and criminal. I would NEVER let anyone who participated in this incident into the country (ever). The big fence that they're building should be completed in 1 month. (http://www.rt.com/news/315085-hungary-fence-prisoners-refugees/)


However I would like to see one of the middle east countries how they react if 3-5 million european move there in a short period of time.Will they allow the europeans to live out their religion and culture?Would they allow hundreds of churches??
Enough is enough. The eastern EU countries got it completely right.
Correct. There is no way that they would allow that move, especially building hundreds of churches. I also agree that after a certain number, they should stop letting them in. It's just going to cause problems in Europe, nothing else.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: saddampbuh on September 16, 2015, 03:11:58 PM
the bastards are going through croatia now

better stream here, fuckers are throwing rocks at the police  and trying to break through

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PnapmSRO2I


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Nemo1024 on September 16, 2015, 05:19:13 PM
One thing that everyone seems to forget. Vaccination. This is an influx of unvaccinated people into Europe that is going on. Something similar happens in Ukraine, which stopped buying vaccines from Russia last year and now only 10-20% of children receive vaccines. Cases of Polio have already been reported.

So with all the Middle-East refugees coming into Europe. How many of them are vaccinated, what will be the proportion of the vaccinated population in the end? Can this lead to some potentially unpleasant epidemics?


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Nemo1024 on September 16, 2015, 05:24:24 PM
Merkel is doing Russia's bidding as usually, since she's being blackmailed with her Stasi file.
Many of the "refugees" have been sponsored by the Russian secret services, to inflate a crisis and shift European public attention from Ukraine to this.

The last thing Russia needs is a destabilised and weakened Europe. Last time it happened, 1941-1945 became a difficult period for the Russian people.

And Russia is screaming about the murder and hardship of people in Novorossia, not the the world is interested in hearing about it.

Don't put everything upside-down, Tzupy... Because what you and the like of you do, is try to frame Russia for everything and then see it it would stick. This strategy leads to such absurd hoaxes/accusations, as "Russia sending troops to Syria". So what? If it was true, would it then mean "bad" Russia fighting against "good" ISIS terrorists?

Also, what "Stasi file"? Tell me what is a simpler theory (let's remember Occam's razor here): some obscure "Stasi file" or a very palpable wire-tapping of Merkel's phone by USA and 174 American military bases on German soil?

PS: and while we are at it. Europe now pressures Russia that it must take in Middle-Eastern refugees, conveniently forgetting that Russia is already a host to over 800000 refugees from Ukraine. At least these refugees - unlike those from the Middle-East - speak the same language and carry the same culture and religion.

PSS: an interesting read:
http://www.rt.com/op-edge/315571-syria-russia-us-isis/
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Chris Bambery:
What gradually goes unreported as well is that Moscow has been attempting to open up dialogue between the Assad regime and the Western-backed opposition, the non-jihadist opposition. There have been some talks which Putin has encouraged. It was also revealed in the British media that three years ago Moscow proposed similar deals – a deal whereby potentially Assad could have stood down and a new coalition government involving a Baath party could have been formed, as a solution. The Americans and the British rejected that, because they believed they were on the verge of over throwing Assad. So what the Russian are doing here is rather more complex than what the Western media is also indicating. They are intervening, yes, they help Assad, but they are also trying to find a political solution to the civil war in Syria.
And on-topic from the same Op-Edge:
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RT: The US is now blaming the Assad regime for allowing extremists to get into Syria. Is that how you see it?

Gregory R. Copley: Not at all. In fact we’ve consistently reported from the ground, from inside sources there that the uprising against the Assad government was externally sponsored, predominantly by Turkey backed by Qatar, at that time by Saudi Arabia, and supported by the Obama White House. This is an externally generated war; there is no question about it. What is significant is that the continuation of this war to remove President [Bashar] Assad has generated the refugees. Most of them have flown through Turkey and are then being pushed into Europe by the Turkish government. So this is quite a significant strategic development, and Turkey is the cornerstone of this and yet it is supported by the US. The clear answer to resolving the war against Islamic State is to curtail Turkey’s support for the groups which make up Islamic State and for the IS’s direct contacts with the Turkish government itself.

Aaand something from Lada Ray:

Syria Spotlight From the Horse’s Mouth: Syrian President Bashar Assad – Exclusive Interview to the Russian Media
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/09/16/whats-really-going-on-in-syria-from-the-horses-mouth-syrian-president-bashar-assad-exclusive-interview-to-the-russian-media/


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Snail2 on September 17, 2015, 10:09:55 AM
One thing that everyone seems to forget. Vaccination. This is an influx of unvaccinated people into Europe that is going on. Something similar happens in Ukraine, which stopped buying vaccines from Russia last year and now only 10-20% of children receive vaccines. Cases of Polio have already been reported.

So with all the Middle-East refugees coming into Europe. How many of them are vaccinated, what will be the proportion of the vaccinated population in the end? Can this lead to some potentially unpleasant epidemics?

Syrians are actually pretty well vaccinated as they had a more or less good healthcare system before the civil war. Maybe kids born in the last few years could be an issue, but more importantly hepatitis is quite common over there.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Nemo1024 on September 17, 2015, 11:18:28 AM
One thing that everyone seems to forget. Vaccination. This is an influx of unvaccinated people into Europe that is going on. Something similar happens in Ukraine, which stopped buying vaccines from Russia last year and now only 10-20% of children receive vaccines. Cases of Polio have already been reported.

So with all the Middle-East refugees coming into Europe. How many of them are vaccinated, what will be the proportion of the vaccinated population in the end? Can this lead to some potentially unpleasant epidemics?

Syrians are actually pretty well vaccinated as they had a more or less good healthcare system before the civil war. Maybe kids born in the last few years could be an issue, but more importantly hepatitis is quite common over there.

Good point, Snail2, you are absolutely correct. Cuba, Syria, Lybia, Egypt all had pretty good health-care system (thanks to help from USSR) until "democracy" go imported.

The war in Syria is raging since 2011, so we can assume that children born in the terrorist-infested areas in 2012 and onwards will probably have missing vaccination (funny how it took 3-4 years for the refugee wave to reach Europe, by the way). Looks like the same situation as we see in Ukraine now, re vaccination.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: apollofire on September 17, 2015, 12:13:04 PM
Its very good news. But its not the permanent solution to the crisis. Syria battle is going for long. It has to end now. UN should be more active in resolving the issue.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Lauda on September 17, 2015, 12:18:00 PM
Its very good news. But its not the permanent solution to the crisis. Syria battle is going for long. It has to end now. UN should be more active in resolving the issue.
Did you actually even read anything that was written in the thread? Of course you did not.
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And it must be remembered that in the past 3 years, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has granted refugee status to a total of nine refugees from Syria (out of a total of 13 applications). The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) has praised the efforts by the Kingdom, to provide safe shelter for the poor Syrian refugees.
There is no solution. Building mosques is a waste of time and money. Obviously the crisis is escalating and we're shifting attention from Ukraine and Russia towards somewhere else. I would not let anyone illegal in. Just imagine how easy it is for terrorists to get inside marching in the middle of a big group of refugees. I am aware that they are some good people coming, but their numbers are small compared to the number of bad. I've both heard and seen how these guys tend to behave and it's worse than people think

Hungary should continue what they're doing, i.e. protecting their border. It looks like they're stuck at the Croatian border now. (http://www.rt.com/on-air/hungarian-border-police-refugees/)


Update: Small corrections.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: n2004al on September 17, 2015, 12:57:19 PM
European Refugee Crisis will be never resolved until in the countries from where come the refugees will be progress, growth and wealth. Always (with or without war) will be people which will ask e better life going out of their poor country. And the destination will be an European country.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Balthazar on September 17, 2015, 08:01:17 PM
https://cs540103.vk.me/c7004/v7004041/dec7/5wva6yruCGU.jpg


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Wilikon on September 18, 2015, 12:04:56 AM



Serbia: Water cannon unleashed on refugees at Hungarian border


Hungarian police used tear gas, pepper spray and water cannon to disperse refugees at the Horgos 2 border crossing, Wednesday, after migrants reportedly tried to pass through the border gates.


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bec_1442426872


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Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Lenore on September 18, 2015, 12:51:47 AM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/saudi-arabia-offers-germany-200-mosques--one-for-every-100-refugees-who-arrived-last-weekend-10495082.html

During the past 7 days, some 20,000 Muslim "refugees" have arrived in Germany. The main issue which these refugees are facing right now is that they can't find enough mosques in Germany, to offer prayer services. And His Highness Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud has resolved this issue, by promising to build 200 new mosques in Germany, to offer services to these "refugees".

In the next 3 months, Germany is expected to receive up to 800,000 "refugees". So we can expect His Highness Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud to build 8,000 new mosques, for these poor "refugees".

And it must be remembered that in the past 3 years, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has granted refugee status to a total of nine refugees from Syria (out of a total of 13 applications). The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) has praised the efforts by the Kingdom, to provide safe shelter for the poor Syrian refugees.








Awesome pic.   Havent seen that cartoon in ages.

And yes yet more refugees headed to America as well.   Yaaaa!!!!! less jobs for us who need them.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Lenore on September 18, 2015, 12:55:23 AM
Its very good news. But its not the permanent solution to the crisis. Syria battle is going for long. It has to end now. UN should be more active in resolving the issue.
Did you actually even read anything that was written in the thread? Of course you did not.
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And it must be remembered that in the past 3 years, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has granted refugee status to a total of nine refugees from Syria (out of a total of 13 applications). The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) has praised the efforts by the Kingdom, to provide safe shelter for the poor Syrian refugees.
There is no solution. Building mosques is a waste of time and money. Obviously the crisis is escalating and we're shifting attention from Ukraine and Russia towards somewhere else. I would not anyone illegal in. Just imagine how easy it is for terrorists to get inside marching in the middle of a big group of refugees. I am aware that they are some good people coming, but their numbers are small compared to the number of bad. I've both heard and seen how these guys tend to behave and it's worse than people think

Hungary should continue what they're doing, i.e. protecting their border. It looks like they're stuck at the Croatian border now. (http://www.rt.com/on-air/hungarian-border-police-refugees/)

Posted a few mins ago.  Just read this.  I agree.  No matter where they go.  They could bring some bad with emm.  I am sure this will happen.  No one can tell who is good and who is bad.   Makes me wonder who all is coming to America.  We have enough terrorists already here.  Wouldnt take much or even be hard for them to head this way.  Once here.  Are welcomed by others just like them.

We should be protecting borders all countries should.  I can just see some of this being a huge mess.  That I am sure some will try to cover up as a F*** up like usual.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Gronthaing on September 18, 2015, 02:12:14 AM
I would not anyone illegal in. Just imagine how easy it is for terrorists to get inside marching in the middle of a big group of refugees.

Should we stop all flights too? And cars? Because terrorists have money for that you know? And fake documents, and contacts inside, etc. Walking all the way to europe is the stupidest way to get in.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: n2004al on September 18, 2015, 06:01:45 AM
I would not anyone illegal in. Just imagine how easy it is for terrorists to get inside marching in the middle of a big group of refugees.

Should we stop all flights too? And cars? Because terrorists have money for that you know? And fake documents, and contacts inside, etc. Walking all the way to europe is the stupidest way to get in.


Agree. This is not the way to stop them I think. They must be fighted in their country of origin in a organised way by a coalition of every civilized country. Only in this way the problems maybe cannot resolved forever but will relented to much and we will not see more such biblical people which want to leave their country of origin.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Balthazar on September 18, 2015, 06:51:52 AM
http://photo.tvigle.ru/resource/rf/prg/e/1/e15feded8b825ec2e3f0a366383dd59e/video/77ad92c9a59629a7b5b1133d09fe5b73/m16x9.jpg


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Lauda on September 18, 2015, 09:07:26 AM
Posted a few mins ago.  Just read this.  I agree.  No matter where they go.  They could bring some bad with emm.  I am sure this will happen.  No one can tell who is good and who is bad.   Makes me wonder who all is coming to America.  We have enough terrorists already here.  Wouldnt take much or even be hard for them to head this way.  Once here.  Are welcomed by others just like them.

