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Title: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: sunnydeep on November 24, 2015, 09:58:05 PM
So you know how they say that everything's priced in, and everyone expects BTC to skyrocket on the 27th? So I guess it's already priced in, and everyone's just waiting to "sell the news"?
What's your bet?


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: Altynbekova on November 24, 2015, 10:12:16 PM
I don't expect a big up or down. On average the price wil be stable, unless the whales try to manipulate the price again.

Let's hope I am right people.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: Zz on November 24, 2015, 10:15:45 PM
I think everything is happening as usual. I don't expect price actions specifically for that matter. It will be 310-340$ range. (I keep it large for errors)


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: unent on November 24, 2015, 10:21:26 PM
I don't expect a big up or down. On average the price wil be stable, unless the whales try to manipulate the price again.

That's what I think. No matter how many buyers buy extra Bitcoins to spend on Black Friday, the shops will most likely sell those Bitcoins almost immediately which will result in a stable price. The exchanges will get increased volume, but that won't increase or decrease the price, which hasn't changed much in the last week.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: lissandra on November 24, 2015, 10:23:18 PM
dude its really like a flat line if anything lol.

honestly how many of us are going to go spend our bitcoin on something this holiday? or the black friday.. I think majority are just holding then spending.. lol.

and if you do spend, its probably on a credit card.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: NorrisK on November 24, 2015, 10:26:23 PM
Why would anyone expect a pump on black friday? Its not like people will wait till the day of shopping to buy their bitcoin...

The only way price would move on that day would be manipulation. Not market demand.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: Newcoins2020 on November 24, 2015, 10:43:17 PM
People want to spend their btc so price will go up, if many people buy bitcoin from the exchanges (supply vs demand).

The it goes back to original price again.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: tiggytomb on November 24, 2015, 10:47:39 PM
I can't see the price drastically changing on Friday, there might be a slight increase in transactions but unless people go crazy I don't think we'll see much movement.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: MissionPhailed on November 24, 2015, 10:50:59 PM
Might have a few dollars effect (might be up or down) but nah, I expect the price to remain stable. My reasoning is that Black Friday is an event that can be foreseen (duh) so I doubt it'll have a sudden effect on value of crypto. Same thing regarding upcoming block halving, but that's another topic ...


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: InvoKing on November 24, 2015, 10:55:38 PM
[...] everyone expects BTC to skyrocket on the 27th? [...]
What's your bet?

I don't think that the price will skyrocket in this period maybe 330-340$? I doubt that the price will pass the 350$ barrier on November anyway..


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: lissandra on November 24, 2015, 11:10:38 PM
People want to spend their btc so price will go up, if many people buy bitcoin from the exchanges (supply vs demand).

The it goes back to original price again.


I mean yeah, they already do it by buying giftcards using gyft.'

Which Imma assume if they really do want to take advantage thats what they would do, but you should see the prices already climbing and I dont see any of that lol.

Again, assuming people are doing the black friday prior to friday which most do.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: Nameless Coin on November 24, 2015, 11:38:08 PM
LOL, who is feeding your this information.

Unless you have some inside information offcourse.

The usual step is they will be trades and the bitcoin will remain as it is.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: teddy5145 on November 25, 2015, 12:57:26 AM
dude its really like a flat line if anything lol.

honestly how many of us are going to go spend our bitcoin on something this holiday? or the black friday.. I think majority are just holding then spending.. lol.

and if you do spend, its probably on a credit card.
I will use bitcoin to buy a gift this christmas ::)
It's been a long time since i buy myself a nice gift ;D
And im pretty sure im not the only one here :P


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on November 25, 2015, 01:01:54 AM
I don't think we can call it as a big dump of Bitcoins this Friday or Monday for no reason at all. If there will be a lot of spending this Friday or Monday that is because there are a lot of good opportunities to buy low priced items and I believe everyone here want's to buy an item on a discounted price.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: jaberwock on November 25, 2015, 01:17:27 AM
Why skyrocket?

