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I have just sold CoinURL to the new owner. Stay tuned!

I hope it is xchrix
https://www.litecoinglobal.com/security/COINURL-UPAGAIN

T'is me! 

mc_lovin is the new CoinURL owner!

Such an exciting thing to announce. 

I am also half owner in Operation Fabulous so I am unsure at the moment if the two companies will be merged together but for now we'll take things one day at a time and see what happens. 

...daaaaamn no ltc win for this case :(

Sorry to dissapoint, but I will try integrate LTC into the mix!  I am a huge LTC supporter!!!

Would be good to see CoinURL up asap, I use it for advertising.

If specialized hosting is required do let me know, plenty of options available with cloud.

I second that motion,

I would really like to see it up asap, since i am both an advertiser and a publisher on coinurl and would really like to move
all ads back to coinurl.

And i think you really want to get it back before too many sites move to other ad networks, like we did.

/GoK

MONOPOLY!

I don't think Arsenische will ever sell AnonymousAds.

But But... mc_lovin has sooo many hotels :P

damn :( why did you sell so fast?
maybe i would have increased my offer if i got the funding..
good luck to the new owner!

What happens with the balance I had on CoinURL?

Yeah me too, you don't just say, whatever and then dump the company and sell it on and don't settle with everyone that had balances like me.

I would like my BTC back please that were in my balance, I did email you but you have ignored it.

Obligations to the users were sold together with CoinURL. When CoinURL will be up on the new owner's server, you will be able to request withdrawal exactly as you did it when it was operated by me.

mc_lovin is respectable person who operates Operation Fabulous, you have absolutely no reason to worry!

When we can expect to see coinurl back online?
It's been a great service, I appreciated it very much and looking to use it again

looking forward to seeing it back up again!

I am configuring new owner's server right now.

I'm pessimistic about this change. :-\

What I really liked about CoinURL was giantdragon's commitment to improving it, especially when I gave him a feature request, which he had already implemented a few hours later.

On the other hand, Operation Fabulous, which is currently owned mc_lovin has barely changed after it was sold; there are no way to arrange sites by view count or other statistics, changing the e-mail address is still "temporarely[sic] suspended" and while the site is functional, it doesn't seem to have the same level of support Anonymous Ads and CoinURL have, which have continued to improve in many ways since their inception.

If mc_lovin will ask me, I can continue making improvements for some BTCs.

Incoming text wall.

And as paraipan suggests, a TL;DR:

- The first huge wall of text is me responding to the fact that he didn't think I have put any efforts into OpFab, and just me explaining the history of things and the hurdles I have had to go through.  The reason for the textwall is someone doubting me and I need to show them a picture of the situation.  A picture is worth 1000 words, well that's about a 2.5 picture reply.  The doubting me is a valid statement though, but I have so many things going on that it takes like that big of a reply to get the message across.  

- Re: customer deposts: I can't give you guys coins that I don't have, but I will likely be paying users out of pocket for this in a manner that is affordable.  The way the site was set up before, apparently, advertisers were not allowed to withdrawal at all.  I want to change things like this to allow that sort of functionality but I am not going to be able to do that especially if you guys try to all withdrawal at once, it's just not going to be feasible, and if giantdragon still had the site, apparently, he wouldn't have paid advertiser balances out anyway.  Advertisers would use their balances for advertising, and the publishers had the ability to be paid out.  If a publisher has a balance and the amount requested for withdrawal is reasonable, I'll just pay it out of pocket, but it's not like I have a massive bitcoin balance to be paying out of.  I have a very little amount of bitcoin, and after buying coinurl the amount is laughable but if the total amount of publisher withdrawals is a few BTC a week or something then I can make that happen.  Be reasonable, be patient, and this transition will be pretty seamless.  

- CoinURL is running on my server at the moment and it might crumble my server when it goes live, so beware of service interruptions during this period.

- Basically read the last reply at the bottom in reply to the CoinURL stuff as it is the most relevant.

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I totally understand where you are coming from, Matoking, and I'm glad you brought that point up.

Yeah, OpFab hasn't been visually updated since 2010.  It looks like it was made in 1990.  

If you looked at the advertisers account page, you would have noticed that it was spelled correctly.  And on the publishers account page, it was spelled incorrectly.  The reason it was spelled properly on one page and not the other is because before I even bought OpFab (with Edd), I told BioMike that there was the typo, and he corrected one of them but he must not have realized there were two of them.  To show you that I'm serious about this stuff, I have corrected the spelling on both pages now, omg, first thing ever changed.  Why haven't I done any more?  Read on.

I don't want to mess things up!

Normally, when I get a site, or build a site, or anything, I like to have a full backup of everything, then if I make changes, I don't fear data loss.  Sure, we have backups, but OpFab is not as easy to work on as a normal LAMP site.  I prefer to work on a site in a development environment, offline system entirely, do the changes, and then push the changes live once I'm satisfied.  Luckily we moved the OpFab server to a familiar OS, but it does not use MySQL for a database.  So I can't just make a quick dump and load the dump up in the dev box.  It uses Firebird, and in my opinion Firebird is terrible.  I still have no idea how to do much of anything in Firebird, but I finally, FINALLY got a copy of OpFab in a dev environment about a week or so ago (January 4th to be exact) and I have already started to make visual changes to it.  I read somewhere that it is very easy to corrupt a Firebird database by making changes to the live site.  The original OpFab author, BioMike, is still around but he is a busy person as well and he lives in the Netherlands so the time zones are completely out of wack and he only has, when he's not on holidays, a few hours to work on something during the week, and I work F/T during the day so it is very hard for us to find a time to work together.  On the 4th I had to stay up until 7AM when working with him to learn how to operate it, and I have a log of our entire conversation, all of the sites' changes and exactly how to set up an OpFab server from scratch, to the point where I could literally make a bash script that creates an OpFab server with 1 command.  If I have any further questions, I can consult that conversation we had, as I have asked like everything already.  Firebird is very similar to MySQL but basically all the command names are different.  It was also very hard for me to have a server to experiment with a server either, but at Christmas I traded a nice C2D gaming rig to my sister for a dual-771 Xeon box she got for free from work and I ordered dual quads for it and set it up at home with VMWare, and I'm having a blast with it, the very first thing I did was get in touch with BioMike and we worked together to set up a dev box, which is running successfully.