We should be protecting borders all countries should.  I can just see some of this being a huge mess.  That I am sure some will try to cover up as a F*** up like usual.
Exactly. Borders are there for a reason. Now when somebody is actually trying to protect their border (e.g. Hungary) everyone goes crazy. The poll on rt.com shows that 52% think that the solution is: Stop taking in migrants, send back any newcomers. Even if each country agrees to take in refugees they should only take a small and fixed number, else problems will start to arise. I do not feel like paying a 50% income tax to finance the life of a million random asylum seekers. If Saudi Arabia can refuse those refugees, then so can we.

Should we stop all flights too? And cars? Because terrorists have money for that you know? And fake documents, and contacts inside, etc. Walking all the way to Europe is the stupidest way to get in.
This does not make any sense at all. I said illegal. If I have to go through border control and sometimes get all of my things searched, then so does everyone else. If you had only encountered a small group of men, you would instantly change your view. I've seen them throw away food that was given to them from kind people. I will not comment this further.


What Germany is doing is a suicide mission. Slovenia just officially stated that they will accommodate 5000 of them and no more than that. Croatia is preparing to close its border as well.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Buffer Overflow on September 18, 2015, 09:46:17 AM
Merkel has invited the whole of Africa over to Europe. Europe cannot absorb that many people, but they will still come.
The HAVE NOTS will attempt to take from the HAVES what they have.

No country is going to allow itself to be destoryed. At some point they will have no choice but to start firing the guns.....


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: n2004al on September 18, 2015, 09:57:50 AM
Merkel has invited the whole of Africa over to Europe. Europe cannot absorb that many people, but they will still come.
The HAVE NOTS will attempt to take from the HAVES what they have.

No country is going to allow itself to be destoryed. At some point they will have no choice but to start firing the guns.....


I would see you in the place of that poor people. Maybe you are right that Europe will suffer their accommodation but you must understand that this is a forced move. Europe is obligated to act in this way. They cannot leave that people die. It is against human nature.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Buffer Overflow on September 18, 2015, 10:00:59 AM
Merkel has invited the whole of Africa over to Europe. Europe cannot absorb that many people, but they will still come.
The HAVE NOTS will attempt to take from the HAVES what they have.

No country is going to allow itself to be destoryed. At some point they will have no choice but to start firing the guns.....


I would see you in the place of that poor people. Maybe you are right that Europe will suffer their accommodation but you must understand that this is a forced move. Europe is obligated to act in this way. They cannot leave that people die. It is against human nature.

The fact remains Europe cannot absorb Africa without being destroyed. Simple as that. Just telling you the way it is.

If the governments won't do anything, then eventually the civilians will do something about it.

I don't think people really understand what a nuclear ticking timebomb this all is.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: n2004al on September 18, 2015, 10:11:38 AM
Merkel has invited the whole of Africa over to Europe. Europe cannot absorb that many people, but they will still come.
The HAVE NOTS will attempt to take from the HAVES what they have.

No country is going to allow itself to be destoryed. At some point they will have no choice but to start firing the guns.....


I would see you in the place of that poor people. Maybe you are right that Europe will suffer their accommodation but you must understand that this is a forced move. Europe is obligated to act in this way. They cannot leave that people die. It is against human nature.

The fact remains Europe cannot absorb Africa without being destroyed. Simple as that. Just telling you the way it is.

If the governments won't do anything, then eventually the civilians will do something about it.

I don't think people really understand what a nuclear ticking timebomb this all is.


That's correct. But it is not Africa that is coming. There are some poor people from there (are not few but are not all Africa). I agree that Europe must act but not with gun but helping Africa growing and maintain itself. For this behavior (for not acting in this direction) Europe is to be criticized. And not only Europe but even USA and all the civilized countries who has potential to help in this.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: darkangel11 on September 18, 2015, 12:18:01 PM
Don't forget that many EU countries are in economical crisis and it's not the time to be spending money on some refugees. Look what's going on in Hungary. Those "poor refugees" are storming the borders and attacking the police.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: n2004al on September 18, 2015, 12:28:08 PM
Don't forget that many EU countries are in economical crisis and it's not the time to be spending money on some refugees. Look what's going on in Hungary. Those "poor refugees" are storming the borders and attacking the police.

I don't approve this and nor justify them but I understand their actions. Are exasperated and have lost the mind. To not forget that within them might be aggressive and wrongdoer people that must punished.

About the lack of money always so has been and always so will be. But I think that if wanted the money are and can be founded. The problem is to be used in the right way.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: darkangel11 on September 18, 2015, 12:40:28 PM
Don't forget that many EU countries are in economical crisis and it's not the time to be spending money on some refugees. Look what's going on in Hungary. Those "poor refugees" are storming the borders and attacking the police.

I don't approve this and nor justify them but I understand their actions. Are exasperated and have lost the mind. To not forget that within them might be aggressive and wrongdoer people that must punished.

About the lack of money always so has been and always so will be. But I think that if wanted the money are and can be founded. The problem is to be used in the right way.

And we are going back to the most essential problem: If you don't have the money go and earn it through work. Don't expect others to give it for free. Those refugees are running to Germany and other countries to live on benefits. They don't want to work they want to sustain themselves for free and think it's their promised land. I read that the money they'll be getting from social services in EU in their first year of living there would be enough to sustain them for 8 years in Syria.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: n2004al on September 18, 2015, 12:45:24 PM
Don't forget that many EU countries are in economical crisis and it's not the time to be spending money on some refugees. Look what's going on in Hungary. Those "poor refugees" are storming the borders and attacking the police.

I don't approve this and nor justify them but I understand their actions. Are exasperated and have lost the mind. To not forget that within them might be aggressive and wrongdoer people that must punished.

About the lack of money always so has been and always so will be. But I think that if wanted the money are and can be founded. The problem is to be used in the right way.

And we are going back to the most essential problem: If you don't have the money go and earn it through work. Don't expect others to give it for free. Those refugees are running to Germany and other countries to live on benefits. They don't want to work they want to sustain themselves for free and think it's their promised land. I read that the money they'll be getting from social services in EU in their first year of living there would be enough to sustain them for 8 years in Syria.

First time I hear about this. Sure that they MUST work to live. If not back to their country. This must be the rule. the other things don't count. But I don't think that those you told are exactly in that way. No one will leave those without working and living with social services. I'm sure about this. Notably Germany which is well known for its severe and seriousness nature about the work.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: darkangel11 on September 18, 2015, 01:04:19 PM
Don't forget that many EU countries are in economical crisis and it's not the time to be spending money on some refugees. Look what's going on in Hungary. Those "poor refugees" are storming the borders and attacking the police.

I don't approve this and nor justify them but I understand their actions. Are exasperated and have lost the mind. To not forget that within them might be aggressive and wrongdoer people that must punished.

About the lack of money always so has been and always so will be. But I think that if wanted the money are and can be founded. The problem is to be used in the right way.

And we are going back to the most essential problem: If you don't have the money go and earn it through work. Don't expect others to give it for free. Those refugees are running to Germany and other countries to live on benefits. They don't want to work they want to sustain themselves for free and think it's their promised land. I read that the money they'll be getting from social services in EU in their first year of living there would be enough to sustain them for 8 years in Syria.

First time I hear about this. Sure that they MUST work to live. If not back to their country. This must be the rule. the other things don't count. But I don't think that those you told are exactly in that way. No one will leave those without working and living with social services. I'm sure about this. Notably Germany which is well known for its severe and seriousness nature about the work.

You have much faith in the system.
It works like this: they take 100 immigrants, pay all of them a couple hundred euros a month. If 50 out of those 100 learn the language and get a job i'd be amazed. Most will find out that social services will pay them for every kid they have more than they would earn in their own country so they will make more children and live happily ever after with free medical care food and roof over their heads. The other more ambitious types will turn to crime to get more money.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: n2004al on September 18, 2015, 01:09:25 PM
Don't forget that many EU countries are in economical crisis and it's not the time to be spending money on some refugees. Look what's going on in Hungary. Those "poor refugees" are storming the borders and attacking the police.

I don't approve this and nor justify them but I understand their actions. Are exasperated and have lost the mind. To not forget that within them might be aggressive and wrongdoer people that must punished.

About the lack of money always so has been and always so will be. But I think that if wanted the money are and can be founded. The problem is to be used in the right way.

And we are going back to the most essential problem: If you don't have the money go and earn it through work. Don't expect others to give it for free. Those refugees are running to Germany and other countries to live on benefits. They don't want to work they want to sustain themselves for free and think it's their promised land. I read that the money they'll be getting from social services in EU in their first year of living there would be enough to sustain them for 8 years in Syria.

First time I hear about this. Sure that they MUST work to live. If not back to their country. This must be the rule. the other things don't count. But I don't think that those you told are exactly in that way. No one will leave those without working and living with social services. I'm sure about this. Notably Germany which is well known for its severe and seriousness nature about the work.

You have much faith in the system.
It works like this: they take 100 immigrants, pay all of them a couple hundred euros a month. If 50 out of those 100 learn the language and get a job i'd be amazed. Most will find out that social services will pay them for every kid they have more than they would earn in their own country so they will make more children and live happily ever after with free medical care food and roof over their heads. The other more ambitious types will turn to crime to get more money.

I know all this and this is the system. They will live like Germans. It is their fortune. This is for sure. But I can't accept that will work only 50. They will work almost all. Very few will remain without work. And for they will be found other way to be useful for the community. I told you. Have to do with Germans.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Wilikon on September 18, 2015, 03:15:22 PM



35 MILLION migrants heading to Europe, says Hungary as it builds second fence

SHOCK estimates predict up to 35 MILLION refugees could head for Europe due to hugely unstable situations across the world.








The huge figure was revealed today by Hungary's minister for foreign affairs and trade Peter Szijjártó.

Speaking as the country begins work on its second fence to stop migrants heading across its border he predicted the current crisis will continue for years.

Mr Szijjártó told Hungarian Times: "The name of the fence is 'Temporary Security Border Fence' but I think there is no question that in this case temporary means years.

"It's a self delusion to call this situation a migration crisis; it is a massive migration of nations, with inexhaustible reserves.

"I don't think that the analysis results, stating that 30-35 million people out there could possibly become migrants, would be an exaggeration.

"Libya, Yemen, Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan are all countries with a huge population and an extremely unstable situation."

The Hungarian government also defended itself from criticism over its fences.

The first barrier was put up at its border with Serbia but, after migrants changed their route, they have now begun erecting a 41 kilometre fence at Croatia.

Migrants look to break through to Hungary as that sees them enter the European Union's Schengen Zone which offers free movement between member countries.

He said: "The recent international political decisions created an unstable situation around Europe that makes sure that the amount of people won't decrease.

"This is why it's extremely important to protect our borders.

"This issue wasn't this important until now, so the European Union neglected it a little bit.

"It became clear that - though its the border of Schengen - Greece couldn't protect the border of the European Union.

"The Hungarian/Serbian border is another border of Schengen. If we want to follow the orders of Schengen, we have to build a physical obstruction, because this 175 km long area is quite easy to cross.

"The European Union just realised what the Schengen border means.

"If we want to keep the freedom of movement in the European Union, we have to protect the outer borders.''



http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/606211/35-MILLION-migrants-Europe-Hungary-builds-second-fence






Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: bryant.coleman on September 18, 2015, 04:55:26 PM
^^^^ Many might think that this 35 million figure is a huge exaggeration. But IMO, it sounds like an underestimation. Syria is having a population of around 25 million, and most of them are living in the government controlled area. The present situation is like 60% of the population in areas controlled by Assad, 35% in ISIS land, and 5% living under the FSA. As the Assad government collapse under the onslaught of the ISIS, the mostly secular population will have no other option, but to move to Europe. The same is going to happen in Iraq and Libya.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Lenore on September 18, 2015, 06:13:38 PM
Posted a few mins ago.  Just read this.  I agree.  No matter where they go.  They could bring some bad with emm.  I am sure this will happen.  No one can tell who is good and who is bad.   Makes me wonder who all is coming to America.  We have enough terrorists already here.  Wouldnt take much or even be hard for them to head this way.  Once here.  Are welcomed by others just like them.

