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Title: Kim Kardashian & Western Civilization
Post by: McDonalds5 on February 25, 2016, 07:47:38 PM
'You inspire me to be hot and famous'

A 2007 survey by the Pew Research Center found that 51% of 18-to-25 year olds said their most or second-most important life goal was to become famous. 64% said their first or second goal was to become rich.

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/feb/25/kim-kardashian-teens-book-celebrity-social-media-american-girls (http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/feb/25/kim-kardashian-teens-book-celebrity-social-media-american-girls)

“My little cousin, she’s 13, and she posts such inappropriate pictures on Instagram and boys post sexual comments, and she’s like, ‘Thank you.’ It’s child porn, and everyone’s looking at it on their iPhones in the cafeteria,” said a 17-year-old girl in New York.

For the last and loudest thunderclap in this perfect storm, the precipitous rise of narcissism in the American psyche – charted in studies since the 70s, and accelerated by social media, according to some psychologists – was glamorized in the image of a dewy, contoured Kim staring into her iPhone screen.


How close we are to a complete moral and societal collapse here in the west? How long will it take to shift more intellectual and stabile Eurasian-based world power structure?

Let's discuss.



Title: Re: Kim Kardashian & Western Civilization
Post by: CoinCube on February 25, 2016, 08:53:43 PM
http://charltonteaching.blogspot.com/2014/12/the-west-cannot-be-saved-because-it.html?m=1

Quote from: Bruce Charlton
The West has no essence, is merely contingent - just a time-slice through an always-changing, self-subverting, and continually-inverted aggregation of attitudes, beliefs and practices.

So culturally, the West is purposefully, strategically destroying itself - always, as a continuous process.

And biologically The West is destroying itself: by choice the Western population have long since ceased to replace themselves; by strategy it is replacing its own population - and from existential terror (and deliberate wicked intent) this whole subject is taboo, denied, lied-about.

*

The West is not even trying to save itself; indeed The West has self-destruction built-in, woven-in, pervasive.

How can you save something which so much wants to kill itself?

...

The secular modern is afraid to probe too deeply, because he is sure there is nothing underneath - all is surface. He is afraid to look ahead, because he has decided that will be nothing there. To him, all human lives are failures because they end in decline, suffering, and death - biography is tragedy (either unfulfilled promise or the disappointment of all desire).

His strongest principles are without foundations - and therefore will almost certainly be discarded when they become inexpedient, or even if they are not discarded then this will be an arbitrary gesture. His most profound yearnings can only be fulfilled in imagination - which is to say they will not be fulfilled, and are delusions.

...

Our resources are finite, our effort and enthusiasm requires realistic grounds for optimism.

Therefore, let's stop monitoring and trying to turn-back the civilisational tsunami of secular nihilism - but ourselves drowning in pessimism.

And instead adopt the positive, optimistic, realistic goal of saving a few people.



Title: Re: Kim Kardashian & Western Civilization
Post by: arbitrage on February 26, 2016, 09:54:24 AM
This is one of the proofs of declining of western civilization.
One person such as Kim makes money by this way but don't care at all
about negative influence on young population.
Money is only bright thing!


Title: Re: Kim Kardashian & Western Civilization
Post by: cooldgamer on February 26, 2016, 12:36:58 PM
It's sad that smart minds that could have gone and become something useful end up aspiring to be like the braindead stars on TV... who needs to cure cancer or solve world hunger when you can be adored by millions of people and get money just for acting rich...

I don't think we're on the verge of some kind of complete collapse, but that we're just going to have more and more idiots in society as time goes on...  the smart will end up carrying the weak to make sure they can get by.  I'm mostly a socialist and believe that everybody should be well taken care of, but damn, it would be nice if people would at least put some effort into helping society.


Title: Re: Kim Kardashian & Western Civilization
Post by: craked5 on February 26, 2016, 12:45:01 PM
The video is a bit long (12 min) but please watch it it's one of the most interesting I ever saw!

The study presented is the longest ever made, it's a 70 years long study!

https://www.ted.com/talks/robert_waldinger_what_makes_a_good_life_lessons_from_the_longest_study_on_happiness?language=fr

It explains how and why some people are both happy and healthy. It's incredibly interesting and fullfilling, please watch this :)


Title: Re: Kim Kardashian & Western Civilization
Post by: craked5 on February 26, 2016, 12:45:59 PM
It's sad that smart minds that could have gone and become something useful end up aspiring to be like the braindead stars on TV... who needs to cure cancer or solve world hunger when you can be adored by millions of people and get money just for acting rich...