Unless the exchanges do black friday promotions for those who buy BTC, there will be no reason for the price to increase,

People will spend money, not invest


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: sunnydeep on November 25, 2015, 01:24:30 AM
I will use bitcoin to buy a gift this christmas ::)

Make sure to buy that bitcoin back right away. Exchanges need Christmas too u kno :)


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: r0ach on November 25, 2015, 01:31:23 AM
So you know how they say that everything's priced in, and everyone expects BTC to skyrocket on the 27th? So I guess it's already priced in, and everyone's just waiting to "sell the news"?
What's your bet?

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Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: sunnydeep on November 25, 2015, 01:51:34 AM
Plz forgive my friend c0ckr0ach. I think he got assburgers.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: asriloni on November 25, 2015, 09:05:01 AM
If we spend a lot of bitcoin to buy goods and do not buy back the coins we spend, there is a chance of price drop.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: talks_cheep on November 25, 2015, 01:00:21 PM
Does anyone have a solid data on btc price movement around past Black Fridays?


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: Patatas on November 25, 2015, 01:16:41 PM
Don't really expect it to go rocket high.That's not how really the market works.Even if the prices will go substantially high we can see it going up by units from today itself.But since it haven't I don't think its going to get affected so much in the next two days .Also if it happens it will be a great time for all the bitcoin owners to buy stuff which will have slightly expensive transaction fees than our regular trades.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: AndySt on November 25, 2015, 04:07:04 PM
Have not yet seen large premises to it. Although still subject to change but time is running out.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: amacar2 on November 25, 2015, 04:15:12 PM
Crazy shopping may increase the demand but this will not pull the outside money as new people fear to buy bitcoin only to get discounted purchase on shopping. So i don't think much more will happen to bitcoin price on black friday.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: 98problems on November 25, 2015, 09:25:24 PM
i dont think that there will be any dumps in contrast i believe that people will start buying bitcoins what will result in the price growth as everyone will be interested in buyinng cheap stuff from the shops


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: richardsNY on November 25, 2015, 09:56:22 PM
If there will be any dumping then it is mostly due to the Bitcoins getting converted to fiat. That might be a reason for the price to go down. But I think not much will happen.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: Altynbekova on November 25, 2015, 09:58:16 PM
Merchants will dump, consumer will buy, so in the end the price would be the same.

I don't anticipate on a big hectic price change this black friday/cyber monday event.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: Mickeyb on November 25, 2015, 10:15:18 PM
Merchants will dump, consumer will buy, so in the end the price would be the same.

I don't anticipate on a big hectic price change this black friday/cyber monday event.

I share the same opinion with you! I think that we need to chill out with our expectations that Bitcoin will go up whenever we expect it should go up and it will go down when we expect so.

I don't see anything special about this Black Friday honestly! Moreover, we had one last year as well and the Bitcoin price hasn't nudge up or down!


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: HarryKPeters on November 25, 2015, 10:21:35 PM
Speculating is nice, but the occasion should be good.

Last year nothing happened with black friday/ cyber monday. So what are the signals something will happen this year?

Because we have momentum?


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: Callahan on November 25, 2015, 10:24:49 PM
We had a fluctuation of 32 $


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: AndySt on November 25, 2015, 11:49:49 PM
Speculating is nice, but the occasion should be good.

Last year nothing happened with black friday/ cyber monday. So what are the signals something will happen this year?

Because we have momentum?
There probably is more hope for a christmas rally than on black friday. But time passes, more and rally and did not think to come...


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: Alley on November 26, 2015, 12:11:05 AM
Who cares what the price will do.  I want to see how aggressive these merchants get with discounts.  Will show how serious they are.  If all we see is free shipping or 10% off I will be very disappointed.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: sartorpc on November 26, 2015, 12:24:48 AM
You can't be sure, but I guess the price of btc will increase a bit, but not skyrocket...