We should be protecting borders all countries should.  I can just see some of this being a huge mess.  That I am sure some will try to cover up as a F*** up like usual.
Exactly. Borders are there for a reason. Now when somebody is actually trying to protect their border (e.g. Hungary) everyone goes crazy. The poll on rt.com shows that 52% think that the solution is: Stop taking in migrants, send back any newcomers. Even if each country agrees to take in refugees they should only take a small and fixed number, else problems will start to arise. I do not feel like paying a 50% income tax to finance the life of a million random asylum seekers. If Saudi Arabia can refuse those refugees, then so can we.

Should we stop all flights too? And cars? Because terrorists have money for that you know? And fake documents, and contacts inside, etc. Walking all the way to Europe is the stupidest way to get in.
This does not make any sense at all. I said illegal. If I have to go through border control and sometimes get all of my things searched, then so does everyone else. If you had only encountered a small group of men, you would instantly change your view. I've seen them throw away food that was given to them from kind people. I will not comment this further.


What Germany is doing is a suicide mission. Slovenia just officially stated that they will accommodate 5000 of them and no more than that. Croatia is preparing to close its border as well.

Exactly.   I think we have enough of our own issues.  People going hungry, dieing, and having  a hard time making it.  Some can get help while others cant.  But now we are going to help out people that are not americans while americans themselves need help.

We should close our borders.  Not let anyone in.  We have our own troubles.  I can see this turning out to be a disaster later down the road.  Something will come of it.  We want to help emm.  Send a few planes over there and hydrogenize them bastards.  Problem solved. Shink the issues before they get bigger.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Lauda on September 18, 2015, 06:22:15 PM
Exactly.   I think we have enough of our own issues.  People going hungry, dieing, and having  a hard time making it.  Some can get help while others cant.  But now we are going to help out people that are not americans while americans themselves need help.

We should close our borders.  Not let anyone in.  We have our own troubles.  I can see this turning out to be a disaster later down the road.  Something will come of it.  We want to help emm.  Send a few planes over there and hydrogenize them bastards.  Problem solved. Shink the issues before they get bigger.
Well that might be a drastic measure, but I do understand where this is coming from. Instead of publicly calling out countries that are trying to fight this problem (Hungary), the other countries should help them. Honestly, Europe is not as perfect as people think. If we get anywhere near that estimate of 35 million people, then EU will start collapsing. The EU has about ~500m people. You can't expect a sudden influx of 5+% of refugees to be sustainable even short term.
Honestly I'm starting to question the sanity and intelligence of people that are working hard to be the "welcoming committee" for the refugees. There aren't enough jobs or funds as it is.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Lenore on September 18, 2015, 07:48:36 PM
Exactly.   I think we have enough of our own issues.  People going hungry, dieing, and having  a hard time making it.  Some can get help while others cant.  But now we are going to help out people that are not americans while americans themselves need help.

We should close our borders.  Not let anyone in.  We have our own troubles.  I can see this turning out to be a disaster later down the road.  Something will come of it.  We want to help emm.  Send a few planes over there and hydrogenize them bastards.  Problem solved. Shink the issues before they get bigger.
Well that might be a drastic measure, but I do understand where this is coming from. Instead of publicly calling out countries that are trying to fight this problem (Hungary), the other countries should help them. Honestly, Europe is not as perfect as people think. If we get anywhere near that estimate of 35 million people, then EU will start collapsing. The EU has about ~500m people. You can't expect a sudden influx of 5+% of refugees to be sustainable even short term.
Honestly I'm starting to question the sanity and intelligence of people that are working hard to be the "welcoming committee" for the refugees. There aren't enough jobs or funds as it is.

You are exactly right.   It was a little over the top.  But if all the allies and super powers could determine exactly what to do that would solve the problem.  They need to come up with a solution.  People need instead of opening welcome mats should contribute to a resolution.  As moving people from one area to another is not a solution but in my opinion another problem waiting to happen.  And shows that the country that they live in needs help.  They need to do something with what they have in there area.  Stop Isis and them from taking control.  Which in long term is what will happen when they have no resistance.  Just makes it easier to conquer if that is what they are trying to do.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Buffer Overflow on September 18, 2015, 08:08:29 PM
When the migrants finally get to their 'destination', Germany I guess. I wonder what's going to happen when they find out the streets aren't paved with gold?
They've already given us a full demonstration earlier this week of how violent and dangerous they become when they don't get their own way.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Lenore on September 18, 2015, 08:13:41 PM
When the migrants finally get to their 'destination', Germany I guess. I wonder what's going to happen when they find out the streets aren't paved with gold?
They've already given us a full demonstration earlier this week of how violent and dangerous they become when they don't get their own way.


Sounds like someone will find out soon enough.  But is very true.  Guessing its in there nature.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: ThePrinceofTea on September 18, 2015, 09:33:27 PM
When the migrants finally get to their 'destination', Germany I guess. I wonder what's going to happen when they find out the streets aren't paved with gold?
They've already given us a full demonstration earlier this week of how violent and dangerous they become when they don't get their own way.


Sounds like someone will find out soon enough.  But is very true.  Guessing its in there nature.

once the 2 girls are out, the def and the eastern one, a few idiots gone, old blueprint can be upgraded to fully use the wonderful benefits of digitization... will tattoos or chips be necessary (iris scanner) in case of barbarian attitude? I don't think so, the long settled turks will not let the new comers fuck their homes... the darkside will not be necessary there.

but in case, beer + previn, they will see... 


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Lauda on September 19, 2015, 09:58:34 AM
You are exactly right.   It was a little over the top.  But if all the allies and super powers could determine exactly what to do that would solve the problem.  They need to come up with a solution.  People need instead of opening welcome mats should contribute to a resolution.  As moving people from one area to another is not a solution but in my opinion another problem waiting to happen.  And shows that the country that they live in needs help.  They need to do something with what they have in there area.  Stop Isis and them from taking control.  Which in long term is what will happen when they have no resistance.  Just makes it easier to conquer if that is what they are trying to do.
I concur. Moving them does not really work at a solution at all. It seems like buying time until someone comes up with a solution. However, what if the refugees start rebelling as a group and causing problems such as the ones at the border of Hungary? Essentially until someone starts shooting, people are allowing themselves too much freedom IMO. These countries are really tolerant, probably a bit too much.
I wonder what would happen if a group of people did similar stuff in China or North Korea.

When the migrants finally get to their 'destination', Germany I guess. I wonder what's going to happen when they find out the streets aren't paved with gold?
They've already given us a full demonstration earlier this week of how violent and dangerous they become when they don't get their own way.

Sounds like someone will find out soon enough.  But is very true.  Guessing its in there nature.
Different environments raise people with different personalities. They are allowing themselves to be led by nature (vandalism and whatnot) and that is trait of animals, not humans.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: bryant.coleman on September 19, 2015, 12:40:46 PM
Well that might be a drastic measure, but I do understand where this is coming from. Instead of publicly calling out countries that are trying to fight this problem (Hungary), the other countries should help them. Honestly, Europe is not as perfect as people think. If we get anywhere near that estimate of 35 million people, then EU will start collapsing. The EU has about ~500m people. You can't expect a sudden influx of 5+% of refugees to be sustainable even short term.
Honestly I'm starting to question the sanity and intelligence of people that are working hard to be the "welcoming committee" for the refugees. There aren't enough jobs or funds as it is.

The 35 million are not going to be distributed in to the current population of 500 million. The refugees are not interested in countries such as Poland, Romania, and Bulgaria, where the living standards are not good. They are only interested in a select few countries such as England, Germany, France, Sweden, Finland, Norway, Netherlands, Austria, Ireland.etc. So this 35 million is going to be distributed over 200 million people.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Lenore on September 19, 2015, 03:26:28 PM
You are exactly right.   It was a little over the top.  But if all the allies and super powers could determine exactly what to do that would solve the problem.  They need to come up with a solution.  People need instead of opening welcome mats should contribute to a resolution.  As moving people from one area to another is not a solution but in my opinion another problem waiting to happen.  And shows that the country that they live in needs help.  They need to do something with what they have in there area.  Stop Isis and them from taking control.  Which in long term is what will happen when they have no resistance.  Just makes it easier to conquer if that is what they are trying to do.
I concur. Moving them does not really work at a solution at all. It seems like buying time until someone comes up with a solution. However, what if the refugees start rebelling as a group and causing problems such as the ones at the border of Hungary? Essentially until someone starts shooting, people are allowing themselves too much freedom IMO. These countries are really tolerant, probably a bit too much.
I wonder what would happen if a group of people did similar stuff in China or North Korea.

They would prolly kill em if not turn them to slaves and make then work to build stuff for america.  As everything is made in China nowadays.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Nemo1024 on September 19, 2015, 06:26:14 PM
"USA is afraid on behalf of ISIS" is the title of the following long analytical atricle-interview in "Free Press":

http://svpressa.ru/war21/article/131877/

It is also the only explanation for the row of statements and signals given by the US State Dep. The latest being:

"Russia's refusal to participate in the international coalition for fighting with ISIS and decision to act on their own will be treated by the US administration as support for (the legitimate head of the Syrian state) Bashar Asad and will lead to further isolation of Russia"

So. Anyone with more than one brain cell will interpret the above as follows: "Russia, lay off the (d)ISIS that we created to displace Asad and don't you dare try annihilating ISIS before this NGO fulfils its role".

(And it was Bill Clinton, who called ISIS for NGO in one of his many Freudian slips: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv2l6HYNJhA ; While Obama called for the most successful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcGz1a76Clk)

For the record, Russia many times tried to form a UN-sanctioned international coalition to fight ISIS, but such coalition assumed participation of the legitimate Syrian government, which was vetoed by the US.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Gronthaing on September 20, 2015, 06:36:54 AM
Should we stop all flights too? And cars? Because terrorists have money for that you know? And fake documents, and contacts inside, etc. Walking all the way to Europe is the stupidest way to get in.
This does not make any sense at all. I said illegal. If I have to go through border control and sometimes get all of my things searched, then so does everyone else.

Are you expecting them to bring bazookas in their backpacks or something? Like I said there are many ways to enter Europe. Legally and illegally. This is just one more. And why waste time and go through all the risks of the journey if there are already European citizens inside that are willing to participate in terror attacks? The attacks done so far were all from citizens not outsiders for example. Weapons aren't hard to find and they don't need to send in war veterans or something. The video that isis put out was to create fear and more instability. And it looks like it's working well.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: worhiper_-_ on September 20, 2015, 06:56:21 AM
I saw a post on reddit with a German article suggesting that the Interior minister their is now favoring a cap on refugees and suggested outside camps on Africa. Someone posted a translation (https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/3lkhpu/german_interior_minister_now_favors_cap_on/cv72lgi), but I havent seen this reported in English yet.

Edit: I should mention that Capms being built in africa was covered by the Guardian.

European governments are aiming to deny the right of asylum to innumerable refugees by funding and building camps for them in Africa and elsewhere outside the European Union.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/14/refugee-crisis-eu-governments-set-to-back-new-internment-camps


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Snorek on September 20, 2015, 09:16:29 AM
I will tell you how to deal with this crisis. Close the borders now. Announce that Europe is at its limit and won't accept any more refugees.
Everyone who will reach borders of EU from now on will be deported to their homelands. - This is the correct way of dealing with this.
Europe CANNOT accept more and more of refugees because if they accept 1.000 now there will be 3.000 next month and 1.00000 in 6 months.
It will be never ending stream of emigrants from now on, just because they think EU is so great that they can live there for free.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: worhiper_-_ on September 20, 2015, 09:45:57 AM
I will tell you how to deal with this crisis. Close the borders now. Announce that Europe is at its limit and won't accept any more refugees.
Everyone who will reach borders of EU from now on will be deported to their homelands. - This is the correct way of dealing with this.
Europe CANNOT accept more and more of refugees because if they accept 1.000 now there will be 3.000 next month and 1.00000 in 6 months.
It will be never ending stream of emigrants from now on, just because they think EU is so great that they can live there for free.

Funny thing is that it's not just refugees. They're is a continuous influx of west Africa immigrants. Clearly they're taking advantage of the situation. They have sums from 2k USD to 5k USD at their disposal to be smuggled from their place to Europe before they sink their boats to hide evidence and get a chance to apply for asylum along with actual refugees.