I have contracted several people to help me with OpFab's development.  First I got in touch with kiba, as he has worked on some of the graph stuff before and was hopefully familiar with the site.  Right off the bat, I gave him site files to work on, and he says OpFab is hopeless, the code is horrid, and we would be better off building a whole new OpFab from scratch.  I disagree, I think it works very well, it just looks bad.  I told him that wherever in the code you see a database set/get, to just leave that in place and worry about the styling and flow of the site...  It didn't go over very well, he started building his OpFab v2 and got a couple pages into it and... yea, he's sort of mad at me for being so busy, which I am, if I had more time I wouldn't need to hire someone I could just sit here and learn all of these foreign technologies and do everything myself.  I paid him in advance to do the interface, it's not going to happen, I really don't care though, since in the past few months I have really started to study how some of these programming languages work.  I am familiar with PHP but I hadn't really built any heavy PHP-sites before (besides like including files and echoing) so it's going to take some time before I am a master at it.  I have known HTML and CSS since sometime in 2004 and it's child's play to me, but PHP is on another level.  I studied it for a long this week, I am making mastering PHP my new goal for the next couple weeks, I have learned a lot and every night my mind is BLOWN about how great this language is.  kiba, primarily a Ruby on Rails developer, wants to build the whole site in Rails.  I don't even know what Rails is and I kept telling him, like, let me look into what it is exactly before we go ahead with it.  Seeing as how there was a Rails exploit last week where vircurex and some related stock exchange got hacked and it wasn't their fault, it was Rails'.  I still don't know what Rails is for, but it doesn't sound all too great.  OpFab's primary engine, though, is Python.  The front end being PHP is not complicated in the least and I totally understand the code, but the back-end?  Har har.  I look at it and I know I have a LOT to learn, but I watched a few videos on Python and I really like it, now all I need to do is learn how to build something in it so I can start tinkering with that code!

There was someone else as well I contracted to build a new OpFab.  He built me a custom database for an unrelated project and I was just blown away at the professionalism and speed of this other alternative database software, redis.  I did some research on redis and I absolutely love it.  The site's tutorials make it very, very easy to figure out, whereas with Firebird it's like I need to sit there and read a book, basically.  I can't even Google questions I have about Firebird, hardly anyone uses it anymore, it's very unpopular.  I have to basically read the docs which are insane.  It might take me awhile to read it and undertand it but I want to learn Firebird in and out just so that I can say to myself that I have tackled another system on my quest for knowledge.  When I work with things, and there is a handy command, I always include it in this offline wikipedia I have for myself, I make my little cheat-sheets and it does not take long for me to memorize everything, either.  I have already found one cheat sheet (http://www.alberton.info/downloads/firebird-2-cheat-sheet.png) for Firebird, but I look at it and I don't understand any of that.  How do I... back up a database?  That's not on the cheat sheet.  I know, now, how to do that, though.  Anyways, I really liked this redis project we worked on, and I actually have a supplementary redis database on BitcoinTrading.com right now for Bitcoin price statistics.  I basically gave him a list of like 10 really awesome ideas I had and he's like, where do we start?  I was like, well, let's rebuild OpFab, if you are that good, let's see what you can do.  He said he didn't need to see any site files whatsoever, he could rebuild the whole thing from scratch just by looking at the functions.  Well I spent like 5 or 6 hours working with him on that one, and the project basically stalled out when he became extremely busy at work.  So somewhere there is kiba's partially built OpFab2 and another one this guy had.  There still is a chance we get it completed but I am not concerned or worried about it.  No loss, though, as OpFab1 is just chuggin' along still.  I do lose out when I pay for developers out of pocket and nothing comes of it.  I am only part owner of OpFab, Edd is the other owner.  Edddddd... seriously..  does.. nothing.. *smack*.  Nice guy, he handles all of our money.  I don't think OpFab is very profitable so I am not really worried, I think the site has made a profit of a whole 15 BTC so far in 1 year!  I haven't gotten any sort of dividend payment out of it for being part owner, the site has cost me more than anything.  But I've come to terms with it not making any money.  At this point it just more fun to operate a site like this than worry about money.  Even OpFab1, with it's simple-seeming interface, is very intense to maintain.  I have to manually log in every day and check if there are any outstanding sites to approve.  And if I don't check it for a couple days, a site could have signed up and left the 'unapproved' banner up on their page, which looks very unprofessional(!!!) and have taken it down by the time I have checked to see if such a banner does exist on their page.  Then when I don't see a banner there, I have to one-at-a-time email the users and inquire if they have taken the banner down or if they just haven't put it back up yet.  This process consumes part of my evening as it is.  I have some radical ideas on how to streamline things.  Every time a publisher creates an ad box and it goes into the queue of 'unapproved' sites, there should be a little code snippet at the bottom of that script that fires me off an email?  That seems pretty easy to do?  And the button to approve the site, whatever I click on for 'approving' it, that code, put it in the email.  Since the site tracks how many pageviews a page is getting, why don't we auto-approve sites that are clearly getting views?  Then when I give it my stamp of approval, it's status changes from auto-approved to just approved.  Believe me, I have a list of things that we need to work on.  I write massive 10-page emails like this to BioMike and Edd and everyone thinks the ideas are great but the implementation is up to me, and this whole time I haven't had an environment to experiment with.

This all said, I am glad that OpFab is as powerful as it is behind the scenes, and a new OpFab entirely is not going to be necessary.

