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Hi guys,

i plan to put in some money onto this site on their investment, but im still worried.
So i would like to hear all the trusted community here on this site before going all out onto them.

If you guys have invested, can you share with me your experience, or share least how much you invested so i could get an understanding
on their returns.

Thank you.

Probably better not to do it. If you are in doubt, it is always better to stay out.

Especially if you have limited funds to spend, it might be wiser just to keep them or buy a few more coins at a decent price instead of trying to multiply them by some scammy investment.

Create a free account there and get $1000?

You believe this is an honest company???

Ah that $1000 is the virual money,

i tried with their virtual money, seems good if its REAL :P

thats why i want to know anyone in this forum have used it before?

I don't necessarily believe Pokeram is true the way they say it. It could all be a scam. But I do believe it is possible.

Someone might think that if this kind of thing were workable, that there would be lots of companies out there doing it. The problem is, it takes a lot of work to get something like this going... same as sports arbitrage.

The advantage of game betting is that the gaming industry is a very large industry. Did I read somewhere that gaming is a $billion-and-a-half a year industry? Thus, properly done, someone might be able to get into that market with betting.

Notice how Pokeram is constantly developing new robots. Part of the reason for this is that the gaming companies do not like this kind of betting operation. When they find such a robot, they try to block it. New robots need to be developed to take advantage of the holes in gaming company protection.

Seems to me that they say Level 1 starts at $30, and creates 40% earnings in a month. Forty percent a month is quite a good deal. Thirty dollars is not a lot to lose (if you lose it) just to test them. Take your girl to Denny's twice, and you spend more than $30.

Generally, gambling is stupid. How long have they been around? All HYIP Monitors (http://www.allhyipmonitors.com/) says they have existed for at least 118 days as of this post. Is that long enough to be considered stable? Lots of HYIPs have crashed in the past after being around a lot longer.

:)

Dude, don't throw money at random websites on the Interwebs promising huge returns.

You do realize that's a ponzi scheme and eventually it will collapse and then you'll come again crying they took your money.

Their Alexa rank is very, very good. I don't see why you wouldn't trust them.
Never used them tho, but I doubt it's a scam site, with such a rank.

EDIT: Just did a little bit of more investigation..


Let say you invest 1 BTC in this ponzi, that would mean that you'd get:
0.3 BTC per month.

https://i.imgur.com/DgyUSnG.png


If you don't have a better way to earn BTC, or you have BTC and not sure what to do with it, this could be the place you could invest.
DYOR, always.

I wouldn't recommend some random websites to invest in, i've never heard of pokeram. if you want to invest you can try some trusted dice/casino(look around in gambling section)website investment is risky though.

what i believe is that this is another newbie advertising is website or in some way he is affiliate with it

everytime one of those random website pop up there is always a newbie that discover it, how strange...

It's not random actually. Its rank is at 5.4k on Alexa.

Exactly this! If you believe in this then you probably deserve to lose your investment! Please don't be a fool and please stay away from this scammers!

So anyway if thats the case,

is there any save way to really grow my bitcoin ?

I just want to find all possible ways to earn as much bitcoin as i can

Thanks

Though i have visited this website several times and i do not have any proof whether they are legit or scam but you cannot claim they are real due to the virtual money because you cannot withdraw your winnings on virtual money.

The site u listed in the OP has already ran and running over 400+ Days.
Its miracle for a HYIP program..
Check the status of this hyip in this monitors.

Reference link : http://www.sqmonitor.com/?a=details&lid=2793

Reference link 2 : http://all-hyips.info/?a=details&lid=4692

Reference link 3 : http://allmonitors.net/hyip/pokeram.com

Since it had a veryyy looong run already so i think u are too late to invest here..
My opinion : DONOT INVEST HERE.. CHOOSE ANY OTHER HYIP.

OR if you are crazy to join it u can join ..

EDIT : for now this hyip is still paying..
For your reference you can find all payout proofs about this hyip here ==>>>  http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showthread.php?t=421942&highlight=pokeram

I hope that people here will stop judging without even trying to do some researches
pokeram is running for over one year and it's good so far , I haven't tried it cause I like to put my money in sites which offer advertising services like revenue shares
here is the link for the discussion about the site in moneymakergroup , you can see all the feedbacks about the site
http://www.moneymakergroup.com/Poker-Automatics-Pokera-t476785.html

I disagree with you on this because pokeram is not an hyip site but a site that trade poker on someone behave and pay out some percentage so they have the potential to run as long as poker exists.

