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Title: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: galdur on October 25, 2015, 07:08:28 PM
SJ sends us a link to a story from Pageland, South Carolina about Brent Nicholson of Union County, North Carolina who was arrested for being in possession of more than 10,000 stolen firearms;

“His name always popped up regarding stolen property and we finally got enough info for a search warrant,” Brooks said.

Sheriffs deputies in Union County also had their eyes on Nicholson.

They said several cases involving stolen guns lead back to him.

Investigators believe he was buying the stolen guns and hoarding them.

But they don’t think he was re-selling them.

The sheriff says that he’ll work to return the stolen weapons to their owners which is unique in this day and age, but it looks like the BATFE is now involved, so I’m sure they’ll do their best to prevent that from happening.

http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=62444

http://www.wcti12.com/news/officials-arrest-man-after-almost-10000-stolen-guns-found-in-home/36033510


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: eyeknock on October 25, 2015, 07:43:39 PM
Investigators believe he was buying the stolen guns and hoarding them.

But they don’t think he was re-selling them.

lol i didn't understood it very well, is an strange news, so he just want to buy it to remove them from the streets or something like that?, like a good soul?



Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: galdur on October 25, 2015, 08:06:12 PM
Investigators believe he was buying the stolen guns and hoarding them.

But they don’t think he was re-selling them.

lol i didn't understood it very well, is an strange news, so he just want to buy it to remove them from the streets or something like that?, like a good soul?



Well, he also had like 150 chain saws among other things. Maybe he really likes stuff.  ;D

http://wbtv.images.worldnow.com/images/9091856_G.jpg


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: beepboopbeep on October 25, 2015, 08:18:36 PM
He was going to sit on them until the zombie apocalypse and then sell them to survivors.


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: ridery99 on October 25, 2015, 08:21:55 PM
He was going to sit on them until the zombie apocalypse and then sell them to survivors.

awesome.


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: Spendulus on October 26, 2015, 09:31:06 PM
He was going to sit on them until the zombie apocalypse and then sell them to survivors.

awesome.
Because guns must be hoarded.  Because one day you might jest need them.

So 10,000 criminals have had to go without guns.

And they arrest HIM.

Gotta ponder that one...


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: galdur on October 26, 2015, 10:03:49 PM
Monday morning feel good stories

In Baltimore, Maryland, 24-year-old Randy Thomas was enriching himself, and his unnamed partner, by robbing patrons in a bar. When the bartender said that he was going to call police, Thomas reached in his pocket. The bartender shot Thomas who then left the bar and walked to the hospital alone. There is no word on his condition, and his partner is in the wind.

In Jacksonville, Florida, two men approached a pizza-delivery guy and demanded his money. Instead, the pizza guy shot one of the thieves who is in the hospital with serious injuries and his partner is in the wind.


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: galdur on October 26, 2015, 10:29:02 PM
New Mexico man kills 'zombie' friend after binge-watching Walking Dead

Damon Perry told investigators he had been drinking large amounts of alcohol and watching the AMC show when his friend began to ‘change into a zombie’

Reuters in Albuquerque
Monday 26 October 2015 18.07 GMT

A New Mexico man who had been watching the hit TV series The Walking Dead beat his friend to death because he believed the victim was turning into a zombie, police said on Monday.

Damon Perry, 23, of Prewitt, New Mexico, is charged with murder after allegedly attacking Christopher Paquin, also 23, with kicks, punches, sharp-edged objects and items including a guitar and a microwave oven, police said.

The pair had been binge-watching episodes of the popular AMC show, which centers on a zombie apocalypse, according to police in the small town of Grants, about 80 miles (130 km) west of Albuquerque.

Officers were called to an apartment there last Thursday afternoon after receiving reports that an intoxicated, knife-wielding man was chasing a woman, the police department said.

When they arrived, they found two maintenance workers pinning Perry to the ground, and then discovered Paquin’s body. The victim was pronounced dead at the scene by paramedics.

“Perry told investigators he had been drinking large amounts of alcohol when his friend began to change into a zombie,” the police department said in a statement.

Grants police detective Moses Marquez said the murder was one of the “weirdest and most gruesome” homicides he had known.

Perry is being held at the Cibola County detention center on $800,000 cash only bond, Marquez told Reuters.

Perry’s attorney could not immediately be reached for comment. A preliminary hearing in the case is set for 3 November.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/26/new-mexico-man-beats-friend-zombie-walking-dead


Title: Dog Named Trigger Shoots Man in Foot
Post by: Spendulus on October 26, 2015, 11:39:42 PM
Monday morning feel good stories

In Baltimore, Maryland, 24-year-old Randy Thomas was enriching himself, and his unnamed partner, by robbing patrons in a bar. When the bartender said that he was going to call police, Thomas reached in his pocket. The bartender shot Thomas who then left the bar and walked to the hospital alone. There is no word on his condition, and his partner is in the wind.

