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Economy => Speculation => Topic started by: jehst on December 03, 2015, 04:57:36 PM



Title: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: jehst on December 03, 2015, 04:57:36 PM
Advantages: If the price reaches $1300, then there is strong momentum and it will probably go much higher.
If the price doesn't reach $1300, then bitcoin failed or something seriously went wrong. You will save yourself a lot of time and money.

Disadvantages: You miss the gains from 350 to 1300


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: mobnepal on December 03, 2015, 05:45:04 PM
Why to loss the chance of getting profit of 1300-350= 950$ for the fear of loss of only 350-100= 250$? I can't get how you calculate that to save us from loss.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: jehst on December 03, 2015, 05:50:00 PM
Why to loss the chance of getting profit of 1300-350= 950$ for the fear of loss of only 350-100= 250$? I can't get how you calculate that to save us from loss.

Calculate again.

It's to save you from a loss of 100%.



Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Zicadis on December 03, 2015, 05:55:09 PM
You can change your figure of $1300 to $500. Is your theory still valid? I would say, if the bitcoin price does not reach $1300 in 5 years, then it is in serious trouble.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: jehst on December 03, 2015, 06:25:25 PM
You can change your figure of $1300 to $500. Is your theory still valid? I would say, if the bitcoin price does not reach $1300 in 5 years, then it is in serious trouble.

$1300 is chosen because it is above bitcoin's all-time high, which means that there is more momentum than ever indicating a new wave of adoption. This reasoning doesn't apply under $1200. Any price under $1200 could be caused by pump and dumps orchestrated by the same old cast of characters.



Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: dloghwak on December 03, 2015, 06:33:47 PM
Good old sell low, buy high tactic.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Amph on December 03, 2015, 06:35:03 PM
i don't want to miss that gain, which x350+, on the other hand it's true that i'm not waiting for 1300 only, but if we are really going above 1300 then it's better to simply hold then doing anything else more risky, for a not-professional trader/manipulators


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: RodeoX on December 03, 2015, 06:43:37 PM
Advantages: If the price reaches $1300, then there is strong momentum and it will probably go much higher.
If the price doesn't reach $1300, then bitcoin failed or something seriously went wrong. You will save yourself a lot of time and money.

Disadvantages: You miss the gains from 350 to 1300

>If the price reaches $1300, then there is strong momentum and it will probably go much higher.
Breaking the all-time high is simply that. Doesn't imply momentum.

>If the price doesn't reach $1300, then bitcoin failed or something seriously went wrong.
Failed? I'd be quite happy if by this time next year, BTC traded at $1k. Wouldn't you?
I would be happy finishing 2016 at $600. That would still be more growth than any other item in my portfolio. In fact, I can't think of anything likely to almost double in a year.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: escrow.ms on December 03, 2015, 06:47:01 PM
 It's like literally saying if you are selling now you have to buy at higher rate.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: eddie13 on December 03, 2015, 06:53:00 PM
Sounds like a good way to sell the bottom and buy the top..


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: clever trevor on December 03, 2015, 07:12:50 PM
Sounds like a good way to sell the bottom and buy the top..

It sounds like jehst has an agenda and is trying to convince us all to sell at the bottom so he can buy our cheap coins to sell back to us at the top. That would give him over 300% profit on his investment into our coins. There will be a dump if bitcoin goes above its old ATH as traders take profit.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: randy8777 on December 03, 2015, 07:26:07 PM
sell low and buy high. you advice people to do so, and you benefit from buying cheap coins, right? investors aren't here to lose money.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: uki on December 03, 2015, 09:31:12 PM
I would be happy finishing 2016 at $600. That would still be more growth than any other item in my portfolio. In fact, I can't think of anything likely to almost double in a year.
I expect that $500-600 would be the new stable price at the end of 2016, after we finish halving mania. That is exactly the point: Bitcoin is very likely to deliver considerable return in the coming year and thus worth playing the game. Not being present at the market between $350 and $1300 as the OP suggests is like missing nearly three-fold gain (950/350). I don't think it is a wise play. I would suggest the contrarian play: think of exiting once we cross $1300.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: HarryKPeters on December 03, 2015, 10:05:16 PM
Great advice, let me safe you some trouble. When it reached 1300, I will buy your coins for 350.

Because I am so generous, I will not charge you with a fee :s


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: windjc on December 04, 2015, 12:00:14 AM
Advantages: If the price reaches $1300, then there is strong momentum and it will probably go much higher.
If the price doesn't reach $1300, then bitcoin failed or something seriously went wrong. You will save yourself a lot of time and money.

Disadvantages: You miss the gains from 350 to 1300

Is there a "Dump Post of the Year" award? If so, I nominate this one.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: maokoto on December 04, 2015, 12:14:29 AM
I think this guy is somewhat joking. I think he means many people sell for low profit and then want to get in again when price is too high.

That is why he says ...  sell now buy again at 1300.



Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: gentlemand on December 04, 2015, 12:23:29 AM
Hmm. Four or so times less coins for the same money? That's not exactly the deal of the century. I'll take the risk, ta.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: ajareselde on December 04, 2015, 05:06:06 AM
Not really "pro" advice here in op. If anyone wants to gain by trading, they should do it while bitcoin had somewhat low price, because price move (% - wise) of 10$ now and when
price goes to >1000 is three times greater.
I wouldn't debate much when it comes to probability of good speculative buying, for me everything under 500$ is a steal.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: azguard on December 04, 2015, 08:27:19 AM
maybe OP meant to say buy now and sell on 1300 when halving comes
we all gain from buy cheap and sell high i dont know how he gain from buy high and sell cheap


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: MaxTax on December 04, 2015, 10:04:30 AM
If I would buy at $1300 I would've lost out on the profits I could've made when today the price is around $360.

I would rather buy in now rather than later.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Newcoins2020 on December 04, 2015, 10:41:48 AM
maybe OP meant to say buy now and sell on 1300 when halving comes
we all gain from buy cheap and sell high i dont know how he gain from buy high and sell cheap

I don't think so, OP says so in the title Sell now and buy again at $1300

That's crazy if you're going to do that

You would lose out on all the profits that could've been made, I wouldn't suggest this method to anyone

It's better to buy in and bulk in now rather than when the price shoots up to $1300


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: 1Referee on December 04, 2015, 10:46:30 AM
Advantages: If the price reaches $1300, then there is strong momentum and it will probably go much higher.
If the price doesn't reach $1300, then bitcoin failed or something seriously went wrong. You will save yourself a lot of time and money.

Disadvantages: You miss the gains from 350 to 1300

Great advice! For a troll... Do you seriously expect even the worst newbie noob to believe in your meaningless nonsense?


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: RobinHoodster on December 04, 2015, 11:10:04 AM
Why should I sell it with a cheap price and buy with a high price? That makes no sense.

I just better buy now and wait that will happend to 1300 dollars.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: LMGTFY on December 04, 2015, 11:19:22 AM
Advantages: If the price reaches $1300, then there is strong momentum and it will probably go much higher.
If the price doesn't reach $1300, then bitcoin failed or something seriously went wrong. You will save yourself a lot of time and money.

Disadvantages: You miss the gains from 350 to 1300

Great advice! For a troll... Do you seriously expect even the worst newbie noob to believe in your meaningless nonsense?

I dunno, it's not a strategy I'm going to follow, but it doesn't seem like an unreasonable strategy - not much difference to buying when price rises above the upper Bollinger Band. It also frees up funds to invest in other things while we wait for a clear movement from BTC.



Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: pissedoff on December 04, 2015, 11:26:57 AM
Advantages: If the price reaches $1300, then there is strong momentum and it will probably go much higher.
If the price doesn't reach $1300, then bitcoin failed or something seriously went wrong. You will save yourself a lot of time and money.

Disadvantages: You miss the gains from 350 to 1300

Great advice! For a troll... Do you seriously expect even the worst newbie noob to believe in your meaningless nonsense?