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: jt byte on November 26, 2015, 12:34:22 AM
Don't really expect it to go rocket high.That's not how really the market works.Even if the prices will go substantially high we can see it going up by units from today itself.But since it haven't I don't think its going to get affected so much in the next two days .Also if it happens it will be a great time for all the bitcoin owners to buy stuff which will have slightly expensive transaction fees than our regular trades.
It does look like it is pumping up a bit now from what it was 12 hours ago. Almost $20 more then when I checked this morning. So what else could be the cause of this.
I think it is in anticipation of the upcoming of the spending on Black Friday.  ;D


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on November 26, 2015, 12:58:39 AM
Don't really expect it to go rocket high.That's not how really the market works.Even if the prices will go substantially high we can see it going up by units from today itself.But since it haven't I don't think its going to get affected so much in the next two days .Also if it happens it will be a great time for all the bitcoin owners to buy stuff which will have slightly expensive transaction fees than our regular trades.
It does look like it is pumping up a bit now from what it was 12 hours ago. Almost $20 more then when I checked this morning. So what else could be the cause of this.
I think it is in anticipation of the upcoming of the spending on Black Friday.  ;D
A lot of buying or stacking of Bitcoins perhaps? Is there really a lot of site's or merchants out there that will participate in this Black Friday event or this is just a hype.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: PolarPoint on November 26, 2015, 01:17:10 AM
If there are massive discounts, people who holds bitcoin will spend and merchant will dump. Those who do not have bitcoin will not buy bitcoin to spend because of extra discounts. It's too complicated for newbies to learn in a few days. I think bitcoin price may drop slightly but no major concern.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: Junko on November 26, 2015, 03:28:41 AM
I usually eat an excessive amount on Thanksgiving Day so I will likely be taking a massive dump at some point on Black Friday. I imagine others like me will have big dumps as well.

As far as bitcoin is concerned, I don't see why there would be a big dump. If there is, that would be just a good a day as any for a big dump. Sure, why not. If there is a big dump, I'll be ready to buy if the price looks good.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: vuduchyld on November 26, 2015, 03:41:45 AM
So you know how they say that everything's priced in, and everyone expects BTC to skyrocket on the 27th? So I guess it's already priced in, and everyone's just waiting to "sell the news"?
What's your bet?

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Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: Enjorlas on November 26, 2015, 05:59:25 AM
If we spend a lot of bitcoin to buy goods and do not buy back the coins we spend, there is a chance of price drop.

This certainly happened last November. Around this time last year, Bitcoin was around $350. After the holidays were over it plunged to $167.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: LandOwner on November 26, 2015, 11:18:34 AM
If we spend a lot of bitcoin to buy goods and do not buy back the coins we spend, there is a chance of price drop.

This certainly happened last November. Around this time last year, Bitcoin was around $350. After the holidays were over it plunged to $167.

This time, after we spend the bitcoin, we will have to buy it back to support the price. Otherwise, the price will drop.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: Patatas on November 26, 2015, 11:27:36 AM
Don't really expect it to go rocket high.That's not how really the market works.Even if the prices will go substantially high we can see it going up by units from today itself.But since it haven't I don't think its going to get affected so much in the next two days .Also if it happens it will be a great time for all the bitcoin owners to buy stuff which will have slightly expensive transaction fees than our regular trades.
It does look like it is pumping up a bit now from what it was 12 hours ago. Almost $20 more then when I checked this morning. So what else could be the cause of this.
I think it is in anticipation of the upcoming of the spending on Black Friday.  ;D
yeah ,even I'm quite surprised to see its fluctuating since then.Went up and hopefully will hit the rocket high on the black friday .Anyhow I have saved some good number of coins to spend on the day!


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: 1Referee on November 26, 2015, 11:29:04 AM
If we spend a lot of bitcoin to buy goods and do not buy back the coins we spend, there is a chance of price drop.

This certainly happened last November. Around this time last year, Bitcoin was around $350. After the holidays were over it plunged to $167.

The main difference right now is the block halving. We didn't had any one thinking about it as it was still far away back then. It will definitely not go sub $200 anymore, unless a flash crash is happening or several large exchanges get hacked and a lose a lot coins as result. If that doesn't happen, then we'll be heading up like a boss.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: pissedoff on November 26, 2015, 11:52:38 AM
There price has increased from $320 to $350. If the same pattern continue's until black friday we might be an increase in the price.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: Patatas on November 26, 2015, 11:56:01 AM
There price has increased from $320 to $350. If the same pattern continue's until black friday we might be an increase in the price.
Yeap!! Its going up right now and with regular intervals it will show some chances of hitting $500++.I really wish it does go high beyond $700+.Looks like the Black Friday Myth is coming true! Yay!