I don't think we're on the verge of some kind of complete collapse, but that we're just going to have more and more idiots in society as time goes on...  the smart will end up carrying the weak to make sure they can get by.  I'm mostly a socialist and believe that everybody should be well taken care of, but damn, it would be nice if people would at least put some effort into helping society.

Once they've been brainwashed enough they're no longer bright minds :/

Just the usual deepshit who'll vote Republican xD


Title: Re: Kim Kardashian & Western Civilization
Post by: bryant.coleman on February 26, 2016, 04:00:43 PM
In Western Europe and the North America, the younger generation is completely brainwashed by the liberals and the pro-LGBT groups, in to thinking that participating in various perversities is very cool. When they grow up and become mature, many of them will regret their past. But by then, the liberals will be brainwashing their new set of kids.


Title: Re: Kim Kardashian & Western Civilization
Post by: Slow death on February 26, 2016, 04:57:32 PM
In Western Europe and the North America, the younger generation is completely brainwashed by the liberals and the pro-LGBT groups, in to thinking that participating in various perversities is very cool. When they grow up and become mature, many of them will regret their past. But by then, the liberals will be brainwashing their new set of kids.



I agree with you

unfortunately realize too late


Title: Re: Kim Kardashian & Western Civilization
Post by: craked5 on March 07, 2016, 03:47:46 PM
In Western Europe and the North America, the younger generation is completely brainwashed by the liberals and the pro-LGBT groups, in to thinking that participating in various perversities is very cool. When they grow up and become mature, many of them will regret their past. But by then, the liberals will be brainwashing their new set of kids.

Hey, please, stop insulting LGBT and liberals for that, who do you think is more than happy of this situation? Yeah that's right banks and companies! They're the one happy to see the population totally brainwashed by TV!!!


Title: Re: Kim Kardashian & Western Civilization
Post by: TECSHARE on March 07, 2016, 03:55:21 PM
Narcissism is an important precursor to Marxism, which is something being driven very heavily in western societies currently in order to ensure their quick collapse from internal conflict so the vulture bankster class can pick the bones of these nations clean.


In Western Europe and the North America, the younger generation is completely brainwashed by the liberals and the pro-LGBT groups, in to thinking that participating in various perversities is very cool. When they grow up and become mature, many of them will regret their past. But by then, the liberals will be brainwashing their new set of kids.

Hey, please, stop insulting LGBT and liberals for that, who do you think is more than happy of this situation? Yeah that's right banks and companies! They're the one happy to see the population totally brainwashed by TV!!!

Lol, please. As if banks are inherently right wing or conservative, or any one ideology for that matter. They will exploit ANY IDEOLOGY to rob you happily. They have no loyalties.


Title: Re: Kim Kardashian & Western Civilization
Post by: craked5 on March 07, 2016, 04:02:33 PM
Narcissism is an important precursor to Marxism, which is something being driven very heavily in western societies currently in order to ensure their quick collapse from internal conflict so the vulture bankster class can pick the bones of these nations clean.


In Western Europe and the North America, the younger generation is completely brainwashed by the liberals and the pro-LGBT groups, in to thinking that participating in various perversities is very cool. When they grow up and become mature, many of them will regret their past. But by then, the liberals will be brainwashing their new set of kids.

Hey, please, stop insulting LGBT and liberals for that, who do you think is more than happy of this situation? Yeah that's right banks and companies! They're the one happy to see the population totally brainwashed by TV!!!

Lol, please. As if banks are inherently right wing or conservative, or any one ideology for that matter. They will exploit ANY IDEOLOGY to rob you happily. They have no loyalties.

Sorry I forgot that you're all Americans, hence when you talk about liberals you don't refer about the same politic movement that what we call liberals --'

And my point was simply that Liberals and LGBT are not especially behind this. Banks and companies are that's all.


Title: Re: Kim Kardashian & Western Civilization
Post by: TECSHARE on March 07, 2016, 04:14:35 PM
Narcissism is an important precursor to Marxism, which is something being driven very heavily in western societies currently in order to ensure their quick collapse from internal conflict so the vulture bankster class can pick the bones of these nations clean.


In Western Europe and the North America, the younger generation is completely brainwashed by the liberals and the pro-LGBT groups, in to thinking that participating in various perversities is very cool. When they grow up and become mature, many of them will regret their past. But by then, the liberals will be brainwashing their new set of kids.