I dunno, it's not a strategy I'm going to follow, but it doesn't seem like an unreasonable strategy - not much difference to buying when price rises above the upper Bollinger Band. It also frees up funds to invest in other things while we wait for a clear movement from BTC.
Buying once the price movement starts will reduce the profits by a great extent compared to buying now.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: onemorexmr on December 04, 2015, 11:38:47 AM
Advantages: If the price reaches $1300, then there is strong momentum and it will probably go much higher.
If the price doesn't reach $1300, then bitcoin failed or something seriously went wrong. You will save yourself a lot of time and money.

Disadvantages: You miss the gains from 350 to 1300

Great advice! For a troll... Do you seriously expect even the worst newbie noob to believe in your meaningless nonsense?

I dunno, it's not a strategy I'm going to follow, but it doesn't seem like an unreasonable strategy - not much difference to buying when price rises above the upper Bollinger Band. It also frees up funds to invest in other things while we wait for a clear movement from BTC.
Buying once the price movement starts will reduce the profits by a great extent compared to buying now.

Buying now has more risks than buying later in an confirmed uptrend; which is what the OP is all about.
as usual: more risk, more (possible) reward ;-)


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: HarryKPeters on December 04, 2015, 11:51:09 AM
Why should I sell it with a cheap price and buy with a high price? That makes no sense.

I just better buy now and wait that will happend to 1300 dollars.

Yeah this guy is a lunatic. I think he went full freak and failed to get back to his normal state.

There is no way people who expect a increase in the price, would sell their coins now.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: pissedoff on December 04, 2015, 11:52:34 AM
Advantages: If the price reaches $1300, then there is strong momentum and it will probably go much higher.
If the price doesn't reach $1300, then bitcoin failed or something seriously went wrong. You will save yourself a lot of time and money.

Disadvantages: You miss the gains from 350 to 1300

Great advice! For a troll... Do you seriously expect even the worst newbie noob to believe in your meaningless nonsense?

I dunno, it's not a strategy I'm going to follow, but it doesn't seem like an unreasonable strategy - not much difference to buying when price rises above the upper Bollinger Band. It also frees up funds to invest in other things while we wait for a clear movement from BTC.
Buying once the price movement starts will reduce the profits by a great extent compared to buying now.

Buying now has more risks than buying later in an confirmed uptrend; which is what the OP is all about.
as usual: more risk, more (possible) reward ;-)
I don't see why buying now is more riskier than buying later in a confirmed uptrend. The risk might only be a little low and not worth it.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: LMGTFY on December 04, 2015, 11:54:35 AM
Buying once the price movement starts will reduce the profits by a great extent compared to buying now.

Well yeah, obviously. But it's about risk vs. reward - you sacrifice some reward in the hope of reducing risk. Whether the reduced reward is worth it is a judgement call - how far beyond 1300 do you expect price to go? If you believe we're going to reach the current ATH and then fall back shortly after, the reward probably won't make the reduced risk worth it. My feeling is that if we pass the current ATH we're going to see prices go far, far further - and the lost rewards from 350-1300 will be fairly insignificant. I hope so, because I'm in and I'm hodling.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: LMGTFY on December 04, 2015, 11:59:10 AM
I don't see why buying now is more riskier than buying later in a confirmed uptrend. The risk might only be a little low and not worth it.

Because right now we're not in a confirmed uptrend (well, it depends on the timescale. But I don't see an uptrend that'll take us to the moon being confirmed yet). Price could go down, it could go sideways (with the opportunity-loss to match, i.e. funds tied up in BTC going sideways, when they could be invested in something more profitable). Or price could up, of course - in which case you're correct. But we have no way of accurately predicting risk, only ways to manage it. And this strategy is one such way.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: pissedoff on December 04, 2015, 12:03:52 PM
I don't see why buying now is more riskier than buying later in a confirmed uptrend. The risk might only be a little low and not worth it.

Because right now we're not in a confirmed uptrend (well, it depends on the timescale. But I don't see an uptrend that'll take us to the moon being confirmed yet). Price could go down, it could go sideways (with the opportunity-loss to match, i.e. funds tied up in BTC going sideways, when they could be invested in something more profitable). Or price could up, of course - in which case you're correct. But we have no way of accurately predicting risk, only ways to manage it. And this strategy is one such way.
If you use the money to invest it in something more profitable you are taking another layer of risk on your money.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: onemorexmr on December 04, 2015, 12:06:12 PM
IMHO atm BTC is very risky because of scalability, fungibility and sidechains.
as soon as all of them are solved (in whatever way) i expect some serious uptrend; but until then i see BTC as risky.

so for me OP translates to: when price goes above 1300$ all issues are resolved and BTC can unleash its true potential ;-)


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: LMGTFY on December 04, 2015, 12:09:36 PM
I don't see why buying now is more riskier than buying later in a confirmed uptrend. The risk might only be a little low and not worth it.

Because right now we're not in a confirmed uptrend (well, it depends on the timescale. But I don't see an uptrend that'll take us to the moon being confirmed yet). Price could go down, it could go sideways (with the opportunity-loss to match, i.e. funds tied up in BTC going sideways, when they could be invested in something more profitable). Or price could up, of course - in which case you're correct. But we have no way of accurately predicting risk, only ways to manage it. And this strategy is one such way.
If you use the money to invest it in something more profitable you are taking another layer of risk on your money.

Not exactly. You're replacing the risk-of-investing-in-BTC-while-it-goes-sideways with the risk-of-investing-in-other-instrument. There's no getting away from risk, it's the price we pay for reward. The best we can do is manage risk and try and ensure our assessment of risk is consistent with what we believe reward will be. (And in this scenario, the investor believes that not-BTC will outperform BTC).


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Denker on December 04, 2015, 12:10:05 PM
Does the title make any sense?
Why I should I sell now when price is low and buy back in at the top?
Something went completely wrong here. :D
Buy now and hold!And if someone wants to sell, then do it at the top to make profits.
That's how it should be.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: LMGTFY on December 04, 2015, 12:13:35 PM
Does the title make any sense?
Why I should I sell now when price is low and buy back in at the top?
Something went completely wrong here. :D
Buy now and hold!And if someone wants to sell, then do it at the top to make profits.
That's how it should be.

I'm definitely a buyer/hodler too. But there are traders who'll tell you we're wrong, because we sacrifice the potential to make even more profit by buying dips/selling peaks.

It's similar here. This strategy makes no sense to us, because it requires the investor to sacrifice all that goodness we get from holding now. But for someone with less confidence in BTC, or who has other, potentially more lucrative investments they could park their funds in for a while - this strategy is worth consideration.

Edit: spelled "hodl" wrong. Is "hold" even a word?!


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: pissedoff on December 04, 2015, 12:19:50 PM
Does the title make any sense?
Why I should I sell now when price is low and buy back in at the top?
Something went completely wrong here. :D
Buy now and hold!And if someone wants to sell, then do it at the top to make profits.
That's how it should be.

I'm definitely a buyer/hodler too. But there are traders who'll tell you we're wrong, because we sacrifice the potential to make even more profit by buying dips/selling peaks.

It's similar here. This strategy makes no sense to us, because it requires the investor to sacrifice all that goodness we get from holding now. But for someone with less confidence in BTC, or who has other, potentially more lucrative investments they could park their funds in for a while - this strategy is worth consideration.

Edit: spelled "hodl" wrong. Is "hold" even a word?!
Yeah "hold" is a word. Source of information: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hold?s=t


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Lokfar on December 04, 2015, 12:44:35 PM
Anyone with a decent IQ would know that this is just a dumb idea and strategy

Why would you not buy right now and make incredible profits later on?


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Soros Shorts on December 04, 2015, 01:21:15 PM
Anyone with a decent IQ would know that this is just a dumb idea and strategy

Why would you not buy right now and make incredible profits later on?