In Jacksonville, Florida, two men approached a pizza-delivery guy and demanded his money. Instead, the pizza guy shot one of the thieves who is in the hospital with serious injuries and his partner is in the wind.

www.abc-7.com/story/30350835/dog-named-trigger-shoots-owner-during-waterfowl-hunt#.


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: skeet on October 27, 2015, 06:57:36 AM
Everyone in the area knew these folks were outlaws for a long time. Some kind of cahoots with the local sheriff was in place. They finally crossed somebody high profile, that's all. These people's activities were unknown and hiding all this time? Not!


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: galdur on October 27, 2015, 07:11:57 AM
Everyone in the area knew these folks were outlaws for a long time. Some kind of cahoots with the local sheriff was in place. They finally crossed somebody high profile, that's all. These people's activities were unknown and hiding all this time? Not!

Yeah, and they were dealing heroin and other shit. So probably kickbacks and other arrangements. You´re right; somebody finally had enough.


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: kydranel on October 27, 2015, 07:24:43 AM
SJ sends us a link to a story from Pageland, South Carolina about Brent Nicholson of Union County, North Carolina who was arrested for being in possession of more than 10,000 stolen firearms;

“His name always popped up regarding stolen property and we finally got enough info for a search warrant,” Brooks said.

Sheriffs deputies in Union County also had their eyes on Nicholson.

They said several cases involving stolen guns lead back to him.

Investigators believe he was buying the stolen guns and hoarding them.

But they don’t think he was re-selling them.

The sheriff says that he’ll work to return the stolen weapons to their owners which is unique in this day and age, but it looks like the BATFE is now involved, so I’m sure they’ll do their best to prevent that from happening.

http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=62444

http://www.wcti12.com/news/officials-arrest-man-after-almost-10000-stolen-guns-found-in-home/36033510
was was the occupation of that man??was he a politician? or business man?


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: Snail2 on October 27, 2015, 08:35:02 AM
Pretty good investment :). Perhaps better than bitcoin in some cases.


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: vero on October 27, 2015, 12:49:43 PM
Soooo... is that 7-10,000 counts of theft of a Firearm, and will this guy and his parents go to prison on a sentence of 1,000 years each?? Most likely not - just another Druggie that will get a hand slap...


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: zenitzz on October 27, 2015, 08:01:03 PM
This guy has to be very well known in the criminal community, as someone who will buy or trade stolen guns and other items, for cash, or more likely, for drugs...I wouldn't doubt they will discover many weapons were stolen from other states as well...It's guys like this that fuel burglaries, the illegal gun trade, killings, and addicts... It's just how it works in that world


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: galdur on October 27, 2015, 08:22:08 PM
Looks like they were robbing hunters and hunting clubs. Almost all of the weapons were shotguns and hunting rifles. There were 250-300 taxidermy mounts, crossbows, ammunition, tools, air compressors and 4-wheelers. And 150 chain saws. Amazing.





Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: KezzleS on October 27, 2015, 10:03:10 PM
10000 firearms... I'd love to have at least 1/100 of what he had :D


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: countryfree on October 27, 2015, 11:12:46 PM
I wonder what the guy was doing for a living. Because buying 10,000 guns, that's a substantial investment, even if buying cheap stolen goods. $20 a piece? That's $200,000. You can buy a nice house for that kind of money. It would have been a better choice.


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: galdur on October 27, 2015, 11:27:42 PM
He has been charged with trafficking in heroin and opium and has a lengthy record according to the sheriff.
And he runs a liquor store with his father.


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: christycalhoun on October 28, 2015, 12:27:36 AM
He has been charged with trafficking in heroin and opium and has a lengthy record according to the sheriff.
And he runs a liquor store with his father.
Sounds like a very classy guy. He has to be innocent. :D


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: danel on October 28, 2015, 01:24:30 AM
I am just curious how one steals 10 thousand guns and doesn't sell any what was the point?


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: Spendulus on October 28, 2015, 09:38:42 PM
This guy has to be very well known in the criminal community, as someone who will buy or trade stolen guns and other items, for cash, or more likely, for drugs...I wouldn't doubt they will discover many weapons were stolen from other states as well...It's guys like this that fuel burglaries, the illegal gun trade, killings, and addicts... It's just how it works in that world

You mean, sort of like our BATF in their Fast and Furious scandal, where they were selling assault rifles to Mexican gangs?  (Which are still killing people, incidentally)

Wait, this guy never sold anyone a weapon....


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: galdur on October 28, 2015, 09:55:42 PM
Wednesday morning feel good stories

First up this morning is Phoenix, Arizona where an armed private security guard interrupted a robbery in an auto-parts store. The thief un-assed the AO to his getaway car, but, he couldn’t leave well-enough alone. He pointed his firearm at the guard, but the guard was faster on the draw and made the thief DRT (dead right there).

