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Good girl.

Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that's it.

In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.

When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force. The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gangbanger, and a single gay guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.

There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we'd be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger's potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat--it has no validity when most of a mugger's potential marks are armed. People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that's the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.

Then there's the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser. People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don't constitute lethal force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level. The gun is the only weapon that's as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weightlifter. It simply wouldn't work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal and easily employable.

When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation...and that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act.

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[The suspect Stacey] Jones was also arrested back in September of 2011 for allegedly abducting a 17-year-old girl with a diminished mental capacity.

This is why I trained my daughters to keep shooting until the threat stops moving.

Hollywood teaches people that one bullet kills bad guys.  That is a dangerous belief.

I think it depends on the caliber, I would think something like a .308 rifle will pretty much 1 shot 1 kill, or at least disable the guy with one shot. Though any hand gun caliber would definite not do it.

I think it depends on the caliber, I would think something like a .308 rifle will pretty much 1 shot 1 kill, or at least disable the guy with one shot. Though any hand gun caliber would definite not do it.

October 22, 2012 (GARY, Ind.) (WLS) -- Last Friday, Jerry Hood, 48, of Gary, Ind., left work and decided to go home during lunchtime. Gary police said Hood, who was with a co-worker, noticed activity in his house and called police for help, but did not wait for police to arrive. Instead he went in and lost his life when he disrupted a home invasion, police say. Hood died from multiple gunshot wounds.

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local/indiana&id=8856120

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local/indiana&id=8856120

What's your point and what do the two stories have to do with each other?

Nothing and nothing?

So, both stories support the idea that having a gun in the home can prevent successful home invasions? Got it! Thanks for clearing that up for me.

That's self-defense at its finest, as long as they both get out okay and the attacker learns their lesson that's more than you can ask for..... Too bad gun control advocates would never pay attention to anything like this.

the hell is a 'gary man' (a city named Gary)

anyway...we dont ever hear on the news:

"Man shot in altercation, family happy because man wasn't a good person"

Good girl.

Well, she did miss his heart.  lol

Well, she did miss his heart.  lol

It is hard to hit such a small target through a closed door. What she was trying to do was to get him to leave her alone, that seems to have worked out according to her plan. I am sure if the assailant had continued opening the door even after being shot at, then she would have had a clearer shot to finish him off.

I was just kidding. In reality perhaps she should be charged with reckless endangerment for taking a blind shot?

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I was just kidding. In reality perhaps she should be charged with reckless endangerment for taking a blind shot?

Sometimes I have troubles understanding other peers, who's side you're on?

The guy was already trespassing a private property, and the girl knew there wasn't any other family member in the house. She used her other senses to decide when to pull the trigger like her hearing for example, which I assume you don't have after seeing such comments.

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I was just kidding. In reality perhaps she should be charged with reckless endangerment for taking a blind shot?

I guess in theory, it could have been a cop or family friend who'd scared off the intruder and come to check she was OK. No harm, no foul in my opinion though.

I've heard variation on it to be honest. "We always knew it would be something like this..."

Oh she put the intruder in danger by not shooting him in the open? Brilliant.

She put everyone around her in danger by shooting at what she thought was an intruder. Good thing luck was on her side.

She put everyone around her in danger by shooting at what she thought was an intruder. Good thing luck was on her side.

She is a child who may well have saved herself. More power to her.
I'm just saying that if a cop had done this, he would be facing charges. Here in Wisconsin I assume I would go to jail for these actions. You can stop a threat to your life, but you can't shoot through a door at a scary noise. At least I think that's correct.

I'm just saying that if a cop had done this, he would be facing charges.

Cops are (rightly) held to higher standards than 12 year old girls alone in their home with an intruder.

In principle.

Fair point. ;)

My understanding is that I could shoot only to stop an attack that could reasonably said to be an attack on my life. In court you will need to show how your life was in danger. In some states just breaking in is enough, in other states it is not.
If you keep a gun for protection you should be practicing shooting monthly at the least. You should mark out your firring positions and know what is behind them. If you do these things an attacker has little chance. They will be in an unknown place facing unknown forces. And don't hide. Hiding moves you to a crappy position, make the other guy try to hide. Lastly, don't show your gun or threaten them with it. It is for killing,  not tough talk. If you need the gun,  yell surprise!! and don't stop shooting until the attacker is done for.