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Hi,

I have opened a thread in the gambling section. Its to do with a new service that our team has launched.

This is not some scam... I don't know how we can prove otherwise. Our team has spent the last 5 or 6 months developing these bots for us to be dismissed.

BUT, that is not the problem.

I look at my trust....

WHO THE FUCK is Primedime/TheGambler.

Why am I being harassed by nothing more than stupid fucking idiots...making comments about me being him/her and destroying a fully legit service.

Similar writing style. - I guess that's because I type in English.

Thanks idiots of bitcointalk... once again, as I have seen since 2010, You have just ruined a fully legit service that was made to help people and have fun.

Thanks.

Yes, I understand the reputation of BitcoinTalk is not wonderful, but I'm trying my best to shine some light here.


Since you are new, you have to do what you can to prove that you are not a scammer. When it comes to scammers or people that post questionable posts, make sure to bring it to the attention of the people. And when you deal with trolls, makes sure to place them on ignore. I have placed dogie, Vod, Quickseller, and some others on ignore, so I'm demonstrating that it is okay to do so. Do not be threatened here. If you know you're a good person, prove it and you'll be okay.


Good luck.

https://i.imgur.com/73biJnt.jpg

Seems like you aren't familiar with the internet and just how harsh/bad communities can get (try playing some game like LoL and be bad at it; not saying that this one is though). No matter where you go, no matter what you do, there is always someone who hates/trolls/etc you. This is going to happen to everyone. This is what anonymity does to quite a decent amount of people. You should learn to accept it. In your case you should not worry (yet). All the trust that has been left on your profile is 'untrusted feedback'. This means that it is not displayed by default and your trust rating is still: 0: -0 / +0. As long as somebody from default trust doesn't leave you a negative rating you need not worry.

Primedime and TheGambler are known scammers who have been on this forum before. People think that you may be alts of those accounts and thus also a scammer.

Just because you write English DOES NOT MEAN that you will have similar writing styles. Look around this forum. Most of the posts are in English, but not many of them are the same writing style. Writing style has little to do with the language. It has to do with word choice, grammar, sentence structure, where you put line breaks, how you link threads, how you emphasize things, etc, but it has very little to do with the language you are posting in.

I got scammed by primedime to...but who is gambler?
passivedice you run obvious scheme i do not think you should be here, it is same as primedime

Check out this thread to know who the fuck is TheGambler :D https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=566425.0 I also used to monitor that primedime and it really seems OP and primedice were kinda similar.

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Anyways to OP, don't mind those who gave you negative feedback since they were untrusted ones (most likely inaccurate). Lock this thread cuz this is pointless, just re-open it once you have a trusted negative feedback (it will be soon) :D

Edit: Enjoy your trusted negative feedback now ;D

In case someone missed it, OP's talking about me(and james.lent) giving the negative trust. Well, most DT members(actually I'm technically in DT too, as I'm on depth 3, but well thats as good as being on DT 10) seem to be over with giving negative trust to every other ponzi scam and this one vaguely reminds me of the quite big scam PrimeDime caused. At any rate, if that feedback's a problem for you, editing it now.

You really need to step down as the spokesperson of your team.  

Using profanities makes you look very unprofessional, and I wouldn't touch your service with a ten foot pole.

If I were the rest of the team, I would shut you up ASAP.   :-\


Edit:  Nevermind, I just realized you are running a ponzi and you don't even have a team. 

OP thinks we were born yesterday i guess. Come on dude, you gonna bot dice sites for a month and make profits? Everyone know's it leads to -ve in the long run and there's no system or exploit or any other crap for that matter.

lol, all is well, that ends well, but this is opposite.

It must be that I am an idiot because I have some idiot accusation against me AND my team.

You know why Bitcoin is not mainstream and never will be? People like you. associating and accusing someone incorrectly.

Yes you have ruined our service, It is a scam? No it is not. It is fully legit and all funds are kept in separate accounts and then fed off to dice sites. Once there is a profit or loss its reported back.

Summary. You guys are the idiots. You just ruined a fully above board service that works well.

I hope you are happy with yourselves. I know you get some perverse pleasure from calling someone a scammer even when you have no evidence.

Calling people here names and accusing them of things is not going to help your case, it might even make it worse. Don't be surprised if someone from DT leaves you a negative now.