In Orlando Florida, Tyrell Owens was toting his case of beer home when, outside his apartment he was confronted by an armed thief, Wilmar Jolteus, who demanded his beer. Owens wouldn’t give it up and Jolteus fired his weapon at Owens. Lucky for Owens, he had his own firearm and a permit to carry it concealed and he was able to dive for cover and return fire, striking Jolteus who un-assed the AO and, after a couple of trips and falls, jumped in his partner’s car. His partner dropped Jolteus at the hospital where he was arrested with wounds to his leg and buttocks. Orlando PD praised Owens for his quick thinking.

In Union County, South Carolina, Ralph Rice was awakened by a knock at his door. On his porch was four men, one of whom suffered from a gunshot. They asked Ralph for help for their wounded buddy. Then they dumped the injured man in a chair on Ralph’s porch and thanked him for calling the ambulance before they un-assed the AO. Apparently the man was shot in an exchange of gunfire with a homeowner in Winnsboro, South Carolina. I can’t find the article of the home invasion (there’s no accounting for local news directors’ preferences for news). So here’s the story of Ralph instead.

In Manchester, New Hampshire, Dawn Kahwaja a clerk at the local convenience store was confronted by a thief with a 3″ knife. She did a Crocodile Dundee and pulled out her own pig sticker which frightened off the criminal. “Now, that’s a noif!” Dawn’s advice to the criminal is “get a job!”

DocV sends us a link from Chicago, Illinois where former member of the UK’s Royal Air Force, and current student in Minneapolis, Neil McCarthy was with his girlfriend in the Windy City when they were confronted by three thugs who demanded their stuff. McCarthy handed it over, but they began accosting his girlfriend so he took their knife away after suffering a shoulder wound. then he chased after one of them who was cuffed and stuffed by the local PD.

http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=62502


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: galdur on October 28, 2015, 10:14:36 PM
Yeah, that´s a knife. Nice job Dawn.

http://www.wwmt.com/news/features/national/stories/-Armed-robber-laughed-out-of-convenience-store-224364.shtml#.VjFJZLfhDUI

https://cbsboston.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/clerk.jpg


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: frank26 on October 29, 2015, 01:23:38 PM
There are thousands of weapon found in South Carolina.It started with a tip to authorities and ended with a raid at a South Carolina home, where investigators found thousands of weapons stashed inside.Now 51-year-old Brent Nicholson is behind bars on charges of possession of stolen property.The raid began Friday and continued over the weekend.


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: galdur on October 30, 2015, 05:48:28 AM
Man walks into jail, admits murder, gets turned away

11:27 a.m. EDT October 29, 2015

(NEWSER) — One cannot simply walk into the Santa Clara County jail, apparently.

Hugo Ernesto Castro tried to surrender at the facility in San Jose on Monday, but he was told to go elsewhere even after he had confessed to stabbing his ex-girlfriend and handed over a note revealing where her body was, reports the San Jose Mercury News. A deputy at the prison told the 28-year-old that he was in the wrong place and instructed him to walk two blocks to police headquarters, which he obligingly did. Police found the body of Castro's former girlfriend at the address he gave, and he was arrested, reports the San Francisco Chronicle.

The sheriff's office is trying to find out why the deputy didn't follow standard procedure and detain Castro or at least escort him to the police station.

"Once they leave, who knows what's going to happen next," a retired San Francisco police captain tells the Mercury News. "Maybe they go the two blocks and turn themselves in. Or maybe they have second thoughts, or go home and destroy evidence."

The deputy has been reassigned, the Mercury News reports, and Castro is now being held at the jail he went to in the first place.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/10/29/man-walks-into-jail-admits-murder-gets-turned-away/74798964/


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: Avarosan on October 30, 2015, 02:05:39 PM
Well what else are you gonna do with a bunch of guns? You either are going to use them or re-sell them for a good price


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: galdur on October 30, 2015, 04:16:52 PM
A lesson on what not to do comes out of East Mill Creek, Utah where 34-year-old Jesse L. Bruner tried to break into a home owned by 47-year-old Russell Reed Jacobs. Bruner was armed with a shotgun and Jacobs had his own firearm. Jacobs convinced Bruner to turn tail and run, but then Jacobs and his son chased his for a few blocks when Bruner turned and fired at Jacobs. Jacobs returned fire and both the criminal and the victim died right there. There was no rational reason for the homeowner to chase after the criminal – that’s what the police get paid to do with their body armor and everything....

https://localtvkstu.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/jacobs-fam1-e1446138136411.jpg?w=540

https://localtvkstu.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/bruner-jesse-l-so-239200-feb-2015-mug.jpg?w=384


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: RodeoX on October 30, 2015, 04:26:19 PM
A lesson on what not to do comes out of East Mill Creek, Utah where 34-year-old Jesse L. Bruner tried to break into a home owned by 47-year-old Russell Reed Jacobs. Bruner was armed with a shotgun and Jacobs had his own firearm. Jacobs convinced Bruner to turn tail and run, but then Jacobs and his son chased his for a few blocks when Bruner turned and fired at Jacobs. Jacobs returned fire and both the criminal and the victim died right there. There was no rational reason for the homeowner to chase after the criminal – that’s what the police get paid to do with their body armor and everything....