Hey, please, stop insulting LGBT and liberals for that, who do you think is more than happy of this situation? Yeah that's right banks and companies! They're the one happy to see the population totally brainwashed by TV!!!

Lol, please. As if banks are inherently right wing or conservative, or any one ideology for that matter. They will exploit ANY IDEOLOGY to rob you happily. They have no loyalties.

Sorry I forgot that you're all Americans, hence when you talk about liberals you don't refer about the same politic movement that what we call liberals --'

And my point was simply that Liberals and LGBT are not especially behind this. Banks and companies are that's all.

You have a pretty thick skull full of cognitive dissonance don't you?

IT DOESN'T MAKE A FUCK OF A DIFFERENCE WHAT IDEOLOGY YOU ARE DESCRIBING BANKERS WILL EXPLOIT IT. END OF DEBATE.


Title: Re: Kim Kardashian & Western Civilization
Post by: bitsmichel on March 07, 2016, 07:22:39 PM
How close we are to a complete moral and societal collapse here in the west?
There is no societal collapse. This is the same as hollywood stuff. It doesn't represent the west.


Title: Re: Kim Kardashian & Western Civilization
Post by: BADecker on March 07, 2016, 07:47:31 PM
'You inspire me to be hot and famous'

A 2007 survey by the Pew Research Center found that 51% of 18-to-25 year olds said their most or second-most important life goal was to become famous. 64% said their first or second goal was to become rich.

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/feb/25/kim-kardashian-teens-book-celebrity-social-media-american-girls (http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/feb/25/kim-kardashian-teens-book-celebrity-social-media-american-girls)

“My little cousin, she’s 13, and she posts such inappropriate pictures on Instagram and boys post sexual comments, and she’s like, ‘Thank you.’ It’s child porn, and everyone’s looking at it on their iPhones in the cafeteria,” said a 17-year-old girl in New York.

For the last and loudest thunderclap in this perfect storm, the precipitous rise of narcissism in the American psyche – charted in studies since the 70s, and accelerated by social media, according to some psychologists – was glamorized in the image of a dewy, contoured Kim staring into her iPhone screen.


How close we are to a complete moral and societal collapse here in the west? How long will it take to shift more intellectual and stabile Eurasian-based world power structure?

Let's discuss.



This is why Bitcoin is in danger, and to not be trusted over money or value that you can hold in your hand.

When God collapses the sick system we have, He will take much of communications down with it. Bitcoin will fail, or at least be corrupted.

Use Bitcoin. But don't make it your basic value operation. Of course, fiat will crash, as well.

:)


Title: Re: Kim Kardashian & Western Civilization
Post by: craked5 on March 08, 2016, 11:16:13 AM
Narcissism is an important precursor to Marxism, which is something being driven very heavily in western societies currently in order to ensure their quick collapse from internal conflict so the vulture bankster class can pick the bones of these nations clean.


In Western Europe and the North America, the younger generation is completely brainwashed by the liberals and the pro-LGBT groups, in to thinking that participating in various perversities is very cool. When they grow up and become mature, many of them will regret their past. But by then, the liberals will be brainwashing their new set of kids.

Hey, please, stop insulting LGBT and liberals for that, who do you think is more than happy of this situation? Yeah that's right banks and companies! They're the one happy to see the population totally brainwashed by TV!!!

Lol, please. As if banks are inherently right wing or conservative, or any one ideology for that matter. They will exploit ANY IDEOLOGY to rob you happily. They have no loyalties.

Sorry I forgot that you're all Americans, hence when you talk about liberals you don't refer about the same politic movement that what we call liberals --'

And my point was simply that Liberals and LGBT are not especially behind this. Banks and companies are that's all.

You have a pretty thick skull full of cognitive dissonance don't you?

IT DOESN'T MAKE A FUCK OF A DIFFERENCE WHAT IDEOLOGY YOU ARE DESCRIBING BANKERS WILL EXPLOIT IT. END OF DEBATE.

And you don't know how to read. That's exactly what I said in my first post. That it was not the LGBT or the liberals who were at stake but the fact that banks are using it.

You're the one who wanted to correct me on that. But as usual you don't read what other write, you only judge and interpret in order to insult with all your contempt.

Tired of you, your rudeness and your stupidity Techshare. If only at least you had some kind of argument or interesting point of view. But no, you have nothing. Only the fogy feeling of being the right virtuous man.

Ignored.


