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Title: Who predicted Bitcoin? Post by: Bitatoes on June 06, 2011, 09:58:38 PM Did anybody predict a bitcoin type system before it was technologically possible?
And similarly, does anybody now have any idea of how a currency could be more pure then bitcoin if only we had the technology? ------------------------------------------------------------------ Episode 1 The Bitcoin Simpsons: The Simpsons climb Mt Gox (7:07) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duoyacLJpKI or http://vimeo.com/24718978 Title: Re: Who predicted Bitcoin? Post by: grue on June 06, 2011, 10:01:20 PM 1. find vague reference to anything bitcoin related
2. post on forums 3. ??? gogogogoogogogo Title: Re: Who predicted Bitcoin? Post by: Jaime Frontero on June 06, 2011, 10:05:43 PM nick szabo.
Title: Re: Who predicted Bitcoin? Post by: piuk on June 06, 2011, 10:06:35 PM Nostradamus did. Bitcoins can be made more pure if you decanter them a few times.
Title: Re: Who predicted Bitcoin? Post by: marcus_of_augustus on June 06, 2011, 10:07:40 PM Quote And similarly, does anybody now have any idea of how a currency could be more pure then bitcoin if only we had the technology? True anonymity. Title: Re: Who predicted Bitcoin? Post by: cloud9 on June 06, 2011, 10:19:40 PM Quote And similarly, does anybody now have any idea of how a currency could be more pure then bitcoin if only we had the technology? True anonymity. See https://blindbitcoin.com/ or http://bitcoinlaundry.com/ , but would these sites not be illegal if you consider its laundering activities? Does http://www.bitcoin.org/ provide any anonymity? Title: Re: Who predicted Bitcoin? Post by: MoonShadow on June 06, 2011, 10:36:40 PM Does http://www.bitcoin.org/ provide any anonymity? No, none at all. If you wanted anonimity, you shouldn't have come here. Title: Re: Who predicted Bitcoin? Post by: jimbobway on June 06, 2011, 10:45:37 PM nick szabo. +1 wei dai implemented a version of nick's vision. but it took several years later for the pieces to all come together by satoshi http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2011/05/bitcoin-what-took-ye-so-long.html Title: Re: Who predicted Bitcoin? Post by: Stephen Gornick on June 06, 2011, 10:49:53 PM Did anybody predict a bitcoin type system before it was technologically possible? Well, Zooko (creates Tahoe-LAFS) wrote: Quote Decentralized Money Zooko, 26 January 2009 (created 26 January 2009) tags: politics and economics tahoe-lafs privacy and openness cryptography computer security and reliability I've been spending a little bit of time thinking about how gaming services like World of Warcraft and (don't-call-it-a-gaming-service) Second Life have succeeded where we at DigiCash failed — convenient, widely-used, programmable digital cash. A problem is that each of these new currencies are centrally controlled by one entity. This limits the scope of who will rely on that currency and how much value they will risk on that currency. There are ideas floating around about how to facilitate transactions between currencies, but this would not solve the problem. A plethora of competing centralized services is not the same as a decentralized service. Even if it were cheap and convenient to trade some LindenBucks for some WoW Gold, this would only lead us back to the equivalent of the modern nation-state currencies: mostly centralized (because of the Network Externality), heavily taxed/regulated/manipulated, and prone to disastrous failure. What I want is a currency which everyone can cheaply and conveniently use but which no-one has the power to manipulate. No-one has the power to inflate or deflate the currency supply, no-one has the power to monitor, tax, or prevent transactions. Truly the digital equivalent of gold, during the times and places when gold was the universal currency. See the BitGold idea by Nick Szabo and b-money idea by Wei Dai, and recent effort to actually implement something along these lines: BitCoin by Satoshi Nakamoto. - http://x.co/XbWm Then Nick Szabo's recent article where he discusses BitGold and Bitcoin: Quote only a few people had read of the bit gold ideas, which although I came up with them in 1998 (at the same time and on the same private mailing list where Dai was coming up with b-money -- it's a long story) were mostly not described in public until 2005, although various pieces of it I described earlier, for example the crucial Byzantine-replicated chain-of-signed-transactions part of it which I generalized into what I call secure property titles. - http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2011/05/bitcoin-what-took-ye-so-long.htmlTitle: Re: Who predicted Bitcoin? Post by: dissipate on June 06, 2011, 11:06:58 PM I didn't predict Bitcoin, but I did predict an Internet based monetary revolution: http://www.anti-state.com/article.php?article_id=433
I just thought it would have been gold backed digital currencies like e-gold. Bitcoin or other decentralized cryptocurrencies beat those by far though. It looks like the monetary revolution is under way! Title: Re: Who predicted Bitcoin? Post by: em3rgentOrdr on June 07, 2011, 12:14:39 AM I didn't predict Bitcoin, but I did predict an Internet based monetary revolution: http://www.anti-state.com/article.php?article_id=433 I just thought it would have been gold backed digital currencies like e-gold. Bitcoin or other decentralized cryptocurrencies beat those by far though. It looks like the monetary revolution is under way! Cool, I used to read anti-state.com when I was still figuring out my political orientation. Title: Re: Who predicted Bitcoin? Post by: dearbesz on June 15, 2016, 03:13:30 AM no one knows who predicted Bitcoin...