EU statisticians claim only 1 in 5 migrants are from Syria

http://metro.co.uk/2015/09/19/eu-statisticians-claim-only-1-in-5-migrants-are-from-syria-5398412/


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Lauda on September 20, 2015, 10:02:01 AM
Are you expecting them to bring bazookas in their backpacks or something? Like I said there are many ways to enter Europe. Legally and illegally. This is just one more. And why waste time and go through all the risks of the journey if there are already European citizens inside that are willing to participate in terror attacks? The attacks done so far were all from citizens not outsiders for example. Weapons aren't hard to find and they don't need to send in war veterans or something. The video that isis put out was to create fear and more instability. And it looks like it's working well.
Have you encountered any of these people in person? If not, then you should quit talking like you know them (I'm not generalizing; I'm talking about the bad percentage). They nature is quite different from ours. Getting weapons is easier than getting people to participate in terrorism. If it was as easy as you, there would be terrorist attacks every day.

The 35 million are not going to be distributed in to the current population of 500 million. The refugees are not interested in countries such as Poland, Romania, and Bulgaria, where the living standards are not good. They are only interested in a select few countries such as England, Germany, France, Sweden, Finland, Norway, Netherlands, Austria, Ireland.etc. So this 35 million is going to be distributed over 200 million people.
You're right about this. There are countries in which the situation isn't really well either. If those 35 million people come to only a select few countries then it is going to be very problematic for them as well.

Funny thing is that it's not just refugees. They're is a continuous influx of west Africa immigrants. Clearly they're taking advantage of the situation. They have sums from 2k USD to 5k USD at their disposal to be smuggled from their place to Europe before they sink their boats to hide evidence and get a chance to apply for asylum along with actual refugees.
Honestly, it doesn't really matter to me who is coming or from where (in these groups). Europe can not handle such a huge influx of asylum seekers, despite of what some think. Interestingly enough the attention from Greece has completely shifted towards the refugee crisis. We'll probably hear from Greece again once their next payment comes up.  ::)


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: st4nl3y on September 20, 2015, 10:12:50 AM
Sorry immigrants, no mosques in Poland.. only machetes  ;D ;D




Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: bryant.coleman on September 20, 2015, 11:42:13 AM
Sorry immigrants, no mosques in Poland.. only machetes  ;D ;D

And here is the solution:

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/09/10/report-saudis-to-build-200-mosques-for-migrants-in-germany/

Lame excuses such as the lack of mosques are not going to stop the "refugees" from migrating to Poland. If these 35 million migrants arrive in the European Union, at least 2,500,000 to 3,000,000 will end up in Poland.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: st4nl3y on September 20, 2015, 04:52:06 PM
Sorry immigrants, no mosques in Poland.. only machetes  ;D ;D

And here is the solution:

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/09/10/report-saudis-to-build-200-mosques-for-migrants-in-germany/

Lame excuses such as the lack of mosques are not going to stop the "refugees" from migrating to Poland. If these 35 million migrants arrive in the European Union, at least 2,500,000 to 3,000,000 will end up in Poland.

I see you are totally clueless on the subject. First, Poland is not Germany! Second, Polish government agreed to take 10,000 immigrants, it was 2,000 but changed to 10,000 just recently and will not take any 'commercial immigrants' permanently, ONLY those who can prove they are running away from death. Other than that Poland will just be a temporary stay. Third, those people don't even want to go there because all Poland can offer is living in poverty and everyday harassment. And last, even after all this they still decide to come.. well,..


https://i.imgur.com/YntnL1r.jpg


..Poland is waiting!


PS. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNbwv_BXs2I


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Schleicher on September 20, 2015, 05:14:30 PM
Funny thing is that it's not just refugees. They're is a continuous influx of west Africa immigrants. Clearly they're taking advantage of the situation. They have sums from 2k USD to 5k USD at their disposal to be smuggled from their place to Europe before they sink their boats to hide evidence and get a chance to apply for asylum along with actual refugees.


EU statisticians claim only 1 in 5 migrants are from Syria

http://metro.co.uk/2015/09/19/eu-statisticians-claim-only-1-in-5-migrants-are-from-syria-5398412/
West africa?
No, not as many as you might think.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/34410241/refugees.jpg (http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documents/2995521/6996925/3-18092015-BP-EN.pdf/b0377f79-f06d-4263-aa5b-cc9b4f6a838f)


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: bryant.coleman on September 20, 2015, 06:10:43 PM
I see you are totally clueless on the subject. First, Poland is not Germany! Second, Polish government agreed to take 10,000 immigrants, it was 2,000 but changed to 10,000 just recently and will not take any 'commercial immigrants' permanently, ONLY those who can prove they are running away from death. Other than that Poland will just be a temporary stay. Third, those people don't even want to go there because all Poland can offer is living in poverty and everyday harassment. And last, even after all this they still decide to come.. well,..

Poland doesn't have the freedom to decide on the number of "refugees" it is going to resettle. The European Union will decide on the numbers, and probably, they are going to distribute the refugees according to the country's population. Poland's population is around 8% of that of the EU, and therefore they will be forced to take in 8% of all the migrants.

And imagine this:

https://i.imgur.com/YntnL1r.jpg Vs https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8b/Islamic_State_(IS)_insurgents,_Anbar_Province,_Iraq.jpg


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: ThePrinceofTea on September 20, 2015, 06:21:30 PM
I see you are totally clueless on the subject. First, Poland is not Germany! Second, Polish government agreed to take 10,000 immigrants, it was 2,000 but changed to 10,000 just recently and will not take any 'commercial immigrants' permanently, ONLY those who can prove they are running away from death. Other than that Poland will just be a temporary stay. Third, those people don't even want to go there because all Poland can offer is living in poverty and everyday harassment. And last, even after all this they still decide to come.. well,..

Poland doesn't have the freedom to decide on the number of "refugees" it is going to resettle. The European Union will decide on the numbers, and probably, they are going to distribute the refugees according to the country's population. Poland's population is around 8% of that of the EU, and therefore they will be forced to take in 8% of all the migrants.

And imagine this:

https://i.imgur.com/YntnL1r.jpg Vs https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8b/Islamic_State_(IS)_insurgents,_Anbar_Province,_Iraq.jpg

the 4th Reich in all it's might...

then about your 2 pictures, which by the way I find really amusing... I think that the people on the left have no idea of their opponents...

1. they don't know the concept of martyrdom.
2. they don't wear suicide jacket.
3. they aren't part of a thousand years war.
4. they don't have real life training.

but again it's amusing, thank you for sharing...


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Balthazar on September 21, 2015, 12:34:30 AM
http://www.paulickreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/zombies.jpg

Refugees are coming.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: st4nl3y on September 21, 2015, 10:06:45 AM
I see you are totally clueless on the subject. First, Poland is not Germany! Second, Polish government agreed to take 10,000 immigrants, it was 2,000 but changed to 10,000 just recently and will not take any 'commercial immigrants' permanently, ONLY those who can prove they are running away from death. Other than that Poland will just be a temporary stay. Third, those people don't even want to go there because all Poland can offer is living in poverty and everyday harassment. And last, even after all this they still decide to come.. well,..

Poland doesn't have the freedom to decide on the number of "refugees" it is going to resettle. The European Union will decide on the numbers, and probably, they are going to distribute the refugees according to the country's population. Poland's population is around 8% of that of the EU, and therefore they will be forced to take in 8% of all the migrants.

And imagine this:

https://i.imgur.com/YntnL1r.jpg Vs https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8b/Islamic_State_(IS)_insurgents,_Anbar_Province,_Iraq.jpg


Another clueless post of yours. European Commission just recently decided Poland will take 9287 people and believe me, Polish authorities will take every measure to make sure they are not economic immigrants, only people running away from death, literally. Unfortunately Poles are very racist. That's one of the reasons I don't live there. If you followed this closer you would know, your probable guesses don't work here. Even if they all bring their families it's not a problem. 15,000 fans were recently seen on Legia match and that's just one club. Read about Lech Poznan or Cracovia.
Comparing polish hooligans with Islamic insurgents in Iraq is just stupid. Don't you worry polish hooligans are worst in EU, kids are stabbing and killing each other on daily basis, as far as I know they are planning to diverse all that hate towards immigrants. They are not scared of corrupted police with live shotguns why would they be afraid of immigrants? Freedom doesn't exist any more, in any country.           


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: worhiper_-_ on September 21, 2015, 10:36:50 AM
Funny thing is that it's not just refugees. They're is a continuous influx of west Africa immigrants. Clearly they're taking advantage of the situation. They have sums from 2k USD to 5k USD at their disposal to be smuggled from their place to Europe before they sink their boats to hide evidence and get a chance to apply for asylum along with actual refugees.


EU statisticians claim only 1 in 5 migrants are from Syria

http://metro.co.uk/2015/09/19/eu-statisticians-claim-only-1-in-5-migrants-are-from-syria-5398412/
West africa?
No, not as many as you might think.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/34410241/refugees.jpg (http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documents/2995521/6996925/3-18092015-BP-EN.pdf/b0377f79-f06d-4263-aa5b-cc9b4f6a838f)

Hmm yeah, I might have exaggerated a bit. Thanks for linking straight to the source of the statistic, that was a better read actually.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: bryant.coleman on September 21, 2015, 04:56:16 PM
Another clueless post of yours. European Commission just recently decided Poland will take 9287 people and believe me, Polish authorities will take every measure to make sure they are not economic immigrants, only people running away from death, literally. Unfortunately Poles are very racist. That's one of the reasons I don't live there. If you followed this closer you would know, your probable guesses don't work here. Even if they all bring their families it's not a problem. 15,000 fans were recently seen on Legia match and that's just one club. Read about Lech Poznan or Cracovia.
Comparing polish hooligans with Islamic insurgents in Iraq is just stupid. Don't you worry polish hooligans are worst in EU, kids are stabbing and killing each other on daily basis, as far as I know they are planning to diverse all that hate towards immigrants. They are not scared of corrupted police with live shotguns why would they be afraid of immigrants? Freedom doesn't exist any more, in any country.           

That 9,287 figure was just for the initial batch of 160,000 migrants. Out of the 160,000 migrants (who have arrived in the European Union prior to August 2015), Poland will take around 9,000 (i.e 6% of the migrants). But what about the second batch? What about the third, and the fourth... and so on? Millions of migrants are expected to arrive in the EU this year.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Balthazar on September 22, 2015, 09:53:00 PM
https://pp.vk.me/c623719/v623719308/446e2/bWHfOynA8co.jpg


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Buffer Overflow on September 24, 2015, 07:20:57 PM
http://s4.postimg.org/as76998fx/rjyca.jpg


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Salivan on September 24, 2015, 08:54:10 PM
I happen  to live in Poland.
This  country is almost  collapsing under its own weight,
 so I see no way of  dealing with emigrants in any sensible way here.
people from  fan clubs are  a joke (I know  a few)
 so giving them as any  kind of solution is  crazy and  dangerous.

In big picture I see inevitable collapse  of  Europe as we know it within 30-40 years, so everyone  here still have  time to  enjoy their cup of popcorn.


I see no  other solution  at  this point  than territorial secession  of  some part of UE area and  either  put  there refugees or people from indigenous populations 


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: blablahblah on September 25, 2015, 11:07:05 AM
I happen  to live in Poland.
This  country is almost  collapsing under its own weight,
 so I see no way of  dealing with emigrants in any sensible way here.
people from  fan clubs are  a joke (I know  a few)
 so giving them as any  kind of solution is  crazy and  dangerous.

In big picture I see inevitable collapse  of  Europe as we know it within 30-40 years, so everyone  here still have  time to  enjoy their cup of popcorn.


I see no  other solution  at  this point  than territorial secession  of  some part of UE area and  either  put  there refugees or people from indigenous populations 

Oh come on... I happen to know a bit about Poland, and apart from a few problems like the risk of right wing idiots (PIS) coming into power in the next election, and racist pseudo-Catholics, their economy is catching up to the rest of the EU. Don't forget that it takes a long time to recover after the communists spent >40 years obeying Moscow and destroying the Polish economy.