This is a common strategy in momentum stock trading. You buy a stock that breaks past its all time high and sell it when it stops making gains. Then you look for another stock to make the same pattern and buy that. The idea is that your capital is only tied up in stocks that are moving and you ignore those that are languishing and going nowhere.

However, if you are only focused on Bitcoin then this strategy does not make sense.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Hashminers on December 04, 2015, 03:22:49 PM
Anyone with a decent IQ would know that this is just a dumb idea and strategy

Why would you not buy right now and make incredible profits later on?

This is a common strategy in momentum stock trading. You buy a stock that breaks past its all time high and sell it when it stops making gains. Then you look for another stock to make the same pattern and buy that. The idea is that your capital is only tied up in stocks that are moving and you ignore those that are languishing and going nowhere.

However, if you are only focused on Bitcoin then this strategy does not make sense.

Wow I need to learn about bitcoin more or that stock trading.
This suggestion buying for a high price and sell it with a low price is just not for me. I can't afford this amount of money.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Dilla on December 04, 2015, 03:28:17 PM
This is the dumbest thing I've read in a while


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: gentlemand on December 04, 2015, 11:04:52 PM

so for me OP translates to: when price goes above 1300$ all issues are resolved and BTC can unleash its true potential ;-)

I don't think the bots and whales really care at all about the technological conditions. I'll bet a few of them don't have the slightest clue how Bitcoin works. If there's significant money to be milked then the price will rise. It wasn't far off that a couple of years ago and nothing was resolved then.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: niallo27 on December 04, 2015, 11:23:36 PM
I can see the op point though. A big price gain like this would mean serious respect and power for bitcoin overall and it would still be early enough to invest.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on December 04, 2015, 11:35:29 PM
Ummmm yeah this sounds like the most retarded idea ever. I'm ok HODLING thanks. Feel free to follow your own advice though ;D


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: lindin99 on December 05, 2015, 06:14:59 AM
That's an interesting approach specially since BTC reached the ~$1000 mark before but the momentum wasn't strong enough and it fell to aroud the hundreds so it's about a 75% loss if someone did that before. I think BTC has potential of hitting that mark again this year because of the increased adoption and publicity but I doubt it will go much higher.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: lixer on December 05, 2015, 10:48:41 AM
That's an interesting approach specially since BTC reached the ~$1000 mark before but the momentum wasn't strong enough and it fell to aroud the hundreds so it's about a 75% loss if someone did that before. I think BTC has potential of hitting that mark again this year because of the increased adoption and publicity but I doubt it will go much higher.

Yes, bitcoin has all the required potential to hit again $1000 levels. Hopefully by the time of halving it will again reach that mark. We can witness the increased adoption of bitcoin compared to 2013, so there are lot of possibilities to a stable price above $1000 once bitcoin prices hit it.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: BitAurum on December 05, 2015, 11:06:52 AM
That's an interesting approach you got there op. But what is guaranteeing that the bitcoin price won't fall after we buy.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: pissedoff on December 05, 2015, 11:23:44 AM
That's an interesting approach you got there op. But what is guaranteeing that the bitcoin price won't fall after we buy.
There is no guarantee that the bitcoin price will continue to rise after you buy them. Like all investments this has risks.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Toxic2040 on December 05, 2015, 11:25:00 AM
That's an interesting approach you got there op. But what is guaranteeing that the bitcoin price won't fall after we buy.

Nothing. Scientia est potestas.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: pissedoff on December 05, 2015, 11:25:35 AM

so for me OP translates to: when price goes above 1300$ all issues are resolved and BTC can unleash its true potential ;-)

I don't think the bots and whales really care at all about the technological conditions. I'll bet a few of them don't have the slightest clue how Bitcoin works. If there's significant money to be milked then the price will rise. It wasn't far off that a couple of years ago and nothing was resolved then.
The bots or at least the ones who wrote the software for the bot needs to have a deep understanding of how Bitcoin works.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: jehst on December 05, 2015, 02:12:12 PM
That's an interesting approach specially since BTC reached the ~$1000 mark before but the momentum wasn't strong enough and it fell to aroud the hundreds so it's about a 75% loss if someone did that before. I think BTC has potential of hitting that mark again this year because of the increased adoption and publicity but I doubt it will go much higher.

It is more comparable to buying at $32 in January 2013 or buying at $267 in October 2013.

It is surpassing the previous all-time high that indicates the momentum. It is not a difficult concept.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Pollak on December 05, 2015, 03:20:58 PM
I can see the op point though. A big price gain like this would mean serious respect and power for bitcoin overall and it would still be early enough to invest.

I don't see how this would be a good idea. What about the profits you could've made if you were just to hold right now?
Maybe when you're investing in different markets, this would work but not if you're just in it for bitcoin.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: UnDerDoG81 on December 05, 2015, 03:33:17 PM
Sounds like a good way to sell the bottom and buy the top..

Yeah we all did that  :D


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: niallo27 on December 05, 2015, 04:05:16 PM
I can see the op point though. A big price gain like this would mean serious respect and power for bitcoin overall and it would still be early enough to invest.

I don't see how this would be a good idea. What about the profits you could've made if you were just to hold right now?
Maybe when you're investing in different markets, this would work but not if you're just in it for bitcoin.

Yes but think of all the money you would save IF bitcoin never takes off and slowly drifts away to nothing.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Slark on December 05, 2015, 05:10:42 PM

so for me OP translates to: when price goes above 1300$ all issues are resolved and BTC can unleash its true potential ;-)

Price alone is not good enough. We had price over 1000 before, and Bitcoin wasn't in its 'full potential either. If we reach over $1000 once again it will spike caused by traders, trading bots and speculators.
After that price will go immediately go down, because most of us will sell at $1000, me included.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: fravia on December 05, 2015, 05:38:20 PM
i believe that in the future for example in 2 or 3 years the price might be that high so i believe that i should save all the bitcoins i have and not buy anything though if the price would go down i would loose all the money i have so i dont know what would be the best decision to do in such case


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: rogerwilco on December 05, 2015, 09:16:45 PM
I personally wouldn't do it because I'm not a trader, but the idea in principle isn't as unsound as everyone makes it out to be.

Obviously, if Bitcoin were guaranteed to make it to $1300, then there's no reason at all to sell until that point. But we're all constantly being told that Bitcoin is risky and could go to zero. So if you concede that point at all, then there certainly is potential value to be had by selling now.

The idea of the OP is that, if Bitcoin were to ever hit $1300, then it would likely not only be far less risky at that moment, but almost surely a great investment set to rise, say, another 3-4x. This idea is founded on the pattern that each new ATH creates a bubble that always reaches several multiples higher than the previous one. Right now, it's relatively uncertain whether such a bubble will even get a chance to form.

It's a game of perceived percentages. For example, perhaps you think Bitcoin is terribly risky now, with an 80% chance of failure and a 20% chance of achieving another bubble to, say, $3000. That's an expected return of ($3000)*(0.2) = $600 per coin. At a price of $377, that's a 59.2% return, but you also take on the risk of wildly high volatility.

But say right now you also think that, if it were indeed to reach $1300, it would almost have to be in the middle of a meteoric rise. If right now, you think that hitting $1300 would provide a 20% chance of failure and an 80% chance of reaching $3000, then the expected return would be (3000)*(0.8) = $2400 per coin. At a price of $1300, you get an expected return of 84.6%, not just a higher percentage but also with lower volatility. A much better buy.

Of course, all of this analysis depends not only on your perception of the asset, but on your perception of your future perception of the asset. If this doesn't match your perception, then this strategy isn't for you.

Edit: There's also the time factor. Who knows when that 59.6% will happen, as we're currently waiting indefinitely for a new bubble. But the 84.6% would be gained during a bubble that already started, and so would be pretty much instant.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: lexuz on December 05, 2015, 11:05:42 PM

so for me OP translates to: when price goes above 1300$ all issues are resolved and BTC can unleash its true potential ;-)

Price alone is not good enough. We had price over 1000 before, and Bitcoin wasn't in its 'full potential either. If we reach over $1000 once again it will spike caused by traders, trading bots and speculators.
After that price will go immediately go down, because most of us will sell at $1000, me included.