But i read in the book of bible in Revelation im just not exactly sure what verse in revelation and chapter, it says that before the second coming of Christ there will be one currency that can use all over world and then money will no longer be useful ;D Title: Re: Who predicted Bitcoin? Post by: Nouelle-Hunter on June 15, 2016, 03:34:07 AM i dont know but I heard that there is some persons who predicted bitcoins. But I dont believe on predictions after all whats more important is that we have a bitcoins right now.
Title: Re: Who predicted Bitcoin? Post by: TheMage on June 15, 2016, 03:47:53 AM The real question is "who predicted utilizing a medium of exchange outside of government intervention".
I jest, but thats one of a multitudes of ways in which to interpret your question. If thats the case, one needs to understand politics and when was the first established political environment in mankind. Then realize that medium of exchange happened way before that. ;) Title: Re: Who predicted Bitcoin? Post by: 7788bitcoin on June 15, 2016, 03:59:41 AM no one knows who predicted Bitcoin... But i read in the book of bible in Revelation im just not exactly sure what verse in revelation and chapter, it says that before the second coming of Christ there will be one currency that can use all over world and then money will no longer be useful ;D Maybe you are referring the the verses in Revelation Chapter 13: 16-17... "16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name." However, until the time comes, we can't be sure if these verses are really referring to the the digital currencies... Title: Re: Who predicted Bitcoin? Post by: TheMage on June 15, 2016, 04:40:27 AM no one knows who predicted Bitcoin... But i read in the book of bible in Revelation im just not exactly sure what verse in revelation and chapter, it says that before the second coming of Christ there will be one currency that can use all over world and then money will no longer be useful ;D Maybe you are referring the the verses in Revelation Chapter 13: 16-17... "16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name." However, until the time comes, we can't be sure if these verses are really referring to the the digital currencies... My argument predates the bible ;) Title: Re: Who predicted Bitcoin? Post by: marcus_of_augustus on June 15, 2016, 06:28:04 AM no one knows who predicted Bitcoin... But i read in the book of bible in Revelation im just not exactly sure what verse in revelation and chapter, it says that before the second coming of Christ there will be one currency that can use all over world and then money will no longer be useful ;D Ezekiel 7:19 Quote They shall cast their silver in the streets, and their gold shall be removed: their silver and their gold shall not be able to deliver them in the day of the wrath of the LORD: they shall not satisfy their souls, neither fill their bowels: because it is the stumblingblock of their iniquity. Revelations 13:16-17 Quote And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Title: Re: Who predicted Bitcoin? Post by: StoreBit on June 16, 2016, 12:17:21 PM alot of people ae predicting bitcoin. i am confused what should i do. eveyone has its own predicitoin. they giving different views about bitcoin.
Title: Re: Who predicted Bitcoin? Post by: ObscureBean on June 16, 2016, 12:59:56 PM It depends how far back you're talking but it is definitely possible that there were other people who envisioned something along the lines of Bitcoin (as in digital currency) in the past 50 years. People were already experimenting with digital currencies in the nineties. The concept behind the blockchain itself is even more fundamental, I wouldn't be surprised if people already thought of similar systems 100's of years ago.