The interface of a site is the easiest thing to do.  Have you seen my site, Murder Capitals (https://mafia.murdercapitals.com)? (formerly Bitcoin Mafia due to this SSL company not giving me an SSL cert for BitcoinTrading because it sounded too 'commerical' and apparently it's a good idea for the site to be secure.)  The whole interface I did by hand.  And I mean, it was there before, I just changed every little image and all the colors, the styling, the whole theme, I changed pretty much every pixel of it, that should be testament to my CSS styling skills, as well I integrated some functionality in there that wasn't there previously.  It took me like hundreds of hours, and I think it's awesome.  It's like 95% complete.  It was this site I was working on immediately before I got a job, I was unemployed for a bit there thinking I could just live off Bitcoins, and then I got a wicked job in IT and it was 100% attributed to Bitcoin.  Bitcoin seriously got me a job, and in that job I work with Linux and websites and everything, so all day when I'm at work I'm expanding my knowledge-base even more, the learning process never stops, except I have to work on their projects instead of mine...  Since I work full-time now, it's very hard to find the time to work on things like this, but I still have a few hours in an evening and rest assured, my Bitcoin sites get all of it.  I don't "go out with friends" or ignore you guys, I seriously am just really busy!  My #1 problem is that I have too many things going on at once.  This is why I hire developers.  Y'know, if you get 2-3 replies out of me in a week, that's pretty good.  I hired the owner of Bitcoin Pyramid, Arsen, as well, to integrate Bitcoin into the Bitcoin Mafia game and a year after that went on, not a single line of code was changed, and we just sort of parted ways, no hard feelings, just nothing got done.  He was very busy, as I am now too.  I also have a signmaking company that I have customers hollering at me to cut their logos too and I have a nice bitcoin mining farm that spans 1 room in 2 houses and when the whole farm is down, I have to go drive down there and fix things...  Luckily I am the BAMT-master now, and I have uptimes of like 30 days before a rig even goes down, so it's not an issue anymore but it was at one time.  The good thing about not having time for my sites and a job instead, is that I have money to invest into my sites!  I can like, buy sites like CoinURL!

I was so extremely pleased to see the code for CoinURL.  I understand every detail of it entirely, and I have built a few Twitter Bootstrap sites like this in the past but I always make static sites, having the code to review I am learning a lot already of how it is put together.  The code actually resembles many of the other sites I have built, it looks like I made this site except a year in the future.  You can rest assured I will be modifying and adding functionality to CoinURL far easier than with OpFab.  

I hope this backstory helps you understand where I'm coming from.  I have been living in a computer world since 4 years old, I had to learn how to navigate MS-DOS before I could even write.  I spent my entire evening working with computers for over 20 years now.  Programming is just one thing I really wished I learned before, but every day I am just soaking it up.  


Yes!  That would be epic!  That's probably the best solution!


That's a good question.  I'm still scratching my head on how this is going to go down.  I'll keep you posted but rest assured all the funds are stored offline and I have to build a fresh wallet for the new CoinURL, it's not like they are stored in some remote site.  I wish the coins came along with CoinURL, but if he did include the coins, a person could have just bought the site, stolen all the coins, and toss the site away.  Originally he was just selling the domain names and I made an offer to buy and revive the whole site.  The fact that there is even going to be a tomorrow for CoinURL is 100% my reviving it.  Re: balances, well, I had coins on there too, guys.  If the amount is very small or negligible, I will just pay you all out of pocket.  If there is a million dollars outstanding, well sorry folks but I haven't won the lottery yet.  I was talking to giantdragon though, and he says advertisers were originally not allowed to withdrawl at all.  Once you put your coins in, they HAD to be spent to a publisher.  I see some logic in this.  And he says the no-warranties ToS covered this.  Now me refunding advertisers which is against the sites' original ToS and site operation is just simply me, mc_lovin, being the nicest guy ever and I do stuff like that.  Pay by the bite.  Hug everyone.  No shoes, no shirt, but service.  Besides, the price I paid is far less than what it would take if I were to hire someone off the street to build the site entirely from scratch.  I basically bought the domains, codebase, databases, and some minor support to get things rolling.  It would have been worth it for me to purchase it simply to look over the beautiful code for the sake of learning.  If I was 100% owner of OpFab, I would probably just integrate the two sites into one, but I'm still on the fence about that idea.  I'd rather buy Edd's half and own them all but he won't sell :).  But I'm mc_lovin and I am going to get the site back up and you guys won't even notice it down.  It's actually running as we speak, I have dedicated this entire day and tomorrow to setting it all up and configuring, I would share the link right now but there's no point since the actual DNS hasn't been pointed at the server, but the site is up and running on my server, we can point coinurl.com and cur.lv at the server and it will just start working instantly.  Folks, my server is going to friggin' EXPLODE when this goes live.  I really don't have the resources right now to get this running on there, but we're going to try it out, see what the bottlenecks are, and soup up the server to meet the demand.  I have already contacted BitVPS and asked them to double the memory in the server and they said yes, absolutely, I am just sitting here impatiently as they do that.  At that point, if it's still not enough, I am paying someone for resources on a really powerful dedicated server, I am trying to set it up so that if the BitcoinTrading or OpFab server does down, it automatically falls over to the superserver.  Or maybe vice-versa, it runs on the superserver and falls over to the VPS's.  Actually at work we have a full rack in a big datacenter, and I have asked a dozen times if I could put a physical box there, I would buy a SuperMicro server with redundant hard drives, redundant power supplies, hell I'll put a high-availability VMware cluster there if possible, I'd pay for electricity and per-MB bandwidth if necessary.  He's considering it, it's still on the table as an idea but he doesn't seem too enthusiastic about the idea.  I wish I could just go to the DC-owner and get a server put in an unrelated rack, even, but this stuff all takes time and I have enough on my plate to worry about keeping the BitVPS servers up and harassing them whenever things go down.  Hell, even if my boss gave me a VPS on their VMWare server that would be epic and I would upgrade the server so it would only be faster than before, but now that this CoinURL is going to be on there and if it's half as intense as giantdragon has implied it to be, good luck with that one.  But I'll keep trying.  

So when the site is running, and everyone requests withdrawls at once...  Be realistic.  Site is starting up with no funds and we have to work together on this one.  If you have a balance, use it for advertising like you had originally intended.  Publishers, I think I can handle the amounts that you are likely to be receiving.  I know with CoinURL I had the banners up for the whole 6 months, I got like a half million pageviews and I only netted like 0.20 BTC.  So if everyone was as heavy as a publisher as I am and that is the kind of money you were getting, I can pay you that out of pocket.  But one day a time, one person a time, WHEN I have time.  In the meantime, I'll pay giantdragon for his time, and we'll take it from there.  