This.

Here is the evidence: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1266058.20 You are guaranteeing profit meaning that your site is either a direct scam or a ponzi, both cases, same story.

There is no evidence. Because we are not scamming anyone.

We have NEVER said we guarantee profit ever. Actually far from it, Its gambling. we have turned people away who have asked us otherwise.

So before you join the scam bandwaggon. please read.

You know what this reminds me of, the one time this guy was promoting a ponzi by screaming he had a magic method to make profit but sometimes the investment could lost, so you know what other people did, yeah they started promoting it as well... Nah they started hitting him with stones.
Well not good at sotry-telling but the exact thing seems to happen here. Go to those indian forums and scam the shit out of them there, bitcointalk is way ahead of ya ponzis

very nice and interesting topic :D

Don't hope all companies or service providers talk like this way. You have always try to keep calm and patience. You can only proof yourself when you deliver good service With good customer support.

When I click on your trust it only shows vod thinks your running a ponzi. No mention of anyone else neg trusting you.

You need to click "Show ratings." to see untrusted feedbacks, it's under the trusted feedbacks.

Thanks tygeade, just done it and I see them now.

Who's the idiots of bitcointalk ?

all are idiots here, except some

So, what's the point of your site then? I might aswell just gamble myself instead of paying for bots to gamble for me when they can lose just as easily? I see no point there and it's obvious that you are trying to scam people.

The bot is a better gambler than you as it doesn't make rash decisions. Its tried and tested and gambles 24/7 for 30 days. Because it is a standalone bot It has no house edge like the dice sites automated bots. Yes it can lose, but any gambling can lose. But it is more likely to make a profit compared to humans.

If you can do that I would be very impressed.

It's not obvious, because we are not. This service is fully legit. But if you want to join the haters go for it.

Maybe you can regain your trust by uploading those several gigabytes of log files of the gambling not somewhere, so users can see for themselves that it's profitable in the long term?

This would be interesting on so many levels, because I also have a hard time believing in long term profitability for anyone other than the gambling sites owners.

There are no strategies in house edge gambling games, your bots can't do better than me no matter what ''strategy'' they use, if it has the same possibility of loosing long term why would anyone want to PAY for using something that will end up loosing anyways? Makes absolutely no sense.

Bullshit.
The house edge is managed on the server side for EVERY site, you cant do anything about that.
Obvious bullshit is obvious.


Oehm, I don't even...

Love your feedback, thanks.

I think you missunderstand.

Of course there is a house edge on the server side. But there is also a probability of win on the automated bots that you can use on sites.

If you want something similar to the bot we are offering. You will have to use the automated bot on their site. Which also has an edge.

So as well as the house edge you are contending with the bot probability edge which are both against you. With our bot you don't have the probability edge to contend with.

obvious dumbness is obvious Lutpin.

You are all leaving me back feedback but none of you have any evidence and cannot show me any evidence that would stand up in court. It is all stupid accusations, You really area dumb lot.

Calling people names is only going to get you into more trouble. This is not the type of behavior that one would expect from a "team" behind a service. I've already told you this before; be professional.

Sorry Lauda,

Easier said than done when people are accusing your team with dumb remarks though.

Since I (and all others) am "dumb and quite stupid",
please explain me this additional "probability edge" other bots have and yours don't.

As an example. you have sites that have their own robot. So you can just watch or go AFK w/e. It gives you options like Base Bet, Return to base after loss etc etc

You don't think that robot is in any way biased towards the house? even with the house edge... Why would they introduce it if it was not going to make them money?

our bots do not have that. They play as if it was a person but allow you to do the same... go afk. in fact our bots allow you to go afk for much longer.

We are about to introduce a quick withdrawal so you do not have to wait 30 days. We just thought that was a good period for investment.

Oehm, most sites can roll with the house edge they got. There is no need for them to make their auto-bet "biased towards the house".
All bets are provably fair, the bot makes exactly what its told to do - hence there is no difference in using their auto bet to using your bot.
No additional "probability edge" or whatsoever.


If one bet "makes you money" (speaking of EV here), what about 2 bets? or 10?
The more BTCs are wagered on a site, the higher their EV is (dumbed down, won't go into several other things). That's why they introduce auto-bets.