Title: Re: Kim Kardashian & Western Civilization
Post by: magnific61 on March 08, 2016, 08:22:24 PM
Western civilisation gives more possibilty and opportunities but it has no soul.
Earn- spend,  don't care others,  live your life,  follow fashion,  eat-fuck-sleep
Sorry but this is like modern animals.
Everything is artificial even foods


Title: Re: Kim Kardashian & Western Civilization
Post by: gentlemand on March 08, 2016, 08:29:00 PM
Maybe it'll bring in a new dawn of human endeavour and peace. Perhaps we've always been waiting for a plasticated American woman who appears to do nothing to lead us to salvation. Stranger things have happened.


Title: Re: Kim Kardashian & Western Civilization
Post by: af_newbie on March 08, 2016, 08:48:12 PM
It's sad that smart minds that could have gone and become something useful end up aspiring to be like the braindead stars on TV... who needs to cure cancer or solve world hunger when you can be adored by millions of people and get money just for acting rich...

I don't think we're on the verge of some kind of complete collapse, but that we're just going to have more and more idiots in society as time goes on...  the smart will end up carrying the weak to make sure they can get by.  I'm mostly a socialist and believe that everybody should be well taken care of, but damn, it would be nice if people would at least put some effort into helping society.

+1

There is actually evidence for this. 

Look at your work or school.  Any company, big or small will have 10% stars, 5% walk on water types, the remaining 35% are average (need lots of guidance), the bottom 50% is slowing down the top half.  You cannot fire them, so you keep them, train them over and over, fix problems created by them, and eventually promote them into management (of all things).

I've worked in number of companies, the percentages are always more less the same.

Society will survive.  The smarter ones will just have to work harder to carry the rest.


Title: Re: Kim Kardashian & Western Civilization
Post by: TECSHARE on March 08, 2016, 09:05:44 PM
Narcissism is an important precursor to Marxism, which is something being driven very heavily in western societies currently in order to ensure their quick collapse from internal conflict so the vulture bankster class can pick the bones of these nations clean.


In Western Europe and the North America, the younger generation is completely brainwashed by the liberals and the pro-LGBT groups, in to thinking that participating in various perversities is very cool. When they grow up and become mature, many of them will regret their past. But by then, the liberals will be brainwashing their new set of kids.

Hey, please, stop insulting LGBT and liberals for that, who do you think is more than happy of this situation? Yeah that's right banks and companies! They're the one happy to see the population totally brainwashed by TV!!!

Lol, please. As if banks are inherently right wing or conservative, or any one ideology for that matter. They will exploit ANY IDEOLOGY to rob you happily. They have no loyalties.

Sorry I forgot that you're all Americans, hence when you talk about liberals you don't refer about the same politic movement that what we call liberals --'

And my point was simply that Liberals and LGBT are not especially behind this. Banks and companies are that's all.

You have a pretty thick skull full of cognitive dissonance don't you?

IT DOESN'T MAKE A FUCK OF A DIFFERENCE WHAT IDEOLOGY YOU ARE DESCRIBING BANKERS WILL EXPLOIT IT. END OF DEBATE.

And you don't know how to read. That's exactly what I said in my first post. That it was not the LGBT or the liberals who were at stake but the fact that banks are using it.

You're the one who wanted to correct me on that. But as usual you don't read what other write, you only judge and interpret in order to insult with all your contempt.

Tired of you, your rudeness and your stupidity Techshare. If only at least you had some kind of argument or interesting point of view. But no, you have nothing. Only the fogy feeling of being the right virtuous man.

Ignored.

Actually what you were saying is don't blame an entire group of people (liberals and the LGBT community) "because bankers". You claim this group is not at fault, when I am saying ALL "groups" are complicit, including your liberal and LGBT buddies. This entire group doesn't deserve to be blamed, but trust me it does deserve its share of the blame, so no that is not "exactly" what you just said. They all serve as useful idiots to push this marxist agenda like many other groups do, they just happen to have the most success with their goals in hijacking liberal, feminist, and LGBT groups. I actually have a point, all you have is defensive reactionary rage, and personal attacks and accusations of perceived supremacist attitudes. I look forward to not having to read your pseudo intellectual tripe in your replies to my comments since you are ignoring me. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.


Title: Re: Kim Kardashian & Western Civilization
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on March 09, 2016, 12:33:38 PM
Throws in a sort of burn at all of us :P
Kids these days can't even understand Windows 95 and use a computer from 20 years ago... or what a modem is and what internet is before wifi ... yet we expect them to understand privacy and computer security, so a moral and societal collapse can't be that far off we just need to wait for the day the wifi dies lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ucCxtgN6sc

Mumbles: Teens react to NSA spying on them thru system cams as they undress
Reaction in Mind: It's just like my instagram I knew they followed me ...