Make sense?

Some TL;DR would be nice

Added.  i mean a bit anyway, no one even needs to read what I wrote, technically, 90% of it is irrelevant except the end part there is pretty relevant to CoinURL. 

ok so you bought coinurl with the userbase but giantdragon took the wallet? not a good deal. maybe thats because he sold it cheap..

I believe Mc_lovin bought it for 50BTC

thats not cheap :/

try to outsource coding of such a script for 50 btc.. if you even find a developer i think the source would be crap.
coinurl had many features and dont forget about the whole userbase and the name! i dont know how many users were registered..

but lets say if all users have a balance of 100 btc then the real price is 150 btc.. then i agree. thats not cheap anymore ;)

If i were a gambling man i would bet you that the wallet had a lot more than 100BTC,

or maybe i am overestimating Coinurl, but i think my little account had ~2btc.
(and no its not the same username as my forumname so hackers stay off.)

/GoK

Between my announcement of the CoinURL closure and offer from the mc_lovin to buy it elapsed about 1 day, during which I got many withdrawal requests from the publishers and I have sent them payments. The vast majority of publishers' unpaid balances remaining now are micro-Bitcoins, which I can pay from my own wallet if mc_lovin will decide to reject all obligations.

The largest part of obligations are in form of unspent clicks and impressions, but as it was stated from the CoinURL inception in ToS and many times disputed on this forum, advertisers' funds are non-refundable and can be spent solely on advertising. I don't think mc_lovin will change this policy. Advertisers just will be able to continue displaying their ads.

Any ideas how long its going to be till its up and running?

I have configured CoinURL on the mc_lovin's server and it is ready to run right after DNS will be rewritten.

CoinURL will be up before you know it.  Waiting on the slow registrars to do their thing with the transfer.

cur.lv links are working.

I noticed the server started to dance a little bit with the extra load, and I doubled the memory and added a 3rd CPU core, I'll increase it further if need be, but I think it should be pretty spunky as is.  Tuning PHP and MySQL will probably go a long way too. 

Sorry for the delay!

Good news is that CoinURL is working

Bad news is that the server just tanked despite my efforts to soup it up.  I dont even see what the bottleneck is.  I know it is some configuration that needs to be changed, standard LAMP setup is just crumbling under load. 

Moving BitcoinTrading to another host temporarily.

CoinURL can have the VPS and just eat it for the next day. 

If someone can help me tune the VPS to handle the load, I'm all ears!  Please!  GEEEEBUSSSS I thought I was being DDOS'd.   It's nuts.

Wait, you're the acquiring investor? This has got to be the funniest shit I read this week.


Epic. Just...epic.

What kind of tuning are you looking at and how could someone help?

/GoK

25% fee for withdrawal is even more epic!! i tried to withdar 0.1 BTC today. 0.075 are in the queue now. but the real bitcoin transaction hasnt started yet :(

Give some time to the mc_lovin to normally setup the server and understand how things work here.

Dude, the 25% fee was on CoinURL since the beginning.  I haven't changed anything.  In fact, I'll be more likely to eliminate the fee than anything, quit your bitching.  Even see this thread -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129632.0

So is there any reason why the server(s) handling ads needs to be the same one handling campaign management?

Ya, the 25% thing always seemed pretty ridiculous to me. Especially since most bitcoin sites seme to have a theme of really low percentages on any fees. Id expect like 1 or 2%, even 5% would be fine. not a quarter of your whole earnings.. just sayin

Nice to hear that, don't forget about memcached! It reduces the server load around 45-50%.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=78793.msg1316680#msg1316680

The 25% fee was only applied to withdrawn deposits and not publisher earnings IIRC.

Good point, I was actually pondering this on my way to work.  I have a hosting package through Bravenet that is good until 2014, and as you can see I moved bitcointrading.com there last night, and it's like ridiculously fast now, so if I could move the campaign management files there, might be a good idea.


Yeah 25% is insane, especially when it's not very clear beforehands. 


Already got memcached in there, but maybe it's not configured properly?

Found this last night -> http://php.net/manual/en/book.apc.php

Wonder if that will help?

Allright!


But to be sure here are some tricks:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/631903/how-do-you-know-if-memcached-is-doing-anything

It was implemented already by giantdragon at coinurls's code level, so it should work right away.

You messed up the links somewhere. The ad Stats link on the dropdown sends you here instead: https://http//coinurl.bitcointrading.com//stats-banner.php?id=400

Also, since the site went down my ads didn't get even a single view, and given that the site is working again for a couple days, you know what I mean...

k that should be fixed.  I fixed it to point at coinurl.com last night I guess I fixed my offline copy lmao.  I don't know why the double http's are on there, that might be because the .bitcointrading didn't have the SSL redirect.


Weird, memcached-tool doesn't respond from the command line like a global app.  Either it's not in there or I need to go to the memcache directory to use it.  I'll poke around, but I have "memcached" and "php5-memcached" in there..

errrmmm, are you aware that memcache and memcached are 2 different implementations of the same thing? Maybe your problem lies in that little detail?

Probably..

# ps aux | grep memcache
memcache   675  0.0  1.1 354784 23572 ?        Sl   22:27   0:00 /usr/bin/memcached -m 256 -p 11211 -u memcache -l 127.0.0.1

so my process is called memcache and the file it's running is called mecached...  I has the right one?   edit: memcache is the user memcached was running as i have discovered

Compared to the output on this page:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/631903/how-do-you-know-if-memcached-is-doing-anything

it doesn't look like mine is really doing much.

wrong, first row is the username of the process (since u specified u as parameter) and u use memcached

It seems to be working fine, no problem there. Now you can ask giandragon to take a look at it, and see if it needs some last code tweaks. If it all works, you should be able withstand a great deal of traffic with a low end VPS just fine.

I realized that when I was looking in the memcached conf and it showed the memcached default user is memcache.  you must have posted that the exact time I edited the post lmao.


Yeah maybe it's in the codes.  And if a low-end VPS can do it, this mid-end VPS should be able to dominate and I'm going to keep begging my boss to let me leave my dual-quad-771 xeon box at the datacenter so the site can have unlimited power.