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: PCos on November 26, 2015, 12:02:25 PM
It's seems a good pump. Hope does not end after tomorrow  ::)


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: bajing on November 26, 2015, 12:10:11 PM
There price has increased from $320 to $350. If the same pattern continue's until black friday we might be an increase in the price.
maybe we will see price more than $350 because affect black friday but i dont think we can touch $400 maybe in around $380-390


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: PCos on November 26, 2015, 12:15:46 PM
There price has increased from $320 to $350. If the same pattern continue's until black friday we might be an increase in the price.
maybe we will see price more than $350 because affect black friday but i dont think we can touch $400 maybe in around $380-390

If breack 400$ and stay over there for at least a week, it could be really a good bullish signal.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: Raimonn on November 26, 2015, 12:46:34 PM
I didn't expect a big movement for black friday, but it seems that today bitcoin price is increasing fast, could be possible a bump for black friday.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: Hugroll on November 26, 2015, 01:00:31 PM
Does anyone have a solid data on btc price movement around past Black Fridays?
well before we have seen it go upto 1000 near black friday, im not sure if black friday was the reason it happened or just a coincidence.

personally i don't expect the price to go down after black fridays over. if people bought coins to spend em online, i doubt they would just say fuck it im selling the coins back.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: elite3000 on November 26, 2015, 01:02:29 PM
Probably there will be some dumps but not big as you think, personally I will sell some of my bitcoins on black friday cuz I dont wanna miss the sales here on our local mall :D I can only see some minor movements on the price


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: Moneyburner on November 26, 2015, 02:29:51 PM
I think the end result will be that we have new floor set, which will be nice to see us having an uptrend versus a downtrend of course.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: sunnydeep on November 26, 2015, 02:41:16 PM
Does anyone have a solid data on btc price movement around past Black Fridays?
well before we have seen it go upto 1000 near black friday, im not sure if black friday was the reason it happened or just a coincidence.

personally i don't expect the price to go down after black fridays over. if people bought coins to spend em online, i doubt they would just say fuck it im selling the coins back.

Last year, the price started falling after Black Friday, and didn't stop until $166 :(


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: ultimatesky on November 26, 2015, 02:43:54 PM
Does anyone have a solid data on btc price movement around past Black Fridays?
well before we have seen it go upto 1000 near black friday, im not sure if black friday was the reason it happened or just a coincidence.

personally i don't expect the price to go down after black fridays over. if people bought coins to spend em online, i doubt they would just say fuck it im selling the coins back.

Last year, the price started falling after Black Friday, and didn't stop until $166 :(

I got my hopes set for that, that doesn't happen this year, hopefully. I do expect it to fall a bit but it has also risen today for a bit. The day is not over yet so I'm expecting that if it does fall down that we can take a hit.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: pissedoff on November 26, 2015, 02:47:43 PM
Probably there will be some dumps but big as you think, personally I will sell some of my bitcoins on black friday cuz I dont wanna miss the sales here on our local mall :D I can only see some minor movements on the price
IMO, I would buy some extra bitcoins today not to miss some of the great bitcoin black friday deals.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: AndySt on November 26, 2015, 11:12:22 PM
It all depends on the mood of the players. If it is not spoiled bad news we may see a good rise on Black Friday ;)


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: ssmc2 on November 26, 2015, 11:14:08 PM
Dumping of fiat? Yes.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: Pro Gamers on November 26, 2015, 11:20:05 PM
Current price $355 is this normal or blackfriday has something to get price highs a bit


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: fuddudle on November 27, 2015, 06:46:45 AM
Current price $355 is this normal or blackfriday has something to get price highs a bit

The price movement is quite odd, I would assume that most people who have fiat would be putting that to buying christmas gifts. Dumping btc etc.



Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: Pro Gamers on November 27, 2015, 07:25:47 AM
Current price $355 is this normal or blackfriday has something to get price highs a bit

The price movement is quite odd, I would assume that most people who have fiat would be putting that to buying christmas gifts. Dumping btc etc.



Yep there is so many shopping site offers discounts and promotions to celebrate blackfriday, so there is no way theyll buy btc instead gadgets or any physical items


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: newcoins1978 on November 27, 2015, 09:39:29 AM
Well, black friday is here, I'm ready to see what happens.

Ever since I got out of bed today it went up by a couple of dollars.



Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: pattu1 on November 28, 2015, 03:01:05 AM
Well, black friday is here, I'm ready to see what happens.
Ever since I got out of bed today it went up by a couple of dollars.

Saturday is here and the price seems to be holding.
That is good for us.  :)


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: ThunderThomas on November 28, 2015, 03:33:04 PM
It seems to have stabilized, not too bad at a $350. We'll just have to see what happens next week.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: quadriple7 on November 28, 2015, 04:28:21 PM
the price doesnt seem to fall a lot right now lets hope there wont be any dumps


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: Alley on November 28, 2015, 04:37:40 PM
About 30k more transactions yesterday then a typical weekday too.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: lemipawa on November 28, 2015, 04:46:53 PM
Congrats to those who believed that rate will again increase during the black friday event and buy BTC at $320 rate, you guys just earned and extra $30 per BTC. As for me I decided to be an observer only.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: jaredboice on November 28, 2015, 05:46:18 PM
About 30k more transactions yesterday then a typical weekday too.

The rebound's gunna be brutal...


I know right?  Check out the rebound of the price from below $200s and now up over 50% from the lows.  Still up over 3 Million Percent since inception too.  This rebound is still in effect and the extent of the bounce will likely go much higher than most could have imagined


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: ultimatesky on November 28, 2015, 06:22:36 PM
Congrats to those who believed that rate will again increase during the black friday event and buy BTC at $320 rate, you guys just earned and extra $30 per BTC. As for me I decided to be an observer only.

Lol this exactly, I've said it last week that I wouldn't expect much and would just wait out and see what would happen. Nothing much has happened so far.

Let's hope some action happen soon


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: jaredboice on November 28, 2015, 06:37:43 PM
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As debilitating and nasty as your Assburgers condition may be, it is not an excuse >:(


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Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: jaredboice on November 28, 2015, 08:22:58 PM
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Everybody in the bitcoin universe can see through your bullshit.  You're just wasting your own time at this point


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: Oscoda on November 28, 2015, 08:35:36 PM
About 30k more transactions yesterday then a typical weekday too.

The rebound's gunna be brutal...


I know right?  Check out the rebound of the price from below $200s and now up over 50% from the lows.  Still up over 3 Million Percent since inception too.  This rebound is still in effect and the extent of the bounce will likely go much higher than most could have imagined


That's the best right. We came from 200. Got a lot of support @ 300.

Now the goal is set on 400 dollar. Let's see where we will be end of this year.

The black friday dump did not happen so the future is bright.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: uki on November 28, 2015, 08:40:56 PM
That's the best right. We came from 200. Got a lot of support @ 300.

Now the goal is set on 400 dollar. Let's see where we will be end of this year.

The black friday dump did not happen so the future is bright.
We are not out of the woods as of yet. The price has stabilised at around $350, but that does not mean we won't revisit low $300 in what remains of the year.
For now, there are no fundamental reasons, neither bitcoin positive news to fuel the next speculative leg up.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: jaredboice on November 28, 2015, 08:58:25 PM

The black friday dump did not happen so the future is bright.

I don't think you understand what black friday dump is. It doesn't happen on black friday, never did. It happens when all the merchants and payment processors have to dump the bitcoins they got back onto the market. This usually happens anytime from now until the end of next week.

Last year it lasted a bit longer, price didn't stop falling until we hit $166 :(


If we actually went below $200 again, it would take all of 5 minutes for it to bounce back over $300.  Bottom is in.  So sowwy to bears


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: The KGB on November 28, 2015, 09:31:23 PM
OKCoin wants this party to keep going it seems, any dump will be gobbled up quickly.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: eddie13 on November 28, 2015, 09:37:34 PM
Maybe it'll all just even out.
I bet the things most people spent there black Friday BTC on are made in china. China gets there profits from all the american sheep that buy chineese crap and then they buy BTC with it..


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: pissedoff on November 29, 2015, 04:24:07 AM
OKCoin wants this party to keep going it seems, any dump will be gobbled up quickly.
If a major dump happens even OKPay cannot gobble up the losses easily even Mt.Gox cannot do it if there where still in business.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: jaylin on November 29, 2015, 06:31:45 AM
Doesn't make much sense for a dump right now


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: pissedoff on November 29, 2015, 06:38:50 AM
Doesn't make much sense for a dump right now
Why not? Most of the merchants who sold goods/Digital Goods for bitcoins on black friday will want to cash out into fiat.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: lumeire on November 29, 2015, 07:12:51 AM
Doesn't make much sense for a dump right now
Why not? Most of the merchants who sold goods/Digital Goods for bitcoins on black friday will want to cash out into fiat.