If we hit price over $1000 again, yeah many people will sell but not all because in the other side some people will thinking bitcoin can touch level more than $1500


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: onemorexmr on December 05, 2015, 11:42:18 PM

so for me OP translates to: when price goes above 1300$ all issues are resolved and BTC can unleash its true potential ;-)

Price alone is not good enough. We had price over 1000 before, and Bitcoin wasn't in its 'full potential either. If we reach over $1000 once again it will spike caused by traders, trading bots and speculators.
After that price will go immediately go down, because most of us will sell at $1000, me included.


i think the market decides if these issues are resolved or not.
if we go above latest ATH without any changes dont you think that the market just said: bitcoin is fine as-is?


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: chesthing on December 05, 2015, 11:51:54 PM
I'm a shit trader, but this advice makes me look brilliant.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: hunnaryb on December 06, 2015, 07:26:06 AM
Given the eyes on Bitcoin now. It would be hard to believe we'll see anywhere near 1000 for a good while.

I'm sorry for all the people who bought high, but right now, its already above a fair price for BTC.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Zicadis on January 08, 2016, 09:51:00 AM

so for me OP translates to: when price goes above 1300$ all issues are resolved and BTC can unleash its true potential ;-)

Price alone is not good enough. We had price over 1000 before, and Bitcoin wasn't in its 'full potential either. If we reach over $1000 once again it will spike caused by traders, trading bots and speculators.
After that price will go immediately go down, because most of us will sell at $1000, me included.


Price alone is not enough. We need more users of bitcoin. The more user, the higher the price. More people know bitcoin now.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Omikifuse on January 08, 2016, 09:52:27 AM
Then cryptsy collapses when price reaches 1300 and you'll lose big, while you could profit by selling at the $1300 top


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Newcoins2020 on January 08, 2016, 10:26:14 AM
Why would I do that? Does that make profit? I don't think so, the most of people here always goes for profit and that is buy low sell high. I know if you buy 1300 dollar maybe bitcoin will have a good changes to grow, but people just love to make profit so we will see.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: 1Referee on January 08, 2016, 10:39:25 AM
It's good fun to see that people are commenting very seriously on this thread while OP is just trolling and having a good laugh while reading all posts.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: newcoins1978 on January 08, 2016, 11:11:51 AM
There's no way that I would want to miss that large of a profit.
I see no upside to selling now and buying at $1300 again
Who knows what will happen when bitcoin reaches $1000, it could go down to a solid $700 and stay there for who knows how long.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Altynbekova on January 08, 2016, 11:15:52 AM
I will never to that except if 1300 dollars will be a stable price.
With that kind of amount I won't make a profit.
I just better sell it when the price is high and buy when is low.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Dwelach on January 08, 2016, 12:28:05 PM
HUH? Why is that right to buy so high amount I think with that I will just lose my money.
I don't think that bitcoin price will be fast to increase and a shot time.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Zicadis on January 21, 2016, 11:00:51 AM
I will never to that except if 1300 dollars will be a stable price.
With that kind of amount I won't make a profit.
I just better sell it when the price is high and buy when is low.

We can buy now and sell at $1300. And then sell at $1300 and buy at $600. The price of bitcoin is too volatile.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: jt byte on January 21, 2016, 11:04:57 AM
I will never to that except if 1300 dollars will be a stable price.
With that kind of amount I won't make a profit.
I just better sell it when the price is high and buy when is low.

We can buy now and sell at $1300. And then sell at $1300 and buy at $600. The price of bitcoin is too volatile.

Well if that happens that bitcoin go to 1300 dollars you can be never to sure that bitcoin just go up that high.
Is just better to earn bitcoin or buy and trade or just wait until you think is a good amount to sell.

Some people just want to hold for the future, because they believe it will just increase.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: partysaurus on January 21, 2016, 12:13:54 PM
Advantages: If the price reaches $1300, then there is strong momentum and it will probably go much higher.
If the price doesn't reach $1300, then bitcoin failed or something seriously went wrong. You will save yourself a lot of time and money.

Disadvantages: You miss the gains from 350 to 1300


i rather keep my btc dont have that much anyway around 3 , and risk loosing them all and watch the value increase up until 1300, instead of selling now and buy like 1 btc at 1300 for that money lol and not earned anything from the rise to 1300.......


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: K128kevin2 on January 21, 2016, 01:19:23 PM
If Bitcoin were to stay at the price it is at now for the next 10 years, it would be WAY more successful than if it skyrocketed (and then, inevitably crashed). A high Bitcoin price does NOT equal the success of Bitcoin. In fact, volatility dissuades people from adopting it as a currency. A very stable, slow, and gradual incline would be the best indicator of success. Something like a 5% or so rise in price per year - higher than inflation rate forbids, but low and stable enough that it is predictable.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Altynbekova on January 21, 2016, 01:30:55 PM
Advantages: If the price reaches $1300, then there is strong momentum and it will probably go much higher.
If the price doesn't reach $1300, then bitcoin failed or something seriously went wrong. You will save yourself a lot of time and money.

Disadvantages: You miss the gains from 350 to 1300


i rather keep my btc dont have that much anyway around 3 , and risk loosing them all and watch the value increase up until 1300, instead of selling now and buy like 1 btc at 1300 for that money lol and not earned anything from the rise to 1300.......

So that is why people is always going to buy low and sell high that is never profitable.
I will just rather collect or earning bitcoins than buying that amount.

I wish I was that reach so that I can just risk my money.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: praprata on January 21, 2016, 02:33:55 PM
Advantages: If the price reaches $1300, then there is strong momentum and it will probably go much higher.
If the price doesn't reach $1300, then bitcoin failed or something seriously went wrong. You will save yourself a lot of time and money.

Disadvantages: You miss the gains from 350 to 1300


i rather keep my btc dont have that much anyway around 3 , and risk loosing them all and watch the value increase up until 1300, instead of selling now and buy like 1 btc at 1300 for that money lol and not earned anything from the rise to 1300.......

So that is why people is always going to buy low and sell high that is never profitable.
I will just rather collect or earning bitcoins than buying that amount.

I wish I was that reach so that I can just risk my money.

I see that you don't have that muc bitcoin you should try to collect more with your signature campaign I think a couple of weeks I think you will get 1 bitcoin that is better that just doing some faucets.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: LuckyYOU on January 21, 2016, 02:49:17 PM
If Bitcoin were to stay at the price it is at now for the next 10 years, it would be WAY more successful than if it skyrocketed (and then, inevitably crashed). A high Bitcoin price does NOT equal the success of Bitcoin. In fact, volatility dissuades people from adopting it as a currency. A very stable, slow, and gradual incline would be the best indicator of success. Something like a 5% or so rise in price per year - higher than inflation rate forbids, but low and stable enough that it is predictable.

This is true, but unfortunately that's now how the bitcoin market works at all.
Bitcoin grows and goes up and down again.
It's because supply is limited and demand could come and go.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Bitcoinbro on January 21, 2016, 03:17:00 PM
Advantages: If the price reaches $1300, then there is strong momentum and it will probably go much higher.
If the price doesn't reach $1300, then bitcoin failed or something seriously went wrong. You will save yourself a lot of time and money.

Disadvantages: You miss the gains from 350 to 1300


i rather keep my btc dont have that much anyway around 3 , and risk loosing them all and watch the value increase up until 1300, instead of selling now and buy like 1 btc at 1300 for that money lol and not earned anything from the rise to 1300.......