Wow there is a lot of text there. I just like to report the site is up but my ad slot is timing out (http://coinurl.com/get.php?id=2572 ). If this is known (intentionally disabled or something) ignore this message.

We're trying to make it happen.  The server is just going bananas and it looks like it should be working but it's not. 

Server load is like bandwidth is @ 2%, CPU at 2%, memory free and everything is beyond crawling. 

Memcache will increase the power tremendously if we can get it working.  It's "working" but not doing anything with the site.

normal, u have to develop the site for memcached, u cant just install memcached and everything is done.

There is one file that is memcached-enabled, the one that does the banner-ads.  So, my theory on why no one can see any ads being served, is because the site is trying to load them into memcached and it's not working. 

Just realized I had taken the command of showing the memcached stats there from a site and it was for the "settings".. here's the more complete output:


So maybe memcached is in fact working.  Wow.  But it's still only 100-300 kb/s load where we can handle 6 MB/s+.

Found this page:

http://serverfault.com/questions/357799/improving-tcp-performance-over-a-gigabit-network-with-lots-of-connections-and-hi

He has a very customized /etc/sysctl.conf ...  I have never even looked at that before.

My (default) sysctl.conf:


It seems like the whole file is commented out.  And the guy in the article says he can handle 50,000 connections with his conf.  I'm going to try playing around with that, and apache and php could probably use some tweaking.  I think that's all I can really do. 

Keep up the good work @mc_lovin, and hope you get Coinurl to new heights!

Thanks, paraipan!  Served 20,000 banners this afternoon, that is crazyness!  I think a few tweaks and/or moving to a dedi is the alternative.  giantdragon had it running on a vps I wish I knew what settings he used.

Hmm i can't reach the site via www.coinurl.com

so I tried http://coinurl.bitcointrading.com ... That worked, but the connection was veeeeeeery slow ...

EDIT:
OK now its working ;D

Nice work getting it back up and running. Iv actually been receiving ad money alot faster than I was before. Any time-frame on when the 25% withdrawal fee will be removed?

Is it just me or is the accounting wrong?
I should have 0,142339, yet, my balance says I only have 0.01951980 and that balance plus what shows up on the your clicks today doesn't add up. Also, it tells me all clicks are already paid, so I really should have 0.142339 BTC and not 0.01951980.
It looks to me that it is adding only the average daily CPC to the balance instead of adding the average daily CPC x the number of clicks.

Can you please have a look into it? I sent an email yesterday, but your contact form submission took me to the homepage without even telling me if the message was sent or not.

sooo... i hear that the 25% withdrawal fee is still in effect, even on publisher earnings. true or false?

p.s. this funny-sounding word is in your faq:

shroteners

Yep its still in effect, i was about to withdraw when I saw it.

This is fuckd. 25% is too much..

https://i.imgur.com/EKvJhBv.png

And on top of the 25% fee, every time I have tried to withdraw, it takes at least like 3 or 4 days to actually get sent to my account. Starting to seem like a joke

I dont think Google tells you how much they are pocketing, but last time I looked it up I saw estimates as high as 50%.

Anyways, are there restrictions on adult and gambling ads, or are they open to advertise as well? Because Google finding those types of ads on your site will hurt your sites ranking.

The waiting time doesn't worry me much, nor does the 25%. What worries me is that my last withdrawal is marked as Paid but no coin arrived on my wallet.dat

Happened to me once too and after I send a mail I quickly received it to my wallet (I guess he is doing this by hand and made a small error).

What worries me personally is that for my last withdrawal the UI said I wouldn't be paying any fees but after I clicked withdraw 25 % was withheld anyway. Also occurred to me once when the site was under previous management so I think this is unintentional.

Its probably not programmed very well at all. Seems like alot of it is processed manually which is probably why it takes so long for withdrawals.

My problem will be solved soon, I was told. :)

again .. tried to withdraw.. 24h ago, still no coin arrived in my wallet

https://blockchain.info/address/1FdcBichMwFx6C3zjWqgC96j6FTeFocj9L

when I go to the page it says: "Account locked for fraud activity."

Made a recent deposit, didn't work today. It worked a few days ago :(

In case anyone else cares (I know it's an old post but the info is still good) Google takes 32% of the revenue for Adsense. The other 68% goes to the publisher.

As an advertiser, I'd appreciate a way to pause/delete multiple ads at once.

Just letting people know regarding my earlier post, my deposit has been processed by the staff at coinURL.

Looks like things are back to normal, good advertising service :)

I stopped using CoinURL a month or so ago, since I was getting paid 0.00000600-0.00001200 BTC per click, which was really terrible compared to other advertising services.

Has the CPC gotten any better to reconsider using CoinURL?

PPC should be based on how much the advertiser paid for the click. This means it will (or at least should) fluctuate a lot from day to day, much like it does with AdSense.

It's a bit better now, but I think targeting could be improved. Maybe by allowing users to add keywords as advertisers and match them with publisher keywords.

I sent an email to CoinUrl a couple of weeks ago and never heard back from anyone. I had a few technical questions in getting set up. I'd like to switch from Adsense to CoinUrl the beginning of next month, but I won't do it if I never hear back from them.

What's up with chrome malware detection on sites that use coinurl?

Apparently they allowed an advertiser to upload an ad with malware on it, so it's now been flagged (the domain). They are going to have to deal with that through the proper channels to get it cleared up, and I seriously hope they have better protocols for the future; otherwise this is a massive security concern.

It's probably best to look for another advertiser for now, like aads.

Thanks to coinurl because made many faucet cant be used anymore :"(

This sentence doesn't make any sense.

He's saying most faucets use CoinURL, so as long as they have ads up they can not be visited due to the malware detection.

On that note, oddly enough I've been visiting them on Firefox and Chrome and have never had a warning or issue loading any CoinURL sites throughout this entire problem period.

None of my ads have any view. Is CoinURL broken?

Are the new owners actively building this site? It feels like progress has kind of stalled lately.. it's still the best btc ad site out there, but there is lots of stuff that could be improved upon

no

I think there's a conspiracy to buy any fledgling bitcoin ad service that stands a chance to compete with Adsense, and then sit on it.