Never be fooled by HYIP promises / concepts. If you make affect by their rumors, then it's game over.
Pokeram is a old HYIP running a Ponzi scheme for long time and always paid its users (I don't know what about big deposits though..) but I wouldn't reccomend it to any player, especially if you're new to this industry.
Let this program to expert HYIP investors and for dumb people only, so in the end better if you stay away and choose a new promising program instead  ;)

Interesting discussion we are having here.

What other stable investment out there using bitcoin that i can rely on.

Man the internet is so confusing. Is there anything real solid out there?

Thanks

dont ever trust those ponzi investment site,at first it is exciting but when days past it will be horrible

Just like everything in life whatever have a beginning will surely have an end, always invest what you can afford to loose.

I have funds in pokeram. The site could use some work, but they do put 0.002 (on average) in my account each day. Manual withdrawal from account is required. I invested 0.5.

They have a Skype chat room that is pretty active, people constantly asking questions and getting fast replies.

Is the site legit? Hmm... Only maybe, but I wouldn't dismiss it as a complete bust.

earlier there was latest sites that always pays a profitable amount for the invested bitcoins . but those site are now closed.
since some sites are in these days pays some small amount of btc that are not profitable .
i had also invested at a site but that site did not paid my btc . due this i have lost my 0.09btc .
so i think investment is very risky .

There is nothing stable or solid out there. The closest you can come is something that you know about first hand.

Consider all the money people are losing in investments right now. Pensions are drying up. Savings have become of little value. Certainly the Forex loses money for people on a regular basis. If you find something good, it will not last.

:)

Pokeram.com is neither ponzi nor hyip site but an investment or managed poker accounts company that uses their robot to trade on thousands of accounts.

Pokerautomatics has been around for like 2 years now. If you go to monitor websites like moneymakergroup or allmonitors you can see people talk about it and they post all their payment transactions.  The virtual money thing is just to get you a feel of the website, it is not withdraw able or anything just for testing purposes.  It is not a random website like people on here have said, it is probably the MOST POPULAR HYIP on the internet.  The websites that are posted on this forum that go away after 4 days are "random websites" on the internet. 

Lmao I had to laugh at how ridiculous your statement is.  The stock market is nearing new highs, I don't see how you are speaking on behalf of the entire "investment community."  Pherhaps if you invested all your money into HYIPs your statement would be very true.  Savings have become of little value ?  That statement makes literally no sense and I can not even combat it with an argument.  The Forex loses money on a regular basis???? Depends what currency you are invested in there are hundreds of different currencies, don't think you can loose money in all of them at the same time would literally not be possible.... I'm sorry but your post is so full of absolutely insane statements, I could not sit here and let people believe the incorrect information that you are pushing onto them. 

Look. The answer is simple. Level 1 starts at $30 for 1 month. If you can't afford $30, or if you are so tight that losing $30 pains you beyond relief, or if you think it is a big sin to test it out, then forget the whole thing. Otherwise, sign up, and place your $30 investment. Once you get it back with profit, you can do it again... or not. If you lose it, don't go out to Denny's for a couple of weeks until you can save up $30 more for something else. Pokeram accepts Bitcoin, you know.

:)

What? You haven't figured out yet, that in investing, the only way somebody gains is when somebody else loses?

:)

Stocks and Forex are pure gambling but just legalized, how come you'd say? That's simple: when someone wins, someone else is losing in the meantime. Btw I do trading lol

Pokeram has been good to me.

Not the greatest profits compared to other HYIPs but steady going.

I quoted the image above to explain that if you invest 1 btc you don't get 50% profits but roughly 15% a month -> roughly 0.5% a day. The 50% is share of the profits pokeram makes. The 15% is not a hard number. sometimes a little above sometimes a little below. You can withdraw your daily profits when ever you want but your initial deposit is locked until the plan expires after 45 days with 1 btc. Read a little on the page and it is pretty clear how the coins are spread.

And yeah people who don't understand that demo $$$ are for a demonstration and no way to withdraw shouldn't be trying out this stuff at all.

@ Stroto, thank you for your honest review about this investment, though they dont pay high rate but your money will not reduce nor lost and they even accept bitcoin but the only draw back is that their minimum investment is $30 otherwise it is an all comer business.

Well, do you want more than a $30 minimum? Or less? And why?

:)

Though not for me but i feel if they reduce the minimum investment to just $10 it will attract more people or at least they should make it a trial plan.

every investment has a risk and so does pokeram.
life just doesn't have any guarantees you won't lose your money when you put it in someone else's hands.

The $30 dollar minimu is ok. It works well for them and their investors and so there is no need to attract more investors who bring dust.