I think OP is referring this to people who are having high investments into bitcoin
For those people it's easier to buy back once they've sold.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: MissionPhailed on January 21, 2016, 04:40:40 PM
I too kinda see the logic in OP's statement; take advantage of the momentum created by a consistent rising value. You'd say its better then waiting for the price to drop below a certain point to actually buy in, while the value in fact rises to unthinkable heights and you're left in the dust and in the worst cases in the loony bin. But as said before: its not a reliable method and for 99% of the traders its akin to gambling. Its impossible to predict when the momentum ends.

I've tried both options and neither yielded fantastic results. At least I didn't ended up in a loony bin  ;)


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: trickshot22 on February 16, 2016, 12:53:09 PM
don't risk, buy while cheap and sell when expenciv,e liek now, 1 btc 400$ but halving wil increase price to 700$


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Dilla on February 16, 2016, 12:56:25 PM
I'll take the risk and buy now. Much more upside potential if the price increases, and less of a lose if the price tanks.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: bajing on February 16, 2016, 01:05:56 PM
i would buy bitcoin if price reach to $1300 again, can you tell me when this will happen. so we in here can prefer to buy bitcoin and enjoy the profit like you said price will back again to $1300


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: LuckyYOU on February 16, 2016, 03:50:09 PM
I think the best option is that you are going to buy now. Because the price is now very low, so it is now very cheap for bitcoin.
If you are now buying bitcoin for a low price, and bitcoin will rise later then you will get a lot of profit.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Asrael999 on February 16, 2016, 03:53:55 PM

so for me OP translates to: when price goes above 1300$ all issues are resolved and BTC can unleash its true potential ;-)

Price alone is not good enough. We had price over 1000 before, and Bitcoin wasn't in its 'full potential either. If we reach over $1000 once again it will spike caused by traders, trading bots and speculators.
After that price will go immediately go down, because most of us will sell at $1000, me included.


Price alone is not enough. We need more users of bitcoin. The more user, the higher the price. More people know bitcoin now.
and the more users we have the bigger the block we'll need and ..... oh


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: MaritiJames3 on February 16, 2016, 04:09:03 PM

so for me OP translates to: when price goes above 1300$ all issues are resolved and BTC can unleash its true potential ;-)

Price alone is not good enough. We had price over 1000 before, and Bitcoin wasn't in its 'full potential either. If we reach over $1000 once again it will spike caused by traders, trading bots and speculators.
After that price will go immediately go down, because most of us will sell at $1000, me included.


Price alone is not enough. We need more users of bitcoin. The more user, the higher the price. More people know bitcoin now.

Its true, we need more people using the bitcoin, it will happen but its just a matter of time.
The bitcoin is already getting more popular by day, but the media is making the bitcoin looking bad.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: dothebeats on February 16, 2016, 04:47:15 PM

so for me OP translates to: when price goes above 1300$ all issues are resolved and BTC can unleash its true potential ;-)

Price alone is not good enough. We had price over 1000 before, and Bitcoin wasn't in its 'full potential either. If we reach over $1000 once again it will spike caused by traders, trading bots and speculators.
After that price will go immediately go down, because most of us will sell at $1000, me included.


Price alone is not enough. We need more users of bitcoin. The more user, the higher the price. More people know bitcoin now.

Its true, we need more people using the bitcoin, it will happen but its just a matter of time.
The bitcoin is already getting more popular by day, but the media is making the bitcoin looking bad.

What the media is doing is exaggerating the things that are happening within the community. What's happening is already bad, and the media is making it look badder by just letting people view a single POV. Also, that negative sentiment is what drives this market into bearish mode.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: LMGTFY on February 17, 2016, 09:32:41 AM
i would buy bitcoin if price reach to $1300 again, can you tell me when this will happen. so we in here can prefer to buy bitcoin and enjoy the profit like you said price will back again to $1300

I'm not convinced you've read the OP's actual post...

Advantages: If the price reaches $1300, then there is strong momentum and it will probably go much higher.
If the price doesn't reach $1300, then bitcoin failed or something seriously went wrong. You will save yourself a lot of time and money.

Disadvantages: You miss the gains from 350 to 1300



Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Yassarsian on February 25, 2016, 12:32:52 PM
I will do the reverse. I will buy now and hold it for the long term. I would like to sell way above $1300.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: bitcoin-hunter on February 25, 2016, 01:24:11 PM
That will be stupid if you are doing that. The value is now low so it is now good to make an investment.
And if the value has rise then you must sell it. So make you profit and that will be good. You have some more money later in the future.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Zicadis on February 29, 2016, 01:11:21 PM
That will be stupid if you are doing that. The value is now low so it is now good to make an investment.
And if the value has rise then you must sell it. So make you profit and that will be good. You have some more money later in the future.

That is a good idea. I think the price is very low at present.

After halving, the price will be much higher, could be $1000 or more.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: sishendaoye on February 29, 2016, 02:39:56 PM

so for me OP translates to: when price goes above 1300$ all issues are resolved and BTC can unleash its true potential ;-)

Price alone is not good enough. We had price over 1000 before, and Bitcoin wasn't in its 'full potential either. If we reach over $1000 once again it will spike caused by traders, trading bots and speculators.
After that price will go immediately go down, because most of us will sell at $1000, me included.


Price alone is not enough. We need more users of bitcoin. The more user, the higher the price. More people know bitcoin now.

Its true, we need more people using the bitcoin, it will happen but its just a matter of time.
The bitcoin is already getting more popular by day, but the media is making the bitcoin looking bad.

What the media is doing is exaggerating the things that are happening within the community. What's happening is already bad, and the media is making it look badder by just letting people view a single POV. Also, that negative sentiment is what drives this market into bearish mode.
Why buying at a high price. That is not good. Than it is very hard to make some profit later in the future.
You must invest it with a low price. That is very good to do. And sell it when the value is high.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: praprata on February 29, 2016, 02:42:36 PM
That will be stupid if you are doing that. The value is now low so it is now good to make an investment.
And if the value has rise then you must sell it. So make you profit and that will be good. You have some more money later in the future.

That is a good idea. I think the price is very low at present.

After halving, the price will be much higher, could be $1000 or more.

Indeed, its good to just hold your bitcoins, and than wait till the halving has been done, when you than sell them you will make a lot of profit because of the halving that has been.

You should not sell your bitcoin now it would be very stupid due to the future the bitcoin itself has.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: n0ne on February 29, 2016, 03:12:20 PM
That will be stupid if you are doing that. The value is now low so it is now good to make an investment.
And if the value has rise then you must sell it. So make you profit and that will be good. You have some more money later in the future.

That is a good idea. I think the price is very low at present.

After halving, the price will be much higher, could be $1000 or more.

Indeed, its good to just hold your bitcoins, and than wait till the halving has been done, when you than sell them you will make a lot of profit because of the halving that has been.

You should not sell your bitcoin now it would be very stupid due to the future the bitcoin itself has.

Its a good idea to hold as the halving is fast approaching. You can hold if you are not using the bitcoin for you daily living. I have seen most of the users are getting into trade just to make their living.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: ultimatesky on February 29, 2016, 03:53:24 PM
I think its not good to that because its a big number so why you should do it, I think holding is the best thing you can do nowadays.
Also the fact that the halving is coming why should you do that I think holding the bitcoin is now the best option you can choose.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: makingwin1 on March 03, 2016, 06:13:47 AM
first of all, i don't think that it will go to $1300 anytime soon,  and second, in that time it will go so high, i'll make a lot of money from buying cheap selling expencive now


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: redsun114 on March 03, 2016, 06:26:16 AM
first of all, i don't think that it will go to $1300 anytime soon,  and second, in that time it will go so high, i'll make a lot of money from buying cheap selling expencive now
But I see bitcoin prices may reach $1300 price levels by the time around block reward halving. But I never recommend sell off your bitcoins even now or at $1000+ levels. When you aim $10,000 price levels these are just a good buying prices only.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Mitchow on March 03, 2016, 09:37:38 AM
first of all, i don't think that it will go to $1300 anytime soon,  and second, in that time it will go so high, i'll make a lot of money from buying cheap selling expencive now
But I see bitcoin prices may reach $1300 price levels by the time around block reward halving. But I never recommend sell off your bitcoins even now or at $1000+ levels. When you aim $10,000 price levels these are just a good buying prices only.