CoinURL is getting marked by (my) google chrome as trying to inject malware. Would be clever no? Inject some zeroday into all the people browsing bitcoin sites, dig for their wallet.dat files, no?

Coinurl was flagged for malware a couple of days ago, but it should be clean now. Maybe your safebrowsing lists are outdated?

I'm pretty sure it was more of a case of a user putting up links on CoinURL to a page with a javascript miner or something that wasn't a very big risk at all, and because of that link Google flagged both the coinurl.com and cur.lv domain names.  Removed the link and eventually Google released their grip on us.  What a nightmare.  It was actually like 20 different pages, all were on our site for quite awhile and I supposed Google "updated their definition" on that particular script, and it flagged a bunch of random stuff that our users had linked to. 

All of the pages they linked to saying they contained "malware" were BLOGSPOT.COM pages. 

BLOGSPOT IS A GOOGLE WEBSITE. 

So Google was complaining that we were linking to malware, when in fact we were linking to GOOGLE..

How does Google.com/Blogspot.com not get flagged for this BS?  I have no idea.  Maybe it's because we are a competitor and they want to discourage our users before we get too large.  If Google complains about 1 or 2 links that are bad, and tells me to remove a link, why don't they just flag that 1 link instead of our millions of links, flagging our entire domain which affects 1000's of websites. 

And yes we are under constant development.  I have two staffers and our developer is top notch.  He has converted almost the entirety of the underlying structure of the website, streamlining it so we can survive and grow exponentially. 

Good to hear regarding the development :)

Google - Traffic dropped but it seems to be back to normal great response regarding the situation :)

it would be nice to be warned that I can't withdraw deposited advertising funds, BEFORE I DEPOSIT.. Very frustrated customer with BTC stuck on this site.

For how much have you sold that?

$750.

Just wanted to chime in and let everybody know how impressed I am with CoinURL.
 
If you are a part of a bitcoin business you would be crazy not to be using this service.

Hello All :)
I use coinurl to short URLs and get paid :)
But i have a little question :)
When someone clicks on the link sometimes i get 50 satoshis and sometimes i get 75 satoshis and more !!!!
But the problem is from the same country i get different satoshis !!!! isn't like other short URLs service (adf.ly and linkbucks ...)
Can u tell me how do you calculate the paid amount for each click?? :)

Thank you all :)

seems like coinurl.com missed my for 0.5BTC
I send to generated payment address and it was not placed to balance.
support doesn't answer

update: btc arrived in the balance few days later

Hmmm is this still usable? Can anyone recommend me to switch to this from adf.ly or not?

Coinurl is still operating and it is a good substitute for adf.ly.

//GoK

I requested a withdrawal on January 16th and I haven't received the bitcoins yet. I also sent a message about this but I haven't received a response to that yet either.

It was bad enough that I haven't been able to withdraw from BitAds for weeks, but to see similar behavior from CoinURL does make me a bit concerned. :(
Hopefully it's just a small delay, although I find it odd my earnings are getting processed as normal.

This is from their FAQ:

How long does it take for withdrawals to be processed?
Withdrawals are being processed manually and payments are sent once a week in order to minimize transaction fees.

I've had a publisher site 'Under Evaluation' for over a week now with no reply what so ever. Is the admin still active?

Domain parking industry come to final age it's good you bought coinurl and give power in it. It takes experience to combat click fraud.

You need to put first the codes on site then write them email to check.

I think I will stick to adf.ly for now, since i have been hearing many complaints.

I trusted because they are under new managment which is originally from domain parking industry requires lots of experience with click fraud ...
But who knows...

My site iseebitcoins.com was on the Under Evaluation i contacted the site they were quick to respond and great help even though they didnt accept my website lol

I Haven't used it before...
How is the pay rate, compared with adf.ly?

The worst thing is that there are no rates on the site.

The worst thing is, after 4 days, my advertisement is still "Pending review" and not live. Just going to cancel it. If you can't activate my ad after 4 days then you don't deserve my business.

And the withdrawal threshold is way higher than it needs to be. Why a 0.01 threshold?

There are no rates posted on the website because it is a bidding system.  The payouts will fluxuate constantly depending on the users' bids in the system. 


0.01 BTC threshold is in place to prevent users from requesting tons of small withdrawals every day.  People would request a few satoshis and then complain that it is taking days upon days to process, even with the 0.01 threshold it takes awhile to get through everyone each day. 

Sorry about if there were delays in the processing of some ads, I'm going to assume you meant interstitial ads, sometimes those took longer recently.  That is all resolved though. 

I noticed some clicks are not being counted. For example, in my case, since 03:05 AM (GMT-3), there's no clicks, which is impossible, since I have many sites which generate clicks all day.

MC Lovin, some bug?

Mind telling us how much you got CoinURL in bitcoin ?

Same here.... I thought already that I'm paranoid, I have a feeling that clicks just stopped counting. I've written an eMail and asked to check it and tell me then am I wrong or not or tell me if I do something wrong. Lets see what happens next.

I concur.... I received two clicks yesterday, compared to 10+ clicks previous days.

It looks like it might be picking up today, maybe.

Maybe they are trying to fine tune the system, who knows? ::)

I want to keep my ads on site bitcoin related, so I'm going to give it a few days...

I noticed it's not profitable too have more than one a-ads banner on a page, doesn't count the impressions....

I sent an e-mail to them, but never got a reply.

Yes I have been getting clicks for a few weeks and now its stopped but i know people are clicking the hell out of my links (legit clicks) but nothing showing now.

Can you fix this for us?

I have over 200K satoshi in my account and was making about 40K a day then it stopped but i know the clicks didn't stop. would like to keep using this site but i can't if i don't get paid...  :-\

It seems the owner of the site doesn't reply messages. It seems he is abandoning the site...

Hello everyone, I'm new to the forum. I see you all are in my same situation. For some days I have not received payment for clicks to my links. Send an e-mail to the support but got no answer. I hope they fix the site soon. It was my favorite.
Sorry for my bad English. :-)

Yeah its all gone tits up over there upto around the first week of this mth, my clicks took up about 2 pages per day, now on the 14th of this month nothing was counted, and im down to around 5 clicks per day lol yet my site is growing and my UV's increasing, yet coinurl seem to has me going the opposite way.