Black Friday is mostly for the US I suppose. Since a huge chunk of volume comes from China, even if US merchants cashed out into fiat Chinese traders will still cover for them. Overall I think we won't see an effect.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: Amph on November 29, 2015, 08:54:53 AM
Doesn't make much sense for a dump right now
Why not? Most of the merchants who sold goods/Digital Goods for bitcoins on black friday will want to cash out into fiat.

and why? they can hold like any other human, and speculate, or simply use those bitcoin to buy thing that they needed, without dumping each time

remember that the final point of bitcoin, is to be used without the need of fiat


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: uki on November 29, 2015, 11:12:12 AM
Black Friday is mostly for the US I suppose. Since a huge chunk of volume comes from China, even if US merchants cashed out into fiat Chinese traders will still cover for them. Overall I think we won't see an effect.
With the market globalisation, and Bitcoin being also one part of it, I think that we may see some non-negligible effect on the price of Bitcoin. Nevertheless, the range of such movement is small, as there no further Bitcoin-important events happening. Halving is still far away ahead, and recently we didn't hear any thing either very positive or very negative to significantly move the price. That is why such a secondary (in Bitcoin terms) event as Black Friday may have some little impact on price. 


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: 1Referee on November 29, 2015, 01:44:16 PM
Doesn't make much sense for a dump right now
Why not? Most of the merchants who sold goods/Digital Goods for bitcoins on black friday will want to cash out into fiat.

Black Friday is mostly for the US I suppose. Since a huge chunk of volume comes from China, even if US merchants cashed out into fiat Chinese traders will still cover for them. Overall I think we won't see an effect.

So far there doesn't seem to be much effect on the Bitcoin price. Here in Europe where I live, black friday is quite calm, not much action here as we are more interested in the Christmas time. That's when the people here go nuts on buying stuff.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: lemipawa on November 29, 2015, 03:53:18 PM
So far there doesn't seem to be much effect on the Bitcoin price. Here in Europe where I live, black friday is quite calm, not much action here as we are more interested in the Christmas time. That's when the people here go nuts on buying stuff.

Black Friday is more about the Thanksgiving Day is being celebrated in the US. This event is more Celebrated and observed in the US than Christmas season. Is there a Thanksgiving Day as well celebrated in Europe at same date?


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: pissedoff on November 29, 2015, 03:57:39 PM
Black friday is long over and the bitcoin price is still stable. I don't think we will see a dump after this.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: Alley on November 29, 2015, 04:14:37 PM
Merchants dump right away, they don't wait.  Hopefully they didn't dump.  Price is up 2% from Friday.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: Amph on November 29, 2015, 06:51:02 PM
Merchants dump right away, they don't wait.  Hopefully they didn't dump.  Price is up 2% from Friday.

this does not matter much as long as there is a constant demand and the for every new buyers the demand increase by few point percentage

also no one said that the merchants will dump at market price, they can sell at a slightly higher market price to take a good profit out of it if they are intelligent enough

this in the long term will increase the value


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: NorrisK on November 29, 2015, 07:03:23 PM
Surprise surprise, there was no big pump n sump from bitcoin black Friday.

Volume was just way too low to make a significant impact.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: Struble on November 29, 2015, 07:31:03 PM
So far there doesn't seem to be much effect on the Bitcoin price. Here in Europe where I live, black friday is quite calm, not much action here as we are more interested in the Christmas time. That's when the people here go nuts on buying stuff.