Mr. Jacobs may be lucky he got shot instead of life in jail. Chasing a robber and shooting him is murder. You can "stand your ground" in most states, but you can't go after a fleeing attacker. As you point out, that is a job for the cops.


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: TheButterZone on October 30, 2015, 07:13:35 PM
A lesson on what not to do comes out of East Mill Creek, Utah where 34-year-old Jesse L. Bruner tried to break into a home owned by 47-year-old Russell Reed Jacobs. Bruner was armed with a shotgun and Jacobs had his own firearm. Jacobs convinced Bruner to turn tail and run, but then Jacobs and his son chased his for a few blocks when Bruner turned and fired at Jacobs. Jacobs returned fire and both the criminal and the victim died right there. There was no rational reason for the homeowner to chase after the criminal – that’s what the police get paid to do with their body armor and everything....

Mr. Jacobs may be lucky he got shot instead of life in jail. Chasing a robber and shooting him is murder. You can "stand your ground" in most states, but you can't go after a fleeing attacker. As you point out, that is a job for the cops.

We conclude that such force may not be used unless it is necessary to prevent the escape and the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others.

If it's not justified for a civilian to shoot a clearly armed fleeing felon under the same fundamental circumstances as LEOs specified in the ruling above, then fuck equal protection. Non-suicidal criminals drop their weapons and run.


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: galdur on October 30, 2015, 07:43:40 PM
It makes no sense to chase the guy. Well, unless it´s a desperate emergency like he´s leaving with your 2 yo daughter under his arm, something like that.

You don´t leave the fort after you´ve secured it. He could have accomplishes that you´re not aware of that´ll invade after you´ve been diverted away. Stay safe.


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: RodeoX on October 30, 2015, 08:19:31 PM
A lesson on what not to do comes out of East Mill Creek, Utah where 34-year-old Jesse L. Bruner tried to break into a home owned by 47-year-old Russell Reed Jacobs. Bruner was armed with a shotgun and Jacobs had his own firearm. Jacobs convinced Bruner to turn tail and run, but then Jacobs and his son chased his for a few blocks when Bruner turned and fired at Jacobs. Jacobs returned fire and both the criminal and the victim died right there. There was no rational reason for the homeowner to chase after the criminal – that’s what the police get paid to do with their body armor and everything....

Mr. Jacobs may be lucky he got shot instead of life in jail. Chasing a robber and shooting him is murder. You can "stand your ground" in most states, but you can't go after a fleeing attacker. As you point out, that is a job for the cops.

We conclude that such force may not be used unless it is necessary to prevent the escape and the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others.

If it's not justified for a civilian to shoot a clearly armed fleeing felon under the same fundamental circumstances as LEOs specified in the ruling above, then fuck equal protection. Non-suicidal criminals drop their weapons and run.
This is one of the different standards between a licensed concealed carrier and a cop. A cop is expected to go looking for trouble and chase down criminals. A CC licenses only allows you to protect yourself or someone in your "immediate presence".  You can't chase them, and in states without the castle doctrine (a.k.a. -stand your ground law) you MUST run away. Even if the attacker is in your home, you have to flee. If you stay and fight you might spend the rest of your life in jail.
This is why the castle doctrine is so important.

It makes no sense to chase the guy. Well, unless it´s a desperate emergency like he´s leaving with your 2 yo daughter under his arm, something like that.

You don´t leave the fort after you´ve secured it. He could have accomplishes that you´re not aware of that´ll invade after you´ve been diverted away. Stay safe.

The two year old kidnapping may work as a defense. You could protect her if it is reasonable to think her life is in danger. A strange abduction is likely to meet that bar. If instead it was a rape then you have no right to shoot. This seems to surprise a lot of people, but rape is not necessarily life threatening. If a woman shoots some guy who is trying to rape her then she is a murderer.  You can use deadly force to protect your life, not your chastity.


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: TheButterZone on October 30, 2015, 09:43:52 PM
That's one of the most repugnant things I've ever read. Cite all your assertions to the contrary of actual justifiable homicide determinations or perish.


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: galdur on October 30, 2015, 10:48:08 PM
The first time Russell Jacobs knew Jesse Lyle Bruner was carrying a sawed-off shotgun was when the man turned to face him and pulled the trigger, police said Friday.

Bruner, 34, and "Rusty" Jacobs, 47, both died after shooting each other at very close range about 2 a.m. Thursday near 3700 South and 3100 East.

The lethal events began when Bruner tried to kick in Jacobs' front door. Unified Police Lt. Lex Bell said investigators believe Jacobs' house was chosen for an unknown reason, completely at random.

"It could have been any house on that street," Bell said.

Jacobs, a father of four, was in the house asleep, with his wife and an 18-year-old son. The three were the only ones home at the time, police said.