Title: Re: Kim Kardashian & Western Civilization
Post by: KiwiParty on March 09, 2016, 12:56:59 PM
"How close we are to a complete moral and societal collapse here in the west? How long will it take to shift more intellectual and stabile Eurasian-based world power structure?"

Bye Hitler, Hello Stalin, Bye Bush, Hello Putin! ..... to be continued.
To be free, we do not necessarily rely on locations. Just be.


Title: Re: Kim Kardashian & Western Civilization
Post by: yugo23 on March 09, 2016, 01:29:23 PM
Actually what you were saying is don't blame an entire group of people (liberals and the LGBT community) "because bankers". You claim this group is not at fault, when I am saying ALL "groups" are complicit, including your liberal and LGBT buddies. This entire group doesn't deserve to be blamed, but trust me it does deserve its share of the blame, so no that is not "exactly" what you just said. They all serve as useful idiots to push this marxist agenda like many other groups do, they just happen to have the most success with their goals in hijacking liberal, feminist, and LGBT groups. I actually have a point, all you have is defensive reactionary rage, and personal attacks and accusations of perceived supremacist attitudes. I look forward to not having to read your pseudo intellectual tripe in your replies to my comments since you are ignoring me. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

Rightful accusations though. You are, without any doubt, a sad empty and contemptful sir. Without any kind of decency or politeness. You're as rude as you could be, but also ridiculously arrogant and narrow-minded.

And all of this can be said in a rather objective way.


Title: Re: Kim Kardashian & Western Civilization
Post by: designerusa on March 09, 2016, 07:17:40 PM
In Western Europe and the North America, the younger generation is completely brainwashed by the liberals and the pro-LGBT groups, in to thinking that participating in various perversities is very cool. When they grow up and become mature, many of them will regret their past. But by then, the liberals will be brainwashing their new set of kids.

not even western europe or the north america, things work same in the other parts of world.. they teach our children how to become a pervert then the society will consist of perverts then


Title: Re: Kim Kardashian & Western Civilization
Post by: TECSHARE on March 09, 2016, 08:21:02 PM
Actually what you were saying is don't blame an entire group of people (liberals and the LGBT community) "because bankers". You claim this group is not at fault, when I am saying ALL "groups" are complicit, including your liberal and LGBT buddies. This entire group doesn't deserve to be blamed, but trust me it does deserve its share of the blame, so no that is not "exactly" what you just said. They all serve as useful idiots to push this marxist agenda like many other groups do, they just happen to have the most success with their goals in hijacking liberal, feminist, and LGBT groups. I actually have a point, all you have is defensive reactionary rage, and personal attacks and accusations of perceived supremacist attitudes. I look forward to not having to read your pseudo intellectual tripe in your replies to my comments since you are ignoring me. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

Rightful accusations though. You are, without any doubt, a sad empty and contemptful sir. Without any kind of decency or politeness. You're as rude as you could be, but also ridiculously arrogant and narrow-minded.

And all of this can be said in a rather objective way.

I am plenty decent and polite, that is until you make it personal like cracked5 did, and like you are beginning to make personal attacks against me because you can't back up your argument so you can avoid the topic at hand. If you want to discuss the topic, lets discuss it. If you want to make it about me, well then I am going to shit all over you, its just how the world works. Until you and your Marxist comrades learn how debate works, I am stuck interfacing with you on your own level. Notice how none of your reply contained any discussion of the subject matter? Could that be perhaps because you have no argument and have to resort to attacking me personally to protect your own twisted bias?


Title: Re: Kim Kardashian & Western Civilization
Post by: wowanstrong on September 19, 2016, 05:24:26 PM
Kim is too vulgar for a long time crossed the line. It gives a disgusting example for people. It is unfortunate that this is considered normal and beautiful.


Title: Re: Kim Kardashian & Western Civilization
Post by: Kvazimoda on September 28, 2016, 01:54:07 PM
I love Kim. Beautiful woman with a beautiful body. Well, she wants to take pictures of yourself - even photographs. She did not make the same deal with all


Title: Re: Kim Kardashian & Western Civilization
Post by: Kabul on September 28, 2016, 07:50:55 PM
Imho everyone's got his rights to live the live he/she wanna live.
If we don't like their behaviour the best solution is just don't give a fuck about that, and only think about our own life.