Europe has been around since before Roman times. You need to get out more, and stop listening to negativity from fake nationalists who claim to be Polish but print their gang emblem in ENGLISH. ;D


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Lauda on September 25, 2015, 11:32:01 AM
Oh come on... I happen to know a bit about Poland, and apart from a few problems like the risk of right wing idiots (PIS) coming into power in the next election, and racist pseudo-Catholics, their economy is catching up to the rest of the EU. Don't forget that it takes a long time to recover after the communists spent >40 years obeying Moscow and destroying the Polish economy.

Europe has been around since before Roman times. You need to get out more, and stop listening to negativity from fake nationalists who claim to be Polish but print their gang emblem in ENGLISH. ;D
Correct. There are countries that have it much more worse than Poland. There are countries that have really bad living standards. I've been there and I've met people from others. I'm talking about Europe not EU in particular. However, because of the laws of the EU, a single country will be forced to take in refugees regardless of what they've voted. As far as I know most countries have voted yes, aside from 2-3 voting no and 1 has not voted at all (Finland I think). In other words everyone will be forced to take up a certain number of refugees.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: darkangel11 on September 25, 2015, 11:53:26 AM
I happen  to live in Poland.
This  country is almost  collapsing under its own weight,
 so I see no way of  dealing with emigrants in any sensible way here.
people from  fan clubs are  a joke (I know  a few)
 so giving them as any  kind of solution is  crazy and  dangerous.

In big picture I see inevitable collapse  of  Europe as we know it within 30-40 years, so everyone  here still have  time to  enjoy their cup of popcorn.


I see no  other solution  at  this point  than territorial secession  of  some part of UE area and  either  put  there refugees or people from indigenous populations  

Oh come on... I happen to know a bit about Poland, and apart from a few problems like the risk of right wing idiots (PIS) coming into power in the next election, and racist pseudo-Catholics, their economy is catching up to the rest of the EU. Don't forget that it takes a long time to recover after the communists spent >40 years obeying Moscow and destroying the Polish economy.

Europe has been around since before Roman times. You need to get out more, and stop listening to negativity from fake nationalists who claim to be Polish but print their gang emblem in ENGLISH. ;D

I heard wages in Poland are terrible. Educated people are earning less than 4 USD per hour, I wouldn't call that catching up to the rest of the EU. Poles are the largest minority in the UK and second largest in Germany, go figure.

We're witnessing an enormous migration wave unseen since WWII. Rich countries won't be able to support so many migrants and will end up closing their borders just like they are doing at the moment.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Snail2 on September 25, 2015, 01:05:25 PM
Europe has been around since before Roman times. You need to get out more, and stop listening to negativity from fake nationalists who claim to be Polish but print their gang emblem in ENGLISH. ;D

Indeed it's here since before the Roman times, but it collapsed of felt apart in every few hundred years :). The EU is just the next empire in a long row and it's going to collapse sooner or later. It's too big and too ineffective and there are two many rifts and clashes of interest between the members. So I think it wont last long. The leftist/liberal scum in Brussels are already desperately trying to hold it together and they need immigrants as a boost for their diminishing voting base, that's why they promoting mass immigration.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Salivan on September 25, 2015, 02:19:18 PM
I happen  to live in Poland.
This  country is almost  collapsing under its own weight,
 so I see no way of  dealing with emigrants in any sensible way here.
people from  fan clubs are  a joke (I know  a few)
 so giving them as any  kind of solution is  crazy and  dangerous.

In big picture I see inevitable collapse  of  Europe as we know it within 30-40 years, so everyone  here still have  time to  enjoy their cup of popcorn.


I see no  other solution  at  this point  than territorial secession  of  some part of UE area and  either  put  there refugees or people from indigenous populations  

Oh come on... I happen to know a bit about Poland, and apart from a few problems like the risk of right wing idiots (PIS) coming into power in the next election, and racist pseudo-Catholics, their economy is catching up to the rest of the EU. Don't forget that it takes a long time to recover after the communists spent >40 years obeying Moscow and destroying the Polish economy.

Europe has been around since before Roman times. You need to get out more, and stop listening to negativity from fake nationalists who claim to be Polish but print their gang emblem in ENGLISH. ;D

I heard wages in Poland are terrible. Educated people are earning less than 4 USD per hour, I wouldn't call that catching up to the rest of the EU. Poles are the largest minority in the UK and second largest in Germany, go figure.

We're witnessing an enormous migration wave unseen since WWII. Rich countries won't be able to support so many migrants and will end up closing their borders just like they are doing at the moment.

people  who  left would be an asset here but  they are burden  in  German or  England  society (or it seems they are perceived this way I don't want  to discuss this ).
They were disappointed with possibilities presented to them in Poland so  given a chance of  easier  life  abroad  they obviously choose the latter.
As  the result main  force  for  some  changes is missing, and  development  is  slow. Additionally the same people  whom would  be on the front of our  society  are  the  margin in G. or E.
 I am  talking  Poland but  I would  risk claim that it well goes with  any less developed country 


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Wilikon on September 25, 2015, 02:33:46 PM



Rape and child abuse 'are rife in German refugee camps': Unsegregated conditions blamed as women are 'seen as fair game' in overcrowded migrant centres


Abuses said to be taking place among 5,000 migrants at camp in Giessen
Fear the number of unreported rapes and sexual assaults is significant
It may be taking place at overcrowded refugee centres across the country



A culture of rape and sexual abuse is being allowed to take hold in asylum centres across Germany as Europe struggles to cope with the migrant crisis, it has been alleged,

Women’s rights groups and politicians have highlighted assaults against women and children in at least one camp.

And they suggest such incidents may be widespread, with many going unreported to the police.

Campaigners also claimed some men saw unaccompanied women as ‘fair game’, and also blamed conditions in which occupants were unsegregated by gender or nationality.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3247831/Rape-child-abuse-rife-overcrowded-asylum-centres-huge-surge-migrants-pushes-Germany-s-services-breaking-point-claim-womens-rights-groups-politicians.html




Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: blablahblah on September 26, 2015, 12:33:25 AM
So it seems no-one has any sound argument against the refugees, and it all boils down to some combination of bigotry and greed.
Terrorism -- baseless hearsay.
Vandalism and litter in buses and parks -- no worse than football hooligans, including Russian football hooligans. Some of the photos clearly showed that the refugees had to abandon all of their things, including blankets because they were probably picked up a bus in the middle of the night.

More voters for Brussels -- when would they be eligible to vote? And how is the 0.01% difference change supposed to help, when there's a much higher percentage of right-wing xenophobes who urinate in their pants and book one-way tickets to St. Petersburg when they see a Muslim for the first time in their life?

The EU cannot afford immigrants, because the US' housing crisis contagion was caused by Muslims, and of course migrants are unemployable...

European bloodlines must be kept pure and white -- the temperate climate is not enough, so dark-skinned non-Aryans must be kept out...  ::)


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Wilikon on September 26, 2015, 02:43:39 AM
So it seems no-one has any sound argument against the refugees, and it all boils down to some combination of bigotry and greed.
Terrorism -- baseless hearsay.
Vandalism and litter in buses and parks -- no worse than football hooligans, including Russian football hooligans. Some of the photos clearly showed that the refugees had to abandon all of their things, including blankets because they were probably picked up a bus in the middle of the night.

More voters for Brussels -- when would they be eligible to vote? And how is the 0.01% difference change supposed to help, when there's a much higher percentage of right-wing xenophobes who urinate in their pants and book one-way tickets to St. Petersburg when they see a Muslim for the first time in their life?

The EU cannot afford immigrants, because the US' housing crisis contagion was caused by Muslims, and of course migrants are unemployable...

European bloodlines must be kept pure and white -- the temperate climate is not enough, so dark-skinned non-Aryans must be kept out...  ::)


... And then, after this amazing lesson you've set upon us, telling everyone how they should open their arms and their home, you'll go back sipping some wine, watching some netflix, while musing on how off-white your superior non racist skin is, under the light of that lamp shade you got from amazon...

 ::)





Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Buffer Overflow on September 26, 2015, 04:45:01 AM
So it seems no-one has any sound argument against the refugees, and it all boils down to some combination of bigotry and greed.
Accepting migrants just encourages more migrants. We know this to be true. Accepting migrants opens up the very real risk of tens of millions more.
Sure I want to help them, it's human nature. But not at the cost of destorying myself. Self-preservation is a stronger instinct than the instinct of helping others.

Put yourself in this situation...
You've just managed to jump in a lifeboat from the sinking ship Titanic. Your one of the lucky ones, but hundreds are still left in the sea and will die quickly from hypothermia.
Your lifeboat is designed to hold 100 people, but there is only 25 people in your boat.
You can see people in the sea calling for help, you could row over to pick up 75, but doing so would mean hundreds would swamp the boat capsizing it. Then everyone would die, including you.

So what do you do? Row back to help which would be certain suicide, or row away?




Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: bryant.coleman on September 26, 2015, 05:00:08 AM
So it seems no-one has any sound argument against the refugees, and it all boils down to some combination of bigotry and greed.

Saudi Arabia has accepted a total of 3 Syrian refugees in the past three years, although they were the masterminds behind the creation of the ISIS. The richest country in the world (Qatar) has refused to accept any of the Syrian refugees. I am yet to see a post of yours condemning Saudi and Qatar. It seems like you are having some shady intentions to bring the Muslims to Europe. 


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Wilikon on September 26, 2015, 02:17:22 PM



Germany in a state of SIEGE: Merkel was cheered when she opened the floodgates to migrants. Now, with gangs of men roaming the streets and young German women being told to cover up, the mood's changing

Thousands of economic migrants are posing as refugees to reach Europe
David Cameron said this week that Europe must said failed asylum claimants back to their countries
Demands for Germany's 'open doors and windows' policy to be scrapped
Women said rape and child abuse were rife in Giessen's refugee camp



On the busy shopping street in Giessen, a German university town twinned with Winchester, migrant Atif Zahoor tucks into a chicken dish with his brother and cousin at the curry restaurant Chillie To Go.

They have left good jobs back in Karachi, Pakistan, and now want to be Europeans.

In late July the three slipped into Germany with their wives and children, using illegal documents. They live together in a five-bedroom house, rented for them by Chancellor Angela Merkel’s government, a 40-minute drive away from Giessen, which is home to the biggest migrants’ camp in the country.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3249667/Germany-state-SIEGE-Merkel-cheered-opened-floodgates-migrants-gangs-men-roaming-streets-young-German-women-told-cover-mood-s-changing.html





Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: bryant.coleman on September 26, 2015, 02:24:58 PM
^^^^ This will be Merkel's waterloo. Less than 200K migrants have arrived so far in Germany, and already the opinions are changing. Merkel's popularity ratings, which remained stable ever since she was elected for the first time in 2005, will come down hard. I am sure that she will lose the next German federal election (scheduled to happen in 2017).


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Wilikon on September 26, 2015, 02:38:58 PM
^^^^ This will be Merkel's waterloo. Less than 200K migrants have arrived so far in Germany, and already the opinions are changing. Merkel's popularity ratings, which remained stable ever since she was elected for the first time in 2005, will come down hard. I am sure that she will lose the next German federal election (scheduled to happen in 2017).


Let's say you are for open border open arms for the mass. Let's say a lot of them are running from certain deaths. Isn't more inhumane to have ZERO infrastructures for them, giving away what you already have promised to the german poor?

Winter is coming. I can see dead frozen babies on german streets as the next photo crisis everywhere...

Pray allah Global Warming Is Real Folks!!!



Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: ThePrinceofTea on September 26, 2015, 02:43:51 PM
demographic wars always end in tragedy...

it's the story of the guy with the penthouse with 5bdrs and 3 baths... he does what ever he wants when alone... when all 4 bdrs (excluding his own) are occupied by 6 people each (25 ass in the penthouse), he can't shit anymore.

101.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: bryant.coleman on September 26, 2015, 04:14:04 PM
demographic wars always end in tragedy...

it's the story of the guy with the penthouse with 5bdrs and 3 baths... he does what ever he wants when alone... when all 4 bdrs (excluding his own) are occupied by 6 people each (25 ass in the penthouse), he can't shit anymore.