"Mr. Jacobs armed himself with a .45 and a flashlight and ran to the front door to see who was trying to break in. When the pounding on the door stopped, Mr. Jacobs, his wife and his 18-year-old son went outside to see if it was a prank but found no one in their yard. When they returned to their front door, they noticed shoe prints on the door where someone had tried to kick it in," Bell said.

Jacobs' wife called 911 to report the incident.

Jacobs then went back into his house, got dressed and got his .357 handgun, "because he trusted the .357 more, and he was concerned there might be a threat to his family and not a prank. Once dressed, Mr. Jacobs opened the front door to look around the yard again with the flashlight in his hand," Bell said.

After several minutes of searching his yard, Bruner appeared and started walking toward Jacobs "feigning an injury to his leg and asking to come inside," the lieutenant said.

Investigators speculated Friday that Bruner was holding his single-shot, sawed-off shotgun, which measured just under 2 feet, to his side and was pretending he had an injured leg to conceal it.

Believing he was the man who just attempted to kick in his door, Jacobs confronted Bruner to protect his family, according to Bell.

Recently, leaders in Jacobs' LDS ward had warned neighbors about burglaries in the area, Bell said. They believed that two homeless men, one of them being Bruner, were responsible. As of Friday, Unified police could not confirm whether Bruner was responsible for any recent car or home burglaries in the area.

Jacobs was "concerned for the rest of the neighborhood," the lieutenant said. "Mr. Jacobs followed Mr. Bruner as he walked north in the street, pointing a flashlight at him."

About four houses down the block, Jacobs said something to Bruner to the effect that he knew who he was, according to Bell. Bruner responded by saying something similar to, "So what if I am?"

Just as he said that, Bell said, Bruner fired his shotgun.

"The blast hit Mr. Jacobs’ outstretched left hand and flashlight first and then went into his chest. Mr. Jacobs then returned fire, shooting four shots at Mr. Bruner. Mr. Bruner was hit once through his arm and into his chest. Two shots went through his clothing in the stomach area but did not hit his body, and the fourth shot missed entirely," he said.

Jacobs' son, who had followed his father into the street, witnessed both shootings.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865640282/Homeowner-was-unaware-intruder-had-gun-until-shots-were-fired-police-say.html



Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: galdur on October 31, 2015, 11:35:50 AM
Toledo (13abc Action News) - Police release the 911 call of a gun owner who shot an armed robber.

Caller: I turned around and he said don't move don't move. I saw something in his hand, but I didn't give him a chance to try and shoot me first.

The victim 21-year old Terrance Reid says he came home from work and that's when Antonio Hadley tried to rob him. Instead Hadley got the shock of his life. Reid is a licensed gun owner. He shot the suspect one time.

Dispatcher: you said you shot at him?
Caller: Yeah.
Dispatcher: But you don't know if he's shot?
Caller: I think I hit him. I heard him say aw.

Police say the suspect later went to a local hospital for treatment for a gunshot wound to the stomach. Everyday Toledo police investigate robberies and break-ins. The victim's mother told 13abc her son bought a gun and got a permit this year after two break-ins on their street. Once Reid shot the man he immediately called 9-1-1.
The suspect is charged with robbery.

http://www.13abc.com/home/headlines/911--338483832.html


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: Spendulus on October 31, 2015, 10:22:10 PM
Toledo (13abc Action News) - Police release the 911 call of a gun owner who shot an armed robber.

Caller: I turned around and he said don't move don't move. I saw something in his hand, but I didn't give him a chance to try and shoot me first.

The victim 21-year old Terrance Reid says he came home from work and that's when Antonio Hadley tried to rob him. Instead Hadley got the shock of his life. Reid is a licensed gun owner. He shot the suspect one time.

Dispatcher: you said you shot at him?
Caller: Yeah.
Dispatcher: But you don't know if he's shot?
Caller: I think I hit him. I heard him say aw.

Police say the suspect later went to a local hospital for treatment for a gunshot wound to the stomach. Everyday Toledo police investigate robberies and break-ins. The victim's mother told 13abc her son bought a gun and got a permit this year after two break-ins on their street. Once Reid shot the man he immediately called 9-1-1.
The suspect is charged with robbery.

http://www.13abc.com/home/headlines/911--338483832.html

Wait...you mean the homeowner hurt a poor, defenseless, innocent robber?

And he said "awww!"?

That's sooo mean.

What's a robber to do these days?



Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: galdur on November 01, 2015, 08:13:59 AM
Police: Fleeing bank robber threatens man with spatula

5:16 p.m. EDT October 30, 2015

Police arrested a 33-year-old Broward County man after they say he robbed a Wells Fargo and broke into a home armed with a spatula.

Brandon Stepherson, of Hollywood, was arrested on an unarmed robbery charge by the Fort Myers Police Department and armed home invasion count by the Lee County Sheriff's Office.