Poker automatics scam--How I lost 9 BTC plus $12000 by a deliberately fraud (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1204396.0)

Stay away from this site dude, even if it's paying but the profit is really few and you have to wait several months only to get your capital back

Take a look at All HYIP Monitors at http://www.allhyipmonitors.com/.   :)

That story has two sides to it. Both sides have pretty good arguments.

Man, I know admins and their strategies because I'm in contact with them and I can guarantee you they're used to tell such bullshits.
$12k + 9 BTC is a good amount to spread with users of the program so that 1 guy only doesn't get paid and another 1,000 do.
What would you do for you collapsing (or not) program? I would scam that greedy guy and continue paying all my other users for the benefit of my program  ;)

never try this site yet, and never heard of it actually,
maybe not worth to invest  :D avoid this, and invest at more trusted company like moneypot or maybe bitvest.

you can't compare investing in gambling site with investing in a site like pokeram
gambling sites are fluctuating you will face many losses but in the long run you will make money , while investing in a site like pokeram guarantees you profit , you will keep making money until the site stops paying
I'm not saying that investing in gambling sites is wrong , but just clearing the difference

Probably the best explanation I've seen until now, agreed.

I got a post about pokeram here:
https://earnwith.me/2015/11/09/poker-automatics/ (https://earnwith.me/2015/11/09/poker-automatics/)

We got payment proofs and ref back proofs on the site, check them out.

Only YOU can decide if they are legitimate.
I know that Carbon7.cc is run by the same company, maybe invest $20 in there first or invest $30 in pokeram.
Many poeple online say it is legit (I have my doubts) but, it has been paying for over 4 years and it states that it uses poker "bots" which is probably highly profitible (providing that the gambling company do not gecide to change their coding!)

I have been in PokerAM for a year now.
Started with 1.1BTC
Now I have in active deposit 5.01BTC and I have withdraws over 2 BTC.

So no its not a scam, end well worth to invest in.
But of course its up to you :)

I would say yes because they proved they are reliable over the years, I just hope you can afford to lose 30 bucks :D

how do you know?
I know that Carbon7.cc is run by the same company,

they stopped paying .  support disappeared on skype and on site . doesnt reply on twitter or facebook . 

Who could have guess this was going to happen?

Have you heard the news that pokerams have a new owner? I think that is one reason why they stopped paying, not sure though.

Maybe is this a way to run and turn scam?

If pokeram is a scam now...
Which hyip you gonna go to?..

It might be, but who knows? I think pokerams already collected tons of money that is enough for them to run ;D

Correct me if im wrong but isnt pokeram online for 3 years?..
Maybe they have acquire a lot of money...

they didnt get a new owner .  they wanna try to say the owner is from the US then blame the it as an american failed them lol .  notice which groups they removed (We removed Indonesian and Russian versions of our website.) also their payment systems .  and even if they did get a new owner that wouldnt effect processing payouts .

No, that's what they trying to make u all believe they are around for many years.
Truth is they only started out late in 2014, bought fake testimonials from fivver etc and promote it.
Then somewhere in 2015, most of u suddenly heard of such website.

I never believe in their bs, can have so many bots 'gamble' in so many online betting site, and not get caught lol.. and the best you can still win 100%, seriously?

they have been online for awhile . they recently added btc a little over a year ago

So is it safe to say that they are already a scam? :o What a brilliant excuse!

So meaning to say that pokeram is really dead now and has turned to a scam..

If it is too good to be true dont go for it.
In all honestly trust your gut and look for signs that you see in scams.
Even if you find just one drop the site, cause there are hundreds of more that could use your investment in a legit way.

When was the last time that they paid out a withdrawal to you?

@chris56a putting ref link is not allowed in this forum and you might get ban from doing that...
Better take off your ref link there...

i have separate orders of 1 full btc for 30 days they have been around for a couple of years so i couldn't imagine them running this month but anything is possible i get multiple e-mails about profit so so far so good.

This is about the same rule as i have with any investments there is. If it is too good to be true, it's probably not worth it. The idea is you get what you have. Invest wisely, make some efforts and it will profit for you. But too good to be true stuffs doesn't just cut things for me.

The mails for profit are automated, the real concern is whether a withdrawal will be processed or not.

There a lot of pending withdrawals on pokeram...
I got a friend who deposit there and still unable to withdraw...
Much likely it has turned to a scam now...

So I guess it is confirmed now that the "new owner" news is just an excuse for running away. Oh well

how long ago was the launch?
were there any payments wallets?  ::)