101.

When the population increases, they will demand more and more houses. And when they become the majority in that particular suburb, they will declare it as a no-go area for the native inhabitants. The remaining Germans will just flee to some of the safe cities or villages. This has happened in London and Detoilet, and this is going to happen in Germany.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Balthazar on September 26, 2015, 05:04:29 PM
It seems like you are having some shady intentions to bring the Muslims to Europe. 
Oh common... He's just a mindless drone. Drones have neither will nor intentions.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Wilikon on September 26, 2015, 10:11:40 PM



'LARGEST MOSQUE IN WESTERN EUROPE' ENGULFED IN FLAMES...


A large fire has broken out at a mosque complex in south London.

The blaze at the Baitul Futuh Mosque in Morden, which describes itself as the largest mosque in western Europe, was being tackled by 70 firefighters.
The London Fire Brigade said the fire was contained to an administration building and the mosque itself was unaffected. They said the blaze was under control by about 17:30 BST.

A man was taken to hospital suffering the effects of smoke inhalation.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-34369710


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Coincidence?




Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Wilikon on September 26, 2015, 10:29:59 PM



Finns Attack “Refugee” Bus with Rocks and Fireworks – Refugees Turn Back to Sweden


Protesters in Finland hurled fireworks, stones and beer bottles at a refugee bus bringing migrants to a center.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIeZTuUQ9C0




Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Wilikon on September 27, 2015, 12:22:07 AM



Vatican Says Every Nation’s Right Of Sovereignty Has To ‘Bend’ To Meet The Dignity Of Illegal Aliens




The Vatican



Part of the reason that the media is having such a huge love affair with the Pope as he visits America is that they all believe that we’ll become much more leftist if we just listen to his left-wing rhetoric.

And while some are doubting the more subtle references the Pope has been making towards supporting unfortunate immigrants, the Vatican has made it clear what he means to the New York Times:

The Vatican is careful to recognize a legitimate diversity of opinion on the issue of illegal immigration, advocating the rights of migrants to seek a better life and of sovereign states to regulate their borders. But in his speeches so far this week, Francis has clearly focused his attention on the migrants who see him as their champion.

“When you have these two rights in conflict, which one has to bend?” said Greg Burke, the senior adviser for communications at the Vatican. “The Gospel answers that it has to bend in favor of human dignity.”

http://therightscoop.com/vatican-says-every-nations-right-of-sovereignty-has-to-bend-to-meet-the-dignity-of-illegal-immigrants/





Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: blablahblah on September 27, 2015, 01:20:31 AM
So it seems no-one has any sound argument against the refugees, and it all boils down to some combination of bigotry and greed.
Accepting migrants just encourages more migrants. We know this to be true. Accepting migrants opens up the very real risk of tens of millions more.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/slippery-slope (https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/slippery-slope)

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Sure I want to help them, it's human nature. But not at the cost of destorying myself. Self-preservation is a stronger instinct than the instinct of helping others.

Much ado about nothing. You're sounding kinda weak there. "Gee, I'd love to help, but I'd be *uncomfortable* if for every 100 strangers I meet in the mall or through work, 1 or 2 of them were... non-Europeans. It would DESTROY my sense of self and well-being! :'( "

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Put yourself in this situation...
You've just managed to jump in a lifeboat from the sinking ship Titanic. Your one of the lucky ones, but hundreds are still left in the sea and will die quickly from hypothermia.
Your lifeboat is designed to hold 100 people, but there is only 25 people in your boat.
You can see people in the sea calling for help, you could row over to pick up 75, but doing so would mean hundreds would swamp the boat capsizing it. Then everyone would die, including you.

So what do you do? Row back to help which would be certain suicide, or row away?
You make it sound like they're diseased with Ebola or something. Europe's got over 300 million people. So where's that 900 million that's going to sink the boat?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_hysteria (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_hysteria)



... And then, after this amazing lesson you've set upon us, telling everyone how they should open their arms and their home, you'll go back sipping some wine, watching some netflix, while musing on how off-white your superior non racist skin is, under the light of that lamp shade you got from amazon...

 ::)
Yeah, because Amazon's all about automation, not cheap labour. And we totally need Aryans to operate those forklifts for $3 an hour.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: blablahblah on September 27, 2015, 01:53:31 AM
When the population increases, they will demand more and more houses. And when they become the majority in that particular suburb, they will declare it as a no-go area for the native inhabitants. The remaining Germans will just flee to some of the safe cities or villages. This has happened in London and Detoilet, and this is going to happen in Germany.

Outside of the bubble that you live in, many cities have this dangerous area called "China town" where brutal Asian gangs ambush unwitting tourists and turn them into stir-fly duck. It's a never-ending soy sauce train because the delicious smell just encourages more tourists to stop for food so they can get attacked.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: bryant.coleman on September 27, 2015, 05:58:29 AM
This guy known as the "Pope" should just shut up and keep a low profile. The state of Vatican has accepted ZERO Syrian refugees to this date. And now he is urging the European nations to accept millions of Muslim migrants. If he is so concerned about the plight of the Muslims, then he should sell some of the assets of the Catholic church, worth trillions of USD, and give that money to these migrants. I have never seen a bigger hypocrite in my life.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Snail2 on September 28, 2015, 12:57:21 PM
This guy known as the "Pope" should just shut up and keep a low profile. The state of Vatican has accepted ZERO Syrian refugees to this date. And now he is urging the European nations to accept millions of Muslim migrants. If he is so concerned about the plight of the Muslims, then he should sell some of the assets of the Catholic church, worth trillions of USD, and give that money to these migrants. I have never seen a bigger hypocrite in my life.

Actually who cares about what the "False Prophet" rebuffed last time. His approval rate within the church diminishing quickly, in these days only the leftist/liberal media keep celebrating him. (Mass media is a good compass, if they like something then it's better to avoid that "something".)


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Lauda on September 28, 2015, 04:34:55 PM
Actually who cares about what the "False Prophet" rebuffed last time. His approval rate within the church diminishing quickly, in these days only the leftist/liberal media keep celebrating him. (Mass media is a good compass, if they like something then it's better to avoid that "something".)
Well obviously average people are going to care and Christians. Vatican needs to shut up unless they are doing something right now, which they are not. If I was the head of a country I would not let people push me into doing the wrong thing (i.e. letting a lot of them get in). If they do keep letting random people in, then I'll most likely move my expertise somewhere else as soon as this is possible. People who are not experiencing this first hand have no real idea what's going on.
I have a friend in Italy. She's a woman and quite small (~152). Since the surge of refugees from Africa the crime and rape incidents have increased. She does not feel safe when she's alone anymore at all! Similar stuff is going to happen in every country that accepts random people from down there (who knows how many criminals have entered/will enter). Why would anyone normal want to live in a hostile environment?


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: bryant.coleman on September 28, 2015, 06:31:50 PM
I have a friend in Italy. She's a woman and quite small (~152). Since the surge of refugees from Africa the crime and rape incidents have increased. She does not feel safe when she's alone anymore at all! Similar stuff is going to happen in every country that accepts random people from down there (who knows how many criminals have entered/will enter). Why would anyone normal want to live in a hostile environment?

Incidents of rape has increased by many times in countries such as Germany, Sweden, Austria, and Croatia, ever since the migrant influx from the Muslim countries began. Recently, a 16-year old schoolgirl was raped in Germany by a Muslim immigrant. But the mainstream media is under strict instructions from the government, to ignore these cases.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Wilikon on September 29, 2015, 07:10:12 PM



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIcltV7r-nM&feature=em-subs_digest





Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: st4nl3y on September 30, 2015, 10:57:01 PM
30,000 People shouting "Fuck Islam" on the streets of Poland

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4z6Uxk6tGE


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: bryant.coleman on October 01, 2015, 07:59:36 PM
And here comes the new record!!! (Only to be breached the next month)

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/10/01/uk-europe-migrants-germany-idUKKCN0RV4CX20151001

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Germany took in more than 200,000 migrants in September, politicians said on Thursday, a new record which is likely to fuel the debate about how many newcomers Europe's most populous country can absorb.

Until all this began, I was having a feeling that Germany will become a Muslim majority nation only in 2040 or 2050. Now I think that it can happen as early as 2018 or 2019.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Lauda on October 01, 2015, 08:12:15 PM
And here comes the new record!!! (Only to be breached the next month)
There is more new about the refugees. Over 200 asylum seekers clash in German refugee center (http://www.rt.com/news/317229-refugees-clash-german-center/). Apparently this is the third such incident this week only. This is what happens when you let in people who are violent and not used to living in a civilized nation.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Schleicher on October 02, 2015, 06:11:01 AM
There is more new about the refugees. Over 200 asylum seekers clash in German refugee center (http://www.rt.com/news/317229-refugees-clash-german-center/). Apparently this is the third such incident this week only. This is what happens when you let in people who are violent and not used to living in a civilized nation.
No, this happens when you have a lot of people in a small space


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Souldream on October 02, 2015, 06:55:20 AM
You're just butthurt. The Polish minister was probably factually correct in saying that most of the soldiers were of Ukrainian origin. Look on any map to find out where Auschwitz is located, and you will see that it would make no sense for more distant Red Army units to be involved, rather than the Ukrainian ones.

Listen idiot, the unit which liberated Auschwitz (Voronezh Front) was more than 90% Russian, and there were hardly any Ukrainians in that unit. Most of the soldiers were from the Russian provinces of Voronezh, Lipetsk and Tambov. All the three commanders were ethnic Russian (General Nikolai F. Vatutin, Marshal Georgy K. Zhukov, and Marshal Ivan S. Konev).

That said, I don't care about shameless people such as you. Soviet Union should have let the Nazis conquer all of the Western Europe and North America. People such as you should have been gassed by the Nazis.

When argument are missing, the best way is personnal attack ... this proof again the way of democratic rulez... your own rulez ...

First, you forget to add because Soviet union show have let the Nazis ... but this is what they DO  ... LoL ... -> Secret Ribentrop-Molotov ... ??? Hoo yes ... non agression pact to divide conquered Poland ...

And of course ...  the invade by German start on 1st september 1939 but you forget to add that Russian was invading poland start on 17 september 1939 .. .with the same shit as Crimea ... we wanted to protect Russian speaking langage ... LoL

Wanting the death of other people is showing really how you are ... and wich democracy you like .. or perhaps -> Dictator's way ?

And where are your great information about the free of Oswiecim  ... Forget the story about Katyn ?? Come on ... The great liberator of CCCP .... the same those during 50 years lie to all polish .... as they killed more then .. how much ???? 5 .. 10 .. ? Hoo no

Little story for u, because ... it is pissing when people want to re-write the story ... and sorry but Russian are number one for this fact !

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The Katyn massacre (Polish: zbrodnia katyńska, mord katyński, "Katyń crime"; Russian: Кaтынcкий paccтpeл Katynskij ra'sstrel, "Katyn shooting") was a series of mass executions of Polish nationals carried out by the People's Commissariat for Internal Affairs (NKVD), the Soviet secret police, in April and May 1940. Originally, the term "Katyn massacre", also known as the Katyn Forest massacre, referred to the massacre at Katyn Forest, which was discovered first and was the largest execution of this type.

The massacre was prompted by NKVD chief Lavrentiy Beria's proposal to execute all captive members of the Polish Officer Corps, dated 5 March 1940, approved by the Soviet Politburo, including its leader, Joseph Stalin. The number of victims is estimated at about 22,000.[1] The victims were executed in the Katyn Forest in Russia, the Kalinin and Kharkiv prisons, and elsewhere. Of the total killed, about 8,000 were officers taken prisoner during the 1939 Soviet invasion of Poland, another 6,000 were police officers, and the rest were arrested Polish intelligentsia that the Soviets deemed to be "intelligence agents, gendarmes, landowners, saboteurs, factory owners, lawyers, officials and priests".[1]

The government of Nazi Germany announced the discovery of mass graves in the Katyn Forest in 1943. When the London-based Polish government-in-exile asked for an investigation by the International Red Cross, Stalin immediately severed diplomatic relations with it. The USSR claimed that the victims had been murdered by the Nazis in 1941, and continued to deny responsibility for the massacres until 1990, when it officially acknowledged and condemned the perpetration of the killings by the NKVD, as well as the subsequent cover-up by the Soviet government.[1][2][3][a]

An investigation conducted by the Prosecutor General's Office of the Soviet Union (1990–1991) and the Russian Federation (1991–2004) confirmed Soviet responsibility for the massacres, but refused to classify this action as a war crime or an act of genocide. The investigation was closed on the grounds that the perpetrators of the atrocity were already dead, and since the Russian government would not classify the dead as victims of Stalinist repression, formal posthumous rehabilitation was deemed inapplicable.[4]

In November 2010, the Russian State Duma approved a declaration blaming Stalin and other Soviet officials for having personally ordered the massacre.[5]

...Blaming Stalin ... the same monster that Poutine show now as a great men .... who served Russia ... and killed 30 Millions Russia too in Camp in Siberia ... LoL

If you like so much Russia ... go living there ... but please stop to post stupid propaganda ...