Stepherson was nabbed by K-9 units outside the house where the home invasion occurred 24 minutes after authorities say he robbed the Wells Fargo at 9250 Ben C. Pratt/Six Mile Cypress Parkway about 5:40 p.m. Wednesday

A man at the home told investigators that went inside the Old Hickory Boulevard house after smoking on the back porch when he found Stepherson standing in his kitchen, according to a sheriff's office arrest report.

He said that Stepherson demanded the keys to the car parked out front, but the man said he didn't have the keys.

Stepherson started pulling keys off the hook on the wall before he "armed himself with a plastic spatula and used a set of keys as a weapon (between his knuckles,)" the report said.

Stepherson then said to the man: "I don't want to hurt you, give me the keys to the car," the report said.

The men started yelling at each other and Stepherson tackled him to the ground. Another man in the house joined in on the fight and Stepherson ran out of the home, one of the men flagged down an officer, who arrested Stepherson.

Between the charges from the two different agencies, Stepherson is being held on a total of $350,000 bond.

The Florida Highway Patrol and FBI helped with the investigation.

http://www.news-press.com/story/news/crime/2015/10/30/wells-fargo-bank-robbed-fort-myers-police-detain-person/74770068/


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: galdur on November 01, 2015, 08:18:39 AM
Police: Customer with concealed carry license kills robber at corner store

A robbery was thwarted at a Southwest Side corner store Saturday night when a patron with a concealed carry license shot and killed an armed robber, authorities said.

Citing preliminary information, police said a man walked into a store in the 2700 block of West 51st Street in the Gage Park neighborhood around 7 p.m., announced a robbery to an employee working behind the counter and displayed a handgun.

Another employee came from the back of the store and the gunman pointed his weapon at her, police said. He then made her go to the back of the store, which also serves as a currency exchange.

After that, a customer who was also inside the business pulled out a gun and opened fire at the robber, killing him, police said. The robber was believed to be in his 40s, police said.

Police said the shooter has a valid concealed carry license and a valid firearm owner's identification card.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-1-dead-in-shooting-at-gage-park-business-20151031-story.html



Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: isvicre on November 01, 2015, 10:20:53 AM
I am just curious how one steals 10 thousand guns and doesn't sell any what was the point?
Maybe this guy had gun fetish? I mean world is huge and there are lots of weird people everywhere.
He might have been using it at home for basically as a hobby.


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: galdur on November 01, 2015, 01:29:38 PM
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/wqtbm5/picture41864994/ALTERNATES/FREE_960/TheGunMan_03.JPG

Among one of the largest gun seizures in the Carolinas, investigators are finding oddities in the mountain of stuff taken from a Pageland man that range from an 1873 Springfield “trapdoor” rifle – the kind that George Custer’s troops used ineffectively at Little Bighorn – to a taxidermied alligator.

And then they had to tackle two more tractor-trailers stuffed top to bottom, front to back with hundreds of chainsaws, tools and tool boxes, fishing gear, hunting bows and taxidermied elk, deer, beavers, ducks, boars, turkeys and squirrels.

They are among the things that authorities believe Nicholson either stole or bought from people who had done the stealing. Most of it he piled in his brick house, steel storage building and the family liquor store in Pageland, about 16 miles south of Monroe, just over the South Carolina border, said Chesterfield County Sheriff Jay Brooks.

Estimates of how many guns have swung wildly from 4,000 to 10,000, but Brooks now figures it’s more like 5,000 to 6,000 – most are shotguns and hunting rifles. They also retrieved eight pallets of ammunition.

Authorities estimate the total value of the stash at more than $500,000.

“We think that 99 percent of these guns were brought to Mr. Nicholson to sell to him. He’d give you 40 to 100 bucks for it and take it and throw it into a pile of 200 more,” said Brooks, taking a break from the sorting out that will use up “a good chunk” of his office’s $3.2 million annual budget.

Nicholson, 51, who helped his father in the Pageland liquor store, had been charged before with receiving stolen property, along with other charges that include assault and battery, threatening people and ill treatment of animals, records show. Most of the charges were dismissed or weren’t prosecuted.

“I’m not sure why Brent thought he needed this many guns, why he wanted this many guns,” Brooks said. “He just seemed to be more of a hoarder. He hunted a little bit, but you can only use one gun at a time.”

“We believe this seizure in Pageland is historic,” Brooks said.

Days later, it was still the talk of Pageland, a town of 2,800 best known for its annual Watermelon Festival.

“Everybody’s talking about it,” said Mary Ann Nicholson, no relation to Brent. “But if anybody knew about it – about all those guns – nobody’s telling.”

Brent Nicholson and his family are well-known. But those who spoke about Brent declined to give their names.

One woman said Brent is “a likeable man” who was known to collect guns and avidly hunt. “But I didn’t know it was that many guns,” she said. “I don’t think anybody knew.”

She said he was also known to “help people who needed money to pay rent or bills. He’d tell them to bring him something of value – sort of a collateral – and when they paid him back, they’d get their property back.”