And with a withdraw threshold of "Minimum amount is 0.01 BTC" I really woudnt suggest you bother considering they are only paying out between 0.00000095 and 0.00000150 you need a shit load of clicks to get anywhere near that infact around 10526 of them.

Cheers
Mark

This site is about to disappear?. Does not count clicks, not answering support. To my shame, I hope another shortener accept withdrawals BTC

I'm not ready to say coinurl is done yet... I only use it for banner ads though.

Here is another url shortener, I'm not sure if it pays or whatever, don't feel like testing it..lol

http://coin-ads.com/

I'm not sure what is going on, or if it's still going on, with the link shortener...???

But my banner ad clicks appear to be counting just fine, and I just got paid again...:)

I am still being massively underpaid, according to the stats on CoinURLs own site - it is telling me I am making several thousand clicks per day and earning in the region of 0.01 - 0.001 per day but the deposits to my account are showing at around 0.0001 per day. Have made several posts about this in other CoinURL threads on here, and even posted screen grabs showing my clicks, in the hope that admin might notice and get in touch to discuss it with me. Have contacted admin several times with support tickets but heard nothing back. Real shame as I love the service and should be making decent income from it, if they really were paying as advertised. Will give them one more week to get in touch, or I am moving all of my services over to another pay-per-click provider.

If you are hoping to make meaningful money I cannot recommend this service, it appears they pay out if you are making peanuts, or just a few Satoshi a day, but once you get successful at using the system, they don't keep up with the payments (and no I am not using click farming or anything which is against coinURL TOS).

Well coinurl.com down for me today, no ads being served and no access to URL :(

Time to worry or just tech issue?

Site appears to be working for me. No payment but I don't think it happens every single day anyway (occasionally they skip a day or so).
Following up my earlier post I should probably say here that the Admin replied to me in another thread, and is looking into my issue.

Still not possible to withdraw coins as an advertiser? Its not much for me but the explaination for this sounds stupid. Though i know it was brought in by previous owners. If it would be to protect against money laundering then this service could not allow anonymous deposits too. Simply because someone can turn advertising money into profit elsewhere. If he knows how.

Though maybe this service is dead anyway already since >120 days no post?

I hate the minimum withdrawal of 0.01 BTC, too. Been at 0.008 for months because each click on a link is now around 8 satoshi...

I might make another short url service that pays in bitcoin and I will pay allot more because I know how to make a nice profit from the traffic.

Keep an eye out for my announcement ;)

talk to me I stay at 0.009... ???

This would be MOST welcome news!

almost too good to be true,when i see coinurl link I always close the site alltogether :) plan something less intrusive

I think i know how you want to monetize the traffic. Im not sure if you will get many users with it. Or is it an accepted behaviour of link shorteners now?

Sounds great

Is CoinUrl still working, i have pending clicks from February 12th that are not yet confirmed. FAQ says:

You will receive rewards for the clicks when the fraud detection analysis is complete. We perform it at least once every 24 hours. Newer accounts may experience delays in click approval initially. Even a week or more, we are analysing your traffic quality and your payments become more frequent later.

I already have some approved clicks, but i always need to send mail and ask for it, and last time i sent mail nothing changed, that was about 2 days ago

yeah,clicks have been pending for weeks ,then 18 clicks were rejected
in terms of monetisation you would be better off publishing...well pretty much anything else
avoid

Does anyone have suggestions for alternatives? Need to be able to operate in Bitcoin and post links to Twitter.

Are you asking for an url shortener that pays bitcoin?

There's this...

Ref link: http://adfoc.us/?refid=246483 :D

Non ref link: http://adfoc.us :-[

Do you know if links using that service are blocked by Twitter? (as they block adf.ly and several others).
I had read online that coinURL was blocked, but I've never had a problem posting their links to my Twitter accounts.

Hmmm.... well I don't know if twitter will block them,

but under further reading it's against adfoc.us terms and conditions...

http://adfoc.us/terms

#21 Do not send traffic from Twitter / Facebook

ah ok.

Still not possible to withdraw my funds. And i dont believe in these "AML regulations". This is the only website claiming this has to be done because of those regulations.

Guess the old owner took out all the bitcoins when he sold the website claiming that deposited coins could be used for advertising anyway only.

i gave up when i saw the minimum to remove is 0.01

https://i.imgur.com/WSd1oip.png
Sorry I was a new member, balance 0 BTC but earnings today 0.00022709 BTC, what does it mean :) Thanks

What are you talking about? You deposited and you want to withdraw?

Against their policy... For whatever reason...

I've never had a problem withdrawing earnings... http://bitcoinwork.info/bitcoin-payment-proof.html#coinurl


"Please, pay attention that your REAL earnings depend on traffic quality!!!"

It means your clicks are in pending until they judged for quality...  ;)

thanks for helping me get the answer  :D

The german translation of CoinURL sounds like it was done using Google Translate.

By the way: I think you could get more advertisers if you provide non-bitcoin payment options too (maybe bitcoin-friendly companies like OKPay, Neteller)

Yes, i deposited coins some time ago and did some advertising. Didnt work out so i wanted to withdraw. That did not work. The new owner wrote that he wants to try making that possible. I have 0.02BTC in there. Its not so much but still... i dont like it laying there because of some AML-Regulation this site seems to be the only one that feels obliged to follow. Is it because of some money laundering rules? It doesnt make sense if i upload it and i want to withdraw it again. So i wonder what this was about.

I'm not sure how their wallet works, maybe they are concerned people would use it as a bitcoin mixer or just as a wallet.. ???

They have advertising vouchers you can purchase and then resell, I've never used it, but that looks like your best bet.

Thanks for the heads up but for some reason i cant buy a voucher. It says i have "Funds available: 0.00002000 BTC" but when im at the withdraw section then it shows "Available: 0.02453000 BTC"

Dont know whats the problem there. If the owner created that so that he dont need to pay out coins then i dont see the problem.

