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It seems cloning ETH is getting profitable today. I think more clones are on their way?

Is it complicated to clone? not the usual copy and paste like LTC? else why are there only 3 clones after all of this time?

there is. It's called expance. (EXP) poloniex and bittrex last 24 hours $2,274,560  1319.87% increase in 24 hours.

check it out

ETH is still in the middle of a lot of development. Cloning it now is going to require a lot of major porting if the clone wants to try to keep up with the development.

A better question is, why are there so many fucking ETH topics?  Are people making tons of money on this?  Is this thing going to live up to this hype??  Can anything?

I know right?!  Maybe it's on its way to 50, who knows...

yes and yes.

https://www.reddit.com/r/dogethereum/

You're probably right let's just wait and see what happens...

Because Ethereum does not work!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1361602.msg13856404#msg13856404

Hi, yes, I have heard you mention this before and although I don't fully understand the reason ...my question  should have really said:

Why are there not more eth clones - because from watching EXP it would seem that you can just copy eth and your coin will jump to the top 50 or higher with all the eth hype around right now. I would have though all the ALT cloners would have jumped on to this by now. I can only guess that eth must be more difficult to copy and paste than LTC was?  since there have only been 3 up until now?

I also wonder why none of the coders working on eth have come to this board to discuss with you the issues that you have mentioned regarding their design?

Surely they are aware of this section of the board and would seek to negate any fears their investors could be having due to hearing about this issue with certain parts needing to become centralised to function as they should. Or that's kind of how it sounded to my non technical mind when trying to understand what you were talking about - I could be wrong or perhaps actually that was iota. Although what matters really is that nobody kind of came to disagree. So I am not as confident about it as I was.

The thing that I would have like to have known in simple terms is - is it a problem they can disguise from most for long enough to drive the price up near BTC levels before it is discovered or is it an issue that will become very clear to everyone long before that is possible?
I mean the issue you mentioned with BTC - i guess it was something to do with it will take days to sync on my laptop and force me to remove all my HD brazzers clips from my small ssd drive to even use it? which the normal guy just does not want to do. Thing is  you noticed this years back and if i had listened to you correctly explaining this it could have stopped me investing more and in turn I would be making less.

I know you are not too worried about the money side and are purely pulling apart the logic and coding of each project but for me and some others we just want to know can the tech work enough to provide interest and capital investment enough to fund some development and some spoils for the lucky investors. Not all coders are capable of probably creating something perfect first time so it can be experimental for them to solve issues as they arise. Some can not be solved perhaps and then it is time to start a new project.

I understand with etherium being touted as a work of genius and everyone saying it is a perfect bitcoin killer it would be nice it that was true (not for me because i still have more btc than eth in a big way) and not just non techs getting kind of played along even if the devs know there is a major issue.

So yes, i can only imagine there is some problem with etherium if nobody is able to refute this clearly even though they have had plenty of time. But how big is this issue to end users and those that don't understand this tech 100%. Also if this problem will become apparent to all users and grossly effect their usage of etherium what is the time frame. Is it like BTC will take a few years or will it be much more quickly?

On the other hand it would be good if VB or another top dev on etherium could come here and discuss this issue an d see if you guys can talk it through and see what if anything could be done or not done. If nothing can be done with changes to the current design then the price is going in the wrong direction possibly.

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don't be like that :(

naw calm down please, he is developping something no need to stiffle development from reaching some audience.

Far easier.

1. Rebrand ethereum source with search and replace
2. Modify genesis json file and add it to the repo

That's all.

And we all thought those Monero threads were annoying. This is getting to be beyond borderline ridiculous. I know Etherum or what ever it's called hasn't got a working GUI wallet, don't tell me they haven't got a forum either? The relentless spamming is getting worse each week. If i see one more thread i think I'm going to scream

Maybe because it would mess up their alleged scam model (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1361602.msg13857533#msg13857533)  ???


I think perhaps the question should be (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1361791.msg13857871#msg13857871) for how long can promoters prevent a small % of the coming bag holders from running to the door.
 

You mean when I posted near the top price for BTC in 2013 that the block chain scaling Tragedy of the Commons would be the defining issue for Bitcoin.

I don't know how much higher the ETH price can go. Because I don't know how many and what genre of speculators hold it and whether they want to sell for short-term profits or hold long-term.