No one seems to think Nicholson used the guns, or even sold them. Some of the rifle barrels were rusting.

“You never know a person’s intentions, but if you’d seen the way those guns were all piled up and disorganized, it seems unlikely he had plans to use them,” said Chesterfield Sheriff’s Capt. Daniel Scott. ....more

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article41865006.html#storylink=cpy


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: galdur on November 01, 2015, 02:22:15 PM
Sunday morning feel good stories

In Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, police spotted a stolen car at a gas station, the thief had seen them first so he high-tailed it out of the area. He ended up in Steve Dildine’s bedroom. Steve got his firearm and held the criminal until police arrived to haul him off to the hoosegow.

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“He was right here when I put my gun on him, and then he screamed,” said Dildine. “I guess he thought I was actually going to shoot him.”

The suspect ran trying to get out of the home, but Steve didn't let him get away.

“I told him to keep his hands where I could see him,” said Dildine.

He walked up to the suspect, put an arm behind his back and walked him outside where he was arrested by Oklahoma City officers.

“You just don’t think that that’s going to happen to you. If I didn’t have a weapon, I could have been a dead guy if that guy had a weapon,” said Dildine. “You don’t know. You never know.”

In Harris County, Texas, four fellows tried to force their way into a home. That’s not a good idea in Harris County, Texas, since that’s where a lot of our feel good stories happen. It worked for a little while because the fellows held the family at gun point while they collected up their booty, but as soon as their backs were turned, the homeowner grabbed his own gun and lit them up while they made their getaway and hit one of the four. Police are currently looking for the other three.


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: galdur on November 01, 2015, 08:25:14 PM
Halloween Shooting Spree

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkM7fm2O9Gc


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: zenitzz on November 01, 2015, 09:04:55 PM
10,000 guns that's a lot of break ins. I wonder if he is one of those people who dispose of weapons for criminals. I would run the ballistics on every one of those fire arms and see if they come back to any unsolved murders.


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: Coinonomous on November 02, 2015, 12:18:21 AM
10,000 guns that's a lot of break ins. I wonder if he is one of those people who dispose of weapons for criminals. I would run the ballistics on every one of those fire arms and see if they come back to any unsolved murders.


Imagine how much taxpayer money that will waste/cost? Shit... damn guns. crazy usa!?


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: galdur on November 02, 2015, 06:09:32 PM
Monday morning feel good stories

In Helena, Arkansas, four men pretended to be trick-or-treaters, they forced their way into the home with their shotgun leading the way. The homeowner was in his easy chair when that happened, so he reached in the chair and pulled out his handgun and fired once. The four goblins un-assed the AO unharmed leaving their shotgun and a rifle behind.

In Reading, Pennsylvania, three masked and armed men went to do some late night shopping at a market. They fired one round to establish their line of credit. Unfortunately for them, two late-night employees were also armed. They made one of the thieves DRT (dead right there) and another was DOT (dead over there) at the hospital, the third is in the wind.


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: 1990BEARS on November 03, 2015, 06:23:02 AM
wow what a story, i wonder how often small break ins happen, to total 10k guns!


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: galdur on November 03, 2015, 02:11:14 PM
Tuesday morning feel good stories

In Lake Dunlap, Texas a homeowner sent an intruder to the hospital. He called the police to report a possible burglary, but in the intervening moments, before the police arrived, he shot the fellow in order to protect himself.

In Thorton, Colorado, a homeowner got in a fire fight with three burglars, killed one of them and held the others at gunpoint until the police arrived and the police just arrested everyone, including the homeowner, because…Colorado!
"We don't know who fired what shots yet, but we do know the homeowner fired upon the intruders. We are still trying to determine a motive for the robbery," Police spokesman Matt Barnes said.

Here´s a clue Sherlock, they wanted to steal the guy´s stuff.

Meanwhile, in San Antonio, Texas a woman was being robbed outside her boyfriend’s apartment. She notified her boyfriend who grabbed his firearm to lend aid to the victim. When one of the thieves turned to confront the boy friend, he shot both of them. Police report that they’re both in stable condition, which is good because they’re going to the jail when the hospital is done slicing them up.


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: galdur on November 04, 2015, 07:12:02 PM
Wednesday morning feel good stories

A man in New Braunfels, Texas shot a burglar, Phillip Owens, in his home. Police think that Owens is connected to a number of burglaries in the neighborhood which were also cases of arson, fires set to hide evidence of the robberies.

Sammy Stanfield came back to his home in the middle of the day from work in Carter County, Oklahoma and found 55-year-old Tommy Robbins coming out of his garage. Sammy tried to stop Robbins by brandishing his .22 rifle, but Robbins wouldn’t stop, even when Sammy fired a warning shot. Then he fired once again at Robbins, hitting his arm. When Robbins tried to escape in his car, Sammy disabled the vehicle with more fire. Finally, Robbins surrendered and police arrived to arrest the injured thief.