Wow, I completely forgot about this website.
I haven't used it in ages!
I've just checked my balance and I have 0.0001 BTC and I can't withdraw it...lol
I guess I'll just donate it back to the site.

I guess you cant donate it because the (previous) owner already donated it to himself. :)

I think its really the only project where the owner thought its a good idea to see deposits as his money and not as users money that could be demanded back. If it was the previous owner then i would never had bought such a website.

Well I've just moved all of my links over to a competing network, after trying to get an answer from the owner for why my earnings are like 10% of what the site stats say they should be.
It's a shame because I liked the service and never had a problem withdrawing. It just wasn't paying me anything like what my 1,000 good quality clicks every day should have earned me.

I actually get about the same payout on my new network as I did on coinURL, so I'm not making any more money - but at least now it is in line with what the site tells me I should be earning, and I can build it from there - I deliberately haven't been building my network since I started noticing the deficits in payments.

So what happend? Is it scam? I have few coinurl ads on my site..

I don't believe it's a scam, I just think it doesn't work properly and they haven't bothered to fix it for a long time.

what is this new service?

Not wole, just wcam to not let us withdrawal

Coinurl works for me, i withrawed a few weeks ago from them and it worked fine.

I`m also using it to advertise and it delivers semi-high quality traffic,  or to put it in better words, above average traffic for the price I paid.

So i`m satisfied with them. It has one of the cheapest interstitial ads that i`ve seen in the entire bitcoin industry, and decent visitors aswell (althought a few countries have to be filtered, because many visitors from certain countries are bots)

I thought nobody use coinurl anymore. You surprised me. I don't even know if my account is still there. I never withdraw btc, minimum withdraw limit was too much for me.

Minimum withdrawal limit is a killer for me and is why I'll never use them for advertising. I have over 8 mBTC in my publisher account and it grows so slowly it's probably never hitting that threshold. I removed almost all of their ads as a result.

The advertising on CoinURL (interstitial at least) is good if you want low quality traffic for a somewhat cheap price (though it has gone more expensive recently). If you want anything else, you should look elsewhere.

I wouldn't recommend using them for their service simply because how high the fees are. You can get much better rates at websites that pay in USD and then convert that to Bitcoin.

I am using coinurl for a while now, and i get annoyed by the time i have to wait until my credits get refunded

1)For example i buy 100.000 visitors, i run the campaign and it runs out in 1 day.
2)Then i see that about 50.000 were fake traffic and 50.000 genuine
3) Then i wait 2 days until i get the refund back and get another 50.000 visitors run out in 5-6 hours
4)Then turns out another 25000 were fake and 25000 legit
5) Then i wait another 2 days until i get 25000 refunded
6) Then the 25000 runs again, and 12500 is again fake and 12500 is genuine
7) Then 12500 refunded after 2 days then runs again, then  6250 is fake again and 6250 is genuine
and so on....

So you see, a fucking campaign takes 1 year to complete because i always have to wait 2-3 days for every refund.


Ok i`m not angry because of the fake traffic, that is pretty good that coinurl has good filters that detects cheaters.

What i`m angry about is that it have to wait like 2 days inbetween for refunds, so that a 1 day campaign is actually taking 1 fucking year to finish...

Can't you just make the refund like after 2-3 hours, why do i have to wait 2 days for it? Its pretty disgusting...And don't get me wrong i`m a big fan of coinurl, but this single thing is just making me so angry...  >:(

how much did you buy coinurl for? If you dont mind me asking, I'm just a bit jealous :P

Why would you be jealous? As far as I know, it's a failing business due to how it's run. Other ad networks are taking over by storm lately, all bringing new things to the table. CoinURL is still using an outdated model with such low payments that tons of publishers are only still showing their ads so they can hit the minimum payout (which, on interstitial ads, takes like 2 million views just to get the 0.01 BTC minimum required to withdraw). It's ridiculous.

I joined up to that mellowads and they payments were even smaller! I think it might be a percentage of views thing though, so unless you get a lot of traffic it wouldn't really be any good. What ad networks do you guys recommend using to make money?

well honestly I don't even care that who is the owner of coinurl but I can give you a small advice just try to decrease the minimum payout limit..because reaching 0.1btc is very difficult some 40% of peoples ..who are using this site..there was a time when I was also used to suffer this site but due to a way to high payout limit I had to left this site

Yep. When using the link shortener, it looks like you get 8-9 satoshi per click. At that rate, getting to 1 million is a ridiculous number of clicks.

Admin,

I am not able to sign in to my account.
when i try to sign in. it sends me an login success mail and then stays on the login page.

I have sent you support ticket as well..

thanks to fix this problem for my account

Please admin do something about this, its annoying to wait 50 days just to get 1 campaign over.

In other sites a campaign like that is over in 3 hours.

What happened with CoinURL? Support not answer!

Yeah... I really think they should pass it off/sell it to someone else who can manage it better. But I question whether or not their reputation is already destroyed with most publishers due to the past.

do not use this site no more, its a complete scam ;  i have unanswered tickets for over 1 month too.

Does anyone know any good, recent alternatives?

do you accept ptc websites ?

and is this site still paying ?

I have the same situation like yours. My website is ranked 50k in alexa and they got me banned when I withdrew over 0.01 btc. The reason for banned is due to fraudulent activity.

What's wrong with them? I am not a cheater. All I can say this company is a cheater.

Looks like you are right about cheating.

Twitter is alive, but I wouldn't try to work with CoinURL after reading all feedback here.

So I have read that withdrawals work again only to let me tell by the website that withdrawing 0.023b is not possible because of a too few withdrawal amount. Sure, let me deposit some more so that I can withdraw.  ::)

is this site still paying or admin is still active.

My ad is still in pending state under my acount .. for last one month ??

i do have pending payments for months there,also btc withdrawal not processed for 3 months now... so the website it's gone ... no admin response to my tickets ... no support

is the site still paying? it seems like the site is dead..

It sure dead.

Jup seems dead to me too. I still have some earnings there (since 2013 or so) but the ridiculously high payout limit of 0.01 BTC prevents me up to now to cashout...

Is it definitely over?

Seems so, site seems down too.