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Think these will be available before ASIC's?  :D

http://www.techspot.com/news/51013-dual-gpu-amd-radeon-hd-8990-specifications-leak-online.html (http://www.techspot.com/news/51013-dual-gpu-amd-radeon-hd-8990-specifications-leak-online.html)

"This monster card is listed as having 5.1 billion transistors (between the two GPUs), 5,210 stream processors 5120SP and 160 texture units per core. The 8990 is also listed as having 48 ROPs per core and a pair of 384-bit buses. Memory is expected to be anywhere in the range of 6GB to 12GB and should be clocked from the factory at 1,250MHz. Each GPU will ship running at 950MHz, according to the roadmap."

"ATI Radeon HD 8990  5.1Bill  5120SP  2x160  2x48  2x384bits  950MHz  1250MHz  6GB-12GB GDDR5/600GBs  10.2/3.0TeraFLOPS  6/375W  DX11.1 SM5.0  4.2  Venus XTX Q2 2013

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5120 stream processors... little too late to the game, but that would been fun to mine & game with.

Would love to get a 8990 if my moola was not tied up with those BFL + bASIC orders.  ;)

I believe if you have a certain amount of funds transferred via Dwolla, that will be reported to the IRS (As Paypal transactions over a certain $ or qty are).

Nice thing is my accountant handles it.

But that's only on coins sold for US currency.

What a weirdly random reply.

Well as for the 8990, it says that it is expected to release 2nd quarter of 2013, and cost > $1000, unless something truly cataclysmic happens to ASICs, doesn't look like it'll come out before ASICs, and if it did somehow you'll see one hell of a long time to pay off that bad boy by mining. Though it looks like it might be able to pull off 2GH/s? That woulda been fun back in the day ;)

Even available now, this card never ROI(if ASIC isn't scam).

5210 shaders is wrong. It's 5120 (2560 x 2)

Omg do want! Not for bitcoin mining but for other scientific GPU projects!

Won't use it for BTC mining, but possibly LTC mining.

Oh, and gaming... definitely gaming. Lots and lots of gaming (@ 5400x1920)

I believe anything over $1000 in one shot is, that's what I'm told. And when you sell over 200 items, and $20,000 worth its also reported.

I remember when the 7990 was launching in March of 2012. Still hasn't launched...

Reference is pretty much canceled. TDP is supposedly too high for AMD to comfortably work with. Let the OEM's worry about it they say. A couple "7990"s have already come out from powercolor and asus.

Wow! I want this! It's just a joy to tanker - worldoftanks.

This weekend I upgraded to Win8, but was having problems with 12.10 and the AMD Vision Engine Control Center. The only way I could figure out how to fix it was to upgrade to the 12.11 beta.

In that beta, I noticed that it contains drivers for Radeon HD 8800 and 8900 cards. I actually have 2 copies of each driver, so I'm wondering if 12.10 had them as well. Either way, I thought it was interesting.

Will it play Crysis?

Yeh, I remember when those were called 7970 X2s and were supposed to launch after the reference 7990. I wonder if the 8990 will end up being 8970 X2s launched next September?

I normally end up treating myself to a nice card for my gameing computer, After hours of looking through top titles to test the beast I normally end up playing minesweeper thinking well that was another smart purchase.  :-[

My solution with my 2x6950, now that they would cost me money to mine, is to transfer one to my kids computer so they can play minecraft faster/higher rez :D
(and save the other for when I feel the urge to use vanitygen)
Though I guess Minecraft does require a little more GPU power than Minesweeper :P

That is one of the funniest posts I've read in a very long time  :D

Are you kidding, right?

Omg, I need this....will trade my gtx670 ...
hm run spoutcraft on full settings...I wonder ^_^

Crossfire only works in full screen mode, and also is still plagued by microstutter unless you get at least THREE GPU's. If thats fine with you, then by all means go amd for gaming. I know I won't when I upgrade.

I don't see where you coming from with crossfire? I did not say anything about that.
Unless of course nvidia comes out with something as powerful. So it all depends.

Maybe he thinks that Dual GPU solutions function the same as crossfiring two single cards.

Because they do. A 5970, 6990, and 7990 all are crossfired internally and behave as if they are crossfired dual gpu. They do NOT act like a single gpu card. If your game only supports a single GPU, your dual GPU card will only see a load on one core, not both.

Radeonpro mod, it eliminates the microstutter issue.

This is still annoying me.  :o

This is ridiculous speculation.

Look how far in advance the 7990 was rumored and we still don't have a reference version yet.  Afaik the Devil 13 is the only one currently available.

Finally fixed that.  You referred to shaders which initially thru me off.  The translated website does list it as 5120 SP.

It's relatively same issue as if you ran sli. But the game stuff would be an issue on developer side.
I always used nvidia; since getting in btc tried out radeon for gaming. Let's see ..nvidia took over the market with cooler graphics card with stock fan and almost no drivers issues.
on the other hand amd's getting better..

anyways my point is....nvidia would have to get ready for gtx790...

or even more..sooner mobile computing power will overcome desktop power..

In regards to gaming...

NVIDIA uses a hardware based buffer to eliminate microstutter from SLI configurations. They have had this in place since the 8xx0 series Geforce cards. This is the reason that SLI feels so smooth when you're using them in SLI, TRI-SLI, and Quad-SLI configurations.

AMD allows the cards to go balls to the walls performance, and doesn't have any hardware to smooth out the random pauses that happen with texture loading, vertex loading, scene rendering, etc. that can add a hiccup in the pipeline, which is what microstuttering is. The Radeon Pro mod adds a software buffer to put the brakes on the cards and gives them a split second interval to get this done, and DRASTICALLY improves Crossfire performance. On an aside, TRI-Fire doesn't have a microstutter issue, or a drastically reduced microstutter issue, but crops up again in QUAD-Fire (along with abysmal QUAD-Fire performance.)

Also... dual card systems I've had and played on personally

8800 GTX 320 SLI (owned)
4850 Crossfire (owned)
5830 Crossfire (owned)
5850 Crossfire (owned)
GTX 480 TRI-SLI (played on)
6870 Crossfire (owned, sucked)
GTX 590 (Dual CHIP CARD SLI, played on)
7970 Crossfire (owned, F***ING awesome)

And Dual chip cards 5970, 6990, 7970x2(Powercolor, HIS), 9800GT2, GTX295, GTX590, GTX690 are all Crossfire/SLI cards on a single PCB.

What means owned? You used those corosfire solutions for office aplications? :D

Some people buy GPUs for purposes other than mining. Some people even buy LOTS of gpus for purposes other than mining.  ;) :D 8)

That confused me for a second, LOL!

But yeah, owned in my personal gaming rig, didn't find out about mining till the crash from $32. I don't think GPU's accelerate anything except Photoshop when it comes to office apps.