A criminal in Harris County, Texas, forced his way into a home and fatally stabbed a teenager who was in the shower. A neighbor noticed the ruckus and came to the rescue, a bit late, but he dealt some justice to the murderer who was declared DRT (dead right there).

mattinnc sends us a link to a story in Winston-Salem, North Carolina where three fellows tried to rob a jewelry store, but the owner of the store didn’t like their idea, so he pulled out his gun and shot one of them DRT (dead right there). His pals un-assed the AO.

In Gibsonia, Pennsylvania, a man was welding at his worksite when another fellow walked in the open overhead door, pulled a gun and demanded the working man’s wallet. The man with a job reached for his wallet, but came up with his legal firearm and he fired a shot, missing the criminal, but ending the robbery, as the thief un-assed the AO.


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: galdur on November 11, 2015, 07:15:45 PM
Wednesday morning feel good stories

Near Columbia, South Carolina, a homeowner heard someone banging on his back door. When he went to check, he saw someone fiddling around with his vehicle, so he went out to confront the fellow. They got into an altercation and the homeowner fetched his firearm and shot the thief who collapsed about 100 yards away, he was transported to the hospital where he was declared DOT (dead over there). Funny thing, though, in the article, the deceased goes from being a “suspect” to being a “victim” after he’s shot. Journalists, huh? (It looks like they edited the story to read “suspect” instead of “victim” – that’s why I usually screen shot that stuff)

In Ladson, South Carolina, a thirteen year old boy who was home alone heard someone breaking into his home, so he went and grabbed his mother’s gun. The thief tried to break through the back door and the boy opened fire through the door. The criminal fired back and then took off. He was DOT (dead over there) at the hospital.

In Macomb Township, Michigan two grown men in their 50s got into a fist fight over leaves blown into a yard. The 57-year-old, who began the physical portion of the disagreement, was whipping the 52-year-old’s ass until the 52-year-old’s 68-year-old girlfriend came out of the house with her legal firearm and broke up the fight without discharging the gun. The 57-year-old was booked by the police, though.

Another lesson for the kids out there; in South Bend, Indiana, a licensed, legal gun owner has been arrested because he fired his gun at escaping shoplifters in a parking lot of a department store. The prosecutor charged the man with “criminal recklessness with a deadly weapon and pointing a firearm”. Shoplifting all by itself isn’t a capital offense.


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: galdur on November 12, 2015, 02:20:49 PM
MIAMI (CBSMiami) – Miami Police said an 88-year-old homeowner opened fire on a burglar who tried to break into her house Tuesday night.

Neighbors are applauding the widow’s actions. She lives alone in that home.

“Well that was awesome,” said one of the victim’s neighbors, Gladys Betancourt. “You have to do what you have to do to protect yourself. I’m glad she did this. She was a very brave woman. I wouldn’t.”

Betancourt told CBS4’s Peter D’Oench, “She took the initiative to do something. He won’t be back. I’ll tell you that.”

The lead detective in the case told D’Oench that it was 10:38 p.m. on Tuesday when Arlene Theresa Orms heard someone jiggling her front door lock and trying to get in her front door.

The detective said when the burglar kicked open that door, Orms shot him with her .25-caliber Beretta handgun.

It’s not known if that burglar was struck by the one bullet that she fired or if that burglar had an accomplice. But he was not able to steal anything before he fled from Orms’ home.

Orms’ next-door neighbor Maria Dominguez also commended Orms, saying, “It’s good.”

Another next-door neighbor, Raul Barreto, said, “I believe if someone tries to get into your house, maybe, shoot. You are not going to ask them are you going to be nice or good. The question is what are you doing on my property?”

Records show Orms has no criminal record.

Neighbors say she has lived alone in the home since her husband died in 1993.

The lead Miami Police detective in this case said he was not sure if Orms has a permit or not for her weapon but added the law does not require you to have a permit to use a weapon in your home.

He said Orms’ weapon has been taken as evidence but he also said she will be getting her gun back on Thursday. He also said police will be stepping up their patrols around the neighborhood.

Detective Sean Dorcely said he was scouring the neighborhood for surveillance tape that might show the burglar.

Neighbors say that there has been an increase in burglaries in their neighborhood.

“This neighborhood used to be a good place for the past 20 years,” said Betancourt. “But lately in the street, people are coming around.”

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2015/11/11/gutsy-granny-fights-off-home-invaders-in-miami/


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: BADecker on November 12, 2015, 03:31:49 PM
Usually they only catch the stupid ones. Just think of how many caches of stolen this or that exist around the world. Most of them are owned by the FBI or CIA, or the government in general, in one form or another.

:)


Title: Re: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina
Post by: connexus on November 13, 2015, 10:13:43 AM
10,000 guns that's a lot of break ins. I wonder if he is one of those people who dispose of weapons for criminals. I would run the ballistics on every one of those fire arms and see if they come back to any unsolved murders.


Maybe he was doing his part of keeping guns off the street...nah probably not.