I don't know to what degree that hiding the truth about Ethereum's technology has impacted that equation.


Yet promoters claim lead developer Vitalik (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1361034.msg13852147#msg13852147) and endorser Nick "Satoshi" Szabo (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1361613.0) are crypto gods.


Yup the promoters inducing you buy ETH in fear of missing a train. Myself and r0ach are apparently (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1361602.msg13858022#msg13858022) saying that train has no tracks.

Note it is possible that somehow Ethereum can keep the technological truths obscured in technobabble. Unfortunately apparently smooth and the Monero folks didn't understand all scaling issues exhaustively (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1183043.msg13850005#msg13850005), so they are unable to do their usual dissection of altcoins in the case of Ethereum.


I don't know for sure. But the level of hype suggests to me that Humpty Dumpty will take a great fall soon enough.

I suggest Dogeum.  ;D

It's not yet finished. We'll see more clones once there will be a stable release.

Also ETH isn't something what someone can easily clone without considerable coding knowledge As most of the cloners have little actual programming skills and the step-by-step coin cloning guides are not much use here they are waiting for a new howto, I guess :).

Do you mean $50 per Ethereum? It is possible. The litecoin went to that price range about 2-3 years ago. But it will take time.

I doubt it. Litecoin had some genuine use cases (GPU mining, hedge against Bitcoin, etc), but the truth is coming out now that Ethereum is a lie (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1361602.msg13858634#msg13858634).

How moch topics Is needed for ETH. This hype is beginning to annoys me.
I mean this is Bitcoin v.2 and other proclamations..

Thanks for the explanations.

Yes i had suspected this. I wish hunter coin could have worked long term. Like the idea for that method of distribution a lot. Would be great to have a proof of skill... but perhaps what seems interesting and great to me is quite difficult to action.

Or Monereum  :D

I personally have a bad taste in my mouth from the etherium team. They believe that they are gods and from the very beginning when they grabbed up all those bitcoins and the way they went about business, made me the x fan for this coin

According to their webpage anyone with basic skills can select a few options like number of coins, fixed amount or fluctuate. So expect lots of new clones.

Most of the ethereum threads on here are created by haters.  Ethereum is a far superior crypto than even bitcoin for multiple good reasons. 

People trying to FUD down others hard work need to take a look at themselves and their motivations.  Are you really trying to push crypto forward or are you holding it back for your own personal biases?

No. We are trying to prevent you from lying about technology and wasting $millions on technology that can't work.

Another clone but without dev is SHIFT.

SHIFT as new Dev and start to grow
SOILCOIN as dev and seems interesting
EXP pump and dump ? don't know

Releasing coin is not simply 'clone'. Its development of entire ecosystem, environment, community and devteam

There are better coins im terms of Tech than ETH. Check out ADA and TAU

We don't need ETH clones. We got enough good ETH coins. Look for fab eth network coins like PRG, ABT and CAN.

i think its better to look back two years ago what happens about youre question op.on how many clones of ethereum has been made in that long span of years,this tiits either youil amaze or just laugh on what had happens in this communitu,bitcoin has many fork and eth has clones lol

There is news that there will be an ETH separation recently. I hope these news ETH will increase further in the future. ETH our house is our BTC father :)

It depends on what you call clones. If for example, EOS is not just a copy-paste, it's a complex change

Duplicating ETH will not be good for the market, so it will mess up the deal and people will not be able to choose which platform is the best deal. In my opinion, ETH is enough for the Crypto market.

I also do not know Ethereum clones because I know Ethereum is now more profitable because I see from last week that the price of Ethereum keeps rising and now another altcoin in the recovery period, therefore, you can hold your altcoin until the altcoin price stabilizes

 crypto is in the money market, the more the Ethereum clone varies in quantity. More production will allow the Ethereum clone market to go out when there are too many users.

I think is because of the intellectual copy. The companies cannot establish like a services what do others provide because they can be sued by the real one and ask for a payment for damages and imprisonment as well.

The fact that there are no more ETH clones in the money market means that there is no need to clone. After reaching a sufficient number of users in the future, new clones will be on the market in ETH.

I know less about this because what I know with the Ethereum cloning can be profitable for today, therefore, I am not sure about this problem but I am sure that Ethereum can get a good profit because Ethereum itself has good growth and popularity and can survive to future

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