Black Friday is more about the Thanksgiving Day is being celebrated in the US. This event is more Celebrated and observed in the US than Christmas season. Is there a Thanksgiving Day as well celebrated in Europe at same date?
As far as I know, I don't think so. Black friday here in Europe is just a day for sales, they kinda copied that from the US. But there's not special holiday around this time.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: lexuz on November 29, 2015, 08:00:52 PM
Merchants dump right away, they don't wait.  Hopefully they didn't dump.  Price is up 2% from Friday.
Black friday give good impact on bitcoin price and price get increase a little, i don't think trader will dump price again


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: ivanst776 on November 29, 2015, 08:10:52 PM
Big Dumps? I think that it was a little pump which is of course better that way that bitcoin was going, i see that the price has been increased and not crashed.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: Mickeyb on November 29, 2015, 10:40:14 PM
Big Dumps? I think that it was a little pump which is of course better that way that bitcoin was going, i see that the price has been increased and not crashed.

Where are the dumps, I still haven't seen any?! :) Me as well, all I see is a steady rise for days now!


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: PolarPoint on November 30, 2015, 02:30:12 AM
Surprise surprise, there was no big pump n sump from bitcoin black Friday.
Volume was just way too low to make a significant impact.

May be bitcoin spent during black friday wasn't enough to cause the merchant dump to have much impact on the price.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: NorrisK on November 30, 2015, 07:55:02 AM
Surprise surprise, there was no big pump n sump from bitcoin black Friday.
Volume was just way too low to make a significant impact.

May be bitcoin spent during black friday wasn't enough to cause the merchant dump to have much impact on the price.

Ofcourse it wasn't enough. Look at the daily volumes, do you really think so many was spent shopping using bitcoins?

Speculators were very wrong this time.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: LandOwner on January 10, 2016, 12:09:59 PM
Surprise surprise, there was no big pump n sump from bitcoin black Friday.
Volume was just way too low to make a significant impact.

May be bitcoin spent during black friday wasn't enough to cause the merchant dump to have much impact on the price.

Ofcourse it wasn't enough. Look at the daily volumes, do you really think so many was spent shopping using bitcoins?

Speculators were very wrong this time.

The Black Friday is just in America. The bitcoin transaction happens mainly in China. So the BF effect is very small.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: Amph on January 10, 2016, 12:24:40 PM
Surprise surprise, there was no big pump n sump from bitcoin black Friday.
Volume was just way too low to make a significant impact.

May be bitcoin spent during black friday wasn't enough to cause the merchant dump to have much impact on the price.

Ofcourse it wasn't enough. Look at the daily volumes, do you really think so many was spent shopping using bitcoins?

Speculators were very wrong this time.

The Black Friday is just in America. The bitcoin transaction happens mainly in China. So the BF effect is very small.

not it is celebrated in other region, i see that some website were offering some huge discount in that day, so maybe this is true for china also


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: LMGTFY on January 10, 2016, 12:27:57 PM
not it is celebrated in other region, i see that some website were offering soem huge discount in that day, so maybe this is true for chian also

Yeah, Black Friday seems to be catching on in Britain - a few years ago it was usually marked by news reports about "those wacky Americans", now it's a chance to grab bargains on amazon.co.uk etc. I think there may even have been fatalities (or at least injuries...) at a British shopping mall.


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: gkv9 on January 10, 2016, 01:42:12 PM
The event doesn't necessarily indicate any effect on Bitcoins, as it is just limited to a single country, and BTC is possessed by many users from different countries, mainly from China...
Even if people from USA start selling their BTC just to buy something, that won't affect the price much...
Come on guys, we are in 2016 and we are still talking "dumps"???
Why not anyone see the stability of BTC???


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: Pro Gamers on January 10, 2016, 11:48:47 PM
When was black friday? What the day is today?


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: Amph on January 11, 2016, 08:31:02 AM
When was black friday? What the day is today?

27 november the day after thanksgiving


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: gkv9 on January 11, 2016, 11:25:24 AM
When was black friday? What the day is today?

27 november the day after thanksgiving

We are talking on something which has already passed...
How this question relates to the price nowadays???


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: Pro Gamers on January 11, 2016, 09:59:10 PM
When was black friday? What the day is today?

27 november the day after thanksgiving

We are talking on something which has already passed...
How this question relates to the price nowadays???

That was my point black friday was on November 27 and today is january, why this topic bumped up this month in spite?


Title: Re: Big Dumps on Black Friday?
Post by: Pab on January 11, 2016, 10:04:40 PM
Black Friday will  not has huge impact on btc price,maybe little up and down,for sure will be not sell  of after