It won't reach that high at the time of halving I guess, I think it will reach by $700 after the halving, expecting that it will reach $1300 in next few months would be impossible, it will take long time to reach to that value.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Yassarsian on March 09, 2016, 09:51:14 PM
first of all, i don't think that it will go to $1300 anytime soon,  and second, in that time it will go so high, i'll make a lot of money from buying cheap selling expencive now
But I see bitcoin prices may reach $1300 price levels by the time around block reward halving. But I never recommend sell off your bitcoins even now or at $1000+ levels. When you aim $10,000 price levels these are just a good buying prices only.

It won't reach that high at the time of halving I guess, I think it will reach by $700 after the halving, expecting that it will reach $1300 in next few months would be impossible, it will take long time to reach to that value.

$700 to $800 after halving is not an unreachable target. If the block size is increased to 4MB or higher this year, the price will be higher.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: a7mos on March 10, 2016, 12:00:46 AM
$700 to $800 after halving is not an unreachable target. If the block size is increased to 4MB or higher this year, the price will be higher.

A 4 mb block size seems to be impossible to happened specially in the next few months. Because the community did not agree even about 2 mb block size. So a 4mb would be harder of course to be applied


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: ingiltere on March 10, 2016, 12:45:17 AM
That's a pretty stooopid advice. Don't listen to him guys, don't sell your precious coins to these greedy hoarders. :)
Hold your coins and wait for price jump. We'll eventually see 1300+ in the long term.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Pab on March 10, 2016, 02:42:52 AM
Just best trading advice ever if bitcoin will stop at current price will be great stable price means value overcome speculation stable price will bring merchants biggest part of btc price is still speculation


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: talks_cheep on March 10, 2016, 04:47:54 AM
I think he meant $130. So, let me fix the title:

Sell now and buy again at $130.

I mean, there's no way it's going to $1300. Any sane person knows that.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: LMGTFY on March 10, 2016, 09:07:30 AM
I think he meant $130. So, let me fix the title:

Sell now and buy again at $130.

I mean, there's no way it's going to $1300. Any sane person knows that.

If you're correct, then the OP's $1300 "advice" is sound, no? We invest in other, more profitable ventures "until" BTC/USD reaches $1300, right? Or are you saying that (a) price will never reach $1300 but (b) keep our money invested in BTC regardless, just for old times' sake?

Edit: (from the OP): "If the price doesn't reach $1300, then bitcoin failed or something seriously went wrong. You will save yourself a lot of time and money."


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: fearlesscat10 on March 10, 2016, 09:48:33 AM

so for me OP translates to: when price goes above 1300$ all issues are resolved and BTC can unleash its true potential ;-)

Price alone is not good enough. We had price over 1000 before, and Bitcoin wasn't in its 'full potential either. If we reach over $1000 once again it will spike caused by traders, trading bots and speculators.
After that price will go immediately go down, because most of us will sell at $1000, me included.


Price alone is not enough. We need more users of bitcoin. The more user, the higher the price. More people know bitcoin now.
and the more users we have the bigger the block we'll need and ..... oh

But isn't the real problem GETTING the price to 1300?


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: justspare on March 10, 2016, 10:00:10 AM
Are you like stupid or something? I get that you are trying to help us not lose our money, but selling now would make us lose a lot as well in terms of the profits that we could get. Thanks, but no thanks.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: GermanFoobla on March 10, 2016, 02:10:21 PM
No its is not good to sell now. You are weird mate. It will be wasted money and that will be not good.
I hope that you will sell it on a high value and that you are going to but it with a low value that is the smart thing.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: LMGTFY on March 10, 2016, 03:06:46 PM
Are you like stupid or something? I get that you are trying to help us not lose our money, but selling now would make us lose a lot as well in terms of the profits that we could get. Thanks, but no thanks.

Is that the royal-we? Because if I sold now I'd make a lot.

Different people have different strategies for investing - my strategy with BTC is mostly buy-and-hold. Some people trade far more frequently than me - for them my approach is strange and confusing, because I forego the profits I could make if I traded frequently.

Other people might think my strategy is too risky - they don't know that BTC is going to rise, there are no clear indicators that it will, etc (not saying I agree with them - obviously I don't - but different people analyse the market and arrive at different conclusions). For them, waiting for a clear indication that the market is rising is a good idea. A clear indication like price rising above the previous ATH.

It's this latter group who would benefit from the OP's advice.

The OP isn't stupid - it's just that their advice is strange and confusing for some people. The solution is to follow your own strategy - it'll be far more effective than assuming the OP is stupid.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: john2231 on March 10, 2016, 04:11:01 PM
Are you like stupid or something? I get that you are trying to help us not lose our money, but selling now would make us lose a lot as well in terms of the profits that we could get. Thanks, but no thanks.

Is that the royal-we? Because if I sold now I'd make a lot.

Different people have different strategies for investing - my strategy with BTC is mostly buy-and-hold. Some people trade far more frequently than me - for them my approach is strange and confusing, because I forego the profits I could make if I traded frequently.

Other people might think my strategy is too risky - they don't know that BTC is going to rise, there are no clear indicators that it will, etc (not saying I agree with them - obviously I don't - but different people analyse the market and arrive at different conclusions). For them, waiting for a clear indication that the market is rising is a good idea. A clear indication like price rising above the previous ATH.

It's this latter group who would benefit from the OP's advice.

The OP isn't stupid - it's just that their advice is strange and confusing for some people. The solution is to follow your own strategy - it'll be far more effective than assuming the OP is stupid.
I agree with this reply  op's is not really stupid and  all opinions here is just an advice or suggestion.
In fact some times they are correct but sometimes they are wrong.. Because we can not see the reality if what will happen in the future.. Its just a nature of bitcoin that There's price pump and there's a dump price.. We are not the same speculation and if you don't want the advice from others don't be rude from op's its better to say thanks..


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: martinacar on March 10, 2016, 04:22:05 PM
No its is not good to sell now. You are weird mate. It will be wasted money and that will be not good.
I hope that you will sell it on a high value and that you are going to but it with a low value that is the smart thing.

You are right selling now is stupid because of the halving that is coming its not smart to sell on this moment in my opinion.
I think its better to just hold them and wait for a price increase.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: JosNekoKopa on March 10, 2016, 04:27:38 PM
I would be happy finishing 2016 at $600. That would still be more growth than any other item in my portfolio. In fact, I can't think of anything likely to almost double in a year.
This is what we can call realistic prediction. We shall see more or less peaks that will last for a seconds, and you can't count this as real price. But will be will be very exciting to see this. Still there is much opportunity earn money in time around halving.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: sishendaoye on March 10, 2016, 05:01:40 PM

so for me OP translates to: when price goes above 1300$ all issues are resolved and BTC can unleash its true potential ;-)

Price alone is not good enough. We had price over 1000 before, and Bitcoin wasn't in its 'full potential either. If we reach over $1000 once again it will spike caused by traders, trading bots and speculators.
After that price will go immediately go down, because most of us will sell at $1000, me included.


Price alone is not enough. We need more users of bitcoin. The more user, the higher the price. More people know bitcoin now.
and the more users we have the bigger the block we'll need and ..... oh

But isn't the real problem GETTING the price to 1300?

Well the price can go to the 1300 but this year its indeed very unlikely that this will happen.
Also another fact is why should you sell them if you can hold them and make a lot of profit at the halving ?


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Farma on March 10, 2016, 05:03:40 PM
No its is not good to sell now. You are weird mate. It will be wasted money and that will be not good.
I hope that you will sell it on a high value and that you are going to but it with a low value that is the smart thing.