Title: Re: Who predicted Bitcoin? Post by: ebliever on June 16, 2016, 03:20:23 PM no one knows who predicted Bitcoin... But i read in the book of bible in Revelation im just not exactly sure what verse in revelation and chapter, it says that before the second coming of Christ there will be one currency that can use all over world and then money will no longer be useful ;D Ezekiel 7:19 Quote They shall cast their silver in the streets, and their gold shall be removed: their silver and their gold shall not be able to deliver them in the day of the wrath of the LORD: they shall not satisfy their souls, neither fill their bowels: because it is the stumblingblock of their iniquity. Revelations 13:16-17 Quote And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. It's interesting how people read things into the text that are not actually there. The passage in Revelations speaks of a mark. It does not say that the mark _is_ money or anything of the sort. Much less that it refers to a microchip or digital currency or any of the wild speculations people bring upon it. It just specifies that people would be marked, and the mark will be a requirement to engage in transaction activity. Bitcoin doesn't involve such a mark in any way, shape or form. So there is simply no relationship between bitcoin and this passage. Note that the passage also doesn't require there to be only one currency. There could be many currencies, so long as they were all using the same mark as a control mechanism. Title: Re: Who predicted Bitcoin? Post by: dearbesz1219 on July 04, 2016, 06:49:44 PM Nobody predicts Bitcoin. Its just came to our generation because of high technologies that has been created by mankind. That's the only thing I know. :)
Title: Re: Who predicted Bitcoin? Post by: Maesters1- on July 09, 2016, 06:39:37 PM i dont think so that any one has predicted bitocin before it was lounched. i think these are the false news about bitcoin spreading by people just to devalue it
Title: Re: Who predicted Bitcoin? Post by: marcus_of_augustus on July 09, 2016, 11:35:16 PM Neal Stephenson, read Cryptonomicon.
Title: Re: Who predicted Bitcoin? Post by: Enjorlas on July 10, 2016, 12:11:56 AM The Sci-Fi anime Cowboy Bebop had a digital currency unit called "Woolong".
Title: Re: Who predicted Bitcoin? Post by: X-ray on July 10, 2016, 02:41:41 AM The Sci-Fi anime Cowboy Bebop had a digital currency unit called "Woolong". damn I guess that's a near guess but they didn't guess the name. Do that woolong thingy use blockchain too if it is then their prediction came nearer than what I think it is.The Woolong (symbol: ₩) is the standard unit of currency in the Cowboy Bebop universe. Woolongs are rarely traded in physical form such as in banknotes and coins; it seems that the 2071 economy is based on digital cash. no specific details about how the system work but it's digital cash Title: Re: Who predicted Bitcoin? Post by: anzel2002 on July 10, 2016, 02:52:40 AM Rai stones of the Micronesian islands
Title: Re: Who predicted Bitcoin? Post by: MoonShadow on July 20, 2016, 05:52:21 AM Neal Stephenson, read Cryptonomicon. Yes, Neal almost nailed it in Cryptonomicon, but his version was closer to eGold since it was a digital warehousing recepit, and his "distributed ownership verification" system was vague. Wasn't the digital money in Snow Crash & The Diamond Age closer? I can't remember now. Great fiction, though. Title: Re: Who predicted Bitcoin? Post by: groll on July 20, 2016, 06:11:05 AM Did anybody predict a bitcoin type system before it was technologically possible? And similarly, does anybody now have any idea of how a currency could be more pure then bitcoin if only we had the technology? ------------------------------------------------------------------ Episode 1 The Bitcoin Simpsons: The Simpsons climb Mt Gox (7:07) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duoyacLJpKI or http://vimeo.com/24718978 Who predicted bitcoins? Nobody I guess. But if there is someone who predicted it, it is the creator itself Satoshi Nakamoto. I believe that he has predicted that bitcoins will revolutionize the future of currency and he has this vision that inspire him to create such a currency online. And that gave birth to bitcoin then it was copied then gave birth to cryptocurrency economy. |