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Lauda on October 02, 2015, 09:20:57 AM
No, this happens when you have a lot of people in a small space
So 500 students in the same room waiting for classes and this happens? There are a lot of examples in civilized nations where it is very crowded at times and yet nobody engages in a 200 man brawl. There are time where the metro is really full and people are pushing your constantly (unintentionally though). Should I start a brawl to resolve the problem? Please don't talk nonsense. Civilized people should not engage in any brawls (only in extreme and unavoidable cases) not to mention some group brawls. Nobody should support a influx of illegal people and false acceptance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIcltV7r-nM&feature=em-subs_digest
This is actually a very good video and everyone should watch it before you start supporting the stupid policy of accepting so many people.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Denker on October 02, 2015, 10:09:45 AM
There is more new about the refugees. Over 200 asylum seekers clash in German refugee center (http://www.rt.com/news/317229-refugees-clash-german-center/). Apparently this is the third such incident this week only. This is what happens when you let in people who are violent and not used to living in a civilized nation.
No, this happens when you have a lot of people in a small space

Might be one reason yes. But not the main factor.Have you read what Rainer Wendt, President of german police union, said a few days ago?!
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/01/police-leader-speaks-migrant-crisis-warns-violent-clashes/ (http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/01/police-leader-speaks-migrant-crisis-warns-violent-clashes/)

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The leader of the German police union has warned of violent clashes between migrant groups being imported into his country. In a newspaper interview he also said that information about the migrant crisis is being withheld by authorities to avoid scaring the public.


Rainer Wendt, Federal Chairman of the German Police Union, was being interviewed by Deutsche Wirtschafts Nachrichten when he issued his warning about importing violence into the country.

Describing the migrant crisis as the biggest challenge to the police since 1945, he warned of “widespread prepared and organised mass brawls and fights” in migrant camps, such as the one in the central German city of Kassel (pictured above) which Breitbart London previously reported.

Wendt explained that he was not talking about mere scuffles, but of “proper power struggles between different groups who have different ethnic and religious backgrounds.”

Although he noted that there have been attacks by Islamists on Christians, he counseled against identifying a particular ethnic group or religion as the main perpetrator for two reasons.

First, he said the numerous reports of violence and abuse aimed at women and children are not specific to any one faith or ethnic group.

Secondly, Wendt explained most conflicts take place within not between religious communities – in Germany’s case mostly Muslims. Saying why he thinks faith-based segregation is not the answer to the problem, he added: “We must not forget: in the home countries, most victims of Islamists are not Christians, but Muslims. A religious separation is therefore not effective.”

Wendt said that the crisis does not give the impression of being under control and that so long as it persists the long-term effects are hard to assess. He did, however, say that if the influx is not stopped then conflicts between migrants will be played out on German streets.

He warned that an upshot of migrant violence is the risk “right-wing extremists use the mood for themselves in order to carry out attacks against refugee shelters”, but said there is no actual evidence of this.

The interviewer suggested that despite the arrival of “hundreds of thousands” comparatively little has actually happened and asked whether that impression is accurate. Wendt replied that in fact “the public does not know everything” because the police report “only a fraction” of what is happening to avoid scaring people unnecessarily.

The former head of Austria’s domestic security agency, Dr Gert R. Polli, recently warned that terror groups may be taking advantage of the migrant crisis to place terrorists in Europe, as reported by Breitbart London. Wendt agreed that the possibility of terrorists and radicals coming in cannot be excluded as “border controls to Austria are no longer intact… borders are no longer controllable.”


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Wilikon on October 02, 2015, 08:02:13 PM


Hamburg to seize commercial property to house migrants


Hamburg has become the first German city to pass a law allowing the seizure of empty commercial properties in order to house migrants.

The influx of migrants has put pressure on the authorities of the northern city to find accommodation. Some migrants are sleeping rough outdoors.

Hamburg's law takes effect next week.

In a separate development, prosecutors filed charges of inciting racial hatred against a co-founder of the anti-Islamic Pegida movement.
The prosecutors in the eastern city of Dresden said they acted after Lutz Bachmann had on Facebook described asylum seekers "trash" and "animals".

Pegida (Patriotic Europeans Against the Islamisation of the Occident) members have staged a number of rallies in recent months, attracting tens of thousands of people.

Meanwhile, a new survey by broadcaster ARD said 51% of people admitted the influx of migrants scared them. It suggests a four-year low in Chancellor Angela Merkel's popularity.

She has said Germany can accommodate migrants who have genuinely fled war or persecution - a humanitarian gesture towards the many thousands risking their lives to reach Europe this year.

But many politicians - including her conservative Bavarian CSU allies and various EU partners - have criticised the open-door policy.

Hamburg's new law is described as a temporary, emergency measure. Owners of empty commercial properties will be compensated. The law does not include residential properties.

But the conservative opposition in the city, in the north of Germany, condemned the move.

The authorities in Bremen, a city just west of Hamburg, are considering passing a similar law.

Mass brawl

Germany expects to host at least 800,000 asylum seekers this year - about four times the number it had last year.

Many are from war-torn Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan. But the thousands arriving also include asylum seekers from Kosovo, Albania and other Balkan countries, whose claims are usually rejected.

On Thursday more than 200 migrants fought each other in a mass brawl at a reception centre in Hamburg-Bergedorf. Police said Syrians and Afghans were involved in the latest clash.

Similar fights have erupted at some other migrant centres in Germany. A bigger brawl took place near Kassel, in central Germany, at the end of September.

In Berlin, Munich, Hamburg and elsewhere the authorities have erected tented camps for migrants - but with winter approaching they are deemed too basic as communal housing.

There is hardly any accommodation left in Hamburg for migrants, who are entering the city at a rate of about 500 daily, ARD television reports.

The Hamburg region's leftist government - a coalition of Greens, Social Democrats (SPD) and Die Linke - says the new law will be in force until March 2017.

Confiscation will only take place if the property owner refuses to hand it over willingly in exchange for compensation.

In the Brandenburg region, in eastern Germany, the authorities have halted the demolition of old social housing blocks. Instead they will be refurbished to provide 4,000 flats for migrants, the daily Die Zeit reports.

Meanwhile Franconia, in north Bavaria, plans to build cheap modular units to house migrants for 10 years, after which they will be rented out as social housing for locals.


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34422558




Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: vero on October 03, 2015, 02:02:26 AM
Yes this could end the EU, as many countries do not want to be overrun by Muslims. Or continue to be dominate by Fourth Reich Germany and pencil neck technocrats in Brussels.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: bryant.coleman on October 03, 2015, 06:47:50 AM
Yes this could end the EU, as many countries do not want to be overrun by Muslims. Or continue to be dominate by Fourth Reich Germany and pencil neck technocrats in Brussels.

It won't be that easy. Countries such as Poland are extremely dependent upon Germany. A large part of the subsidies given to the Eastern European nations are being funded by the Germans, and large number of Poles, Hungarians.etc work in Germany for a living. If Germany replaces the Poles and the Hungarians in its factories with the Syrians, then there will be unrest in the Eastern European nations.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Wilikon on October 05, 2015, 11:01:21 PM



Muslim Migrants Demand Sex: “Problem, problem problem here (points to groin) Balls is very big”




Published on Oct 5, 2015
Muslim Migrants Demand Sex: “Problem, problem problem here (points to groin) Balls is very big”

Refugees in refugee shelter talk about their problems, “not having sex.”

“I slept three days in hospital because of this problem.”

Reporter: “What was the problem?”

“Problem, problem problem here (points to groin) Balls is very big.

Reporter: “Your balls?”

“Really. He said make sex with anyone.”


https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=25&v=aiYi63nx1EI




Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: mdgreasyjohn on October 06, 2015, 02:04:11 AM
I fail to see how it's even remotely similar to the post-WW2 fiasco of Jews getting sent to Palestine, turning it into modern-day Israel, and gradually oppressing the Palestinians more and more and adopting the same Nazi mentality that they escaped from.
it is very similar. the jewish invasion of palestine began more than a half century before ww2 with "harmless" pioneers going there to work and set up farms and businesses. by the time the palestine arabs figured out what was going on (t1920s) and agreed amongst themselves that the jewish infiltrators needed to be driven out (1930s) it was too late.
shoot i thought moses started it


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: ThePrinceofTea on October 06, 2015, 04:27:26 PM

A young, female ‘No Borders’ activist working in a migrant camp on the France-Italy border remained silent about her gang rape by Sudanese migrants for over a month because “the others asked me to keep quiet.”

Colleagues are alleged to have said that reporting the crime would set back their struggle for a borderless world


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a5/GreatWall_2004_Summer_1A.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e7/Hadrianswall2007.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/Border_Mexico_USA.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/Un_base_panmunjom.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/01/Pesah_213.jpg

I am speechless.



Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: saddampbuh on October 06, 2015, 04:50:35 PM
shoot i thought moses started it
probably never existed


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Wilikon on October 06, 2015, 09:49:20 PM



Multi-Culturalism Fail: Gangs Of Arab Migrants Riot For Fifth Straight Night In Sweden, Torching Cars, Attacking Police…


It is supposed to be the model multicultural state. But Sweden is facing problems of its own after gangs of immigrants spent a fifth consecutive night rioting  in Stockholm.

Officers are battling to keep the  capital under control after hundreds of cars were torched, a police station set alight and fire services kept from  a major blaze by a stone-throwing mob of youths.

To make matters worse, rioting has now spread to Sweden’s two other major cities, Gothenburg and Malmo.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2330247/Sweden-flames-As-gangs-migrants-riot-nights-running--Utopian-boats-multicultural-success-story-turn-ashes.html#ixzz3nnwzwtjX


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What a surprise. Those images are photoshooooooooooped!!!!!





Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: ThePrinceofTea on October 06, 2015, 09:57:05 PM
It is supposed to be the model multicultural state
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What a surprise. Those images are photoshooooooooooped!!!!!

when will they wake up? others say it's by design... if it's by design once the pendulum will switch (remember the grassroots are idiots that pee on themselves) those having done that, will be exposed to the same faith of those rapists. and it ain't pretty. IBM did a lot of progress... there will be no cards trail (to make the Donald happy). Digitization can be so cold once the zero energy chips are hashing.

of course the leftists will have no choice but to build a censorship apparatus to silent all dissent. this system will be the foundation of their downfall... only it's impossible to know how low it will get. they seems to NOT want to learn, putinlike.

free will - informed consent - victimless

otherwise it will comeback to bite...



Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: bryant.coleman on October 10, 2015, 07:49:05 PM
Muslim Migrants Demand Sex: “Problem, problem problem here (points to groin) Balls is very big”

These people are extremely dangerous, not only for humans, but for the animals as well. German Children under the age of 15 (both boys and girls) should not be allowed to travel alone, if they are living within the 5 km radius within this refugee center. Also, horses, goats, cows, pigs and other domesticated animals should be kept under lock and key.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: ANdr0id on October 10, 2015, 07:54:11 PM
Muslim Migrants Demand Sex: “Problem, problem problem here (points to groin) Balls is very big”

These people are extremely dangerous, not only for humans, but for the animals as well. German Children under the age of 15 (both boys and girls) should not be allowed to travel alone, if they are living within the 5 km radius within this refugee center. Also, horses, goats, cows, pigs and other domesticated animals should be kept under lock and key.
OMG seriously? I don't think these guys would do beastiality. That is against the law in Europe and in any civilized nation. Just the thought is making me sick to my stomach. :-X


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Wilikon on October 10, 2015, 08:55:59 PM
Muslim Migrants Demand Sex: “Problem, problem problem here (points to groin) Balls is very big”

These people are extremely dangerous, not only for humans, but for the animals as well. German Children under the age of 15 (both boys and girls) should not be allowed to travel alone, if they are living within the 5 km radius within this refugee center. Also, horses, goats, cows, pigs and other domesticated animals should be kept under lock and key.