You are right selling now is stupid because of the halving that is coming its not smart to sell on this moment in my opinion.
I think its better to just hold them and wait for a price increase.
yes, perhaps the price will be higher in a few months, a thought that stupid to sell it all now, you're probably going to lose, expect that in a few months the price of bitcoin become more $ 500


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: darkmagician on March 10, 2016, 05:15:13 PM
sell at 440 and buy at 370 ,easy profit.but it will take some days or month for bitcoin to go at 370. but when bitcoin starts to get down its so fast but when it goes up just like a turtle going up slowly but surely.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: n0ne on March 11, 2016, 08:22:38 AM
No its is not good to sell now. You are weird mate. It will be wasted money and that will be not good.
I hope that you will sell it on a high value and that you are going to but it with a low value that is the smart thing.

You are right selling now is stupid because of the halving that is coming its not smart to sell on this moment in my opinion.
I think its better to just hold them and wait for a price increase.
yes, perhaps the price will be higher in a few months, a thought that stupid to sell it all now, you're probably going to lose, expect that in a few months the price of bitcoin become more $ 500

With this progression we will easily touch $500 in a short term. Selling now seems to be idiotic, buying is more profitable.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: sishendaoye on March 11, 2016, 08:39:57 AM
No its is not good to sell now. You are weird mate. It will be wasted money and that will be not good.
I hope that you will sell it on a high value and that you are going to but it with a low value that is the smart thing.

You are right selling now is stupid because of the halving that is coming its not smart to sell on this moment in my opinion.
I think its better to just hold them and wait for a price increase.
yes, perhaps the price will be higher in a few months, a thought that stupid to sell it all now, you're probably going to lose, expect that in a few months the price of bitcoin become more $ 500

With this progression we will easily touch $500 in a short term. Selling now seems to be idiotic, buying is more profitable.

I'm thinking the same, the price can go to a much higher amount in a short time, the 500 dollar is in our hand reach.
The bitcoin will go to a high amount for sure so holding them now is pretty good to do.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Yassarsian on April 01, 2016, 03:10:53 PM
No its is not good to sell now. You are weird mate. It will be wasted money and that will be not good.
I hope that you will sell it on a high value and that you are going to but it with a low value that is the smart thing.

You are right selling now is stupid because of the halving that is coming its not smart to sell on this moment in my opinion.
I think its better to just hold them and wait for a price increase.
yes, perhaps the price will be higher in a few months, a thought that stupid to sell it all now, you're probably going to lose, expect that in a few months the price of uᴉoɔʇᴉq become more $ 500

With this progression we will easily touch $500 in a short term. Selling now seems to be idiotic, buying is more profitable.

I'm thinking the same, the price can go to a much higher amount in a short time, the 500 dollar is in our hand reach.
The uᴉoɔʇᴉq will go to a high amount for sure so holding them now is pretty good to do.


The $500 can be reached before July the halving time. We might not reach £1300 by the end of the year.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Zicadis on April 07, 2016, 09:34:11 AM
No its is not good to sell now. You are weird mate. It will be wasted money and that will be not good.
I hope that you will sell it on a high value and that you are going to but it with a low value that is the smart thing.

You are right selling now is stupid because of the halving that is coming its not smart to sell on this moment in my opinion.
I think its better to just hold them and wait for a price increase.
yes, perhaps the price will be higher in a few months, a thought that stupid to sell it all now, you're probably going to lose, expect that in a few months the price of uᴉoɔʇᴉq become more $ 500

With this progression we will easily touch $500 in a short term. Selling now seems to be idiotic, buying is more profitable.

I'm thinking the same, the price can go to a much higher amount in a short time, the 500 dollar is in our hand reach.
The uᴉoɔʇᴉq will go to a high amount for sure so holding them now is pretty good to do.


The $500 can be reached before July the halving time. We might not reach £1300 by the end of the year.

I think the $500 price range can be reached later May or early June. That is just 25% more than current price.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: KennyR on April 07, 2016, 01:01:54 PM
No its is not good to sell now. You are weird mate. It will be wasted money and that will be not good.
I hope that you will sell it on a high value and that you are going to but it with a low value that is the smart thing.

You are right selling now is stupid because of the halving that is coming its not smart to sell on this moment in my opinion.
I think its better to just hold them and wait for a price increase.
yes, perhaps the price will be higher in a few months, a thought that stupid to sell it all now, you're probably going to lose, expect that in a few months the price of uᴉoɔʇᴉq become more $ 500

With this progression we will easily touch $500 in a short term. Selling now seems to be idiotic, buying is more profitable.

I'm thinking the same, the price can go to a much higher amount in a short time, the 500 dollar is in our hand reach.
The uᴉoɔʇᴉq will go to a high amount for sure so holding them now is pretty good to do.


The $500 can be reached before July the halving time. We might not reach £1300 by the end of the year.

If halving gives a price increase around $800 to $900, then we can expect bitcoin price around $1000 to $1100 by the end of 2016.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: 0day on April 07, 2016, 05:52:59 PM
No its is not good to sell now. You are weird mate. It will be wasted money and that will be not good.
I hope that you will sell it on a high value and that you are going to but it with a low value that is the smart thing.

It will be the losing of the opportunity to earn with the coming halving,
I will suggest that buy now and then sell at $1300, So that you will be benefited with 3X the value of your money.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Yassarsian on April 24, 2016, 07:04:18 PM
No its is not good to sell now. You are weird mate. It will be wasted money and that will be not good.
I hope that you will sell it on a high value and that you are going to but it with a low value that is the smart thing.

It will be the losing of the opportunity to earn with the coming halving,
I will suggest that buy now and then sell at $1300, So that you will be benefited with 3X the value of your money.

That is a very good suggestion. If we can buy now at $430 and sell at $1300, that is almost 300% profit.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: buyinbtc on April 24, 2016, 07:50:19 PM
No its is not good to sell now. You are weird mate. It will be wasted money and that will be not good.
I hope that you will sell it on a high value and that you are going to but it with a low value that is the smart thing.

It will be the losing of the opportunity to earn with the coming halving,
I will suggest that buy now and then sell at $1300, So that you will be benefited with 3X the value of your money.

That is a very good suggestion. If we can buy now at $430 and sell at $1300, that is almost 300% profit.
yeah, thats why im buying all my bitcoins right now and im not waiting to any price drops as they will simply not happen in the future, hopefully right now the only way is up and i will make some good money


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Zicadis on April 29, 2016, 07:49:27 AM
I will buy at price below $440. Then I will hold the bitocoin for long term. If there is big pump, I will sell.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Dwelach on May 31, 2016, 07:24:43 AM
HUH? Why is that right to buy so high amount I think with that I will just lose my money. I don't think that bitcoin price will be fast to increase and a shot time.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: BitsandBites on May 31, 2016, 08:16:34 AM
I would not buy for $1300 that is to much for me but it is true that you can make more money with it. I would just buy know and wait for the price to be 1300, I think that that is a better idea.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: newcoins1978 on June 01, 2016, 09:25:01 AM
I think it is the opposite you should buy now and sell your coins when the price is at 1300 Dollar. If you want to make a profit you should not wait with buying because the price will only get higher.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: zimmah on June 01, 2016, 10:33:50 AM
this thread  :D

just when you thought you can't find any worse financial advice....


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Olegcho on June 01, 2016, 11:14:22 AM
I like this advice :D sell low buy high - the way to succeed


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: ElpadroBitcoin on June 02, 2016, 08:30:21 AM
I would not buy for $1300 that is to much for me but it is true that you can make more money with it. I would just buy know and wait for the price to be 1300, I think that that is a better idea.
Yeah why would you sell now and buy again for 1300 Dollar that just makes no sense at all. The price is now a bit above 500 Dollar so you would not make a profit if you would sell now and buy again for 1300 Dollar.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Zicadis on June 09, 2016, 08:03:17 AM
I would not buy for $1300 that is to much for me but it is true that you can make more money with it. I would just buy know and wait for the price to be 1300, I think that that is a better idea.
Yeah why would you sell now and buy again for 1300 Dollar that just makes no sense at all. The price is now a bit above 500 Dollar so you would not make a profit if you would sell now and buy again for 1300 Dollar.

What he means is that the price will rise to $1300 or higher in the future. If you sell now and want to buy back, you have to pay 1300.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: newcoins1978 on June 09, 2016, 08:19:13 AM
That is not a good thing to do the price right now is around $600 so it would not be smart to sell now and buy for $1300. You will not make a profit right then so I suggest you do it the other way around.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Zicadis on June 25, 2016, 06:40:43 PM
That is not a good thing to do the price right now is around $600 so it would not be smart to sell now and buy for $1300. You will not make a profit right then so I suggest you do it the other way around.

What the OP means if you sell you at a price of $660 each, and the price will rise to $1300. If you want to buy back, the price will be $1300.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: jehst on June 30, 2016, 06:35:35 AM
This thread is an IQ test.

If you don't understand the strategy, then you're dumb.
If you understand the strategy, but disagree with it, then you're not dumb.
If you understand the strategy, and agree with it, you're not dumb.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Yassarsian on July 07, 2016, 03:07:59 PM
This thread is an IQ test.

If you don't understand the strategy, then you're dumb.
If you understand the strategy, but disagree with it, then you're not dumb.
If you understand the strategy, and agree with it, you're not dumb.

That is a good summary. I will just hold the bitcoins I bought last year. I do not have the abilities to play the market.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Zicadis on July 09, 2016, 02:13:28 PM
This thread is an IQ test.

If you don't understand the strategy, then you're dumb.
If you understand the strategy, but disagree with it, then you're not dumb.
If you understand the strategy, and agree with it, you're not dumb.

That is a good summary. I will just hold the bitcoins I bought last year. I do not have the abilities to play the market.

It is better to hold the bitcoin. Most of us do not know how to trade. The trading is negative sum operation.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Haruderty on July 16, 2016, 06:42:04 AM

It is better to hold the bitcoin. Most of us do not know how to trade. The trading is negative sum operation.

For most of us, it is better to just hold the coins. When the price is really high due to a bubble, then sell some.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: pissedoff on July 16, 2016, 06:47:19 AM

It is better to hold the bitcoin. Most of us do not know how to trade. The trading is negative sum operation.

For most of us, it is better to just hold the coins. When the price is really high due to a bubble, then sell some.
If you know the bitcoin market price is really high due to a bubble it would be wise to sell all your coins and buy back later.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Altynbekova on July 16, 2016, 05:38:45 PM

It is better to hold the bitcoin. Most of us do not know how to trade. The trading is negative sum operation.

For most of us, it is better to just hold the coins. When the price is really high due to a bubble, then sell some.

That is the reason why I am holding. The price is already in a bubble but in a year or so i expect the bubble to increase or double.
Then I will start selling.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Haruderty on July 18, 2016, 11:38:56 AM
There is no bubble in the bitcoin price. If the bitcoin price is $1200 now, there could a bubble. for $600, no bubble.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: randy8777 on July 18, 2016, 12:02:13 PM
There is no bubble in the bitcoin price. If the bitcoin price is $1200 now, there could a bubble. for $600, no bubble.

it's obvious that right now the price is a fair reflection of the current market situation and lowered block rewards. even if we gradually go up to $1000 in a year time, then it's done by legit demand. if the price for whatever reason shoots up to $1000 or higher in a quick fashion, then there is definitely a bubble in the making. that's why i prefer a slower growth compared to peaks.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: tygeade on July 18, 2016, 12:33:05 PM
There is no bubble in the bitcoin price. If the bitcoin price is $1200 now, there could a bubble. for $600, no bubble.

it's obvious that right now the price is a fair reflection of the current market situation and lowered block rewards. even if we gradually go up to $1000 in a year time, then it's done by legit demand. if the price for whatever reason shoots up to $1000 or higher in a quick fashion, then there is definitely a bubble in the making. that's why i prefer a slower growth compared to peaks.

Yeah slow and steady growth is always better in compare to major pumps, as if price reaches to the moon suddenly then there is a full chance that it will fall drastically too.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: newcoins1978 on July 18, 2016, 03:36:01 PM
Selling right now is not the best thing to do because I think that if you wait for after the halving that the price is going to be allot higher then now.
That way you can earn more money then at this moment.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: jehst on July 18, 2016, 06:20:03 PM
Selling right now is not the best thing to do because I think that if you wait for after the halving that the price is going to be allot higher then now.
That way you can earn more money then at this moment.

Wait for after the halving? lol.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: TrueCryptonaire on July 18, 2016, 07:10:35 PM
Sell at 672 and buy at 1300 sounds a solid advice for making money.
I know the thread is pure irony but my truthful advice is to buy all the coins you can afford to buy and all the time, prefetably not to sell them at all. Probably you will not make money in any other asset class more than this. We are living historical time. Nothing this revolutionary hasn't happened to monetary system for 5000 years.
Bitcoin is pretty much the best thing since sliced bread.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: co5hike on July 18, 2016, 09:42:41 PM
Selling right now is not the best thing to do because I think that if you wait for after the halving that the price is going to be allot higher then now.
That way you can earn more money then at this moment.

Are you still waiting for the halving? Halving is already completed and the good thing is price didn't drop after the halving in fact its rising slowly which is a good sign.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: universe_ on July 18, 2016, 10:57:31 PM
Selling right now is not the best thing to do because I think that if you wait for after the halving that the price is going to be allot higher then now.
That way you can earn more money then at this moment.

Are you still waiting for the halving? Halving is already completed and the good thing is price didn't drop after the halving in fact its rising slowly which is a good sign.
well yeah but after 4 years there will be another one, i think that halvings are great as it can drive the price up


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: opossum on July 19, 2016, 12:15:18 AM
Selling right now is not the best thing to do because I think that if you wait for after the halving that the price is going to be allot higher then now.
That way you can earn more money then at this moment.

Are you still waiting for the halving? Halving is already completed and the good thing is price didn't drop after the halving in fact its rising slowly which is a good sign.
well yeah but after 4 years there will be another one, i think that halvings are great as it can drive the price up

If you are thinking of next halving from now then you are surely wasting your time, try to play with your coins till its alive rather then thinking of too long as you never know what will happen in future.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: newcoins1978 on July 19, 2016, 09:35:12 AM
I do not believe that that is a good idea because if you sell now and buy for $1300 you are actually losing money which is not a good thing.
With Bitcoin you want to make money so you have to be careful for what price you buy and sell.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: wildan88 on July 19, 2016, 10:57:38 AM
I do not believe that that is a good idea because if you sell now and buy for $1300 you are actually losing money which is not a good thing.
With Bitcoin you want to make money so you have to be careful for what price you buy and sell.

obviously this is a stupid idea, bought at exorbitant prices. I think when it reached $1300 is a good time to sell rather than to buy.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Haruderty on July 19, 2016, 01:50:19 PM
I do not believe that that is a good idea because if you sell now and buy for $1300 you are actually losing money which is not a good thing.
With Bitcoin you want to make money so you have to be careful for what price you buy and sell.

obviously this is a stupid idea, bought at exorbitant prices. I think when it reached $1300 is a good time to sell rather than to buy.

If you sell now, and the price rises higher, and if you want to be the investor of bitcoin again, you have to pay higher price.


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Shinpako09 on July 19, 2016, 01:50:48 PM
You tryin' to say, you miss the big profit but btc would continue to live as you bought at that price. Thats how i get it, is that what you want to say?


Title: Re: Sell now and buy again at $1300.
Post by: Skarner21 on July 19, 2016, 01:51:38 PM
I think its not a good idea to sell bitcoin right now because the price is gradually increase and i think more price increase will hit soon..
Better to be patience and wait for few months..