Your goat should have the right not to walk funny...




Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Lauda on October 11, 2015, 01:55:44 AM
I've actually seen a sign that said 'no human is illegal' and I disagree with it. The countries and their borders are there for a reason. If I had to work my way to get where I'm right now then so should everyone else. I also do not feel like I should be paying a high tax rate just so that the country could waste money on such people either.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: bryant.coleman on October 11, 2015, 04:14:46 AM
I also do not feel like I should be paying a high tax rate just so that the country could waste money on such people either.

It will not be a problem if the refugees find some work and start paying their taxes. But as we have seen from the previous "refugee waves", these people either does not want to work, or does not possess the necessary skills to do work. And remember that they are good in demographic jihad as well. The women will give birth to a dozen children, which will put an enormous strain on the government resources.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Wilikon on October 11, 2015, 02:16:29 PM



‘Desperate’ Syrian Refugees Complain About Slow Internet, No Cigarettes, And Food Only Fit For A Dog…Or A Woman… (Video compilation)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_XHkgScOSY




Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: saddampbuh on October 11, 2015, 09:26:48 PM
another reason to like donald trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK9N-b_uUxA


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Wilikon on October 12, 2015, 03:22:19 PM



LiveLeak.com - Migrants Dump Garbage from their Balconies : Augsburg Asylum Center, Germany


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqXmpPMSDmU




Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Wilikon on October 13, 2015, 11:24:24 PM



German Migrants Sues Asylum Center For Not Giving Them Money Fast Enough


Twenty migrants have sued the Berlin State Office for Health and Social Affairs because they had to wait more than a week to register their asylum cases and receive welfare handouts. They are demanding instant payment.

Germany is struggling to cope with the 1.5 million migrants it expects to absorb this year and those arriving in Berlin often have to wait days if not weeks to be registered at asylum centres.

The group of twenty who have decided to sue claim they have had to wait more than a week. Their “urgent application” has been confirmed by a court spokesman, Die Welt reports.


http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/13/german-migrants-sue-asylum-centre-not-giving-money-fast-enough/




Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: vero on October 14, 2015, 06:23:59 AM



German Migrants Sues Asylum Center For Not Giving Them Money Fast Enough


Twenty migrants have sued the Berlin State Office for Health and Social Affairs because they had to wait more than a week to register their asylum cases and receive welfare handouts. They are demanding instant payment.

Germany is struggling to cope with the 1.5 million migrants it expects to absorb this year and those arriving in Berlin often have to wait days if not weeks to be registered at asylum centres.

The group of twenty who have decided to sue claim they have had to wait more than a week. Their “urgent application” has been confirmed by a court spokesman, Die Welt reports.


http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/13/german-migrants-sue-asylum-centre-not-giving-money-fast-enough/




I know Germans. Spent a lot of time in Hamburg. At first they were inclined to accept the Turkish migrants---until they found out what they were up to and how much it costs


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Nemo1024 on October 14, 2015, 04:03:10 PM
Two interesting articles about the flood of the refugees:

http://stanislavs.org/we-have-nothing-to-losethe-refugees-who-arrived-in-the-european-union-are-ready-to-revolt/
http://stanislavs.org/apocalypse-of-europespecial-report-from-the-flooded-by-refugees-austria/

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...Meanwhile, in the course of the conversation an interesting thing turns up. Khamis has lived in the camp “for displaced persons” in Turkey (Mardin province) for two years and did not think about Europe: for the smugglers took 10 000 dollars per person for transport by sea to Greece, while he had nowhere near that kind of money. So, there came to their camp some unknown to recruiters in July – they promised free shipping to Europe. One had to agree to the offer quickly and to go right away. ...



US refuses to receive PM Medvedev’s delegation to coordinate anti-terrorist actions in Syria
https://www.rt.com/news/318634-us-refusal-russian-delegation/

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Washington has refused to receive a Russian military delegation, headed by Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev, to discuss coordinated action on the fight against terrorism in Syria, Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has said.

“We have proposed to Americans what President Vladimir Putin informed the public about yesterday, namely, to send a delegation of military experts to Moscow to agree on a whole number of joint steps, afterwards we would be ready to send a high delegation led by Prime Minister Medvedev to Washington,” Lavrov told the Russian Parliament on Thursday.

"Today we were told that they will not be able to send a delegation to Moscow. At the same time, they are unable to receive our delegation in Washington," he added.

And newly USA bombed to smithereens a power plant and a transformer station in Aleppo. The pattern is the same as in Donbass, where US-backed Ukros hit primarily power plants, water pipes, hospitals, schools, and infrastructure/social objects


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Daniel91 on October 14, 2015, 04:18:26 PM



German Migrants Sues Asylum Center For Not Giving Them Money Fast Enough


Twenty migrants have sued the Berlin State Office for Health and Social Affairs because they had to wait more than a week to register their asylum cases and receive welfare handouts. They are demanding instant payment.

Germany is struggling to cope with the 1.5 million migrants it expects to absorb this year and those arriving in Berlin often have to wait days if not weeks to be registered at asylum centres.

The group of twenty who have decided to sue claim they have had to wait more than a week. Their “urgent application” has been confirmed by a court spokesman, Die Welt reports.


http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/13/german-migrants-sue-asylum-centre-not-giving-money-fast-enough/




I know Germans. Spent a lot of time in Hamburg. At first they were inclined to accept the Turkish migrants---until they found out what they were up to and how much it costs

Yes, everything is about money those days, even this refuges wants to go only to Germany and don't accept any other country.
I really worry what will happen in my country, Croatia, when Germany finally close its borders for refuges.
Many of this refuges will have to stay here and we are not prepared to receive them and take care about them.
It's such mess.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Lauda on October 14, 2015, 04:58:20 PM
Yes, everything is about money those days, even this refuges wants to go only to Germany and don't accept any other country.
I really worry what will happen in my country, Croatia, when Germany finally close its borders for refuges.
Many of this refuges will have to stay here and we are not prepared to receive them and take care about them.
It's such mess.
The solution is simple. Close the borders of EU and deport everyone illegal. Push them down and do not let anyone enter. If it were up to me we would not be having this problem. Germany should give 0€ to these people and you would see how their numbers would drop.

another reason to like donald trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK9N-b_uUxA
Actually the only reason to like him. His solution is much better than what the others are doing at the moment.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Wilikon on October 21, 2015, 11:47:25 PM



Mob of Afghans attack new arrivals at over-crowded Lesbos camp with sticks as Europe's worsening weather and tighter border controls force more migrants to head for Greece
Dozens of new arrivals to an over-crowded refugee camp in Lesbos were attacked with sticks by a mob of Afghans
Violence erupted as Greek authorities revealed the country had witnessed a surge in migrant arrivals in recent days
Fears about Europe's worsening weather and tighter border controls have caused more migrants to head for Greece
The UN refugee agency said it had registered a clear 'spike in arrivals' that left some 27,500 packed on Greek islands





http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3281532/Mob-Afghans-attack-new-arrivals-crowded-Lesbos-camp-sticks.html




Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: bryant.coleman on October 22, 2015, 02:23:53 AM
The solution is simple. Close the borders of EU and deport everyone illegal. Push them down and do not let anyone enter. If it were up to me we would not be having this problem. Germany should give 0€ to these people and you would see how their numbers would drop.

The individual countries does not have the sovereignty to close their borders or expel the migrants. They have to follow the directives from the European Union, which is dominated by the pro-immigrant nations such as Germany and Sweden. And currently Merkel is fooling her voters by claiming that they "need" these unwashed hordes to fill the manpower gap.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Wilikon on October 26, 2015, 03:45:50 PM



Swedish Migration Board Protects Refugee, Conceals Identity After Rape of 3 Year-Old



A male refugee in an asylum center in Tingsryd municipality in Sweden, on Tuesday raped a three-year-old child.

Responsible of the asylum center learned about the rape during the day, and in collaboration with the Swedish Migration Board had decided to move the man from the accommodation to protect him.

They had also chosen not to contact the police in order to conceal this incident.

However it was revealed when friends of the girl's mother contacted the police. Eight hours later.

But at the asylum center, the police could not get hold of the man, as he had been moved to another place, and employees at the asylum center were reluctant to tell the police of the man's new location, who he was, or any information at all.

According to a radio clip from Swedish Radio, the police had to contact a responsible in the Migration Board and force the truth from those in charge of the accommodation.

When such a serious crime, a rape of a three-year-old child, is being tried concealed by employees working with refugees, can you imagine how many less serious crimes they never report?


http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.2121/a-refugee-raped-a-three-year-old-child-the-migration-board-tried-to-conceal-the-incident.html


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What about the rights of the child? Pure madness



Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Lauda on October 26, 2015, 09:58:00 PM
Swedish Migration Board Protects Refugee, Conceals Identity After Rape of 3 Year-Old
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What about the rights of the child? Pure madness
Horrible story. Everyone who was concealing this information should be punished strictly. This should also be a lesson for all those deluded supporters of immigrants. This is going to happen to your friend, cousin, sister, mother. Do not blame anyone when it does, blame yourself.

The individual countries does not have the sovereignty to close their borders or expel the migrants. They have to follow the directives from the European Union, which is dominated by the pro-immigrant nations such as Germany and Sweden. And currently Merkel is fooling her voters by claiming that they "need" these unwashed hordes to fill the manpower gap.
Hungary was doing the right thing though in my opinion. I have not seen any updates related to it so I'm not sure what is going on (nor do I have time to do in depth research). You are right though. The directives of the EU are completely wrong in this case (unfortunately).


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: Wilikon on November 01, 2015, 04:05:49 PM



German Town Of 100 Gets Enriched By 750 Migrants


German government officials have compelled a small town with just 102 people to take in approximately 750 migrants from Syria and other countries, The New York Times wrote Saturday.

Sumte, a small town at the western fringe of the former East Germany, was informed earlier this month by its municipal government that it had been assigned to accept over a thousand of the asylum seekers that have poured into Germany over the course of 2015. The number was so high that mayor Christian Fabel first thought it was a joke, but after a storm of local protest, the figure was lowered to 750, not out of sympathy but because it was believed a thousand would overwhelm the town’s sewage system.

The municipal government plans to house migrants inside an abandoned office building, but other than that, services for them will be scarce. Sumte has no school, no shops, and extremely limited public transportation options. Residents have expressed fears that the migrants, who are disproportionately young men, will bring a crime wave that will make it unsafe to go outside. Officials have responded by saying it will still be perfectly safe to go out at night, because the town’s streetlights will stay lit.


http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/31/german-town-of-100-gets-enriched-by-750-migrants/



Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: zenitzz on November 01, 2015, 09:15:37 PM
No one has a workable immigration policy. Not the USA, not the EU, no one. Most countries haven't a clue how many illegal immigrants are even in their country, nor any way to find out. For decades every leadership body has given lip service to the issue and done nothing. America is deeply in debt, Europe is going broke, and in the end people need each other all around the world. What each nation needs to decide FIRST, is what THEIR people want, and then determine under what circumstances they will accept immigrants, migrants, and refugees….and stick to that policy. The biggest problem I see over and over again, is having no plan, no program, no agreement.


Title: Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved!
Post by: bryant.coleman on November 04, 2015, 02:52:30 PM
No one has a workable immigration policy. Not the USA, not the EU, no one.

Quite a few countries do have sensible immigration policies. In Asia, you can take the example of Japan, Taiwan and South Korea. And in the Europe, you can take the example of Poland, Czech Republic and Slovakia. All these countries have managed to attract skilled and qualified immigrants, and at the same time, they have rejected the welfare rats and criminals.